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Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Das Volk posted:

Has it been long enough that those are exempt now?

I googled the plate and found more photos: http://followgram.me/thedaniel/204514987668624410_143796

US is 25 years, right? Group B ended in 1986, so I'd imagine cars from that era have been exempt since 2011.

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travisray2004
Dec 2, 2004
SuprMan

BoostCreep posted:

So I saw an incredibly rare car today. I had to chase it down to get a picture. It sounded loving marvelous. The turbo spooled just off idle and I could hear it all the way down the street when it accelerated. Driven by an older guy.



Love the plate too.

Ugh. That rear end. You should have flagged the guy down and bowed at his feet/asked him a laundry list of questions.

Ulfhednar
Dec 16, 2006
Blood for the Blood God!
There's a house in the next town over with a Saab Sonett III that hasn't moved in the 7 or so years I've lived around here.


Here's something semi-AI. I was visiting family up near Detroit, and I did some yard-sale-ing around some of the nicer suburbs there. Came across a guy selling a framed original concept drawing by Joel Piaskowski, the man who's designed for Ford/Mercedes/Hyundai (Most notably designing the Hyundai Genesis) and a few others. I don't remember the exacts, but the seller said he had it hanging in his office back when he worked for some car dealer:


Hi Rez



A closeup showing how it was cut out from the original draft sheet.

I need to find some wall space for it!

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Fucknag posted:

US is 25 years, right? Group B ended in 1986, so I'd imagine cars from that era have been exempt since 2011.
At least in california, that rolling exemption ended in 2000 ... 1975 is the last year that's exempted.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal
There's nothing at the federal level to keep you from importing a car over 25 years old. Getting it registered in your state is still a variable.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Krakkles posted:

At least in california, that rolling exemption ended in 2000 ... 1975 is the last year that's exempted.
Twats. Sounds like what they did to the UK system (fingers crossed we might see a reversal of that, though).

Anyway, there are two models of the arse-engined Renault 5, the original homologation Turbo ones, and the later Turbo 2 models. They are specced differently, but I really couldn't tell you the ins and outs of it. Unless I'm mistaken, the little 1.4 they use is basically the same as the one from the FWD versions.


And, Renault, the mad bastards, now appear to be heading down the road of building a similarly-specced Twingo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiBv8Mwi_C8

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

I see a lot of this in the Detroit area, and I love it:



A relationship like that gives me a better outlook on relationships in general :)

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


InitialDave posted:

Anyway, there are two models of the arse-engined Renault 5, the original homologation Turbo ones, and the later Turbo 2 models. They are specced differently, but I really couldn't tell you the ins and outs of it. Unless I'm mistaken, the little 1.4 they use is basically the same as the one from the FWD versions.

As you said, the first one was the official homologation spec model, full-on rally kit. The Turbo 2 was nearly the same, but they replaced some of the expensive light weight components with stock Renault 5 parts to bring the price down a bit. Nearly the same performance, though.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


I live in a city with a somewhat strong motoring heritage and the local transport museum has meets seemingly every Saturday during summer. Today I was rushing past and glimpsed this sight...

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.
Since I was out for groceries I filmed a two minute walk along the alternate cruising lane of Big Power Meet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABCiTsXc67I

I'll bring a DSLR with a steadycam rig and separate audio recorder for this sort of stuff next year, and if anybody knows the right people, try to get Top Gear US to come over.

G-Mach
Feb 6, 2011

Fucknag posted:

US is 25 years, right? Group B ended in 1986, so I'd imagine cars from that era have been exempt since 2011.

I heard a story that at least couple of those cars got imported back in the 80s before the 25 year rule. So there are Renault 5 Turbos that have been in the US for awhile.

http://bringatrailer.com/2012/11/28/bat-exclusive-very-original-1984-renault-r5-turbo-2/

^ An example of that.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009




This is the best.

travisray2004
Dec 2, 2004
SuprMan

MrLonghair posted:

Since I was out for groceries I filmed a two minute walk along the alternate cruising lane of Big Power Meet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABCiTsXc67I

I'll bring a DSLR with a steadycam rig and separate audio recorder for this sort of stuff next year, and if anybody knows the right people, try to get Top Gear US to come over.

Seeing the Confederate flags made me cringe. Otherwise, very rad.

nollij
Aug 30, 2006

Wait, wait, wait...

When did this happen?!?

travisray2004 posted:

Seeing the Confederate flags made me cringe. Otherwise, very rad.

Why are there so many confederate flags in Sweden?

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

nollij posted:

Why are there so many confederate flags in Sweden?

In school we learn everything about our former kings from birth to far beyond, and there was a paragraph or two about the confederates and what the flag represents at best. It's like Che Guevara shirts.


Here's a couple of pretties from my Friday photography session in 1920 width for content.





Could have done without the painted on moustache. Check out the chrome material, jesus christ.



e: Ah, the overall #1 in the judging was a 1958 Desoto Adventurer. My local newspaper has a little slideshow here: http://vlt.se/powermeet/1.2135951-har-ar-alla-vinnare

Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jul 6, 2013

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


nollij posted:

Why are there so many confederate flags in Sweden?

Redneck chic without really understanding the context. Blame dukes of hazzard.
It's a bit like when you get someone from Japan thinking "ww2 tanks soldiering and stuff, super cool! Swastikas and helmets, yeah!" and sticking a nazi flag on something.

Valt
May 14, 2006

Oh HELL yeah.
Ultra Carp

MrLonghair posted:

In school we learn everything about our former kings from birth to far beyond, and there was a paragraph or two about the confederates and what the flag represents at best. It's like Che Guevara shirts.


Here's a couple of pretties from my Friday photography session in 1920 width for content.





Could have done without the painted on moustache. Check out the chrome material, jesus christ.

e: Ah, the overall #1 in the judging was a 1958 Desoto Adventurer. My local newspaper has a little slideshow here: http://vlt.se/powermeet/1.2135951-har-ar-alla-vinnare

I mean you do realize that pinstriping is a very serious hot rod passion. Pinstriping is as much of an art as creating the hot rods themselves.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

Valt posted:

I mean you do realize that pinstriping is a very serious hot rod passion. Pinstriping is as much of an art as creating the hot rods themselves.

Aah. Maybe if it was on an actual hot rod and not that second car.

Which I cannot identify. Many odd builds going around.

MrSaturn
Sep 8, 2004

Go ahead, laugh. They all laugh at first...
You can't identify it because it's a hot rod. It's been chopped at the very least, perhaps channeled a bit, too. The headlights are frenched, and those are not stock exhaust pipes... it's likely a Buick of some sort, somewhere between late 40s and early 50s.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Linedance posted:

Redneck chic without really understanding the context. Blame dukes of hazzard.
It's a bit like when you get someone from Japan thinking "ww2 tanks soldiering and stuff, super cool! Swastikas and helmets, yeah!" and sticking a nazi flag on something.

More like chucking a rising sun on your Civic

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

dissss posted:

More like chucking a rising sun on your Civic
More like throwing these things on your Civic:





The first one represents a spring leaf, and is to alert you that the driver is young/inexperienced. The latter is an autumn leaf, advising that the driver is elderly.

Both mean "Back the gently caress off, because this son of a bitch can't drive worth a poo poo". Now you have another reason to laugh at the stickered-up numpties you see in your locality.



As for the pinstriping, regardless of whether it's considered art or takes a lot of skill/effort to do, that doesn't mean Mr LongHair has to like it. I think it just looks fussy a lot of the time - on balance, I think it's for the best on that car, it'd probably look too much of a slab to the nose without the colour there to break it up. Do like the mirroring of the side vents with the exhaust tips, though, that's a nice touch.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

MrLonghair posted:

Aah. Maybe if it was on an actual hot rod and not that second car.

Which I cannot identify. Many odd builds going around.

If you have ever owned an article of Von Dutch clothing I will hunt you down and point an angry finger at you :mad:

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

I love Woodward. Even when it's not the Detroit Dream Cruise, there are always daily impromptu car meets in half of the lots on the street. I take photos when I come across them, I may as well start posting them. Here's a couple from a typical muscle meet that I just ran across:



I'll always stop for a "family member"

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.
Oh god that purple

VikingSkull posted:

If you have ever owned an article of Von Dutch clothing I will hunt you down and point an angry finger at you :mad:



Ok, that piece is awesome!

swampnutz
Oct 30, 2005



Spotted yesterday in New Buffalo, MI.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

MrLonghair posted:

Ok, that piece is awesome!

Yeah, pinstriping is awesome. The style in the picture you quoted basically started simultaneously with hot rodding, with guys like Von Dutch, Ed "Big Daddy" Roth, and Dean Jeffries leading the charge. You're not from the US, so it's ok that you don't know that. It's a huge part of our traditional car culture, though. Pinstriping itself has been around since the dawn of the automobile, and even before that. Old stagecoaches in the American West often featured pinstriping and gold-leaf, too!

Even today, at shows where old hot rods are the majority of the cars, you'll find one or more people with carts of one-shot enamel wandering around offering on the spot services.

Here's a demo of traditional pinstriping.

It's incredibly hard to pull off correctly. In most cases you're working with a finished paint job and laying stripe on cleared panels, so loving up is not an option.

Here's part one of a series featuring the two best pinstripers ever, Big Daddy and Von Dutch, talking about pinstriping.

That second video is basically one of the coolest interviews I've ever seen, they are the Michelangelo and Da Vinci of hot rodding, like the first comment says. Two of my absolute heroes and the inspiration for me to learn paint and body work when I was a teenager.

Just don't read about Von Dutch's personal life, he was a deeply troubled guy but goddamn was he a talented artist.

Here's Von Dutch way back in the day doing his thing.

Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jul 7, 2013

Rubiks Pubes
Dec 5, 2003

I wanted to be a neo deconstructivist, but Mom wouldn't let me.
I have been trying to learn pin striping for about a year now. It is so loving hard to do.

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

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Piss OK Genitals intact
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VikingSkull posted:

Yeah, pinstriping is awesome. The style in the picture you quoted basically started simultaneously with hot rodding, with guys like Von Dutch, Ed "Big Daddy" Roth, and Dean Jeffries leading the charge. You're not from the US, so it's ok that you don't know that. It's a huge part of our traditional car culture, though. Pinstriping itself has been around since the dawn of the automobile, and even before that. Old stagecoaches in the American West often featured pinstriping and gold-leaf, too!

Even today, at shows where old hot rods are the majority of the cars, you'll find one or more people with carts of one-shot enamel wandering around offering on the spot services.

Here's a demo of traditional pinstriping.

It's incredibly hard to pull off correctly. In most cases you're working with a finished paint job and laying stripe on cleared panels, so loving up is not an option.

Here's part one of a series featuring the two best pinstripers ever, Big Daddy and Von Dutch, talking about pinstriping.

That second video is basically one of the coolest interviews I've ever seen, they are the Michelangelo and Da Vinci of hot rodding, like the first comment says. Two of my absolute heroes and the inspiration for me to learn paint and body work when I was a teenager.

Just don't read about Von Dutch's personal life, he was a deeply troubled guy but goddamn was he a talented artist.

Here's Von Dutch way back in the day doing his thing.



Thanks for this post. I've never really been super into the hot rod scene (although I do find things that I love), but pinstriping has always fascinated me. I'm working through the first video now and am just blown away at this guy's nonchalance and talent. I've always wanted to try my hand at pinstriping, but never really knew how or where to start.

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


Darko posted:

I love Woodward.

'Sup Woodward Corridor buddy? I'm down in Ferndale, and I can verify that the car porn up and down Woodward during the summer is ridiculous. I hate Dream Cruise, though. The wife and I have been out of town every year for the past eight or so years, and that's the way I like it.

If you see a dude bombing around on a flat green and satin black late 70s Japanese bike with a shaft drive and a Model A tail light, pull up and ask me if I've got stairs in my house.

CroatianAlzheimers fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Jul 8, 2013

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
This morning's Jalopnik car ad is loving ridiculous:



I want it I want it I want it I want it

http://californiacar.com/hcity.htm

Phone fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Jul 8, 2013

Octopus Magic
Dec 19, 2003

I HATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU LIKE* AND I NEED TO BE SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT EVERY TIME I POST

*unless it's a DSM in which case we cool ^_^

Phone posted:

I want it I want it I want it I want it

http://californiacar.com/hcity.htm

I was totally into it until I saw 20k :psyduck:

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


It comes with a fridge and a motorbike. Sold.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
Oh poo poo, that Motocompo alone is worth some bucks. Those things are rare as gently caress in the US and fully awesome.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Some nerd said that they sell for $3000. The car is overpriced, but it presses all of the right buttons for me. Honda 80s econohatch with a turbo and a small motorbike? In fantastic shape?

SoylentCola
Mar 21, 2001

Ultra Carp

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle



The industry's largest driveshaft :heysexy:

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Phone posted:

Some nerd said that they sell for $3000. The car is overpriced

Not a) in the US, registered and legal or b) in that kind of shape. I was surprised at 20k, I thought it would be somewhat higher. Such an awesome little car (with bonus folding minibike!)

Edit: After looking a bit to see what these actually go for (looks like about $5k in Australian dollars, whatever those are), it looks like this car has been through several owners/looks. Full thread here: http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=3081655 (front spoiler different, wheels different, Japanese plates different, but look at the battery -- same connections, same yellow crimp end going nowhere on the positive terminal, same crack on the minibike plastic) Looks like they wanted $15,000 on eBay last December: http://www.dailyturismo.com/2012/12/15k-1986-honda-city-turbo-ii-w.html

I like the look of it with these wheels much better:

meatpimp fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jul 8, 2013

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

KozmoNaut posted:

The industry's largest driveshaft :heysexy:

So it can keep her rear end planted but what about the chin?

Hugh G. Rectum
Mar 1, 2011

More cars should come with cooled glove boxes for drinks, that's loving awesome.

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Darko
Dec 23, 2004

CroatianAlzheimers posted:

'Sup Woodward Corridor buddy? I'm down in Ferndale, and I can verify that the car porn up and down Woodward during the summer is ridiculous. I hate Dream Cruise, though. The wife and I have been out of town every year for the past eight or so years, and that's the way I like it.

If you see a dude bombing around on a flat green and satin black late 70s Japanese bike with a shaft drive and a Model A tail light, pull up and ask me if I've got stairs in my house.

I used to live off of 13 and Woodward and I -hated- Dream Cruise. I'm up in Rochester now, so it's a billion percent less annoying since I can avoid it, though. I normally don't go because I don't particularly like the crowd, but I may head down this year just for the car porn.

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