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I just got an email saying an answer is correct, so maybe something failed? Try sending another email. They've been p. cool.
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 05:07 |
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pokeyman posted:Hey, these are the jerks who had an "email us and we'll give you some cool crypto problems to solve", and I did and they never wrote back so I wrote again and they still never wrote back so now I'm sad. I emailed them and they gave me some cool crypto problems to solve (and then more when I solved them, rinse repeat). Maybe it's just you?
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 06:15 |
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DAT NIGGA HOW posted:You're telling me its impossible to create a completely cryptographically secure communication application in the browser? Thats an interesting claim. Are you copy-pasting from Hacker News right now or are you serious? Have you ever used a computer before?
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 08:25 |
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Who is "how!" and does he work for cryptocat or something that he feels the need to (re?)register just to derail the thread over his sadly feeble point?
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 10:06 |
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DAT NIGGA HOW posted:You're telling me its impossible to create a completely cryptographically secure communication application in the browser? Thats an interesting claim. The sandboxing which doesn't work. The fact that users routinely download and run untrusted code in their browser every day. Flash. The lack of mlocking. Java. Garbage collection pauses that can make timing analysis laughably easy. Lack of access to decent entropy pool. These are off the top of my head, I can probably think of a few more.
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 11:44 |
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There's also the fact that if you're relying on javascript code provided by a server to do crypto for you, you might as just send the data to that server and have it do the crypto there. Your data is exactly as (in-)secure. If you're going to write an extension or something that people install on their computer, you should just bundle scrypt with it and then your extension can be a wrapper around that instead of trying to roll your own crypto (which you will gently caress up).
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 11:53 |
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RoadCrewWorker posted:Who is "how!" and does he work for cryptocat or something that he feels the need to (re?)register just to derail the thread over his sadly feeble point? Here have some reading material: how!! NBV4(Pre how!! How)] Hughlander fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jul 7, 2013 |
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ExcessBLarg! posted:His post does contain an opinion ("CryptoCat sucks"), but it's backed by facts and verifiable statements that enable other experts to agree with his assessment or refute it. Not to mention the guy submitted a patch that generated stronger keys. Sounds pretty constructive to me. I assume how didn't actually read the post, or else he was so blinded by the tone that he didn't notice the content.
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 16:01 |
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Hughlander posted:Here have some reading material: nbv4?
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 16:02 |
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Hughlander posted:Here have some reading material: Did you mean he's the OP in this immortal classic http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3216686#post367234074 ? RoadCrewWorker fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jul 7, 2013 |
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RoadCrewWorker posted:Thanks, but that url tag is broken and the search url just returns "Sorry, there were no more results matching your search query to display." so that's a bit less material than i had hoped for. I fixed it (SA added a redirect to find posts by user that I didn't notice.) and added the 2nd username, but yes that's who it's referring to.
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 16:14 |
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Is how!! really nbv4? This explains so much.
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 17:49 |
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Least surprising reveal in CoC history.
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 18:29 |
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shrughes is teapot.
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 18:37 |
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shruges posts don't have enough commas to be teapot posts
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 19:38 |
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csammis posted:shruges posts don't have enough commas to be teapot posts btw guys, I'm yegge. Edit: Man, I completely forgot the whole nbv4/how!! thing. I'm getting old. floWenoL fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jul 7, 2013 |
# ? Jul 7, 2013 20:51 |
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C++ code:
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 22:02 |
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I found this in a third party header file the other day:code:
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# ? Jul 7, 2013 22:21 |
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seiken posted:
I think this is a pretty reasonable define to put in.
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 00:33 |
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DAT NIGGA HOW posted:Crypography is the kind of thing where if you understand the concepts, building a cryptocat site is trivial. If you don't understand the concepts, then cryptography is hard. "Whoever thinks his problem can be solved using cryptography, doesn't understand his problem and doesn't understand cryptography." -- Roger Needham/Butler Lampson (who attribute it to each other)
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 18:46 |
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tef posted:"Whoever thinks his problem can be solved using cryptography, doesn't understand his problem and doesn't understand cryptography." Sounds like someone should have cryptographically signed their comment.
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 19:48 |
Maybe I'm just an idiot, but cryptography is a complicated subject. Could its implementation ever be classified as trivial? Even more so if you are involved with important details / security. I will stick with using libraries from trusted, more knowledgeable developers.
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 19:51 |
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Don Mega posted:Maybe I'm just an idiot, but cryptography is a complicated subject. Could its implementation ever be classified as trivial? Even more so if you are involved with important details / security. It's easy as poo poo to create a one-time pad that is impossible to crack! Snarkiness aside, it depends on what exactly you're implementing. Yes a lot of the larger/more useful applications of cryptography are very hard and totally nontrivial.
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 19:57 |
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qntm posted:Sounds like someone should have cryptographically signed their comment. You must not understand mistaken attribution and you must not understand cryptography! Seriously though that quote doesn't make any sense. Am I misinterpreting or is it really trying to say that cryptography cannot solve any problems?
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 20:35 |
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Just like regexes
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 20:38 |
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Otto Skorzeny posted:Just like regexes You mean those things I use to parse HTML?
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 20:52 |
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So today I edited a file with 4 space indenting, tab indenting, 2 space indenting, and I believe there was a few lines with 5 space indenting. And of course tabs and spaces mixed on the same line. What I really love is the if that is indented with spaces, except for the closing brace, so it's way over to the right.
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 21:53 |
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zergstain posted:So today I edited a file with 4 space indenting, tab indenting, 2 space indenting, and I believe there was a few lines with 5 space indenting. And of course tabs and spaces mixed on the same line. What I really love is the if that is indented with spaces, except for the closing brace, so it's way over to the right. I avoid this by insisting my coworkers right-align all code.
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 22:06 |
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Your IDE doesn't manage whitespace for you? What a primitive environment.
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 22:07 |
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zergstain posted:So today I edited a file with 4 space indenting, tab indenting, 2 space indenting, and I believe there was a few lines with 5 space indenting. And of course tabs and spaces mixed on the same line. What I really love is the if that is indented with spaces, except for the closing brace, so it's way over to the right. This sounds like a problem that could be solved with a quick ctrl-shift-F.
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 22:17 |
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You mean Ctrl+K, Ctrl+D?
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 22:24 |
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Our team is currently reviewing our c++ style guide (our current one is basically badly adapted from an old C style guide so a lot of stuff is missing/inappropriate) and today we spent a good 30 minutes discussing whether or not there should be a space between if and (
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# ? Jul 8, 2013 22:28 |
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Everyone uses vi/vim. I'm sure if we used an IDE, people would just configure the indenting the way they like and we'd still have the same problem. And I know vim can take care of it, but good luck pushing everybody to use the same config. Edit: As much as I'd love to, reformatting the whole file is frowned upon because I would show up on every line on CVS annotate (primitive is right, but we're working on a Perforce migration, not sure if that will help in this case though). zergstain fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jul 8, 2013 |
# ? Jul 8, 2013 22:29 |
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Dicky B posted:Our team is currently reviewing our c++ style guide (our current one is basically badly adapted from an old C style guide so a lot of stuff is missing/inappropriate) and today we spent a good 30 minutes discussing whether or not there should be a space between if and ( Yes, there should be.
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# ? Jul 9, 2013 00:34 |
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You need a smaller review meeting.
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# ? Jul 9, 2013 04:39 |
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What about if( <expr> ){?
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# ? Jul 9, 2013 04:44 |
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Jabor posted:What about if( <expr> ){? kill yourself
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# ? Jul 9, 2013 04:47 |
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Jabor posted:What about if( <expr> ){? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa And yes, there should be a space, because if is not a function call.
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# ? Jul 9, 2013 04:48 |
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code:
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# ? Jul 9, 2013 05:04 |
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Strong Sauce posted:
fix that opening brace and it is perfect
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