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X_Toad
Apr 2, 2011
Hatred thinking that Dean is going through some sort of self-hurting phase is going to be a running gag, isn't it? First the cutting, now the anorexia, what will be next?

A bit disappointed by Dean in that episode. Aside from showing that he's really having some deep mommy issues, he was more of a prop to be rescued by Gary and Hank. I mean, are the other characters aware that he set-up that encounter with Myra rather than having been kidnapped?

X_Toad fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jul 8, 2013

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Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Ghost Hat posted:

The episode was so good, it made me not hate Dermott anymore.

How can that be.

Because it gets replaced with a growing disgust for Dean? I wouldn't be surprised if Dean ends up being just like Doc despite all his best efforts and that Hank actually ends up being the better emotionally adjusted of the two. Relatively speaking.

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!
I like Dean more and more because really, sullen teenage rebellion is the least of what Rusty deserves from his kids

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos

Ghost Hat posted:

The episode was so good, it made me not hate Dermott anymore.

How can that be.

Honestly for me, Dermott is that one guy in the group everyone has. The one guy who bullshits about everything he does but he likes to kick it. I used to think he was annoying but well considering how much he interacts with Hank it's been pretty good.

The fact that he's sort of the older brother of the group is pretty funny.

I actually like Dean the way he is. Going against his father. I mean Rusty is an rear end in a top hat. Hell we saw in season 4 he was trying to make Dean a super scientist, just like his dad. We clearly see Dean didn't want to do that at all. Besides there is still some cracks of Dean being optimistic. Especially what he told Hank.

Overall I really enjoyed the episode. Glad to see Dr. O made an appearance.

Never thought I would see Mommy again. I do give kudos to Rusty for at least coming clean that isn't their mom. Minus kudos for telling them he needed his daycare as well. The Cuckoo homage had me laughing really hard, much more so because it's the same exact guy who was interviewed by the Revenge Society.

I guess tip toeing all the drat time made him a nutso. :v:

Shindragon fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Jul 8, 2013

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Oh my God I thought I'd finally gotten this out of my head.

Goddamnit Venture Bros.

Renzuko
Oct 10, 2012


X_Toad posted:

A bit disappointed by Dean in that episode. Aside from showing that he's really having some deep mommy issues, he was more of a prop to be rescued by Gary and Hank. I mean, are the other characters aware that he set-up that encounter with Myra rather than having been kidnapped?

To be fair, he set up an encounter with myra in what he assumed was a secure place, he had no idea that she had a god drat cult going on in the insane asylum.

Protagorean
May 19, 2013

by Azathoth

Shindragon posted:

The Cuckoo homage had me laughing really hard, much more so because it's the same exact guy who was interviewed by the Revenge Society.

I guess tip toeing all the drat time made him a nutso. :v:

Yeah, I was worried I was the only one who recognized the native dude from the Revenge Society. Also, I really adore the fact that this whole episode basically stems from the B-plot thread of the episode where Henchman Zero kidnaps everyone. That was the best loving episode.

Also, goddamn, Myra. Aside from the occasional flashback, I never thought we'd see her again after

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PSuhYcWhmM

...because holy poo poo, that episode aired in 2006. Seriously, this episode tied up so many plot threads that I'm sure most of us thought would never be touched (like where the hovertank was the whole time). I'm just wondering though, Rusty said he convinced Myra the kids were hers for free daycare, yet in "The Invisible Hand of Fate", we see her getting taken away by O.S.I. when Hank and Dean are only babies. Hell, I think they were newborn then. Oversight? Unreliable narrator?

e: the next thread title should be The TV IV > Venture Bros Season V: Dr. Venture or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Dermott

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

I was oddly touched by Rusty and his boys (including Dermot) hanging out at the breakfast table together, shooting the poo poo. Also I'm so glad Helper is back to normal, I love hearing him chatter :3:

Great episode.

X_Toad
Apr 2, 2011

Protagorean posted:

I'm just wondering though, Rusty said he convinced Myra the kids were hers for free daycare, yet in "The Invisible Hand of Fate", we see her getting taken away by O.S.I. when Hank and Dean are only babies. Hell, I think they were newborn then. Oversight? Unreliable narrator?
"Intentional" oversight is the most likely. Hammer and Publick aren't shy about contradicting 'facts' from earlier episodes to better serve their new ideas and plots. Dermott probably being the best example, the big reveal concerning his parentage contradicting a line in the Dr. Qwymn episode. I wanted to add something about his hair color, but then I remembered that she was actually blonde in the flash-back, not a red-head as she is now.

Daktar
Aug 19, 2008

I done turned 'er head into a slug an' now she's a-stucked!
Also, how the hell does a man convince a woman that his children are hers? You'd think she'd remember the prerequisite event. I suppose Myra could have been so madly in love with Rusty that she just rolled with it rather than confront the possibility of him being unfaithful.

Ghost Hat
Jun 25, 2009

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.
Huh.



Well it looks like he finally found his talent. But what about Venture Home News??

Leospeare
Jun 27, 2003
I lack the ability to think of a creative title.

Ghost Hat posted:

Huh.



Well it looks like he finally found his talent. But what about Venture Home News??

Bit of a junior Tony Stark vibe in that picture.

Daktar posted:

Also, how the hell does a man convince a woman that his children are hers? You'd think she'd remember the prerequisite event. I suppose Myra could have been so madly in love with Rusty that she just rolled with it rather than confront the possibility of him being unfaithful.

I think on some level she's aware that she didn't physically, actually give birth to them, but that doesn't matter because she should have, in a perfect and just world, etc. The fact that they were never in her womb in the first place is an error she thinks she can correct through sheer willpower.

Before Brock, Myra was the OSI agent assigned to protect Rusty, correct? So the question is was her insanity apparent before that and someone at OSI hates Rusty (okay, everyone at OSI probably hates Rusty)? Or did she only become insane when faced with the possibility of having a family rather than a job?

Leospeare fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Jul 8, 2013

X_Toad
Apr 2, 2011

Daktar posted:

Also, how the hell does a man convince a woman that his children are hers? You'd think she'd remember the prerequisite event. I suppose Myra could have been so madly in love with Rusty that she just rolled with it rather than confront the possibility of him being unfaithful.
Theories-maker are already at work thinking up the possibility that Rusty meant that he specifically made Myra believe that Dean was her son.

Ghost Hat posted:

Huh.



Well it looks like he finally found his talent. But what about Venture Home News??
What was that book he read in the Zeus episode, when Hatred told him that 'this reading non-sense is unhealthy'? Something about cathode-rays tubes?

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Leospeare posted:

Before Brock, Myra was the OSI agent assigned to protect Rusty, correct? So the question is was her insanity apparent before that and someone at OSI hates Rusty (okay, everyone at OSI probably hates Rusty)? Or did she only become insane when faced with the possibility of having a family rather than a job?

After last seasons finale and "What Color is Your Cleansuit?" I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Rusty caused her insanity somehow, maybe by accident. Testing experimental hormones on her something like that.

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.
She was probably already messed up to begin with and Rusty took advantage of it. Myra's flashbacks show Rusty as meek and vulnerable but Rusty was already shown to be a jerk in college.

My favorite jokes have to be the Dunwich Asylum and Hatred talking about pro-ana.

suddenlyissoon
Feb 17, 2002

Don't be sad that I am gone.
It was quite uncomfortable as an employee came in to my office as I was watching the latest episode and had to hear "do you want me to go get the lotion or do you want to just use blood and clown makeup as lube".

New Yorp New Yorp
Jul 18, 2003

Only in Kenya.
Pillbug

suddenlyissoon posted:

It was quite uncomfortable as an employee came in to my office as I was watching the latest episode and had to hear "do you want me to go get the lotion or do you want to just use blood and clown makeup as lube".

Then don't watch cartoons that use potentially inappropriate language at work?

[edit]
Unless your job title is "cartoons that use potentially inappropriate language-watcher" of course

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Sereri posted:

After last seasons finale and "What Color is Your Cleansuit?" I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Rusty caused her insanity somehow, maybe by accident. Testing experimental hormones on her something like that.

I doubt it was a lab accident. Myra's issues are a lot more funny / compelling if they're the result of nothing but emotional manipulation.

What I imagine is that she is the equivalent of a White Knight. Rusty's all shaken by the death of his father, has no freaking clue how to run Venture Industries, and his vulnerability is on display. She feels compelled to protect him. And the fact that it actually is her job to protect him just strengthens her emotional connection to Rusty. She gets really clingy and overprotective. The rapidly blurring line between her job and her personal life gets her all twisted up inside, which would only be made worse when Rusty apparently started sleeping around and shows up one day with two babies. Faced with either accepting a terrible truth (that the person she's bodyguarding isn't the fragile snowflake she needs him to be) or an absurd lie (that she is, somehow, the mother of these babies, despite never giving birth), it seems like she completely cracked and believed the latter.

johntfs
Jun 7, 2013

by Cowcaster
Soiled Meat

quote:

Theories-maker are already at work thinking up the possibility that Rusty meant that he specifically made Myra believe that Dean was her son.

Once she became aware of him being at the asylum, Myra referred to Hank as her son, too.

I missed the first five minutes or so. What exactly was the deal with Rusty and Ted?

Optimus Subprime
Mar 26, 2005

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?

johntfs posted:

Once she became aware of him being at the asylum, Myra referred to Hank as her son, too.

I missed the first five minutes or so. What exactly was the deal with Rusty and Ted?

It's just a continuation of the Zeus plotline from last season, where they used a Teddy Ruxpin as the voice for one of Rusty's kidnappers. Teddy is just Hank and Dermott's cover for when they go out late and play as Shallow Gravy.

I doubt that Myra was chemically or scientifically manipulated in any way, Rusty probably just emotionally manipulated her and she may have started with a few screws loose anyway.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Well they certainly are handling all the loose ends.

I'm so pissed I won't have internet next Monday to catch up on another incredible episode of the series.

Hamhandler
Aug 9, 2008

[I want to] shit in your fucking mouth. [I'm going to] slap your fucking mouth. [I'm going to] slap your real mother across the face [laughter]. Fuck you, you're still a rookie. I'll kill you.
Why are there so few episodes this season? They've previously had 13, this season only has 8 for some reason?

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Bobulus posted:

The rapidly blurring line between her job and her personal life gets her all twisted up inside, which would only be made worse when Rusty apparently started sleeping around and shows up one day with two babies.
He might not have shown up with them. We know he grew clones of them starting at the same time, who's to say the originals didn't spend nine months in a tank too? In which case it'd be pretty easy for her to believe she's the mother, since not giving birth doesn't rule it out.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


They were pretty explicit in the Halloween episode that Hank and Dean 1.0 were normal children.

quote:

Ben: Dean, you have it all wrong. You have a mommy, and your dad is your dad. They made you by getting drunk and forgetting to wear a condom, like everybody else. And your dad loved you so much that when you got a boo-boo, he kissed it and made it better and made it go away.

Now, I suppose they could have extracted the embryo and grew them in a tank after that, but it seems unlikely.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

h_double posted:

I can't believe I never noticed Myra Brandish is a play on Myra Breckinridge, a Gore Vidal novel in which the main character anally rapes a young man named Rusty.

Goddamn.

They made a movie about this too, and it is reviewed in an old school Agony Booth article.

suddenlyissoon
Feb 17, 2002

Don't be sad that I am gone.

Ithaqua posted:

Then don't watch cartoons that use potentially inappropriate language at work?

[edit]
Unless your job title is "cartoons that use potentially inappropriate language-watcher" of course

Then what would I do...work?

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
Rusty VS Jonas Venture Sr. Who's more horrible?

Because before I'd have said Jonas but Rusty is giving his dad a serious run for his money here.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

DarkCrawler posted:

Rusty VS Jonas Venture Sr. Who's more horrible?

Because before I'd have said Jonas but Rusty is giving his dad a serious run for his money here.

Jonas made Rusty kill a man with a key when he was young.

Harry
Jun 13, 2003

I do solemnly swear that in the year 2015 I will theorycraft my wallet as well as my WoW
Maybe I missed it, but why is everyone assuming that Rusty caused Myra to go nuts? So far Brock is the most normal person we've seen from OSI.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
Shoreleave

:colbert:

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Nothing normal about that Holy Diver bit.

Maduo
Sep 8, 2006

You see all the colors.
All of them.


Harry posted:

Maybe I missed it, but why is everyone assuming that Rusty caused Myra to go nuts? So far Brock is the most normal person we've seen from OSI.

When you deal with strength suits and the ghost mafia all day, what is normal really?

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

Catfish Noodlin posted:

Why are there so few episodes this season? They've previously had 13, this season only has 8 for some reason?

After season 4, Adult Swim and Jackson & Doc worked out a two seasons renewal deal, opting for 10 episode orders rather than the traditional 13 to preserve the crew's sanity/have a significantly faster turnaround between seasons than in years past. On top of the shorter episode order, scheduling wound up biting the audience in a way: Despite its "Special" label the Halloween episode was part of the Season 5 production order, and the hourlong season premiere counted as 2 episodes toward the overall total. In the end we're left with just 7 standard half-hour episodes.

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.
Dermott is the most normal. He's just socially awkward enough to roll with the Ventures.

Vira
Mar 6, 2007

JethroMcB posted:

After season 4, Adult Swim and Jackson & Doc worked out a two seasons renewal deal, opting for 10 episode orders rather than the traditional 13 to preserve the crew's sanity/have a significantly faster turnaround between seasons than in years past. On top of the shorter episode order, scheduling wound up biting the audience in a way: Despite its "Special" label the Halloween episode was part of the Season 5 production order, and the hourlong season premiere counted as 2 episodes toward the overall total. In the end we're left with just 7 standard half-hour episodes.

I thought the season final was also an hour long?

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


I think Brock was being truthful when he explained Myra to the boys that first time.

Joust
Dec 7, 2007

No Ledges.
Crimerobot and the the line "We programmed him to think only about crime, he's obsessed with it" loving slayed me.

reignofevil
Nov 7, 2008
Crime-robot is not getting nearly enough love.

Really, Ghost-Robot, Crime-Robot, any robot that is programmed for something nonsensical is pretty much instant funny in my book.

LuchadoresDelNixon
Feb 7, 2007

Moonbase Alpha provides a realistic simulation of life on a natural satellite

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Oh my God I thought I'd finally gotten this out of my head.

Goddamnit Venture Bros.

I came here to post cleaner, clearer "Bula Vinaka, beachside" goodness. I'm very enamored with this old meme, mostly because I'm juuuuust barely too young to know about it.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vsonvx/3866198086/

And Dermott's "clown paint" line was the laugh-out-loudest moment for me.

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Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
I laughed pretty hard when Doc called for help after the jeep accident. Hatred's delivery was perfect.

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