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Justin Credible posted:One episode of this new season has the word 'psychopath' in it more times than the movie 'Seven Psychopaths'. This is not even hyperbole. Wanna go back to Dark Passenger?
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Paradox Personified posted:And why does Vogel have a Brian-esque painting? Looks like the artist just chose to truncate the limb because it'd throw off the composition or even run off the page RICKON WALNUTSBANE fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jul 8, 2013 |
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Jul 8, 2013 07:57
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RICKON WALNUTSBANE posted:Looks like the artist just chose to truncate the limb because it'd throw off the composition or ever run off the page No, the whole thing is there, we get a 2nd viewpoint later on. ⇩ They shoot in Cali and you can see a lot of landmarks, streets, bridges all the time.. Was most noticeable during the Trinity getaway, for example. Paradox Personified fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Jul 8, 2013 |
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Jul 8, 2013 08:01
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My immersion was ruined because Lake Nona is in Orlando, and they were acting like it was in Miami.
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escape artist posted:My immersion was ruined because Lake Nona is in Orlando, and they were acting like it was in Miami. They ruined up the illusion of Miami when they stopped doing shots of obscenely sweaty backs.
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Jul 8, 2013 08:50
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PostNouveau posted:But I've got a sinking feeling that instead we're in for an assload of Quinn Whoa, whoa, whoa right there. We already had that, and it wasn't pretty.   
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Jul 8, 2013 09:51
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Jeez, can you indulge a man some lovely Jennifer Carpenter pics? Normally I wouldn't ask but you just etched gross Quair rear end in my skull.
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Jul 8, 2013 10:06
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escape artist posted:Jeez, can you indulge a man some lovely Jennifer Carpenter pics? Normally I wouldn't ask but you just etched gross Quair rear end in my skull. Don't mind if I do! 
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Jul 8, 2013 10:55
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Yeah I'm agreeing with the crowd here. Dr. Brainlady is definitely the Big Bad of this season.
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Jul 8, 2013 11:33
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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Her theories are all bullshit. "Psychopaths are important for this world because, um, evolution! Great politicians and CEOs have been psychopathic because I say they were, and without them the human race wouldn't exist anymore. Evolution!" She's loving worse than the Indian scientist dude on Heroes.
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Jul 8, 2013 14:47
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Mohinder was a pretty good door stopper, though.
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Jul 8, 2013 14:50
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Series finale is Vogel assembling the darkest superhero team ever: The Murdermen. For serious though I don't see her ending up as a villain because after Travis Marshall it would be too redundant and silly, even for Dexter. They'll tease that she's bad and turning him to eeeeevil but after she continues to see that Dexter has emotions she'll have her Fairy Godmother moment to go "You're a real boy after all, Dexter Morgan!" right before getting killed. She's basically an Anti-Hero version of Brother Sam, who was one of the only good parts of the season that never really existed anyway what season?
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Jul 8, 2013 15:33
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2011/06/14/why-some-psychopaths-make-great-ceos/ Is probably the article the writers were thinking of when they wrote Vogel's lines.
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Jul 8, 2013 15:45
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Its a meme that pops up in lovely magazines like, monthly. "Are you a psychopath? Take our test! Scored low huh? Good for you, thats what makes you morally superior to those multi-millionare CEOs!"
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Jul 8, 2013 15:53
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The worst thing about the word psychopath is that it's not even the proper term for what she's talking about. The whole "emotionless lack of empathy childhood killing animals becoming ritualized murder" is antisocial personality disorder. Like, I know it's tv, but they could have done literally five minutes of research to see what a neuropsychologist (but then why would she be counseling Harry/Dex, who at that point have no known neurological problems?  ) or whatever Dr. Brainlady is is supposed to sound like. Rather than just making her use smartwords and be British.
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I've got a theory that Dexter was actually her experiment to see if she could actually "create" a psychopath.
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Jul 8, 2013 16:41
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PT6A posted:I've got a theory that Dexter was actually her experiment to see if she could actually "create" a psychopath. By having a drug dealer chop up his moms with a chainsaw when he was a baby? That's some pretty impressive planning.
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Geekkake posted:By having a drug dealer chop up his moms with a chainsaw when he was a baby? That's some pretty impressive planning. No, I think that was just a good backstory to get Harry on-board. Brainlady admits that his behaviour is unusual for psychopaths. Perhaps he was traumatized without being turned into a psychopath.
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PT6A posted:No, I think that was just a good backstory to get Harry on-board. Brainlady admits that his behaviour is unusual for psychopaths. Perhaps he was traumatized without being turned into a psychopath. Didn't they show Harry rescuing dexter out of the container? Maybe Vogel hypnotized him?
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Jul 8, 2013 17:10
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Guys, guys, Dr. Vogel is a chrononaut from a dystopian future where there are no psychopaths (psychopaths psychopaths) and so there aren't enough successful politicians and CEOs and everyone is entirely too happy.
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Jul 8, 2013 17:16
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Junkfist posted:They'll tease that she's bad and turning him to eeeeevil but after she continues to see that Dexter has emotions she'll have her Fairy Godmother moment to go "You're a real boy after all, Dexter Morgan!" right before getting killed. Yeah, I'm wondering how many times she can say "people like you don't usually ____" before she realizes he doesn't actually fit her criteria of what a psychopath is. QuickbreathFinisher posted:The worst thing about the word psychopath is that it's not even the proper term for what she's talking about. The whole "emotionless lack of empathy childhood killing animals becoming ritualized murder" is antisocial personality disorder. Like, I know it's tv, but they could have done literally five minutes of research to see what a neuropsychologist (but then why would she be counseling Harry/Dex, who at that point have no known neurological problems? People use the term psychopath in the literature. She's supposed to be a neuropsychiatrist, which is interesting because I've never heard of anyone having that title in a clinical context before. There is a journal of neuropsychiatry, though, so I guess some of them are out there. Maybe neurologist/psychiatrist? She did handle that brain like a pro, anyway. I may be misremembering this, but didn't Jaimie totally shut Quinn down at a party after Deb dumped him? I wonder what turned her opinion around? Or maybe the writers just forgot. Also, I was thinking Deb didn't kill El Sapo and her blood was on the car because he'd just beaten the poo poo out of her, but then she had to go and confess.
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origami posted:Didn't they show Harry rescuing dexter out of the container? Maybe Vogel hypnotized him? I probably used the wrong word, but what I mean was that Dexter was traumatized by what happened to his mother, but not turned into a psychopath. Brainlady used it an an excuse for why Dexter was a psychopath, while recommending things to Harry that would actually turn Dexter into a psychopath. It's far-fetched, but given the fact that he's clearly not emotionless and does indeed care about people, I think it's possible.
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Things I liked about this episode: -General amazing direction by Hall. -Deb realizing during her talk with Quinn that she's the killer in the El Sapo case. -Dexter realizing she's realized it and pulling her out. -Generally this season comes off as quite dark. Since this is the final season maybe they're gonna go out with a bang. Or get boring, that could happen. Also when Dexter was running the blood that turned out to be Deb's I wanted the blood to turn out to belong to Doakes because of this thread.
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Jul 8, 2013 17:38
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13/f/cali posted:Also when Dexter was running the blood that turned out to be Deb's I wanted the blood to turn out to belong to Doakes because of this thread. "It's not Deb's blood. It's not even human. It's amphibian. He. Used. Me. SAPO!!!!!!!!!"
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I don't feel like the episode was any better or worse directed than any other episode of the show. Do television directors even do much? The script is written, everybody is in place, the tone of the show is already firmly established... The hard stuff is already done. I'd be curious to hear examples of what made this a well directed episode and/or examples of past episodes that weren't so well directed.
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PT6A posted:I probably used the wrong word, but what I mean was that Dexter was traumatized by what happened to his mother, but not turned into a psychopath. Brainlady used it an an excuse for why Dexter was a psychopath, while recommending things to Harry that would actually turn Dexter into a psychopath. Yeah, considering it was at her suggestion that Harry started to bring him out on actual cases to look at murder scenes, that might make sense.
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Timett posted:I don't feel like the episode was any better or worse directed than any other episode of the show. Do television directors even do much? The script is written, everybody is in place, the tone of the show is already firmly established... The hard stuff is already done. Yeah, some television directors are better than others. Some people are just lazy and have their underlings do all the shots and then make a few calls, others are hands on and take everything seriously and try to make shot composition mean something. I didn't notice anything particularly great about this episode of Dexter, but Hannibal/Breaking Bad have spoiled me.
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Darko posted:Yeah, some television directors are better than others. Some people are just lazy and have their underlings do all the shots and then make a few calls, others are hands on and take everything seriously and try to make shot composition mean something. If you want to see a show where the director makes a HUGE impact, have a look at The Mentalist. It's a pretty run of the mill "police procedural where the main character has some crazy quirk" (ala Castle, Monk and so on), but for the last few seasons, there's been one episode per season directed by the actor who plays the lead, Simon Baker. Those episodes are so different in tone, shot choice and pacing that it could almost be a different show, and you can definitely tell when you're watching one of his. It's really striking, most of the time the show is fairly light and fluffy, but those episodes are almost like Hannibal or something (though without the fantasy sequences).
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For what it's worth I liked his direction: Judicious use of wide shots and interesting framing/blocking. One shot is the one of Deb saying the "Didn't want to hate you, wanted the opposite" line where she looks up. Big empty space on the right and you're not expecting her to look almost directly into the camera. That kind of startled me. Also:
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Timett posted:I don't feel like the episode was any better or worse directed than any other episode of the show. Do television directors even do much? The script is written, everybody is in place, the tone of the show is already firmly established... The hard stuff is already done. The use of the VHS tape stuff at the beginning and Deb's freakout felt pretty non-standard Dexter to me. Also Dexter breaking into that guy's house played around with the conventions of the series in a fun way as well. Normally when the other car rolls up, Dexter would panic and we'd all know that he's going to get out anyway so the tension is ruined before it even begins. In this episode it just cut right to a different scene instead. That may have been script or direction, though.
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The "Dr. Brainlady is secretly a coldblooded psychopath just like Dexter!!!" plotline is so dumb and obvious, even for Dexter, a series whose bread and butter is being dumb and obvious. It almost makes me feel like they're setting the audience up to be as skeptical of her as Dexter is only to have the Real Villain turn out to be someone completely different and Much Eviler than Dr. "Unorthodox Experiments" Brainlady. But that's way too smart for this dumb show. 
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Jul 8, 2013 23:44
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I liked the episode. There was no mention of the kid, and I love the current dynamic of dark manipulating mother-figure. Vogel will try and get Dexter to distance himself from Deb and embrace the dark side (even more), but Deb will bring out his ~goodness~ at the last moment.
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suztan posted:The "Dr. Brainlady is secretly a coldblooded psychopath just like Dexter!!!" plotline is so dumb and obvious, even for Dexter, a series whose bread and butter is being dumb and obvious. It almost makes me feel like they're setting the audience up to be as skeptical of her as Dexter is only to have the Real Villain turn out to be someone completely different and Much Eviler than Dr. "Unorthodox Experiments" Brainlady. The real villain this season is Dexter. At least, if you're the actual series protagonist, Debra Morgan.
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Guys, I think Brother Sam may have gone off the deep end  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/jul/08/mos-def-force-fed-guantanamo-bay-video The Guardian posted:As Ramadan begins, more than 100 hunger-strikers in Guantánamo Bay continue their protest. More than 40 of them are being force-fed. A leaked document sets out the military instructions, or standard operating procedure, for force-feeding detainees. In this four-minute film made by Human Rights organisation Reprieve and Bafta award-winning director Asif Kapadia, US actor and rapper Yasiin Bey (formerly known as Mos Def), experiences the procedure
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Jul 9, 2013 00:01
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The way Not-villain-totally-villain lady flings open the slim dvd case and throws it into her Macbook was ridiculous to me for some reason.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Guys, I think Brother Sam may have gone off the deep end Mos Def is a Muslim and he's exposing abuses of Muslims at Guantanamo. I don't see anything wrong with that. He is a 9/11 truther though, so you can hold that against him.
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Don't discuss Politics in a Dexter thread we'll all end up on FBI watchli-gently caress too late. Deb sure has a thing for coconut shavings. Junkfist fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jul 9, 2013 |
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dr. vogel and harry banged and made brian
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Paradox Personified posted:Don't mind if I do! I know she might not be "traditionally pretty", but I find her to be loving ravishing. And I generally am not into thin girls.
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