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Man, you can get some stupidly high amounts of culture output if you focus on that. I was up to above 1600 per turn in my game during a Golden Age/World Fair combo. Managed to fill Tradition/Aesthetics/Exploration trees completely, and had around 10 tenets in Freedom. And I was still in the process of gathering more relics, and hadn't gotten either Cristo Redentor or Sydney Opera house yet. It looks like the Writer Political Treatise ability is similar to the Scientist Discover Tech, in that it give you an amount of culture based on the last 8(?) turns, so you can probably exploit that with the GA/World Fair combo. I used one earlier, when it gave me approximately enough for a policy, but I think you could probably get enough for around 2 policies if you time it right.
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Muscle Tracer posted:You're right, I forgot that Civ is a D&D game, and is full of elemental sorcery. You're thinking about it too hard/wrong. What did the Terracotta Army represent, in reality, but the immense size and professionalism of the Qin army, and the resources the first Emperor could marshal? Recreating it is basically saying "my army is huge and devastating for its time period." It's the same reason that building the Pyramids at Giza gives you two extra workers and speed to improvements; it represents the huge labor and organization necessary to create such monuments. Also you're thinking about it too hard.
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Man are the Shoshone good. Like, really, really good. You are a land-grabbing, culture, tech, and religion-amassing rear end in a top hat for like the first 100 turns.
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Red Crown posted:Am I to understand that if I own G&K and I buy the Gold Edition Upgrade, I save 10 bux on the new Xpac and get the DLC? If so, that is a fantastic deal. "Gold Edition" for Civ 5 means "Vanilla plus Gods and Kings plus all DLC released thus far". It doesn't include Brave New World.
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The Congress is also really fun to play with in the later game, but I wish the turns between sessions was lower. 30 turns is a long time to just vote on a couple of proposals. I did find it amusing that my First Congress of Lisbon was entirely useless, as it managed to pass both Arts Funding and Science Funding at the same time, negating each other entirely. I managed to repeal the Science Funding decree though. It also remains relatively easy to hold on to the Congress once you get it, I think, as long as you hold a decent number of CS allies. There was only one era change vote for new host in my game, and everyone just voted for themselves. You get more votes as current host, so its easy to just keep it. And since its a special session, I don't think you can bribe people to vote for you or against someone else like normal.
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I'm finding it really difficult to start a game in a temperate grassland region, every time I start the game I'm dropped in the middle of a jungle or a desert, what the hell is going on? I've tried setting the world temperature to both temperate and cool, yet in both cases the game keeps putting me in the tropics, I've restarted the game at least two dozen times at this point.
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Reveilled posted:I'm using a different fix I found on the CivFanatics forums. It required me to actually edit the mapscript, but what it does is find the "wettest" column of the map and shift the seam there. I'm not sure if that's what the fix you posted does, but if anyone wants the full mapscript, I stuck it on pastebin. Nice! I'll give that a shot. Here's my unmodified script with just the config variables tweaked, if anyone wants to try that too: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5264731/PerfectWorld3.lua
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Ervin K posted:I'm finding it really difficult to start a game in a temperate grassland region, every time I start the game I'm dropped in the middle of a jungle or a desert, what the hell is going on? I've tried setting the world temperature to both temperate and cool, yet in both cases the game keeps putting me in the tropics, I've restarted the game at least two dozen times at this point. What Civ are you playing as? You probably have a start bias towards Jungle, so it finds whatever patch of jungle exists and puts you there. Some civs have a bias for grassland (India I know does for sure).
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Ervin K posted:I'm finding it really difficult to start a game in a temperate grassland region, every time I start the game I'm dropped in the middle of a jungle or a desert, what the hell is going on? I've tried setting the world temperature to both temperate and cool, yet in both cases the game keeps putting me in the tropics, I've restarted the game at least two dozen times at this point. There's a setting (Historical bias?) that makes Civs start in terrain appropriate for where they were centrally located historically (i.e. egypt on a river in the desert, russia in an area of plains near the border of the tundra, native american tribes in heavy woodland/jungle, etc.) So turn that off. It's probably causing what you're seeing.
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fspades posted:This is with Hotels. But yeah, it sounds like I should stop putting more great works and just spend them on GAs and tourism bombs. I was playing on emperor as Poland and got 800 tourism after doing the most for the world games and slowly built up to 700 again after that went away. You're doing something majorly wrong if you've only only got 140 tourism. I also only had a 3 city empire.
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Is it worth getting back into Civ 5 with the latest expansion? I poopsocked the hell out of this game after launch but quit playing due to frustration over how broken it was.
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Monohydrate posted:Is it worth getting back into Civ 5 with the latest expansion? I poopsocked the hell out of this game after launch but quit playing due to frustration over how broken it was. Yes. It is a far more fleshed out game than it used to be.
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Jul 10, 2013 01:29
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Monohydrate posted:Is it worth getting back into Civ 5 with the latest expansion? I poopsocked the hell out of this game after launch but quit playing due to frustration over how broken it was. It's almost an entirely different game at this point. Most if not all of the technical problems have been fixed, and the game is engaging from beginning to end. Yes, there are still a few irks and quirks left but nothing too major. What were some of your biggest complaints with the launch version of the game?
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Triskelli posted:It's almost an entirely different game at this point. Most if not all of the technical problems have been fixed, and the game is engaging from beginning to end. Yes, there are still a few irks and quirks left but nothing too major. What were some of your biggest complaints with the launch version of the game? Awful AI and the inevitable expansion issues.
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Monohydrate posted:Awful AI and the inevitable expansion issues. The AI got a lot better in G&K and they've been nerfing the poo poo out of ICS for ages.
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The AI is better than at launch. Still exploitable and makes the occasional boneheaded move, but it's not completely broken any more.
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I'm still not having any luck getting Steam to go online while I'm connected to a VPN. Any of you folks with VPN experience know what's up and how to fix it?
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Muscle Tracer posted:You're right, I forgot that Civ is a D&D game, and is full of elemental sorcery.
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I forgot how to play Civ and all the guides are out of date now. 
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Assyria is pretty hilarious. I've gotten like eight techs off of Brazil because he keeps settling cities near me, so I just roll in, eat them, get the tech, and then either burn the city or sell it to an AI pal.
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Monohydrate posted:Awful AI and the inevitable expansion issues. Plus, in BNW there's a science penalty per city, so if a computer starts making GBS threads cities on frozen islands they won't be researching many techs Unless you're referring to diplomacy with the other civs, in which case yes, the computer is still inclined to hate your guts for no good reason.
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Triskelli posted:Plus, in BNW there's a science penalty per city, so if a computer starts making GBS threads cities on frozen islands they won't be researching many techs I can live with a backstabbing AI. It was the more hilariously broken things like being unable to assail your cities that made the game horribly boring. ICS made the game a slog, too. If it's been nerfed, I may just dive right back in.
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Monohydrate posted:I can live with a backstabbing AI. It was the more hilariously broken things like being unable to assail your cities that made the game horribly boring. ICS now is building lots of decent cities as opposed to launch when you built a grid of cities exactly 2 tiles apart because a tile with a city on it was better than one without.
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I like how a lot of people are sharing experiences with all the different new civs. It seems the majority are raving about the Shoshone and Poland, but not a lot of people are talking about playing as Venice. I'll definitely try them next game. My current and first game as Morocco is on hold right now as I'm at work, but I made it to the end of the first World Congress. I'm in second place point-wise, but everyone else seems to be ahead of me technologically. I started near Venice and they've bought three city-states near me; definitely a force to be reckoned with. The Shoshone are running away with the game though--for me they're like Hiawatha mk. II.
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jivjov posted:The AI is better than at launch. Still exploitable and makes the occasional boneheaded move, but it's not completely broken any more. One thing I noticed in this expansion is that even at lower levels they ask for GPT a lot more in exchange for resources.
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Started my first game as Morocco, and dropped it down to Emporer to get used to things. Managed to get desert folklore and I'm going to beeline for Petra. Since I'll effectively be in easy mode if all works out, I decided to do the unthinkable: Piety tree. Wish me luck.
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Captain Fargle posted:I'm still not having any luck getting Steam to go online while I'm connected to a VPN. Any of you folks with VPN experience know what's up and how to fix it? You're otherwise getting a good internet connection? I didn't have any trouble except for occasionally getting disconnected from my VPN (Which I think is what caused the downloading issues I described earlier in the thread), which I think was a problem on their side, so I'm not sure what issue you could be having. If your caravan gets plundered by barbarians in another civ's territory you should have the option to demand they pay for a new one. 
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Monohydrate posted:I think you guys sold me. Hey, just a heads up: There's "Brave New World", "Gods and Kings", "Civilization 5 Gold Edition" and "Civilization 5 Gold Upgrade". If you just want the new mechanics, buy Brave New World right now. You'll be missing out on some DLC like scenarios, Civs, and wonders but you get all the mechanics including what was introduced in GnK. If you want the full experience, get the Gold Edition Upgrade when the Steam Summer Sale hits. You should be able to nab GnK and all available DLC except BNW to date for like $5. Triskelli fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Jul 10, 2013 |
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:I like how a lot of people are sharing experiences with all the different new civs. It seems the majority are raving about the Shoshone and Poland, but not a lot of people are talking about playing as Venice. I'll definitely try them next game. I honestly don't see how any multiplayer game could be balanced if the Shoshone got put on a big continent with a lot of room. I gobbled up at least 9 or 10 goodie huts on a continents plus map. I had a pantheon, my first culture ability, and a new technology before turn 15. That's just nuts. Add in how much land they take when they settle and how that area tends to grab resources as well, and I see a lot of people teaming up to kill a Shoshone player off early.
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Triskelli posted:Hey, just a heads up: There's "Brave New World", "Gods and Kings", "Civilization 5 Gold Edition" and "Civilization 5 Gold Upgrade". If you just want the new mechanics, buy Brave New World right now. You'll be missing out on some DLC like scenarios, Civs, and wonders but you get all the mechanics including what was introduced in GnK. If you want the full experience, get the Gold Edition Upgrade when the Steam Summer Sale hits. You should be able to nab GnK and all available DLC except BNW to date for like $5. Just checked my Steam account, I must have picked up the DLC when it was on holiday sale - looks like I've got everything but the latest!
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So apparently you can get a goddamn great prophet from ruins. Shoshone is the best.
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thehumandignity posted:You're otherwise getting a good internet connection? I didn't have any trouble except for occasionally getting disconnected from my VPN (Which I think is what caused the downloading issues I described earlier in the thread), which I think was a problem on their side, so I'm not sure what issue you could be having. Everything else seems to work. I can browse the web just fine and IP lookup sites all think I'm Fort Lauderdale Florida when I'm connected to it so I don't know what's happening. Steam tries to go online, fails and runs in offline mode instead. I don't get it.
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sarmhan posted:Hotels and Airports are the big game changer, followed by The Internet - also, you can start using great musicians as tourism bombs. What do hotels do? I'm not that far yet.
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DrManiac posted:So apparently you can get a goddamn great prophet from ruins. Shoshone is the best. That option is 'just' 60 faith but yeah, Shoshone are nuts.
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Raserys posted:Goddamn, the Pathfinders are amazing anti-barbarian tanks. Especially after Survivalism I dont get why they can even build warriors, Pathfinders have the same combat strength
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Skyl3lazer posted:I dont get why they can even build warriors, Pathfinders have the same combat strength Upgrades?
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Tulip posted:Upgrades? Technically yes but in practice having 2 comp bowmen before turn 50 is pretty nuts.
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