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Marketing New Brain posted:You get afraid status just by dwarfing their military, although it depends on the Civ. South Americans are apparently scaredy cats because I've had both Maya and Inca regard me that way frequently. England is another one, and I've had Monty act that way as well, but never Alex, Bismark or Harold. It's worth noting that if you get Afraid from someone in the very early game, it indicates their starting Warrior has been killed. If their capital is nearby and you happen to have two or three Archers, it's worth taking them out.
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Wasco Jr. posted:Hey I'm new to PC gaming and just bought the Cradle of Civilization Bundle on steam but the scenarios are not showing up in DLC or scenarios. Anyone have any idea why? No idea have you tried verifying the files via steam?
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Jul 10, 2013 23:34
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Man, Shaka with a straight early-game Honor tree filled out is murder. Particularly if you make sure to build his unique barracks to give all the Buffalo promotions to his soldiers.
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Jul 10, 2013 23:38
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Missed he Special Olympics/Games what it is called that gives +100% tourism for 20 turns. gently caress YOU PUPPET CITY WHO DECIDED TO NOT WORK TOWARD IT!!!! I "like" venice but am really starting to dislike the whole "have to puppet" thing for my extra cities. Seriously if for one more turn that puppet city worked on it I would have won it and now can't win via tourism because it will take too drat long even with hotels. Also anyone noticing Research takes a lot longer or is it just because I am rocking 2 fully upgraded cities? I still see some civs a touch spammy with getting cities out but now it makes more sense. They are basically building new settlers as soon as they get a new city. Thats why they are all low low cities but they are rocking 5-6 of them. Interesting not sure if would try that but I have gotten out something like 4 settlers by turn 100
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Jul 10, 2013 23:57
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Speedball posted:Man, Shaka with a straight early-game Honor tree filled out is murder. Particularly if you make sure to build his unique barracks to give all the Buffalo promotions to his soldiers. Buffalo promotions?  Suddenly I am intrigued
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Jul 11, 2013 00:04
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Cultural city states loan you art now as allies.  Also, I think science is actually how you win culture victories now. The National Visitor Center is probably the most important tourism wonder and it's almost at the end of the tech tree. VVV Yeah it's good. You can access it immediately, every policy is good and the reformation beliefs are game changing. I'm pretty sure Justinian can have a 8 belief religion now with Piety, which is 
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Jul 11, 2013 00:05
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Is piety good now?
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Jul 11, 2013 00:11
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Man, my Morocco game isn't even FAIR. I'm pumping out so much Gold, Production, Research, Tourism, and Culture, I could win any which way I want. A Domination or Cultural victory would probably take the longest, though I've already gotten Dido to wear my blue jeans just from trading, and I'm still a ways away from the top of the tech tree or most of the SS modules. I have so much cash that I've bought out almost every City-State in the world, and have more than enough to win the World Leader election in five turns. Trade routes and kasbahs own bones. e: I think the AI really likes the new Diplomat spy option, because my Special Agent hasn't had to bust any heads in at least a hundred turns, when I've got like 4 cities with 5-star potential, whereas in my last G&K game I was killing fools and having my allies coup'd every other turn. Protagorean fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jul 11, 2013 |
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Jul 11, 2013 00:13
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WYA posted:Is piety good now? It's solid, especially if you pick up some of the wonders that let you buy great people with faith later in the game (or faith warriors early). You definitely have to dedicate yourself to going for it early on though, you need to lay the seeds, because it's hard to play catch up by the mid game. I'm not sure how viable it is in comparison to other early/midgame tactics yet, I haven't really tried a religious appropriate civ. Plus buying Great Prophets in the 1900s is oddly funny.
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Jul 11, 2013 00:19
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Gotta say, shoshone pathfinders are my new favourite unit by far. Pump out two of them with honor in the early game, upgrade them both to composite bowmen and go to town on nearby civs, then steal all their money for more settlers when they sue for peace!
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Jul 11, 2013 00:24
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Having fun with Indonesia on an archipelago map, although the AI's lack of luxuries to trade has hampered my efforts to become King of Spice Mountain. I was planning to do a conquest victory, but I forgot how difficult amphibious invasions are to pull off until the late game.
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Jul 11, 2013 00:30
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splifyphus posted:Yeah, I don't think the worker script has ever been told that there's unique improvements in the game now. Pretty sure there weren't any in vanilla. They do it with Moas just fine.
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Jul 11, 2013 00:38
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James The 1st posted:I think Maria is just meant to be completely schizo. I bought some land next to her territory, and she asked me to stop and I said buzz off. Some turns later, she came telling me how I lied about not buying land. To be fair, in real life Maria I was genuinely batshit insane as well. I can understand why the Portugese fans weren't thrilled with Firaxis picking her, but it seems it was definitely deliberate.
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Jul 11, 2013 00:44
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Is the Marathon setting harsh on the AI somehow? I'm absolutely decimating them on a setting that gave me a fair fight on normal speed.
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Jul 11, 2013 00:45
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Wasco Jr. posted:Hey I'm new to PC gaming and just bought the Cradle of Civilization Bundle on steam but the scenarios are not showing up in DLC or scenarios. Anyone have any idea why? The cradle packs aren't scenarios but custom maps, they should be in your map list when creating a new game.
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Jul 11, 2013 00:49
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Dongattack posted:Is the Marathon setting harsh on the AI somehow? I'm absolutely decimating them on a setting that gave me a fair fight on normal speed. The AI's main ways of competing with human tactical minds (tech disparity, building a shitstorm of units) are hamstrung on Marathon, so it's generally easier for human players who can take advantage of retreating and unit promotions.
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Jul 11, 2013 01:01
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Perhaps I'm dumb, but the gold given to the other civ on trade routes, that's not coming from my pocket, right? It's just a benefit for them, or am I actually providing the gold they receive?
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Jul 11, 2013 01:17
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So I'm a person that plays with ruins off 90 percent of the time, but decided to try Pocatello, and jesus, feels like save scumming. I like his design a lot however, he's like a well made Spain.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Perhaps I'm dumb, but the gold given to the other civ on trade routes, that's not coming from my pocket, right? It's just a benefit for them, or am I actually providing the gold they receive? Any and all resources a trade route create are created from thin air. It's just that you're trading, so the merchants at the other end are still making a good deal, they're just not making bank like the merchants at your end.
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Jul 11, 2013 01:18
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It seems that you can suggest a slew of things people love for the UN, and then suggest one thing they don't like and suddenly the denouncements start piling in. I wonder how large the diplo penality is for suggesting things people don't like? It seems there is also a diplo penalty for heavily voting nay for something a civ proposed to the UN that ultimately fails to pass (and it seems to last a long time too).
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Jul 11, 2013 01:19
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I'm really having fun here. But goddam I feel a bit over whelmed! I'm going for a culture victory so I'm doing the best I can. I'm Pocatello on an archipelago map (always play random) and was friends with everyone. Then Boudicca backstabs me and has a MASSIVE army and takes one of my cities! I've never EVER had that happen to me before. Backstabbed, sure, but an actual decent assault force? What the hell? 3 swordsmen, 3 horsemen, 2 composite bows, and 3 catapults. Knocked me right the gently caress out, and I didn't have any units over there because we were friends. Now we'll see how well the AI defends, because I'm taking my city back and her holy city. They will love me and my tourism. Or they will die.
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Jul 11, 2013 01:19
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Alkydere posted:Any and all resources a trade route create are created from thin air. It's just that you're trading, so the merchants at the other end are still making a good deal, they're just not making bank like the merchants at your end. That's what I figured. Thanks!
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Jul 11, 2013 01:26
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As Assyria, the day you have to upgrade your Siege Towers is the saddest day. Trebuchets are terrible, Cannons are only okay, and the entire process of slowly moving siege into range/losing half your health before you can fire is the absolute worst part of the game and made me never want to conquer prior to Arty.
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Jul 11, 2013 01:50
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This completely dropped off my radar for some reason, and I load up Steam again and see stuff going on Civ V only to find out it's the expansion releasing. Is there a good write-up somewhere with details on what's changed? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jul 11, 2013 01:57
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So I was going to post a save for people to play in the steam group, but ran into a snag in that I couldn't seem to post images in the comment form or discussion thread. So instead I just made a thread in LP. Let's All Play Civilization 5: Brave New World. Join the Orgy Porgy! First game is as Brazil. It'll only work if people contribute!
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Jul 11, 2013 01:59
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nessin posted:This completely dropped off my radar for some reason, and I load up Steam again and see stuff going on Civ V only to find out it's the expansion releasing. Is there a good write-up somewhere with details on what's changed? How about the loving OP?
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Dongattack posted:Is the Marathon setting harsh on the AI somehow? I'm absolutely decimating them on a setting that gave me a fair fight on normal speed. Yeah, the longer the setting the worse the AI is at the game. Military units have far longer to move around and level up a lot more, which allows the player to build up a really formidable advantage. Going up a speed is the equivalent of going down a difficulty, so on Marathon you want to really crank it up if you want a challenge. Just passed a world religion. Out with the old superstitious mumbo jumbo, in with dat kush. Late game it's still necessary to F10 between turns. Sweden has a fleet of 28 aircraft that he keeps moving around the Shoshone's cities, and if one of my boats catches LOS the turn time goes up to like 2 minutes.
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Kanthulhu posted:How good are the siege towers? Amazing. In my current King game on BNW, I conquered all 4 cities of America using a 5 Siege Tower Rush. I didn't have a single regular attack unit and still conquered his civilization. Towers can't attack units so I was killing units by taking their cities, evacuating them, luring them into retaking cities, then taking them back, killing the unit they had garrisoned in it. After defeating America without losses, I added on 3 Swordsman and conquered half of the Mongols including their Capital. Total losses for eliminating a civ and forever crippling another: 1 Tower. Verviticus posted:Do siege towers increase defence against city attacks at all? They start with Cover and you can start them at Cover II if you have a barracks. In the case of my anti-America rush, none of his cities could do more than 15 damage to my towers. SickZip fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Jul 11, 2013 |
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God drat. This game is more intense and I was a bit thrown as to how to approach it but I was definitely hosed by my starting location. Within the bounds of my empire and the two nearest city states to me there is one source of horses, but 0 iron and 0 coal. Denmark was just to the south of me and was plotting against me the whole game but didn't declare until I was just about to hit Modern Era. I had a tiny military and had left much of the bottom tech tree to the wayside in favour of gunning the top so he invaded me with ski infantry and cannons vs pikemen and crossbows with a few Gatling guns. He also had far more units in total. I don't know if I'll be able to win the game but I'll be pleased if I can at least lose with dignity, with Alexander being elected leader of the world or something. I've got 10 turns left until I can get the freedom benefit that gives 6 free foreign legions. If I get that I'm probably good. E: also on the other continent Attila wiped out Pachacuti and Washington before I met them, I rarely see that happen. Jump King fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Jul 11, 2013 |
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I always feel like my units are really weak in combat, and I'm starting to think it is because I am not leveling them properly. Is there like a specific upgrade path I should follow to make my soldiers able to survive one on one fights against equal tech units?
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Jul 11, 2013 02:25
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So, if the World Games/World's Fair are going on, can you set your puppets to contribute production or only your own cities? I've got a really good Venice game going and I need to know if I should block those resolutions or not.
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SickZip posted:Amazing. In my current King game on BNW, I conquered all 4 cities of America using a 5 Siege Tower Rush. I didn't have a single regular attack unit and still conquered his civilization. Towers can't attack units so I was killing units by taking their cities, evacuating them, luring them into retaking cities, then taking them back, killing the unit they had garrisoned in it. After defeating America without losses, I added on 3 Swordsman and conquered half of the Mongols including their Capital. That does sound amazing. They replace the catapult? I really love me some ancient civilizations, I think Babylon is probably my favourite overall, but when I saw the siege tower unit I was immediately turned off. My perceptions were coloured by dozens of hours of memories of doing the death march up siege tower stairs in M&B:WB.
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thehumandignity posted:That does sound amazing. They replace the catapult? I really love me some ancient civilizations, I think Babylon is probably my favourite overall, but when I saw the siege tower unit I was immediately turned off. My perceptions were coloured by dozens of hours of memories of doing the death march up siege tower stairs in M&B:WB. Man, what are you talking about? The slaughter in siege chokepoints was the best part of M&B.
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Ok what the gently caress is up with ideology pressure. I have every culture building, they all have paintings and poo poo, but my people are getting a -46 unhappy penalty because 'freedom' has more civs than 'autocracy' does. Is there any way to make my guys not give a poo poo about the other civ's ideology? Even worse, when I made a branch save to try to see if switching would be fine, I'm down to -120 happiness because the autocracy happy bonuses were the only thing keeping me near 0.
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Sieges in that game just make me tired.Skyl3lazer posted:Ok what the gently caress is up with ideology pressure. I have every culture building, they all have paintings and poo poo, but my people are getting a -46 unhappy penalty because 'freedom' has more civs than 'autocracy' does. Is there any way to make my guys not give a poo poo about the other civ's ideology? Even worse, when I made a branch save to try to see if switching would be fine, I'm down to -120 happiness because the autocracy happy bonuses were the only thing keeping me near 0. I haven't actually gotten this far in a game yet but I'm pretty sure the solution to this problem is to reduce the number of civilizations using the freedom ideology. TacticalUrbanHomo fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Jul 11, 2013 |
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Jul 11, 2013 02:34
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I really like running into Pocatello, he's so chill and relaxed 
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Okimin posted:I always feel like my units are really weak in combat, and I'm starting to think it is because I am not leveling them properly. Is there like a specific upgrade path I should follow to make my soldiers able to survive one on one fights against equal tech units? I don't know, I find that choosing the right terrain to fight in makes a much bigger difference (in the early game anyway). For like 90% of my units I get the upgrade that makes them better at fighting in rough terrain, then fighting in open terrain and then repeat.
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I just had a loving evil idea. What if, as Venice, you used your Merchants of Venice to buy a city state... and then sold it to a civ you want to make friends with? I'm pretty sure a city is enough to empty ANYONE's treasury/income and have them still think they got the better bargain. Plus it would be a great way to dick over anyone trying to go Diplomacy AND probably make more gold than using the Great Merchant's Trade Mission ability.
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