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New "soft sour" from HA/NB. What is that supposed to mean? That it's only a little sour?
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Jul 12, 2013 17:31
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Phisty posted:Hello Beergoons. I've spent the last year really getting into beer for the first time and have discovered I'm huge into IPAs/DIPAs or anything thats really hoppy. I also really like wheat beers. I had this beer from Beau's called Wag the Wolf which was really hoppy and "wheaty" tasting simultaneously and I loved it. Unfortunately its a seasonal beer and its gone. I want to find more beers like it but they described it as a hopfenweisse and apparently thats not a real thing? Does anyone have any suggestions for beers or beer styles that I should be looking out for if I want something similar tasting? Deschutes Chainbreaker may be similar to what you're looking for. It tastes like a hoppy witbier to me. Super refreshing. danbanana posted:New "soft sour" from HA/NB. If that image is the actual label then I don't even care what the beer tastes like. That is some awesome golden-age of sci-fi insanity. I want one to keep on the bookshelf in my office. Absolutely killer label. deedee megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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Jul 12, 2013 17:39
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I'm curious to know what you folks think is the best method to determine price when it comes to trading rare limited release beers. I've been seeing a lot of dark lord for heady topper trades and people seem to balk at trading 10 cans of heady for a bottle of dark lord. Retail on heady is $3 a can and dark lord sold for $15 a bottle. $4$ makes sense for shelf beer but how do you treat limited releases? Most people seem to base their $4$ valuations on retail price rather than market value which makes very little sense to me. I get that it is kinda douchey to ask for 3x what you paid but something close to what you'd have to pay to buy one seems reasonable.
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Jul 12, 2013 17:40
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danbanana posted:New "soft sour" from HA/NB. I'm guessing they did a short sour mash to get a bit of tartness into the finished product.
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Jul 12, 2013 17:40
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wattershed posted:To their total credit, Boulevard's been awesome about distributing the whole enchilada to us, and in easily-obtainable quantities too. They've really entered the market in a strong way. We only get Smokestack series stuff though. We do get BCBS sort of. Kegs have even been showing up recently and we just started now to get the regular distribution stuff. The interview with Larry Bell sort of indicated he wasn't planning to enter new territories with half-rear end expansions though. I think NY is the first market they've entered in like a few years and he said Southern California is the next target after that, but they aren't moving into NY until like Fall, so I don't think we'll see Bell's in San Diego for quite a while.
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Jul 12, 2013 17:43
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HatfulOfHollow posted:If that image is the actual label then I don't even care what the beer tastes like. That is some awesome golden-age of sci-fi insanity. I want one to keep on the bookshelf in my office. Absolutely killer label. Half-Acre has some amazing bottle art. I give you... BIG HUGS. 2011:  2012:  LeafHouse posted:I'm curious to know what you folks think is the best method to determine price when it comes to trading rare limited release beers. I've been seeing a lot of dark lord for heady topper trades and people seem to balk at trading 10 cans of heady for a bottle of dark lord. Retail on heady is $3 a can and dark lord sold for $15 a bottle. $4$ makes sense for shelf beer but how do you treat limited releases? Most people seem to base their $4$ valuations on retail price rather than market value which makes very little sense to me. I get that it is kinda douchey to ask for 3x what you paid but something close to what you'd have to pay to buy one seems reasonable. Free market. People will give up what they're willing to give up.
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Jul 12, 2013 17:49
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cryme posted:I'm guessing they did a short sour mash to get a bit of tartness into the finished product. Yeah it was probably a sour mash with only a portion of the grains (hence, partial), and then added the runnings to the boil. Their exact words were, "partial kettle souring." You can only get a limited amount of sourness out of Lacto that way, which is why they might be calling it a soft sour. I'd expect it to have a mild tartness. And I also want some, hopefully they still have some left over in mid-August.
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Jul 12, 2013 17:54
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danbanana posted:Half-Acre has some amazing bottle art. I give you... BIG HUGS. I've had a lot of Half-Acre beer but usually on draft. The only one I've had out of a can is daisy cutter, which is a good beer, but just a normal can. However, I just went to their website and looked at the rest of their labels...and wow! So much goodness. Akari Shogun, Double Daisy Cutter, Galactic Double Daisy Cutter, Quakerbridge, Vallejo... I never realized how awesome the labels are. There's something to be said for beer that's eye catching on the shelf. I'd have bought any of those just because they look great. edit - It should be noted that I keep bottles that I think look neat. My kitchen cabinets are currently decorated with Pretty Things Jack D'Or, DFH My Antonia, Cantillon Classic Gueuze, and Growlers from Tired Hands, Sixpoint, Earth, Victory, and Evolution. As well as a Vieux Carre absinthe and a bunch of Scotch (Lagavulin 16, Macallan 18, Bruichladdich 12, Caol-Ila 14, Glenfiddich 21 Gran Reserva). I like interesting labels or bottles. deedee megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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Jul 12, 2013 18:04
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LeafHouse posted:I'm curious to know what you folks think is the best method to determine price when it comes to trading rare limited release beers. I've been seeing a lot of dark lord for heady topper trades and people seem to balk at trading 10 cans of heady for a bottle of dark lord. Retail on heady is $3 a can and dark lord sold for $15 a bottle. $4$ makes sense for shelf beer but how do you treat limited releases? Most people seem to base their $4$ valuations on retail price rather than market value which makes very little sense to me. I get that it is kinda douchey to ask for 3x what you paid but something close to what you'd have to pay to buy one seems reasonable. Depends on the beer. Personally, I wouldn't trade for any Dark Lord unless it were barrel aged or '08, but that's me. Personally I'd just tell people to gently caress off if they don't like the trade. Going over $4$ when you're talking about trading shelf (yes, even Heady) for limited is standard practice. There are people who say $4$ is the magical golden rule, but it isn't. When you're talking beers of equal rarity, fine. But factor it in with supply and demand, and suddenly $4$ isn't some magic bullet.
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Jul 12, 2013 18:24
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FreelanceSocialist posted:It's even worse when a bunch of your Untappd friends are women. "SHE TOASTED YOUR CHECK-IN WHO IS SHE DID YOU CHECK IN TOGETHER SOMEWHERE OR SOMETHING WHAT DID YOU CHECK IN TO!?" who the hell are you people dating? danbanana posted:New "soft sour" from HA/NB. I assume it means the usual bullshit-level sour stuff New Belgium likes to deliver...
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Jul 12, 2013 18:42
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LeafHouse posted:I'm curious to know what you folks think is the best method to determine price when it comes to trading rare limited release beers. I've been seeing a lot of dark lord for heady topper trades and people seem to balk at trading 10 cans of heady for a bottle of dark lord. Retail on heady is $3 a can and dark lord sold for $15 a bottle. $4$ makes sense for shelf beer but how do you treat limited releases? Most people seem to base their $4$ valuations on retail price rather than market value which makes very little sense to me. I get that it is kinda douchey to ask for 3x what you paid but something close to what you'd have to pay to buy one seems reasonable. I only trade $4$ and just do so with beer of equal rarity. Trying to judge a beer's value otherwise seems to enter murky water that usually leaves both parties unhappy. Membership costs, ticket prices, bottle counts, distribution, travel distance/time, and vintage could all be considered. I've always happily traded my beer $4$ and never been disappointed with my return. And honestly, I'd take the five cans of Heady over recent DL any day.
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Jul 12, 2013 18:49
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Docjowles posted:The Brewing Network guys jack off about how awesome Moonlight is constantly (as I'm sure you know), but he's clearly a sponsor so it's a little hard to take seriously. I would like to try his stuff sometime, though. I've enjoyed very few meads--commercial or homebrew--but the elusive good mead tends to be really good. Well, if it's good enough for Beevo...  One of my motivations for grabbing this despite being rated fairly middle-of-the-road for the meadery was that I wanted to try it before I start getting really annoyed at the way the slobber all over it on every Sunday Session. Klaus Kinski posted:Are galaxy hops supposed to have this absolutely horrible smell? Galaxy shouldn't smell that way, no. They tend to me noted for fruity (mango) smells and it's generally said that they have less chance of producing nasty flavors when compared to the very similar Citra hop.
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Jul 12, 2013 18:52
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Klaus Kinski posted:Are galaxy hops supposed to have this absolutely horrible smell? If it's footy/cheesy, the most likely culprit is isovaleric acid, which comes from super-old/oxidized hops. I imagine some brewers are so desperate to latch onto hop trends that they'll take questionable supplies and hope that nobody notices. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure aged hops are responsible for the awesome blue cheese character I taste in Cantillon Iris, so it's not all bad.
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Jul 12, 2013 19:04
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Ubik posted:If it's footy/cheesy, the most likely culprit is isovaleric acid, which comes from super-old/oxidized hops. I imagine some brewers are so desperate to latch onto hop trends that they'll take questionable supplies and hope that nobody notices. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure aged hops are responsible for the awesome blue cheese character I taste in Cantillon Iris, so it's not all bad. yeah, nothing wrong with aged hops in a lambic, but the worst beer i've ever had was a saison made with old hops and holy poo poo did it smell like feet (covered with powdered cheez).
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Jul 12, 2013 19:11
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Phisty posted:Hello Beergoons. I've spent the last year really getting into beer for the first time and have discovered I'm huge into IPAs/DIPAs or anything thats really hoppy. I also really like wheat beers. I had this beer from Beau's called Wag the Wolf which was really hoppy and "wheaty" tasting simultaneously and I loved it. Unfortunately its a seasonal beer and its gone. I want to find more beers like it but they described it as a hopfenweisse and apparently thats not a real thing? Does anyone have any suggestions for beers or beer styles that I should be looking out for if I want something similar tasting? Not sure if you get distro of it, but what first pops to mind is Boulevard's 80 Acre Hoppy Wheat. Or Lagunitas Lil Sumpin' Sumpin'.
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Jul 12, 2013 19:13
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Retemnav posted:Not sure if you get distro of it, but what first pops to mind is Boulevard's 80 Acre Hoppy Wheat. Or Lagunitas Lil Sumpin' Sumpin'. pretty sure Phisty is Canadian. don't know much about the beer scene up there, although i think the major metropolitan areas get a decent supply of the larger nearby US craft breweries, but i bet you can find Schneider/Brooklyn Hopfen Weisse, which sounds a little like the beer that was described.
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Jul 12, 2013 19:28
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Cracked open the Rodenbach Grand Cru, this is more what I'm after in a sour! Not as sweet as the Duchesse de Bourgogne with a bit more muskyness to it, it's pretty vinous to my palate too. Properly sour too. Love it!
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Jul 12, 2013 19:40
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Angry Grimace posted:We only get Smokestack series stuff though. Not sure we need anything else from them though 
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Jul 12, 2013 19:57
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Is trading an off-the-shelf beer $4$ for an incredibly limited release really standard? It seems like there should be at least some premium for the value of buying a ticket to the release party and waiting around for 12 hours in the cold vs just swinging by the liquor store on the way home from work. (I'm not in the trading scene, clearly, sorry if this is a dumb question)
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Jul 12, 2013 19:58
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Loonytoad Quack posted:Cracked open the Rodenbach Grand Cru, this is more what I'm after in a sour! Not as sweet as the Duchesse de Bourgogne with a bit more muskyness to it, it's pretty vinous to my palate too. Properly sour too. Love it! The small bottle makes it so adorable. It's fun to see smaller format stuff whenI'm only used to seeing 750s. The price on that Grand Cru is so right, too - I'll pick one up just to make myself have a better day and feel special.
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Jul 12, 2013 20:03
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I'm going to definitely be going to one of the Zwanze Day locations this year. Not sure which one, but probably one somewhat close to OH. I might end up going to KY, because I could see that being a bit more low key than Philadelphia or Chicago.
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Jul 12, 2013 20:18
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I want the Rodenbach in cans that they have in Europe.
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Jul 12, 2013 20:19
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That's even less fair than how they get all those neat diesel cars that we don't 
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Jul 12, 2013 20:38
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^^^^ I have a 190BHP Diesel that is torquey as all gently caress and does 60MPG, vroooooooom! ^^^^ Second bottle of the night was a Stone Ruination but I'm fairly sure it's either off or just hasn't lasted well in the bottle. The best before date is May the something, but the bottle shop have scratched off the year which is a bit loving shady. Best case it's 2 months out of date, worst case 14 months. The smell and flavours I'm getting from it are really weird though, the smell is almost medicinal with pine and a bit of pepper. The taste is also pine, but very much of the car air freshener variety. This is not a very nice beer but I can't believe it can turn this much if it had a May expiry, hence the suggestion it could be 14 months old. Of course it's entirely possible I just don't like it, but generally I love American DIPAs so it seems unlikely on what is such a well-rated beer, no? Loonytoad Quack fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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Jul 12, 2013 20:51
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Loonytoad Quack posted:^^^^ I have a 190BHP Diesel that is torquey as all gently caress and does 60MPG, vroooooooom! ^^^^ I would say don't even bother trying to buy American IPAs in your stores, as I imagine that by the time anything sees a shelf over there it's going to be way out of date. If you want an American style IPA fix, The Kernel has done some really nice ones.
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Jul 12, 2013 20:55
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Loonytoad Quack posted:^^^^ I have a 190BHP Diesel that is torquey as all gently caress and does 60MPG, vroooooooom! ^^^^ I'll trade you a few cases of American IPAs...
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Jul 12, 2013 21:04
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I checked out the Philly Beer wiki but it didn't have much on good Porters/Stouts in the area. I'm going to be living there for a couple years and I wonder if any Philly natives know what Porters I should check out. I just love my dark beers.
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Jul 12, 2013 21:39
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wattershed posted:Not sure we need anything else from them though I liked 80 Acre.
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Jul 12, 2013 21:41
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NotLiketheMermaid posted:I checked out the Philly Beer wiki but it didn't have much on good Porters/Stouts in the area. I'm going to be living there for a couple years and I wonder if any Philly natives know what Porters I should check out. I just love my dark beers. Voodoo's Cowbell imperial milk stout is awesome. It's draft only, though.
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Jul 12, 2013 21:45
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FYI, apparently New Glarus's newest thumbprint Wild Sour is now available in stores.
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Jul 12, 2013 21:57
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NotLiketheMermaid posted:I checked out the Philly Beer wiki but it didn't have much on good Porters/Stouts in the area. I'm going to be living there for a couple years and I wonder if any Philly natives know what Porters I should check out. I just love my dark beers. Philadelphia has great distribution from all over the country so we get a lot of crazy stuff. But, if you're just looking to drink local beers... Voodoo Big Black Voodoo Daddy - In my opinion this is the best non barrel aged stout readily available in PA Yards George Washington Tavern Porter - it's decent, but if you ever see the bourbon barrel aged version go drink it immediately Yards Love Stout - all versions are pretty good Philadelphia Brewing Shackamaximum - some people say it's too sweet. I like it. Sly Fox O'Reilly's - a great dry Irish stout, but draft only Victory Storm King - it's practically everywhere Victory Baltic Thunder - same as above Lancaster Milk Stout - I'm not big on milk stouts but this is my girlfriend's favorite River Horse Oatmeal Milk Stout - again, I'm not big on milk stouts, but this gets favorable reviews Neshaminy Creek Mudbank Milk Stout - I actually like this one. It's a bit different. Especially the coconut version However, if you don't care about local I'd take a Terrapin Wake-N-Bake, Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald, or Evolution Rise Up over pretty much any of the above.
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Jul 12, 2013 22:40
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cryme posted:I want the Rodenbach in cans that they have in Europe. 
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Jul 12, 2013 22:52
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NotLiketheMermaid posted:I checked out the Philly Beer wiki but it didn't have much on good Porters/Stouts in the area. I'm going to be living there for a couple years and I wonder if any Philly natives know what Porters I should check out. I just love my dark beers. good bars have good beers- tell the bartender what you like and see what happens, you've got plenty of time to explore
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Jul 12, 2013 23:00
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funkybottoms posted:pretty sure Phisty is Canadian. don't know much about the beer scene up there, although i think the major metropolitan areas get a decent supply of the larger nearby US craft breweries, but i bet you can find Schneider/Brooklyn Hopfen Weisse, which sounds a little like the beer that was described. Yeah I'm Canadian. It seems that the US are miles ahead of us when it comes to craft beer which is against all the "hurr hurr american beer is weak piss" talk I heard all throughout high school. Things are getting better here especially in Ottawa where I live there are a ton of amazing little breweries opening. I will look into the Schneider/Brooklyn. I was just wondering if theres a specific style of wheat beer? The other ones I've tried have been nice and my go to ones have been Muskoka's Summer Weiss and Unibroue's Blanche de Chambly but I want something with a more aggressive hops/bitter taste on top of the wheat.
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Jul 12, 2013 23:54
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Phisty posted:Yeah I'm Canadian. It seems that the US are miles ahead of us when it comes to craft beer which is against all the "hurr hurr american beer is weak piss" talk I heard all throughout high school. Things are getting better here especially in Ottawa where I live there are a ton of amazing little breweries opening. I will look into the Schneider/Brooklyn. I was just wondering if theres a specific style of wheat beer? The other ones I've tried have been nice and my go to ones have been Muskoka's Summer Weiss and Unibroue's Blanche de Chambly but I want something with a more aggressive hops/bitter taste on top of the wheat. American craft beer is amazing; mass-produced American adjunct lagers generally aren't. German-style wheat beers derive most of their flavor from esters in the yeast, and the fact that use old world/noble hops means they will have much less bitterness than similar styles made with new world ingredients. there isn't really a separate category for hoppy wheat beers (although "American wheat ale" might be a step in that direction), and there aren't even that many US versions i can think of, so i'm guessing you're gonna have to go the trial-and-error route- if you have a shop that lets you make mixed six-packs, start drinkin.'
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Jul 13, 2013 00:31
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Having a Evil Twin Yin because a bar in Greensboro put it on, and good god how is this rated a 99 on rate beer (89 in style). It is a big burnt fusel bomb. Smell reminds me of a coke and cheap whiskey, thin mouth feel, and the aftertaste is like I licked an ashtray. Seriously hard to drink.
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Jul 13, 2013 00:42
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Odell Celestrina Saison just landed on the shelf. It won't stay there long. Odell is purely incapable of making a bad beer. It's a completely different Saison than Tank 7, with a bit more sweetness, but it's every bit as good to drink.
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Jul 13, 2013 01:44
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Captain Shortbus posted:Odell Celestrina Saison just landed on the shelf. It won't stay there long. Odell is purely incapable of making a bad beer. It's a completely different Saison than Tank 7, with a bit more sweetness, but it's every bit as good to drink. It's been on the shelf here for like two months now. I haven't actually cracked one yet though. Also it's like twice the price as tank 7 for any sort of regular drinking.
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Jul 13, 2013 02:34
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You're lucky. My beer guy emailed me when it came in. I'm guessing you're in CO. (KC here). I paid $14 vs $9 for a 750 or $11 for a 4 pack of Tank 7. I've paid a lot more for far worse beers.
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Jul 13, 2013 02:52
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Chicagoons: Get to Haymarket and get the ADHA 483 Experimental Pale. New, unnamed hop. Tastes like Citra crossbred with a loving passion fruit. This is gorgeous. And only Peach Humidor Jai Alai smells better.
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Jul 13, 2013 03:28
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