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LeafyOrb posted:I can sort of see where they are coming from with Red Tails, but only because every white guy in that movie was hardcore KKK racist. By all accounts everyone was actually really supportive and the movie is full of poo poo. Apart from the 332nd's kills not being officially recorded in case they beat white pilots, you mean?
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If you disagree with rlm's opinions that obviously means there's something terribly wrong with them and not that they just aren't the reviewers for you. They seem to stick a bit closer to my opinions of movies than mainline c. discusso, so I stick with them. And really cd can almost be weirdly groupthinky at times, it's different when you just have two people shooting the poo poo about movies. This is kind of an example of that. With scifi debris and rlm, they will recommend movies they didn't like if they think someone else will like it but both cd and games, I am really. really. really tired of this poo poo where if you haven't seen/played something someone likes you have to buy it RIGHT NOW and if you have but didn't like it you have no soul or you're a lovely person or something. LeafyOrb posted:(If they are saying racism doesn't exist period however then gently caress them, hard) You should probably go to the site, it shouldn't be hard to find the half in the bag where they talk about it and decide for yourself if they were saying that or not. Personally I think rlm's criticism is far overblown but ymmv Hemingway To Go! has a new favorite as of 22:15 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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I find babies being dubbed annoying. Especially when they have adult voices, because when I think of a cute baby talking, I think of a middle age man who's a few steps away from a midlife crisis.
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I hate that divorced parents pretty much always get back together because their current boyfriend/girlfriend/fiance, in the course of the movie, suddenly is horrible, or suddenly they aren't in love with them because their ex came back around. Liar Liar did this, and even as a kid it pissed me off. I think it started with The Parent Trap but I'm sure this poo poo predates that too. My mom, who loves romcoms, even points this out. In the show Once Upon A Time, we meet a woman whose fiancee abandoned her to jail, and she later meets up with him, plus their son that she put up for adoption. Instant family because clearly though ten years have passed and he put her in jail, they both Really Love Each Other. Of course, when the guy has a fiance, she has to become a Bad Guy who is either cheating on him or using him because she stands in the way of them being a perfect family! Gag me. Hollywood, remember Despicable Me? Lots of families are like that now, with a single parent, with adopted or foster kids. Mom and Dad plus kids does not equal happy ever after, update your loving definition of family!
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Jul 13, 2013 04:30
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Their last full review I watched was the one for Pain & Gain, which if you follow movies you'll know was a big critical success and elicited a lot of intelligent discussion from people who both loved and hated it.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Gag me. Hollywood, remember Despicable Me? Lots of families are like that now, with a single parent, with adopted or foster kids. Mom and Dad plus kids does not equal happy ever after, update your loving definition of family! Like half the values we get on tv and in cinema nowadays are coming straight from the 50's (or rather, the TV and cinema version of the 50's). It's not because the medium is inherently conservative, but rather because only for the last two generations did we get screenwriters whose primarily ambition is to be screenwriters. Up until that point, writing for the movies (or, even worse, the idiot box) was either a side project for real writers, or a fallback plan for people who didn't succeed at becoming real writers. So they wrote while emulating novels, short stories or (gasp!) real life. Screenwriters who always wanted to be screenwriters, meanwhile, write by emulating what the saw in movies and on tv while they were growing up. They have an entire culture of screenwriting classes and forums that is inspired by basically nothing else. Everything you hear about terrible Hollywood screenwriting practices, Bechdel test and all, can be traced back to that.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Hollywood, remember Despicable Me? Well they remember it as a mistake I suppose, considering Despicable Me 2 is about finding a mother for the children.
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Xander77 posted:Serious talk for a moment? Replace emulate with duplicate.
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Long sex scenes. I'm probably less of a prude than most of my friends, i grew up with hippie parents going to nude beaches and poo poo when i was a kid, i don't have any hangups about sex and sexuality, but gently caress if i don't get annoyed by sex scenes that serve no purpose except being a sex scene. If i want to watch porn i will watch actual porn. Don't bore me with 2 minutes of simulated sex pretty please? I mean by all means show your beautiful actors and actresses naked and getting it on, but i really don't need to see 2-3 minutes of them faking having sex, it just gets silly. Fragmented has a new favorite as of 07:03 on Jul 14, 2013 |
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Jul 14, 2013 06:59
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What are some recent movies with long sex scenes? I can't recall any in a while. My favorite "sex" scene was from Rocknrolla where it lasted like 3 seconds.
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Mu Zeta posted:What are some recent movies with long sex scenes? I can't recall any in a while. My favorite "sex" scene was from Rocknrolla where it lasted like 3 seconds. Watchmen's was pretty long and pointless. It's okay, we get that they're having sex, thank you!
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Jul 14, 2013 07:57
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Cowslips Warren posted:Watchmen's was pretty long and pointless. It's okay, we get that they're having sex, thank you! Do you mean the one in the Owlship? That was the whole point, but Snyder massively cocked it up so nobody realised it was meant to be funny.
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Mu Zeta posted:What are some recent movies with long sex scenes? I can't recall any in a while. My favorite "sex" scene was from Rocknrolla where it lasted like 3 seconds. The Room, but then again it's The Room. Not exactly recent, though.
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Mu Zeta posted:What are some recent movies with long sex scenes? I can't recall any in a while. My favorite "sex" scene was from Rocknrolla where it lasted like 3 seconds. I think that the might be talking about TV some. Doesn't Game of Thrones have at least two sex scenes an episode that don't contribute to the plot?
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Mu Zeta posted:What are some recent movies with long sex scenes? I can't recall any in a while. My favorite "sex" scene was from Rocknrolla where it lasted like 3 seconds. I don't think it counts as recent, but the Matrix Sequel sex scene down in Zion just made me want to die. 10 minutes of the most awkward 1980s-esque 'romantic porn' blurry candle-lit writhing intercut with a neotribal rave.
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Cowslips Warren posted:I hate that divorced parents pretty much always get back together because their current boyfriend/girlfriend/fiance, in the course of the movie, suddenly is horrible, or suddenly they aren't in love with them because their ex came back around. Liar Liar did this, and even as a kid it pissed me off. I think it started with The Parent Trap but I'm sure this poo poo predates that too. No poo poo, the ideal ending for Liar Liar is that Carrey's character after having his huge revelation, moves to loving Boston, to be close to his son and starts up his new practice there. Becoming a good father to his son and not loving up his wife's happiness. Suspension of disbelief was destroyed when we are expected to believe that the wife would choose a cheating, lying, scumbag Jim Carrey over Carey Elwes, who was a great guy in every single aspect. Oh he's kind of a dork, but otherwise an Adonis, I guess I'll stick with the loser because he swears he'll change this time, totally different from the last thousand times he swore he'd change.
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This is one of my many problems with Sleepless in Seattle. We're supposed to dislike Tom Hanks's significant other because she has a somewhat annoying laugh? And Meg Ryan's significant other because...he has allergies? Yes, you're clearly completely incompatible and should abandon your respective romantic partners so you can run off with total strangers. And, of course, the fact that the entire movie is about an emotionally unhinged woman stalking a stranger with whom she becomes obsessed, who lives across the country. That movie made me wildly uncomfortable. Somewhat similarly, Bridesmaids. Kristen Wiig's character is unlikeable from the start -- she's rude and self-destructive, and she repeatedly acts on her jealousy in outrageous, humiliating fashion. She's a goddamn train wreck who is clearly refusing to take care of herself and her own emotional issues, and in doing so, continually hurts the people around her. It would be like if you watched Young Adult (which is fantastic, and honestly a fascinating companion piece to this) and thought that Charlize Theron's character was acting completely rationally. The fact that anyone rooted for Wiig's character, who does the bare minimum toward redeeming herself in any way, is baffling to me. I can't believe the acclaim that this movie received, nor the fact that anyone thought it portrayed female friendships in a progressive or flattering way.
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tvb posted:This is one of my many problems with Sleepless in Seattle. We're supposed to dislike Tom Hanks's significant other because she has a somewhat annoying laugh? And Meg Ryan's significant other because...he has allergies? Yes, you're clearly completely incompatible and should abandon your respective romantic partners so you can run off with total strangers. I was recommended Bridesmaids as 'the girl version of The Hangover!' I have no idea what the gently caress that person was smoking when she said that. For an older movie, how about Wuthering Heights? It hosed my mind to no end to have the daughter Katherine be played by the same actress who was her mom, Kathy. But Kristen Wiig's character reminds me a lot of Kathy: spoiled, selfish, self-centered and self-harming and fucks up a lot of people in the process. But in Heights, she dies before she learns any form of lesson (if Bridesmaids did? Hard to tell.) and everyone, EVERYONE in the movie (and book to be fair) never tells her to stop her poo poo, never tells her to grow up and stop acting like a child when she is denied something. And her daughter is just as spoiled. gently caress, the only person you could barely relate to was Kathy's husband, who got poo poo on daily and never had any real happiness. Go side protagonist?
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tvb posted:This is one of my many problems with Sleepless in Seattle. We're supposed to dislike Tom Hanks's significant other because she has a somewhat annoying laugh? And Meg Ryan's significant other because...he has allergies? Yes, you're clearly completely incompatible and should abandon your respective romantic partners so you can run off with total strangers. That was one of my biggest problems with Bridesmaids, especially since the trailers made it look like an ensemble comedy. As I watched it, I kept wishing they start focusing on Ellie Kemper or Wendi Mclendon Covey's characters, and stop focusing on Wiig's or Maya Rudolph's characters.
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tvb posted:This is one of my many problems with Sleepless in Seattle. We're supposed to dislike Tom Hanks's significant other because she has a somewhat annoying laugh? And Meg Ryan's significant other because...he has allergies? Yes, you're clearly completely incompatible and should abandon your respective romantic partners so you can run off with total strangers. You must be thinking of a different movie, the plot of "Sleepless in Seattle" revolves around Tom Hanks' wife being dead. You may be thinking of, "You've Got Mail".
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Continuing from there: Two characters have had sex, maybe even just once randomly. The woman gets pregnant because safe sex does not exist or never works. The woman carries the child to term because abortions are wrong or are not considered. The two must get together and learn to live with each other for the child's sake. There's probably parts of the cliche combo I'm forgetting. It's not 1950 anymore. I would just once like to see a character get an abortion, and not have it treated like something terrifyingly gross and wrong like in enter the void. I've also seen several amatuer artistic shorts that always depict life as being terrible because you WILL go through that chain events and there's NOTHING you can do, and also it's somehow the woman's fault because ____. gently caress you.
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Jul 14, 2013 18:48
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Do you mean the one in the Owlship? That was the whole point, but Snyder massively cocked it up so nobody realised it was meant to be funny. I just watched that movie again last night, and goddamn, that scene was painful. Not painful in the same sense as the rape scene (  ), but awkward in that it goes on way too long and ends up less a juxtaposition between love and violence and more a reflection of Snyder's hardon for Malin Akerman.
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Yonic Symbolism posted:Continuing from there: Two characters have had sex, maybe even just once randomly. The woman gets pregnant because safe sex does not exist or never works. The woman carries the child to term because abortions are wrong or are not considered. The two must get together and learn to live with each other for the child's sake. There's probably parts of the cliche combo I'm forgetting. It's weird, because abortion was treated as a much more rational and viable solution in movies from the early 1980s. Look at Fast Times at Ridgemont High or Last American Virgin or any number of others and it's presented as just another option. Starting sometime in the 90s, if abortion is even brought up, (most of the time it isn't) it's immediately shot down in some way. In fact, the pregnant woman usually won't consider it at all, and is usually the one to act as if whoever does bring it up is an awful person.
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The sex scene in 300. I remember watching it on television once where it had been cut for time and it was still excruciatingly long. Unrelated, but I watched Oz the Great and Powerful for the first time and was pretty disappointed. It seemed to eventually devolve into a harem-ish setting like in my animus with every relevant hot chick falling over themselves to get with the main protagonist. I was holding out hope that Glinda would remain platonic, and in the end we just let out this huge groan as she goes in for the clincher.  : "And then their relationship is never referenced again."But then my husband pointed out that maybe it was just James Franco being James Franco for the sake of being James Franco.
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hyperhazard posted:I just watched that movie again last night, and goddamn, that scene was painful. Not painful in the same sense as the rape scene ( For me the Owlship scene was funny because that was the moment that most of the parents in the theatre realized why a superhero movie had been rated R. Not sure why the over the top violence or rape scene didn't do it.
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kinmik posted:The sex scene in 300. I remember watching it on television once where it had been cut for time and it was still excruciatingly long. That reminds me of the subplot with the council, and how the queen let's the traitor have sex with her so he can convince the council to send more troops or something like that. She apparently knows she's going to get betrayed but does it anyway because...she loves her husband? The movie made a point of showing how in love they were and it just weakened her character and made her seem stupid at the same time.
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tvb posted:This is one of my many problems with Sleepless in Seattle. We're supposed to dislike Tom Hanks's significant other because she has a somewhat annoying laugh? And Meg Ryan's significant other because...he has allergies? Yes, you're clearly completely incompatible and should abandon your respective romantic partners so you can run off with total strangers. Young Adult just made me really uncomfortable and I didn't like it, but I think that's partially because I had a friend whose actions at the time reminded me far too much of Charlize Theron's character.
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kinmik posted:Unrelated, but I watched Oz the Great and Powerful for the first time and was pretty disappointed. It seemed to eventually devolve into a harem-ish setting like in my animus with every relevant hot chick falling over themselves to get with the main protagonist. I was holding out hope that Glinda would remain platonic, and in the end we just let out this huge groan as she goes in for the clincher. That movie sucked so goddamn hard. Not a single redeeming scene. I simply cannot understand why it got any positive reviews at all. Everything just fell flat. Biggest bomb of 2013 as far as I'm concerned.
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KozmoNaut posted:That movie sucked so goddamn hard. Not a single redeeming scene. I simply cannot understand why it got any positive reviews at all. Everything just fell flat. Biggest bomb of 2013 as far as I'm concerned. I think The Lone Ranger has it beat, at least financially. Both Oz The Great And Powerful and The Lone Ranger had budgets in the ~$215M range, but Oz has at least broken even, while The Lone Ranger is hovering around 70 million box office gross. Welp.
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Sagebrush posted:I think The Lone Ranger has it beat, at least financially. Both Oz The Great And Powerful and The Lone Ranger had budgets in the ~$215M range, but Oz has at least broken even, while The Lone Ranger is hovering around 70 million box office gross. Welp. Which is odd, because The Lone Ranger at least looks sort of decent.
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Razorwired posted:For me the Owlship scene was funny because that was the moment that most of the parents in the theatre realized why a superhero movie had been rated R. Not sure why the over the top violence or rape scene didn't do it. What's great, Watchmen came out like a month before everyone and his dog in the UK started doing cover-versions of Hallelujah. It was a hilarious time.
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Gaunab posted:That reminds me of the subplot with the council, and how the queen let's the traitor have sex with her so he can convince the council to send more troops or something like that. She apparently knows she's going to get betrayed but does it anyway because...she loves her husband? The movie made a point of showing how in love they were and it just weakened her character and made her seem stupid at the same time. She didn't know she was going to be betrayed, she thought by loving him she could get his support in the council. If she knew he was going to gently caress her over, she probably would have just killed him.
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KozmoNaut posted:Which is odd, because The Lone Ranger at least looks sort of decent. Other than the fact that they decided to turn Tonto from a strong, proud and wise native to crazy Johnny Depp wearing stupid makeup acting like an idiot! That's another thing that irritates me in movies is that they'll base it off something that explicitly states the character's race or gender, and they just change it up in the movies for no reason at all. The Silent Hill movie even did this, changing Harry into Rose because apparently nobody would watch a movie about a dude trying to save his daughter or something? It's baffling to me.
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Henchman of Santa posted:You missed the entire point of Bridesmaids. The main character's rude, self-destructive, jealous nature is exactly why she almost loses her best friend. By the end, she learns the error of her ways, rekindles her friendship and finds a guy who actually treats her well. Did you stop watching the movie halfway through or something? She does very little to earn her reprieve. After making a scene at and/or ruining almost every pre-wedding event (and letting her personal issues interfere with her job and relationship), she helps find the missing bride and...is apologized to by both her and Ms. Money-can't-buy-happiness. The only way she rekindles her friendship is by her friend assuming partial responsibility for her mental instability and atrocious behavior. I understand the intended message, but Wiig's character's actions at the end are poor recompense for her behavior throughout the movie, and I don't buy that she really grows -- she just gets what she wants (as far as her relationships go, anyway). What you said is a nice sentiment, but I don't think it's well-realized in the movie at all.
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KozmoNaut posted:Which is odd, because The Lone Ranger at least looks sort of decent. I don't know what anyone else's reasons are, but I have no interest in seeing that movie because it just looks like Johnny Depp being weird again, and I've already seen enough of that. Too much, really.
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I would be looking forward to a Lone Ranger movie if I was over 80 years old
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Yonic Symbolism posted:Continuing from there: Two characters have had sex, maybe even just once randomly. The woman gets pregnant because safe sex does not exist or never works. The woman carries the child to term because abortions are wrong or are not considered. The two must get together and learn to live with each other for the child's sake. There's probably parts of the cliche combo I'm forgetting.
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KozmoNaut posted:Which is odd, because The Lone Ranger at least looks sort of decent. It's racist garbage. I have saved you two and a half hours.
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Celery Face posted:That reminds me of Knocked Up. I just couldn't believe that a non super religious person with a sweet career she needed to focus on, would not get an abortion after getting pregnant from a drunken one night stand with a fat lazy manchild who only cares about pot and porn. I know there wouldn't be a movie if she had an abortion but come on. Movies like this and Juno certainly helped show abortion providers as evil babykilling machines without any empathy. Seriously I wouldn't be surprised if some anti-choice fuckers wrote or produced this poo poo. Oddly enough, of all loving movies, my mom pointed out that the last Twilight movies were actually more pro-choice than anti-choice: even if the pregnancy will kill her, Bella chooses to keep it going on, despite everyone else telling her to not. Of course with all the Mormon undertones, that kinda devalues the lesson. As for Bridesmaids, I kept waiting for something hilarious to happen, and I can't remember a single thing. Everything that looked like it should have been (the dogs as party gifts, wtf was that about, the drug mishaps on the plane, the making GBS threads in the sink in the fancy dress shop) seemed so goddamn over the top I wasn't sure if it was satire or what. Then again I should have known what kind of spoiled selfish bitch the movie would be about during the opening scene where she sneaks away to apply makeup before getting back into bed with the sex-dude so she looks hot when he wakes up. For the Lone Ranger, why the gently caress is Tonto played by a white guy, other than the old trope of 'we don't have any well known native actors' and Depp rakes in the cash?
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Cowslips Warren posted:For the Lone Ranger, why the gently caress is Tonto played by a white guy, other than the old trope of 'we don't have any well known native actors' and Depp rakes in the cash? Didn't you hear? Johnny Depp took the role to give hope to the Native American kids on the reservations and that makes sense becau 
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