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FMguru posted:Last time I was in Vegas I noticed a lot of very nice new civic buildings (libraries, schools, etc) At least in Las Vegas downtown, things have been improving... at least on the surface. The CEO of Zappos, Tony Hsieh, has been making a crazy amount of investments into the area to develop and vitalize it. Kind of a huge deal actually, because it's also causing a lot of gentrification and cultural clashes, which the natives aren't happy with. This is a good read.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe most/all of the Strip, with all the big casinos, is actually outside of Las Vegas' city limits, specifically to avoid city taxes and regulations?
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Leperflesh posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe most/all of the Strip, with all the big casinos, is actually outside of Las Vegas' city limits, specifically to avoid city taxes and regulations? Yes, but just by the nature of sprawl the entire urban area has fully encompassed the strip to the point it has more or less become the more dominate focal point of the city... but doesn't pay taxes.
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Leperflesh posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe most/all of the Strip, with all the big casinos, is actually outside of Las Vegas' city limits, specifically to avoid city taxes and regulations? It's in Paradise, NV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise,_Nevada
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Jul 14, 2013 20:09
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Most tourists never enter Las Vegas Nevada, as everything is in Paradise, from the airport to UNLV. Which means the state, also built UNLV outside of Las Vegas.
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InterceptorV8 posted:It's in Paradise, NV. That article says it's a "census designated place", which is a concentration of population which is only in unincorporated land. Or in other words, Paradise NV is not a city at all. quote:At about 225,000 people, if Paradise were to be an incorporated city it would be either the fourth or fifth largest city in the state, after Las Vegas (585,000), Henderson (260,000), and North Las Vegas (229,000); Reno has a population of about 225,000. Paradise is the most populous CDP in the United States, except for Honolulu which is not separately incorporated from its county government, and officially recognized as a CDP and CCD by the Census Bureau. I suppose that does lovely things when you're trying to use the tourist money to fund services for the actual city of Las Vegas. Do they get money for services from the Clark County general fund? (Looks like the school district is county-wide, so that at least gets funds from the whole population of greater Las Vegas.)
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Leperflesh posted:That article says it's a "census designated place", which is a concentration of population which is only in unincorporated land. Or in other words, Paradise NV is not a city at all. The Clark County FD covers the strip. (This isn't the Nevada thread though)
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Leperflesh posted:That article says it's a "census designated place", which is a concentration of population which is only in unincorporated land. Or in other words, Paradise NV is not a city at all. Yeah, I've mostly lived in "census designated places" so it's not that different to me. Anyways for those driving up I-15, there are major outlet stores (and casinos) in Primm NV. Doesn't matter since the tax rate is tied into the county rates. http://www.sale-tax.com/Nevada It's 8.1% in Clark. Cheapest is 6.850% which is Elko, Elko COUNTY that is.
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withak posted:It is surreal flying into Vegas over residential subdivision that have been graded, had some streets built, then abandoned. I loved how the newest remake of Fright Night with Colin Farrell changed the setting to a foreclosure plagued Vegas subdivision.
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Ponsonby Britt posted:And as a Vegas person, let me say the following: yes, you are correct that this is Harry Reid bringing home the delicious pork. And yes, the main point of this is to bring in hella tourist money from Southern California. But Southern California is also a big tourist destination for us - whenever there's a holiday weekend, people head to LA and San Diego for the beach, or the theme parks, or the concerts and shows that don't come to Las Vegas. Of course Las Vegas would profit more from the connection, but a rail connection would benefit Southern California's economy as well. quote:Unrelated: what opinion do people have of the Los Angeles Times?
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Debate & Discussion › California Megathread: Best State & Las Vegas HSR discussion
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At the start of reading this thread I was thinking how sad it was that I am missing my yearly trip to El Centro. Now I'm feeling like I'm at the part where I'm on my 7th day in the Valley (no not that valley, the Imperial Valley) wondering why I still go and swearing I won't go next year. E: Checked the unemployment rate, 24%! Better than the 29% this time last year! GreenCard78 fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jul 15, 2013 |
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GreenCard78 posted:At the start of reading this thread I was thinking how sad it was that I am missing my yearly trip to El Centro. Now I'm feeling like I'm at the part where I'm on my 7th day in the Valley (no not that valley, the Imperial Valley) wondering why I still go and swearing I won't go next year. If you visit only once a year, why visit in the summer?
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nm posted:If you visit only once a year, why visit in the summer? To get the best the sun has to offer. I used to live there from the beginning of June to the end of August every year growing up (I'm from the East Coast). In my teens, it turned into a week or two trip. I think my 20s will be the death of going there.
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I really hate it when all of the marijuana crime from the Mission District rears its ugly head here in Oakland. 
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enraged_camel posted:At least in Las Vegas downtown, things have been improving... at least on the surface. The CEO of Zappos, Tony Hsieh, has been making a crazy amount of investments into the area to develop and vitalize it. Kind of a huge deal actually, because it's also causing a lot of gentrification and cultural clashes, which the natives aren't happy with. This is a good read. I think one thing a lot of people miss is that Vegas is a young city. It's barely 100 years old, and it's only gotten big in the last 30 years or so. A lot of the social and cultural infrastructure that residents of other big cities take for granted is just now starting to develop - and that stuff obviously doesn't happen in the corporate culture of the Strip, so visitors miss out on it. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, or that Vegas is just "the Strip plus subdivisions". Now, the criticisms about our low taxes and how that screws over the educational system - those are dead on target. I would much rather have a California-style tax system. (Except without the ridiculous property tax cap. Nevada would be completely screwed without property taxes.) *** Re: California: how is global warming going to affect California's water situation? I know that it's going to cause faster snowmelt in the Rockies, which will lead to less water capture from the Colorado (which will screw with LA), but what about the Sierras? I imagine those see more frequent rainfall (on the west side), which would lead to more frequent replenishing of rivers... But there's still going to be a negative effect, right? Are there any plans to deal with that?
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Oxnard was forward thinking enough to create a groundwater reclamation system. The water's drinking quality but it's only intended for agricultural use. I think all the other cities in our county depend on always being able to get water from existing local sources and from LA. We're about an hour northwest of LA and southeast of Santa Barbara.
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Ponsonby Britt posted:Re: California: how is global warming going to affect California's water situation? I know that it's going to cause faster snowmelt in the Rockies, which will lead to less water capture from the Colorado (which will screw with LA), but what about the Sierras? I imagine those see more frequent rainfall (on the west side), which would lead to more frequent replenishing of rivers... But there's still going to be a negative effect, right? Are there any plans to deal with that? The bigger near term problem is the lack of water conservation for places such as Central valley using the irrigation ditch system, using water hungry crops in what is basically a mediterranean type climate or places like LA trying to have perfect green lawns year around. The biggest use of water is agriculture, which takes up 85% of the total water consumption for the state. It's a also a sore point for the old North vs South infighting. This is pretty decent summary of all the issues: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California
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etalian posted:The bigger near term problem is the lack of water conservation for places such as Central valley using the irrigation ditch system, using water hungry crops in what is basically a mediterranean type climate or places like LA trying to have perfect green lawns year around. Yes, but they are going to put more idiotic signs on the I-5 in retaliation!
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At least the signs might help keep drivers from dozing off. They are more useful than an unirrigated patch of desert.
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Ponsonby Britt posted:
While demand related issues are more apparent (that is, if California gets drier, we will have to conserve more), there is an interesting side effect related to sea-level rise. Most of the water for Southern California travels via canals that are at sea level in the Sacramento River delta. As sea level rises, the scale of Tsunami, flood, or earthquake required to destabilize earthen levees decreases. In general global warming will make the other natural disasters in California more dangerous.
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Ponsonby Britt posted:
e: "In general global warming will make the other natural disasters in California more dangerous." This is especially true of the summer grassfire season, which seems to be creeping earlier and earlier.
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withak posted:At least the signs might help keep drivers from dozing off. They are more useful than an unirrigated patch of desert. God, having done that drive a million times and thinking about how boring it is, I now miss it. I-5 is a loving theme park compared to I-80 through Wyoming.
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Chinatown posted:Also, I love Qualcomm Staduim/The Murph but lmao that loving thing is ancient as gently caress. The Chargers will not get a new stadium by referendum unless they win the Super Bowl- ergo, the Chargers will not get a new stadium. Qualcomm is actually a pretty good venue, but woefully outdated compared to anything modern, and the surrounding facilities are pretty laughable. It's old and leaky, too. If you avoid anything political or Chargers related, the UT is a mediocre paper, but still moderately better than any local newscast.
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Well LA Weekly is probably number 1.
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The problem is there are no good California newspapers, so the LA Times just has to do. Maybe the Sacramento Bee for number 2.
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gently caress the San Fran Chronicle for endorsing Fiorina in 2010 
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:gently caress the San Fran Chronicle for endorsing Fiorina in 2010 They did put this together which was classic.
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San Francisco Chronicle LA Times San Jose Mercury SF & the Times are tied, IMO.
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Trabisnikof posted:The problem is there are no good California newspapers, so the LA Times just has to do. Maybe the Sacramento Bee for number 2. That may be why I said it was good: I only have Idaho papers to compare it to.
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The problem is that print journalism in general, and American print journalism in particular, is in a sorry state. California's papers are no exception. So picking the best of a big pool of turds makes you feel dirty. So yeah, sure, the Chron, the Bee, the LA Times, the Merc... whatever, they're alright I guess. For American newspapers. Which are poo poo. (But, what does this say about the worst CA papers, like The San Francisco Examiner (is that still printed, I haven't checked in years)?)
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Leperflesh posted:(But, what does this say about the worst CA papers, like The San Francisco Examiner (is that still printed, I haven't checked in years)?) It is.
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etalian posted:Someone post a CA newspaper tier. The San Diego UT is easily the last and shittiest.
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I'm sad California doesn't really have a Texas Tribune equivalent.
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The best newspaper in the state is the Arcata Eye.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The best newspaper in the state is the Arcata Eye. Just the police blotter. The rest is utterly banal ho-hum typical small-town shite journalism, unfortunately. The police blotter is world-famous, though, and well worth the time.
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Leperflesh posted:Just the police blotter. The rest is utterly banal ho-hum typical small-town shite journalism, unfortunately. I liked this  columnhttp://www.arcataeye.com/2011/08/kevin-hoover-the-infinite-world-of-arcata-%E2%80%93-september-3-2011/
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giznot posted:San Francisco Chronicle I'd actually argue the Sacramento Bee is better than the Chronicle, which is a real rag. I'd put the LA Times slightly above the bee. They all kind of suck though.
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giznot posted:San Francisco Chronicle What? The SF chronicle is poo poo. I guess there's not much that's better though (it's all pretty much poo poo). e: f;b
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