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knife super power
Nov 4, 2010

Winklebottom posted:

Is the finale an hour or just regular length? Because the last 5 minutes kept throwing stuff at us that needs to be shown.


Maybe Pump Up The Jam? What about Move This!?

Ugh. Baby let me...

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Protagorean
May 19, 2013

by Azathoth
Yeah, he can't be Major Tom. Brock left him screaming at the bottom of the Sargasso Sea. But it could have just been a whole thing referencing members of Team Venture, proving that he used to be one of Jonas's friends until he turned him into a homicidal cyborg. Man, it really sucks to be connected to Jonas Venture. Just ask Dr. Entmann and the dozens of children he left trapped underground!

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

KilGrey posted:

And I thought GhostRobot was killed in the Every Which Way but Zeus episode.

Excuse me how can you kill a ghost? :colbert:

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos

KilGrey posted:

Nah, they could have just grabbed him coming out of the restaurant if that's what the plan was. They just wanted to get him talking about his "co-workers", name them if possible. And I thought GhostRobot was killed in the Every Which Way but Zeus episode.

Also, what was Vandata/Major Tom saying at the end that's making you guys think he's Major Tom and The Monarch's father? I couldn't understand him. :(

Basically where is my wife and the plane going doooooown.

Though the creators could be trolling us.

Also pretty sure the finale is one hour.

RandallODim
Dec 30, 2010

Another 1? Aww man...

Shindragon posted:

Also pretty sure the finale is one hour.

Checking the schedule, it looks like the finale is only half an hour. I really hope I'm wrong though!

Dynamite Dog
Dec 12, 2012

KilGrey posted:

At 2:19, is...is The Monarch dressed up like Lo Pan?

Definitely Lo Pan.

So speculating from the season 5 trailer:

You can see Dr. Mrs. The Monarch with Doc in his goofy clown costume suit and tie so he definitely lives. I also think we haven't seen the scene of Doc walking down the road mostly naked as the hover tank drives past so presumably he escapes with her help and unbeknownst to Hatred. Then you have that scene with Hatred shelling the cocoon which makes sense but I still have no idea how Gary ends up all First Blood in the woods with Hatred.

OtherworldlyInvader
Feb 10, 2005

The X-COM project did not deliver the universe's ultimate cup of coffee. You have failed to save the Earth.


Servaetes posted:

Anyone else notice on Shore Leave's guild ID Eyes was labeled YUMMY?

I caught this on the rewatch!

KilGrey posted:

Also, what was Vandata/Major Tom saying at the end that's making you guys think he's Major Tom and The Monarch's father? I couldn't understand him. :(
As near as I can tell, his is exact words at the end are:

"Where is my wife? Have you...? Honey! Does not compute! [Brock: Oh, hey sorry man haven't seen her] Does not com- Who am I? I think the plane is going down..."

The Monarch's parents died in a plane crash and we got the picture of Dr. Venture and them earlier this season so it seems to be hinting at that, but then again we know how the speculation of Dermott being Brock's son turned out.

If you want more useless Vendata :spergin: heres all the text they showed in his OSI profile:

quote:

Name/Known Aliases: Vendata - 1979 to present.
N/A = Apr. 1977-1978
Venturion - 1976 - 1977

Cyborg prototype built by Venture Industries circa 1976. The Matchless Mercenary Project, (Venture: MRP) also responsible for Prototype: MRP-7 (Dienamonster), and Prototype MRP-12 (The Slaughter Engine.) Project was abandoned after subject exhibited erratic behavior, attempted to strangle Rusty Venture.

Created for "military and domestic excellence" (source: Venture Educational Video - N0.10865) Vendata is suspected of being a robot/human hybrid with built-in weaponry. Stripped of personality and former self (Human identity un-known), subject may appear unemotional. Biology unknown. X-rays provided by clandestine means reveal human organs enhanced by robot extensions of func-

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.
If the Monarch and Rusty were in college at the same time, '76 sounds about right for when the Monarch's parents died.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
Watch them never bring this up again, and it just becomes another little nugget of "common knowledge" that Vendata was the Monarch's dad, like Kano killing Jonah.

JT Jag fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Jul 15, 2013

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
The Vendata as the Monarch's dad theory has a major hole in it.

Rusty and The Monarch are both about the same age. The Monarch's parents died when he was 8. If Vendata was made in 1976 from a freshly killed Monarch Dad then the Monarch would have been born in 1968. Rusty was already a boy adventurer in 1968: that's when he was first taken to Spanikopeta.

Edit: Misplaced a sentence.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

RandomPauI posted:

The Vendata as the Monarch's dad theory has a major hole in it.

The Monarch's parents died when he was 8. If Vendata was made in 1976 from a freshly killed Monarch Dad then the Monarch would have been born in 1968. Rusty was already a boy adventurer in 1968: that's when he was first taken to Spanikopeta.
Who's to say he was made out of freshly killed Monarch Dad? Maybe he was on ice for a decade before they made him.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008

JT Jag posted:

Watch them never bring this up again, and it just becomes another little nugget of "common knowledge" that Vendata was the Monarch's dad, like Kano killing Jonah.

As always:

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

JT Jag posted:

Who's to say he was made out of freshly killed Monarch Dad? Maybe he was on ice for a decade before they made him.

Why would Jonas bother? Lives to him are a dime a dozen. Death is just a part of the super-science game.



Oh god that episode! I was completely certain that Mol planted the clues on Billy's DVDs as a set-up. Why risk your own life trying to bump off your three fiercest competitors when you can have Brock Sampson do it for you?

RandomPauI fucked around with this message at 10:54 on Jul 15, 2013

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

The guy shouting out,"TOO SOON!" at the funeral when Clue Clown burst out of his coffin on a spring was hilarious.... as was all the rest of the episode.

They played the loving Munsters theme when they were driving in the car :allears:

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
I just love how they can use all these Hanna-Barbera references.

Its so loving great.

OtherworldlyInvader
Feb 10, 2005

The X-COM project did not deliver the universe's ultimate cup of coffee. You have failed to save the Earth.


Brock must have finally cashed in those Manboro miles for the canoe, there's one hanging from the rafters in his Brock-cave. He lived to see that canoe after all. :allears:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Yeah okay, it's low hanging fruit but I still laughed a lot at this:

Good Listener
Sep 2, 2006

Ask me about moons
Fact #1 The Moon is really cool
I've really been enjoying the episodes this season and i am disappointed we're already at the finale next week. It seems everything just started :sigh:

evilwaldo
Aug 2, 2004

@dcurban1: #FlyersTalk @28CGiroux and @Hartsy19 What do the C and A mean to you? We as fans expect more.Are you leaders or do you just make funny vids

@dcurban1: #flyerstalk @28CGiroux @Hartsy19 The A and the C are supposed to mean something. Leadership not stock quotes to reporters. Time to lead.

Justaddwater posted:

It's a pity they keep having Rusty being shown as scared and panicked when hes in danger. I love the moments were he's just nonchalant and jaded as gently caress. I mean he's been dealing with poo poo like that nonstop for decades.

That comes from one of the animators who used to give Rusty an annoyed look in the background if the scene was not about him.

That was such a great little touch.

Winklebottom
Dec 19, 2007

Brrrrrick Frog! :3:



Also, just received the first 3 shirts! Titmouse can find Scandinavia after all!

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.
Remember how, in the season 2 DVDs, Jackson and Doc joke that the next season will introduce a sassy, flamboyant character whose catchphrase is "Boom! Yummy." - and Season 3 introduced us to Shore Leave/Holy Diver? I just recalled the NYC Comic-Con panel they did after season 4, where Doc Hammer says:

Doc Hammer posted:

We have two voices that are almost the same voice, [Ghost Robot] and the guy from the Council of 13, (monotone) "The One Who Speaks Like This." They're really long horrible voices, I want to do a whole episode that is just those two guys talking and just excruciate everyone around them not having a good time.

Not quite a whole episode, but it was certainly the backbone of "Bot Seeks Bot." Hell, in trying to find that quote I went back to their SDCC panel from last year, where Doc says "Yeah, we brought back that Saint Cloud idiot from season 1" super off-handedly after talking about their habit of turning background extras into full-fledged characters. I'm not writing off anything these guys say in interviews going forward.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Winklebottom posted:

Also, just received the first 3 shirts! Titmouse can find Scandinavia after all!

Did you have to pay customs or VAT for these or are you lucky and it's not a thing in your northern socialist paradises?

My shirts haven't arrived yet but I plan to refuse the delivery if it comes down to additional 24€ per package because they're incapable of declaring their stuff correctly.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
I've got a whole week of nothing to do so I'm going to marathon the entire show again. As soon as I decided this, I went and got my DVDs from the shelf and looked over the episode lists, then was immediately sad that I'll have three whole seasons before Sgt Hatred becomes a major character. I guess I've come to love the guy v:shobon:v

Winklebottom
Dec 19, 2007

Sereri posted:

Did you have to pay customs or VAT for these or are you lucky and it's not a thing in your northern socialist paradises?

My shirts haven't arrived yet but I plan to refuse the delivery if it comes down to additional 24€ per package because they're incapable of declaring their stuff correctly.

I wondered about that too but I didn't have to pay anything extra. VAT is very much a thing here but the enforcement seems pretty spotty :shrug:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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The "bouncer not buying the ventriloquist gag for a second but playing along anyway" thing was pretty great, but it kinda felt like a rehash of the "smuggling Bigfoot and Steve Summers past the MPs" bit.

I loved how they animated Billy playing the dummy though. :3:

Also—man, this show sure is getting a lot of mileage out of "bat-themed superheroes/villains who may or may not be derivative of Batman", isn't it?

Data Graham fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Jul 15, 2013

Citizen Insane
Oct 7, 2004

We come in to the world and we have to go, but we do not go merely to serve the turn of one enemy or another.

Friends Are Evil posted:

Something I just noticed rewatching this: Billy calls Pete "Steve Albino".

Never thought I'd see a Steve Albini joke in a fairly mainstream show.

I actually screamed OH gently caress YOU GUYS at the TV when they dropped that one. Talk about obscure.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Data Graham posted:

The "bouncer not buying the ventriloquist gag for a second but playing along anyway" thing was pretty great, but it kinda felt like a rehash of the "smuggling Bigfoot and Steve Summers past the MPs" bit.

I loved how they animated Billy playing the dummy though. :3:

Also—man, this show sure is getting a lot of mileage out of "bat-themed superheroes/villains who may or may not be derivative of Batman", isn't it?

There is only The Bat

LashLightning
Feb 20, 2010

You know you didn't have to go post that, right?
But it's fine, I guess...

You just keep being you!

Have the Dienamonster or the Slaughter Engine, also products of the project that created Vendata, shown up before? Also, nice to know that Rusty apparently did better with his Venturesteins (i.e. got them into production, even if the military just used them for suicide bombing) than Jonas did with his Weaponise-The-Dead project.

Great episode, looking forward to the finale!

Edit:



Joseph and His Multicoloured Nightmare Coat!

LashLightning fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jul 15, 2013

DynamicSloth
Jul 30, 2006

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

So from what's been shown so far, the finale might reveal The Monarch is Jonas bastard son, Rusty did something to accidentally cause their plane to crash, which is why when Jonas brought him back as a Cyborg he choked Rusty, thinking they got his kid killed, and why the Monarch hates him

Problem with that last point, Monarch only recently discovered he knew the Ventures as a child, also hasn't it been implied his beef with Doc specifically goes back to college?

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
Where was best villain?

axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer
I like the idea that Brick Frog got in the club, but St Cloud wasn't cool enough to get in.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

axleblaze posted:

I've been rewatching alot of older Venture and I think my favorite thing about Doc is that nothing really phases him and his default response is to be a petty, sarcastic dick. Like in Powerless in the Face of Death, when Orpheus teleports in, covered in ectoplasm, his only response is to say "we have a door". Also in Love Beits, they're all being held in the pantry and the invite to the Baron and Deans wedding get slipped under the door. Brock grabs it and docs only response is "that was addressed to me?" He just doesn't miss the chance to be annoyed by things that don't matter and it's especially great because he doesn't really get annoyed by actually threatening things, just bored.

He may be physically weak, self-serving and impotent but he's a total badass when it comes to facing the unknown. Makes sense of course, he's Rusty loving Venture, the Greatest Boy Adventurer that ever was. The poo poo he's seen and the psychological torture he was put through before he hit puberty was so horrible that what's going to phase him anymore? Also the old Team Venture literally raised him to be a child murderer. As in a child that murders people.

Honestly it's a wonder he's not more screwed up, nobody has been shat upon in the show as much as Rusty was. Even Hank and Dean had Brock as an actually good father figure, Rusty had no-one whatsoever. Except H.E.L.P.E.R, I guess...

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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What's going to phase him? Three words: HOLY DAMMIT CHRISTMAS

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

DarkCrawler posted:

He may be physically weak, self-serving and impotent but he's a total badass when it comes to facing the unknown. Makes sense of course, he's Rusty loving Venture, the Greatest Boy Adventurer that ever was. The poo poo he's seen and the psychological torture he was put through before he hit puberty was so horrible that what's going to phase him anymore? Also the old Team Venture literally raised him to be a child murderer. As in a child that murders people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhF5PDxcixY&t=17s

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.

Data Graham posted:

What's going to phase him? Three words: HOLY DAMMIT CHRISTMAS

Hey, the GRAND GALACTIC INQUISITOR merited a "Ladysmith Black Mambazo!" but after the initial shock, it was back to "Who gives a poo poo?"

You can startle Rusty Venture, but you can't faze him.

KilGrey
Mar 13, 2005

You know how to whistle, don't you, Steve? Just put your lips together and blow...

DarkCrawler posted:

He may be physically weak, self-serving and impotent but he's a total badass when it comes to facing the unknown. Makes sense of course, he's Rusty loving Venture, the Greatest Boy Adventurer that ever was. The poo poo he's seen and the psychological torture he was put through before he hit puberty was so horrible that what's going to phase him anymore?

I loved how in the beginning of the episode the OSI profile said Vendata was discontinued after almost choking Rusty to death and then when Doc sees Vendata at the club we get him saying, "oh my god, the giant metal man from my nightmares IS real!"

I wonder how many of his bad dreams are really just repressed memories from a hosed up childhood.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

KilGrey posted:

I wonder how many of his bad dreams are really just repressed memories from a hosed up childhood.

And fetushood.

PotatoJudge
May 22, 2004

Tell me about the rabbits, George

JT Jag posted:

Watch them never bring this up again, and it just becomes another little nugget of "common knowledge" that Vendata was the Monarch's dad, like Kano killing Jonah.

Wait, Kano killed Jonah Sr.?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
It's strongly implied. But it was also strongly implied that Zandau killed Dr. Venture's grandfather.

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BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....
Has any one made a list of all the Villains that where shown? I really want to remember the name of the that female villain in the flower get up.

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