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Day 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAIlwH9tJCc&feature=youtube_gdata_player Kaisei and Aoiyama doing very nicely this basho, kinda like how Gagamaru did last basho. Hope they don't follow the same trajectory in two months. I hope Harumafuji is only dealing with some mental issues, as he's looked way off the past three matches.
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anakha posted:I hope Harumafuji is only dealing with some mental issues, as he's looked way off the past three matches. Just doesn't look good, how much is left in the tank? I mean there's no demotion right? You win or you call it a day? Hakuhou, Beastlord of the Sumomen.
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Funkysauce posted:Hakuhou, Beastlord of the Sumomen. So who else had Kotooshu as the closest challenger to Hakuho after 10 days? Anyone? Bueller?
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That raises an interesting question for me, one which I've never really thought about until now. How much betting goes on with regard to sumo? Its it anywhere close to the degree that sports betting has permeated the US?
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Fryhtaning posted:So who else had Kotooshu as the closest challenger to Hakuho after 10 days? I really hope he's turned a corner. He's probably just going to go back to barely dodging demotion, though. 
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anakha posted:That raises an interesting question for me, one which I've never really thought about until now. I believe betting on sports is illegal in Japan.
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It's illegal to gamble but people still do it. I'm sure people bet on sumo but I'm not sure of the scope. My guess would be that few people do but the people who do do so through yakuza channels and probably bet a lot of money.
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TotallyGreen posted:I believe betting on sports is illegal in Japan. Wait what. Keirin exists entirely FOR gambling. Or is it not a "sport"?
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Gibbo posted:Wait what. Legal sports gambling is limited to keirin, horse racing (keiba), boat racing (kyotei), and motorcycle racing (autorace). Everything else you need a tattooed bookie for.
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Mr. Fix It posted:Legal sports gambling is limited to keirin, horse racing (keiba), boat racing (kyotei), and motorcycle racing (autorace). Everything else you need a tattooed bookie for. Sumo has Fantasy Sports written all over it, although that'd be tough to do because you'd have to make your predictions on a daily basis. And speaking of, I saw that there is a fantasy league at Sumotalk.com. Has anyone done it before? Also: That was complete bullshit, Harumafauji. vvvv Poor Kotoshogiku's wife. She probably can't walk for days afterwards. Fryhtaning fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Jul 17, 2013 |
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Day 11: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRyRbTAw7Hs&feature=youtube_gdata_player at the gyoji in the Kitataiki match going "start this loving thing already!"Poor Daido. Kotoshogiku looks hilarious when he grabs ahold of someone and tries to belly-gently caress them out of the dohyo. Less than dominant performances today from both yokozuna.
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For the first time in years Kotooshu has an outside shot at an yusho and he ruins it with a performance like this
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Just Winging It posted:For the first time in years Kotooshu has an outside shot at an yusho and he ruins it with a performance like this He got half-henka'd by a Yokozuna, so there isn't much he could have done.
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Just Winging It posted:For the first time in years Kotooshu has an outside shot at an yusho and he ruins it with a performance like this More like he got Harumafuji'd by a desperate yokozuna. A guy at work told me he'd rather see a yokozuna act like that then feign an injury when they have a bad record.
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Day 12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FreN9osy8Bc I hope he's not terribly hurt
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Omnikin posted:Day 12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FreN9osy8Bc Kise has quietly come back to be in a good position for the jun-yusho, assuming that Kaisei continues getting beat by real competition. I'm glad the Yokozuna talk has been squelched, but he's still the best Ozeki by a mile. Let's just get that thing called a "yusho" before we begin talking about it again, yeah?
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I don't know, Kise's (9-3) in a bad spot for second methinks. Pulls one of the Yokos tomorrow and the other must be waiting for him day 14/15. Meanwhile Aoiyama (10-2) gets Takayasu and Kaisei (9-3) faces Masunoyama, both tomorrow. Certainly an easier road for the lower ranked wrestlers. Tomorrow! Hakuho-Kotooshu Harumafuji-Kisenosato
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what a bizarre ending in tochiouzan-goeido. i can't understand why, given their records, a match like that would be fixed, but nothing about that looked natural.
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As much as I generally hope for Hakuhou to lose (because he almost never does), ending his winning streak with an injury would be a pretty lame way to go.
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Saw the Hakuhou bout and it was great; if he is injured he did not show it today. The odd thing was it felt as if Hakuhou wanted to end the bout fast. Great match to see today.
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Day 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfU2YbsgjFM The Endou match was really great, and Hakuhou didn't seem to be any worse for wear. I've come to find I really enjoy Shouhouzan's matches. His record isn't great, but he's very fiery and seems like he's always full steam ahead. Do people actually root for sumo with bad records? If I equate it to the NFL I feel like I'm jumping on the Browns bandwagon.
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Day 14: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh8BF5b_uW4 the yusho might have already been decided, but you're going to want to watch this one.
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Good day despite the inevitable outcome of the tournament. ENDOU! This dude came out of nowhere. Definitely excited to see where he goes. That Kise-Hakuhou match was not what I wanted to see, being a Kise-hater. On the plus side, Harumafuji showed some good sumo. I got a sunburn while swimming in the ocean at Mito. Fucker itches like crazy.
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Kotooshu got jobbed a couple of times. I guess they really want Kisensato up there. I loved Aran's henka because it made this old lady's mouth agape. 
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Kotooshu definitely got robbed by Shouhouzan, which was disappointing considering they're probably my two favorite sumo. I'd love to see either of them go on a run. That Hakuhou / Kisenosato match was intense. If Kisenosato wins the possibility of a Yokozuna run next basho (warranted or not) will be interesting.
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Wow Day 14 ending was crazy! I respect Kisenosato for his prowess in the dohyo, but I do not want him to become Yokozuna. I agree that Shohouzan shouldn't have won today, even though he is one of my favorites, the outcome was really obvious. Poor Daidou, I wonder if he will have a 0-15.. Osunaarashi is definitely on his way to being one of my favorites.
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Uncle Jam posted:Kotooshu got jobbed a couple of times. I guess they really want Kisensato up there. Yeah, sometimes the crowd can be hilarious or make a match more fun. One of my favorite moments in sumo is the second before a big match where the whole place is silent and then erupts on the tachi-ai.
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THE Green Ranger posted:I respect Kisenosato for his prowess in the dohyo, but I do not want him to become Yokozuna. That said, if Kisenosato goes 15-0 next basho and looks like a monster I'll probably change my mind.
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Day 15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YESn2OOkegoTHE Green Ranger posted:Poor Daidou, I wonder if he will have a 0-15.. Does anything significant happen when someone has a record this bad? Is it just loss of rank?
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Harumafuji at least got 2 yusho in a row and has won 5 tournaments in his career. Kisenosato hasn't won any.
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Anime Reference posted:Yeah, I'm not really a fan of this "get enough wins in two basho and we'll make you a Yokozuna" business. That's how Harumafuji got his and he's been pretty disappointing since. Um, what? Harumafuji won his requisite two basho and went undefeated in one. E: Thank God the Kisenosato-for-yokozuna talk can be stopped for now. Hakuho looked uninterested as gently caress in that match. Was he taking it easy because of the injury or because he had the basho in the bag? anakha fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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Definitely felt like he didn't care anymore. You have to remember though: sumo god or not, Hakuho did go for almost three whole tournaments without losing. It's hard to hold that second loss against him, since losing yesterday probably threw him off his game. Also it gave Harumafuji a double-digit record which makes him look a little better. Hakuho wins the tournament, Harumafuji goes home with a win over the champion, everyone's happy, right?
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Anime Reference posted:That's how Harumafuji got his and he's been pretty disappointing since. Not only is that wrong, but it's been pointed out several times that Harumafuji is only disappointing when compared directly to Hakuho and Asashoryu. He had a couple disappointing losses this tournament, but he's been great otherwise - definitely a cut above the Ozeki.
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Well, unfortunately this tournament really turned me against Kisenosato. I feel bad because he was my favorite Ozeki, but the obvious favoritism he receives just isn't cool. I get that it's rough to have your national sport dominated by outsiders, but the current restriction on foreigners (one per stable, even if they become citizens) is bad enough, it's bullshit that Japanese wrestlers also get special treatment on top of that. Watching Baruto destroy people next tournament from M10-14 or so should be amazing. I'd be surprised if he did much worse than 12-3. Osunaarashi is crazy, because in addition to his obvious notoriety (Egyptian, shot up the ranks at lightning pace), he looks straight up stronger than anyone else he's wrestling against. Not even "a bit stronger", but ludicrously so. His technique is pretty bad though. Hopefully he can get his KK from the top of Juryo next tournament and we can see him in Makuuchi in November.
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TotallyGreen posted:Well, unfortunately this tournament really turned me against Kisenosato. I feel bad because he was my favorite Ozeki, but the obvious favoritism he receives just isn't cool. I get that it's rough to have your national sport dominated by outsiders, but the current restriction on foreigners (one per stable, even if they become citizens) is bad enough, it's bullshit that Japanese wrestlers also get special treatment on top of that. Same thing happens in Go, all the big prize money is in Japan but they don't let anyone but Japanese (very rare exceptions excluded) play for the money. For most international tournaments all the Japanese players get bounced out by the Koreans and Chinese. In one vein its surprising that this sort of representation by foreigners is allowed at all. Hopefully foreigners will become more tolerated as time goes on, similar to baseball and basketball in the 60s-70s here.
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Eh, as awesome as he was to watch at the beginning, he really didn't have any juice left by the end. Takayasu was a lot like that in the past, where he'd do ok in his first week, maybe beat a couple ozeki, but then end up with a losing record because he wasn't into it anymore at the end.
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No Endo talk? I'm surprised. The dude destroyed Juryo this basho. I'd like to see how he does in Makuuchi. I think he'll probably be like Chiyotairyu. Really talented but ultimately needs more experience to become great. Re: Baruto, I read someplace that he's going down to Juryo.......... Edit: And I think y'all need to be more patient with Chiyotairyu. He's only been in Makuuchi for 8 tournaments and has gotten up to M2. As you know, most rikishi hit a wall when they get up into the high M's. I think Chiyotairyu only missing his KK at M3 by 1 win is pretty encouraging. Dr.Radical fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Yeah Radical, for sure. Let him build up his endurance, work on his legs and follow-through, and he just might have enough game to win a championship clean! You know, when Hakuho retires.
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Dr.Radical posted:No Endo talk? I'm surprised. The dude destroyed Juryo this basho. I'd like to see how he does in Makuuchi. I think he'll probably be like Chiyotairyu. Really talented but ultimately needs more experience to become great. Endo's cool, but Osunaarashi overshadowed him for me (even though he beat him), just because of the storyline. Looking forwards to seeing Endo in Makuuchi though. There's no way that Baruto goes to Juryo from M6. Worst thing they'd do is stick him at M16 or something. That said, I really want to see the 15-0 destruction that would come from Baruto in Juryo.
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