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So my buddy Tim really likes beer. He keeps building this up, I think eventually it's going to cover both arms:
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Got two pretty great flights at the bar anniversary party. Could have stayed to try more, but well, it's a weeknight. Beers in a flight ranged 4-6oz so I was pretty toasty by the time we cashed out anyway. #1 - Firestone Anniversary XVI, Goose Island BCBS, The Bruery Sour in the Rye and New Belgium Love (one of the base beers blended to make their sours) aged in peach whiskey barrels. Flight #2 - Funkwerks Deceit (Belgian golden strong) aged in rum barrels, Pliny the Elder, North Coast Barrel Aged Old Rasputin and another Goose Island BCBS because I couldn't resist  Some other good options I passed on were Dogfish Bitch's Brew and Burton Baton, Avery's The Beast and Samael, Odell Friek and Deconstruction and Stone Enjoy By 8/2 to name a few. It wasn't as off the charts ridiculous as some tap lists I see posted here but it was none to shabby. Nothing was less than outstanding, and the only one I'd had before was Pliny. I've had BCBS Coffee and I think it spoiled me; standard BCBS only tasted Really drat Good instead of Mind Blowing. Firestone XVI was delicious and complex as expected, reminded me of Avery Uncle Jacob's toned down a bit (which is a testament to how insane Jacob is). BA Old Rasputin was very alcohol hot, maybe my least favorite of the bunch but when you consider the competition that's not too bad. And I actually preferred the New Belgium sour to Sour in the Rye, there was a weird off-putting aroma to Rye that I could not quite place. The bar did a really good job managing the crowd. None of the big name taps had kicked when I got there at 6 despite being on since 11AM. ~10 min wait to get in but it was worth it to actually have room to get a table instead of it being nuts to butts jostling for the bar. Phanatic posted:So my buddy Tim really likes beer. He keeps building this up, I think eventually it's going to cover both arms: Those look really well done. I see Firestone Walker and Heady Topper, what's in the middle with the guy's face and the nautical stuff?
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Jul 16, 2013 05:20
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The face is Founders Double Trouble.
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Jul 16, 2013 05:24
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It was a good day. Got to try about 2oz of Parabola tonight, and  . Probably the best BA Imperial Stout I've ever had, I think I like it even more than I like Black Note. A customer also brought me in a GI BCBS tonight, which I've never tried. Probably going to save that one until the weekend, when I can share it with a friend.
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Jul 16, 2013 09:00
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So besides Zwanze Day, looks like I have a San Antonio trip coming up in my life  (in other words, Peche'cus is probably being released holy poo poo)http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/freetail-bottle-releases-i-want-your-input.103089/ Anyone here wanna carpool, let me know.
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Jul 16, 2013 16:27
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wattershed posted:I'm honestly curious to know how it tastes, given the rave reviews it got when it was made last time around. Someone (you?) was trying to trade their growler on reddit but was rebuffed when the $4$ for it was in the high $50s. Not me. I'm actually saving it for my wife's birthday on Friday. Wouldn't be surprised if they still have the beer at Societe after the party if you wanted to try it. I'd ask, of course.
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Jul 16, 2013 16:57
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If I wasn't going to be in MN, I'm pretty sure I'd be spending a weekend in St. Louis: http://stlhops.com/beer-list-for-midwest-belgian-beer-festival-2/ LC... 1-3. And a chance to try some Toppling Goliath stuff. And Matilda Lambicus. And some good looking things from Perennial. And...
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Jul 16, 2013 17:00
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Captain Shortbus posted:The face is Founders Double Trouble. The lion seems to be Ommegang's but I'm not sure what the bear is.
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Jul 16, 2013 17:16
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ShaneB posted:The lion seems to be Ommegang's but I'm not sure what the bear is. Pretty sure they're both part of the Firestone Walker logo. imgur's being a POS right now but http://beerbygarth.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/firestone-walker.jpg is one example.
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Jul 16, 2013 17:20
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ShaneB posted:The lion seems to be Ommegang's but I'm not sure what the bear is. Firestone Walker
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Jul 16, 2013 17:20
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air- posted:So besides Zwanze Day, looks like I have a San Antonio trip coming up in my life Is Zwanze Day actually worth it? I don't really keep a bunch of ~limited rare exclusives~ sitting around to share in the line nor does that aspect particularly interest me. At least when you're doing the whole wait for 4 hours thing you usually get to take something home with you, not sure how I feel about doing it just to taste some beer.
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Jul 16, 2013 17:22
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I think FW's logo symbolizes the CA brewers duking it out against the traditional Belgian brewers. The bear is CA (see the star?) and the lion is Belgium.
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Jul 16, 2013 17:27
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Eejit posted:Is Zwanze Day actually worth it? I don't really keep a bunch of ~limited rare exclusives~ sitting around to share in the line nor does that aspect particularly interest me. At least when you're doing the whole wait for 4 hours thing you usually get to take something home with you, not sure how I feel about doing it just to taste some beer. I think it depends on the location and how it's handled (and probably how much the locals care). Last year in Chicago, the whole thing was done at West Lakeview's tiny double-shop and the small dive bar across the street. Other than when something rare got tapped, there wasn't a lot of clusterfuckery. Hell, I got two samples of Fou Foune about 30 minutes apart from each other. Overall, I thought it was actually really well organized given the limited space, but YMMV. Captain Shortbus posted:The face is Founders Double Trouble. Do people like Double Trouble that much to get it tat'd on you? It gets some love but I wouldn't put it close to my Top 10 IIPAs...
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Jul 16, 2013 17:37
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danbanana posted:Do people like Double Trouble that much to get it tat'd on you? It gets some love but I wouldn't put it close to my Top 10 IIPAs... This was my immediate first thought but then I remembered all of the people with Mickey's hornet tattoos (do a google image search for "mickey's hornet" and the first half dozen images are tattoos). People like dumb tattoos (says the guy with the fundamental theorem of calculus on his calf and the maryland flag on his shin). And at least the double trouble logo he has is done well.
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Jul 16, 2013 17:47
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Eejit posted:Is Zwanze Day actually worth it? I don't really keep a bunch of ~limited rare exclusives~ sitting around to share in the line nor does that aspect particularly interest me. At least when you're doing the whole wait for 4 hours thing you usually get to take something home with you, not sure how I feel about doing it just to taste some beer. YMMV depending on your location. I'd call up the place having the event and ask others who have previously been. I'm eyeballing New Orleans (everyone I know who has gone said it's one of the best beer events they've been to) or Austin - simply because it's a historic event for Jester King and Texas craft beer in general. September will be insane for me. 7th is Untapped Festival (which could be the best festival we've had here), 14th: Zwanze Day, and Freetail confirmed that release is on the 21st. I should look and see if Costco sells coconut water and buy a pallet of it 
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Jul 16, 2013 18:00
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I will be at my local bar tonight: http://www.beermenus.com/places/1164-poor-phil-s I still haven't had Doom, I'm super-pumped to try the Perennial/HA collab, Cucumbersome sounds fantastic, people are raving about Silver & Gold... Why do I have to work tomorrow?
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Jul 16, 2013 18:18
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I want to be at your local bar tonight, alas, I'm in the home stretch and we're inducing my wife on Thursday morning. Here's hoping I'm drinking a beer and holding my boy by late Thursday.
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Jul 16, 2013 18:24
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BoredByThis posted:I want to be at your local bar tonight, alas, I'm in the home stretch and we're inducing my wife on Thursday morning. Here's hoping I'm drinking a beer and holding my boy by late Thursday. Best of luck!
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Jul 16, 2013 18:26
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I went to Sour Sessions v7 last night at ChurchKey in DC. I hate that bar so much - never has Cantillon tasted so lackluster as when it's served by a terrible waiter while being surrounded by douchebags who "didn't even realize there was an event." Notes: Cantillon Geueze/Kriek - I like these best with a little age. The Geueze was distinctly non-sour compared to bottled versions that I've had, although the sour cherries really helped in the case of the Kriek. Abbaye St BC Zymatore - finished in sherry barrels. Maybe the best thing I had all night, very cool. Cuvee Freddy Zymatore - close second from the Abbaye, but I could have done without whatever portion was aged in Zinfandel barrels. Sauer Power (Jester King/ Freigeist) - I'm a sucker for smoked sours (the NC BBQ of the beer world), but this one had some weirdness to the texture that kinda took away from the overall impression. I think maybe a bit of age would help [the keg explode]. Freigeist Pink Gose - nothing terribly special and not very "Gose"-y, but still a good summer drink. Evil Twin Femme Fatale Brett - 100% Brett IPA. Very tasty, maybe a bit havy on the bitterness between the brett and the IBUs. Ypres (De Struisse), Plan B (Perennial/Half-Acre Collab), Vicaris Tripel-Gueze, Silly Sour To Ol/Mikkeller gently caress Art, Let's Dance- all fine sours, but no real standouts. The Tripel-geueze was better when I tried it in the bottle, but even then it's not something I'd really seek out to drink. Boston Beer Co Kosmic Mother Funk -  this suckedEmelisse Smoked Coffee Porter - peat smoke and coffee. Not a sour, but they had this on tap and it was really good. So few beers work with peat smoke, but this is one of the good ones. Also let me take this time to complain about serving temperature: I understand that cold = less flavor, but when it's taking 30+ minutes for the server to return and take another round of orders, maybe serve me cold beer and we'll let it warm up naturally. Life in a glass, etc.
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Jul 16, 2013 18:39
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Not really beer-specific but I've been watching Ken Burns' Prohibition on netflix and it's pretty surreal that Prohibition ever happened. Between hatchet-wielding bar smashers, religious fanatics, and an opposition who didn't seriously think prohibition would ever pass it's like the perfect storm of craziness.
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Jul 16, 2013 19:01
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HatfulOfHollow posted:Not really beer-specific but I've been watching Ken Burns' Prohibition on netflix and it's pretty surreal that Prohibition ever happened. Between hatchet-wielding bar smashers, religious fanatics, and an opposition who didn't seriously think prohibition would ever pass it's like the perfect storm of craziness. Just finished episode 2 last night, and it is pretty awesome and surreal. Highly recommend it if you've got Netflix Instant. The whole thing is fascinating, as you watch a law get "enforced" by men who didn't want it passed, while for the most part the fanatics that worked so hard to get it passed melt away. They just assumed that passing the law was all that was needed - if it's illegal than nobody will do it - so none of the temperance movements bothered pressuring for effective enforcement. And in the absence of that pressure, most of the government looked the other way or actively helped in subverting the law.
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Jul 16, 2013 19:16
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FreelanceSocialist posted:I think FW's logo symbolizes the CA brewers duking it out against the traditional Belgian brewers. The bear is CA (see the star?) and the lion is Belgium. Firestone and Walker are the two founders of the brewery - one is from CA (The bear), one is from england (the lion).
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Jul 16, 2013 20:06
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Well that's not nearly as exciting.
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Jul 16, 2013 20:25
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danbanana posted:I will be at my local bar tonight: Doom isn't that great. I didn't much care for the Perennial/HA thing but you may like it better than I. Silver and Gold is pretty good though. In terms of Zwanze day, it's fairly likely that West Lakeview will be able to open up the back yard for attendees so it might be less nuts to butts this year (remember though that this is entirely speculation). In addition to the taps there tends to be a healthy amount of bottle sharing going on too. Last year I saw Black Tuesday, White Chocolate, some Jackie Os that I can't remember, Serendipity, and a bunch of others cracked. I'll be attending again, but I hope they find a better way to deal with the crowds. In other news, Tilquin Quetsche has started to hit Chicago. Keep your eyes peeled.
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Jul 16, 2013 20:46
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danbanana posted:I will be at my local bar tonight: Doom was not very enjoyable. I don't believe a IIPA should be barrel aged. But who knows, maybe you'll enjoy vanilla and floral notes together at last....
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Jul 16, 2013 21:26
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Hahaha the bros are such pricks. Literally deleting pretty much everything that isn't a Vermont thread and censoring everyone who brings it up. I've seen this happen first hand on another forum (TokeCity) and it very well seems that the respective site owners are being compensated somehow to promote certain things. There is no other reason why insightful, long threads about great breweries would be randomly locked and deleted. Oh well, last time I ever give them a dime for or at one of their events.
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Jul 16, 2013 22:03
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Anyone who subscribes to their magazine, attends one of their festivals, or even visits a BA page to see what a rating is is actively hurting "beer culture" whatever you think that may be.
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Jul 16, 2013 22:19
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Well gee Dad, what about frequenting a bar/brewery that has their mag for free? Should I be associating with anyone associating with anyone who associates with them?
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Jul 16, 2013 22:51
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I bought yet another bottle of Espresso IRS. I literally cannot stop myself. That and one of dem Prairie (I think I grabbed the Prairie Hop?) beers will probably be split for the All Star game tonight.
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Jul 16, 2013 22:58
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Well gee Dad, what about frequenting a bar/brewery that has their mag for free? Should I be associating with anyone associating with anyone who associates with them? Cool strawman.
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Jul 16, 2013 22:59
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ShaneB posted:Anyone who subscribes to their magazine, attends one of their festivals, or even visits a BA page to see what a rating is is actively hurting "beer culture" whatever you think that may be. I fail to see what using it for the ratings does to hurt "beer culture" - could you please clarify?
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Jul 16, 2013 23:04
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ShaneB posted:Cool strawman.  <- Hey and look there's an ad hominem!I don't use BA but come on, you are not "actively hurting" beer by using their site. Plus the mag is fine a lot of the time. Except last month, which singlehandedly made me hate Wil Wheaton.
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Jul 16, 2013 23:16
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I admit one thing that's nice about BA's forums: if someone else quotes a user you've put on ignore, it keeps their posts hidden  BA's how I got into the hobby to begin with because of how people were so welcoming in their meetups/bottle shares. It's how I established many good relationships, and it's a primary point of contact I have with some people (specifically the types who refuse to use any other social media). People tend to migrate over there because it's been around for so long and apart from Facebook, the locals in my area don't really have anywhere else to congregate online.
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Jul 16, 2013 23:26
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SUPER HASSLER posted:
I didn't read the magazine, but I did have w00tstout a few days ago and it was pretty stellar.
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Jul 16, 2013 23:29
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BA was tolerable for a bit - but it kind of spun into a crazy vitriolic cyclone of circle-jerking and extremes of opinion thanks to it being a whale-chasing beer snob echo chamber. I just got fed up with the users there and ditched it for ratebeer.
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Jul 16, 2013 23:33
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90% of the people I've met on BA have been totally fine, normal people who just like beer. Then there's the other 10%. Ugh.
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Jul 16, 2013 23:41
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SUPER HASSLER posted:
Page views = money. And I'm making the argument that any financial support of the BA enterprise is essentially voting with your dollars in a negative way.
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Jul 16, 2013 23:50
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I wouldn't have 90% of the hate for BA that I do if it loving KEPT ME LOGGED IN. Goddamnit that's annoying. I don't even use it very often, but how hard is it to keep a cookie active?
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Jul 17, 2013 00:11
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I prefer Ratebeer for rating, but their forums blow. You can't find a thread that isn't laden with lovely one-lined inside humor. Today I had the first pils I fell in love with, Great Lakes Wright Pils. Holy poo poo this is refreshing.
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wattershed posted:I wouldn't have 90% of the hate for BA that I do if it loving KEPT ME LOGGED IN. Goddamnit that's annoying. I don't even use it very often, but how hard is it to keep a cookie active? It keeps me logged in fine, both Firefox and Chrome. Are you sure it isn't some settings on your browser? Also, I like ratebeer if I am looking at a number real quick just to see if its worth the price I am about to pay. I use BA if I actually want to read an extensive review. Also Ratebeer's forums are poo poo.
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