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A Tartan Tory posted:Now the king told the boogie men I'm in the modern era in 1940 and only have 150 tourism and thought I was doing great. Clearly I still have much to learn. 
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Nuclearmonkee posted:I would do random but it always gives me boring peaceful civs Haha, I'm the opposite. "poo poo, the Germans/Mongols/Huns? What a waste." I'm a ~builder~. 
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Jul 16, 2013 17:57
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Fintilgin posted:Haha, I'm the opposite. "poo poo, the Germans/Mongols/Huns? What a waste." I'm terrible at these games because I want to tech/build and then I forget to keep a small standing army and oh hello four people declare war on me all at once. 
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Jul 16, 2013 18:01
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Tsurupettan posted:I'm terrible at these games because I want to tech/build and then I forget to keep a small standing army and oh hello four people declare war on me all at once. The solution to this is befriending Military city states and keeping a standing army of six bowmen.
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Jul 16, 2013 18:04
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I play Marathon, of course I reroll. I'm not going to spend a week on a game doomed by a bad start. That said I also reroll huts because I'm shameless.
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Jul 16, 2013 18:11
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I play Marathon, of course I reroll. I'm not going to spend a week on a game doomed by a bad start. Just play shoshone and save yourself the trouble.
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Jul 16, 2013 18:12
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Is there any setting that will make you start where your civ 'belongs' on an Earth map? e.g. China actually starts in China. I was looking for one and couldn't find it.
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Jul 16, 2013 18:22
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Can musicians do concert tours if you're at war with a civilization? Since they can't enter with open borders it seems like that would be your only option if an AI just staunchly refuses to let them in. Granted declaring war just to hold the greatest concert of all time is a pretty awesome concept. Yup! I won my first BNW game by declaring war on Venice and dropping 3 musicians in on the same turn.
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Jul 16, 2013 18:24
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Geokinesis posted:For people waiting on a reduction to get Brave New World, GMG has a voucher for 30% off: Thanks you very much for this thing, now I, too, can ruthlessly murder my friends that didn't get Brave New World on pre-order.
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Jul 16, 2013 18:25
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Tsurupettan posted:Is there any setting that will make you start where your civ 'belongs' on an Earth map? e.g. China actually starts in China. I was looking for one and couldn't find it. There's roughly a billion maps on Steamworks with this. 'Play The World' is the best one, in my opinion. I dunno how many have updated to BNW. They're mostly massive, massive maps, and they make my poor computer fan spin like fuckin' crazy--so just beware.
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Jul 16, 2013 18:26
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Tsurupettan posted:Is there any setting that will make you start where your civ 'belongs' on an Earth map? e.g. China actually starts in China. I was looking for one and couldn't find it. Not by default but the Yet (not) Another Earth Maps Collection has maps of Earth and Europe of varying sizes with the civs and city states in their true start locations. It is Bnw compatible, I'm playing a 22 civs game as Venice on the giant map. Having Genoa Ragusa and the Vatican all start three tiles away was interesting to say the least
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Jul 16, 2013 18:31
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"Units gain experience from surviving combat, whether attacking or defending. Note: once a unit has 30 XP, it cannot gain any more experience from fighting Barbarians." Oh, that explains why I always struggle with getting unit promotions. 
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Jul 16, 2013 18:39
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You have to go to CivFanatics to get it, but the "Greatest Earth Map" or GEM is the best world map. It trims off the northern bits of the world and scales up interesting places like Europe and Central America, so you end up with a map that has all the important areas in an Earth map, but optimized for gameplay instead of realism.
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Jul 16, 2013 18:40
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Fintilgin posted:Haha, I'm the opposite. "poo poo, the Germans/Mongols/Huns? What a waste." Hey now, the Huns play a stellar builder's game 
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Gabriel Pope posted:Hey now, the Huns play a stellar builder's game The only difference is, you put all that useless wood into rams instead of silly things like libraries or granaries or hospitals!
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SlightlyMadman posted:You have to go to CivFanatics to get it, but the "Greatest Earth Map" or GEM is the best world map. It trims off the northern bits of the world and scales up interesting places like Europe and Central America, so you end up with a map that has all the important areas in an Earth map, but optimized for gameplay instead of realism. Here's the Thread But it doesn't look like it's updated for Brave New World? I played it once as the English and it was a good game. There really was a struggle for the panama area and expansion into Australia was pretty heated. My game ended with me nuking China to keep them from launching the rocket before I did.
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Jul 16, 2013 19:14
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A Tartan Tory posted:The only difference is, you put all that useless wood into rams instead of silly things like libraries or granaries or hospitals! Wood? Wood is for Iroquois; the Huns build everything out of livestock. Well-polished leather automobiles ply the streets under towering skyscrapers of horseflesh 
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Gabriel Pope posted:Wood? Wood is for Iroquois; the Huns build everything out of livestock. Well-polished leather automobiles ply the streets under towering skyscrapers of horseflesh I think I saw that in a Beksinski painting.
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Gabriel Pope posted:Wood? Wood is for Iroquois; the Huns build everything out of livestock. Well-polished leather automobiles ply the streets under towering skyscrapers of horseflesh Man, I'm going to have weird dreams tonight. Thanks. Though I suppose by that logic, Moai heads actually talk and give you advice on how to improve your society with philosophy.
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Jul 16, 2013 19:20
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I wasn't even sure what to do my one Hun game. It was cute and funny to have three cities (mine, a city state, and the Zulu capital) by approximately turn 22, but the happiness hit killed me. I beelined mathematics for the courthouse, but I couldn't handle the gold upkeep, felt like I crippled myself and gave up that game.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Beksinski  Thanks for this nightmare fuel.
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Fintilgin posted:I wasn't even sure what to do my one Hun game. It was cute and funny to have three cities (mine, a city state, and the Zulu capital) by approximately turn 22, but the happiness hit killed me. Were you extorting money from city states to keep solvent? When you are being a horrible monster that is essential to balance the budget.
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Talking about being a horrible monster, what civ is best for domination on a pangaea nowadays? I take it that it's the Zulu?
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RBA Starblade posted:I'm in the modern era in 1940 and only have 150 tourism and thought I was doing great. Clearly I still have much to learn. Nah, that guy has Legendary Start enabled which gives you crazy poo poo like that. He's definitely receiving a big boost normal players don't get, so don't feel bad for not matching it.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Nah, that guy has Legendary Start enabled which gives you crazy poo poo like that. He's definitely receiving a big boost normal players don't get, so don't feel bad for not matching it. Yeah, it's pretty much cheating, but like I said I am addicted to hilariously good Morocco cities (my goal is to hit at least 60 pop on one).
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Were you extorting money from city states to keep solvent? When you are being a horrible monster that is essential to balance the budget. Nooooo.... that's a good idea. EDIT: For people looking for smaller Earth maps, there are Ven's(?) standard size maps. They're a lot more crowded then I enjoy though.
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A Tartan Tory posted:Talking about being a horrible monster, what civ is best for domination on a pangaea nowadays? I take it that it's the Zulu? Poland. The bottleneck on conquering isn't beating the computer. It's having enough happiness and a strong enough economy that doing so doesn't leave you worse off then where you started. Poland's extra social policies are real good for that.
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How good/useful is Japan's UA? It sounds useful but I've never really paid fullest attention to how the unit's health affects their damage.
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Do Poland's 'free' social policies increase the cost of the next culture-earned policy, or are they truly Free?
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Gabriel Pope posted:Wood? Wood is for Iroquois; the Huns build everything out of livestock. Well-polished leather automobiles ply the streets under towering skyscrapers of horseflesh HorseFLESH? ...Are the bones still present?
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SickZip posted:Poland. Yeah my biggest issue with dominance tends to be happiness but I help curb that through the commerce tree having luxries give me an extra 2 happiness each as well as all the order policies that let all your production building give you tons of happiness too, more so then autocracy and military building I believe. Also I just finally conquered the capital of the rear end in a top hat culture civ that is in everygame and have sucked up all their wonders which boost my happiness by 50 instantly. gently caress you Constantinople your poo poo is mine. (169 defense capital can take a pounding, I had 5 battleships and 5 artillery pieces and 2 bombers hitting it for several turns before its defense reached 0)
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I tried to play with Arabia to get good use out of their longer trade routes and get a good religion going. Continents Plus on a Large map, thought I'd be in a great position to do so! I found myself on my own large island with not even a city state to keep me company 
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Continents Plus is designed to shift city states off the main landmasses and onto adjacent islands and long island chains. So that automatically means a lot fewer land trade partners. If you're isolated and Arabia, then you just can't use your UA at all.
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Bloodly posted:HorseFLESH? Something's gotta hold those skyscrapers up.
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Muscle Tracer posted:Do Poland's 'free' social policies increase the cost of the next culture-earned policy, or are they truly Free? They are totally free, completely and truly free. Much like Poland itself  .
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Continents Plus is designed to shift city states off the main landmasses and onto adjacent islands and long island chains. So that automatically means a lot fewer land trade partners. If you're isolated and Arabia, then you just can't use your UA at all. If you want you can edit Continents Plus to not isolate the city states. Here's how to do it, it's very easy to do. In other news I just finished my first BNW culture win with Brazil, and I'm pretty sure that they are now by far the best culture civ. Carnivale is just insane, I was pulling over 1.5k tourism with it in the end. Coupling that with cities making GBS threads great people constantly, and only spending religion on great artists for more carnivales meant very, very frequent parties. Also noticed that you can actually have your archeologists steal other civs artifacts from their excavation sites as long as you just have open borders with them, they aren't too happy about it though!
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So what do I do if I want moar great people in early to mid game? Should I build more cities+gardens?
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I've been playing Civ since the very first iteration and know the game pretty well. I can win all sorts of ways, but one thing I cannot seem to get my head around in V is a modern war, mostly because I've never had to fight one. In my first play-through of BNW, it looks like I may have to fight one with France to get an outcome. Every time I try to fight one of these things I just get wrecked, even if my units are "better". I must be doing something wrong fundamentally. It seems like many people here have a good handle on how to manage the war side of things, so I thought I would ask for advice. I am well ahead in technology, what are the basics with regard to units, placement, etc? I cannot reach the city from the sea as it is on an interior lake I have no access to, but it is close by.
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Cowcatcher posted:So what do I do if I want moar great people in early to mid game? Should I build more cities+gardens? Wonders that give you the appropriate Great Person Points, more specialist points, more gardens, National Epic in the city that will have the most specialists.
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Cowcatcher posted:So what do I do if I want moar great people in early to mid game? Should I build more cities+gardens? Early game, the only things you can do is get the Liberty finisher and get Wonders that give you a free person. If you have Wonders with GPP though they'll start trickling in during the mid-game, and if you force specialists during the early-game you'll definitely see more people as a result. The problem is that actually doing any of that can stunt your growth unless you know what you're doing, as specialists can't provide their own food and all the buildings/wonders need significant investment to get early. In general, I tend to run low or no specialists until midway through the Renaissance, when I get the +2 science from specialists policy from the Rationalism tree. That's roughly the point where my cities are developed enough that feeding specialists is affordable, and getting extra science on top of their normal output is basically doubling their value. Saltin posted:I've been playing Civ since the very first iteration and know the game pretty well. I can win all sorts of ways, but one thing I cannot seem to get my head around in V is a modern war, mostly because I've never had to fight one. In my first play-through of BNW, it looks like I may have to fight one with France to get an outcome. Civ5 war strategy is get a big backbone of ranged attackers, with a handful of melee units to screen and actually capture cities. Modern Era means you have access to Artillery (base 3 range and Indirect Fire, it's very solid) and Bombers (awesome range, rush Air Repair as soon as possible and you can basically use them endlessly). Use your melee units to spot and absorb damage, shred anything that walks up with overlapping fields of fire, eventually bombard cities to zero and then walk in with your melee.
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