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PerrineClostermann posted:AC04 suffers from a lot of the same stuff other series transitions did. They're basically the same thing with shinier graphics and feeling a bit hollow. Armored Core 2 was like that. It was the later games in the series that really got great. Yeah I can see that, I started up AC5 almost immediately after finishing 4 and enjoyed it pretty much from the get go, haven't gotten around to finishing it yet though, seems to be one of the longer games.
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anime and cars posted:Its harder than I remembered to gun planes down, or did they make it a bit easier in 5 and 0? You are loving pro if you can gun kill stuff often in AC4, they definitely made it easier in later games. Getting the "Beat campaign with guns only" achievement in AC6 wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.
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The planes being less maneuverable in AC04 didn't help either, though I had a lot more trouble with just plowing into the ground trying to make turns I shouldn't have.
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I honestly didnt realise that AC04 was made in 2001, man that seems like such a long time ago now. Saying that I remember playing the original ace combat, which was called air combat in europe for some reason and then somehow the japanese version of ace combat 2. The worst thing about the first game was you had to input some sort of code at a loading screen or you had to fly every plane in some stupid white and flurescent blue colour scheme.
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Jul 18, 2013 01:05
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Honestly, it might be because I played so much 4 in my time as it was often the only disc I ever had when a AC itch came along, but I really loved it. The edge-of-map reload thing was actually really interesting on those giant maps like the Oil Refinery/Platforms missions, the Naval landing, or the big rear end Desert Storm style engagement towards the end. I took it as a challenge to see just how much of that poo poo I could kill before I ran out of time, and more often then not it took a lot of poo poo to hit the S rating. I remember at one point I actually cleared all 3 beaches on the Naval landing mission with about 40 seconds to spare before the A-10s showed up at the mission marker.  I didn't really find gun combat all that difficult in AC4, the hitboxes were smaller but when you got the hang of it the planes fly the same as they do in AC5 so the targeting is basically the same. There was a lot less need to really gun many planes down though in 4, it was more about killing things as fast as possible to conserve time, which generally just meant get the missile line you needed and move on. AC5 definitely was a step forward in a lot of areas, but I love AC4 just as much in the long run. If the next copy was more like either of those then AH I'd really be ecstatic. I think in AC:AH if they could take the helicopter missions and make them feel way more open ended it'd be pretty cool, kinda like a nod to the old EA Strike games. What I hated in AC:AH is that everything felt scripted, including the DFM fights. It was just so off compared to AC4 or 5 where I can approach the mission however the hell I feel like it so long as I'm blowing things up fast enough. Mazz fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jul 18, 2013 |
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Jul 18, 2013 01:19
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Avoided Assault Horizon until now but just checked on Amazon and it was $10. Can't resist any Ace Combat game for that price!
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If bombers are brought back they need to be usable at points other than right before your team loses.
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Jul 18, 2013 01:51
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<<Ridgeback One, Edge, report>>
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Until *I* can get a dog co-pilot, no ace combat game will be able to top 5.
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Skwerl posted:<<Ridgeback One, Edge, report>> So now we have AC6's aerial battleships with AC5's Edge...
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:So now we have AC6's aerial battleships with AC5's Edge... fyi, AC2 has a female wingman callsigned Edge too... So, that Edge is pretty much meaningless.
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Jul 18, 2013 02:33
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ACZero had a big gently caress-off aerial bomber as well.
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I think there was a Kei Nagase in almost every game too. I remember she was a flight attendant on that civilian escort mission in 4.
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Jul 18, 2013 02:40
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Skwerl posted:fyi, AC2 has a female wingman callsigned Edge too... new Ridge Racer game confirmed; Project Aces is developing it and this is an enormous troll
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A friend and I have a theory that the site is counting down to a reveal tomorrow. Today says Skwerl posted:<<Ridgeback One, Edge, report>> The day before was Kottos 2 And the day before was "Prepare for the third strike." 
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BillyJoeBob posted:A friend and I have a theory that the site is counting down to a reveal tomorrow. Today says "we will reset from 0 and entrust the future to the next generation" 
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Skwerl posted:"we will reset from 0 and entrust the future to the next generation" Can I use this as an opportunity to reiterate that I really wish Zero had been more like "The Belkan war: In Ulysses' Shadow"? Because sooooo much of the stupid stuff from Zero works if everyone's all depressed about a potential mass extinction event in a few years.
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Jul 18, 2013 02:52
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Started up a new AC5 playthrough and having not played an Ace Combat before 6 in a quite some time the fact that the rudder and throttle are reversed from 6 and AH is really loving with me.
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Insert name here posted:Started up a new AC5 playthrough and having not played an Ace Combat before 6 in a quite some time the fact that the rudder and throttle are reversed from 6 and AH is really loving with me. 6 had the option to swap the buttons, actually.
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Psion posted:new Ridge Racer game confirmed; Project Aces is developing it and this is an enormous troll
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homeless snail posted:Ace Kartbat, the exciting new racing game featuring all your favorite faceless callsigns from across the AC universe and their cute cartoon airplanes, with Kei Nagase playing the role of race queen. Speaking of callsigns, the biggest crime of AH's unlockable callsigns (which, in general, owned) was Antares being the top tier unlock. What kind of poo poo is that? 
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I remember feeling pretty badass when I unlocked "Razgriz." Speaking of which, I'm pumped that it looks like Nagase is back! And she's apparently a squadron leader! (If Ridgeback 1 is her.)Deeters posted:I think there was a Kei Nagase in almost every game too. I remember she was a flight attendant on that civilian escort mission in 4. My fan theory is that after she escaped Erusea, she gained asylum in Osea and joined the air force. She also makes a cameo appearance in Assault Horizon. During the first person briefings, you can see her sitting in the back. PunkBoy fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jul 18, 2013 |
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Psion posted:Speaking of callsigns, the biggest crime of AH's unlockable callsigns (which, in general, owned) was Antares being the top tier unlock. What kind of poo poo is that?
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Adun posted:Avoided Assault Horizon until now but just checked on Amazon and it was $10. I got it on steam for 5, also I just bought another copy of AC5 because my disc was unreadable
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HOTDOG posted:I got it on steam for 5, also I just bought another copy of AC5 because my disc was unreadable As did I. I got all psyched up for the worst Ace Combat and then bam, games for windows live screen. Immediate quit right there, gently caress GFWL gently caress it so hard. Hey, sign in! Now update! Ok go play.. now, wait there's another update! By the way we logged you off until you update, saving is disabled while you're logged off and a reboot is required before you can log on hahah go gently caress yourself. poo poo is almost worse than Uplay.
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NBGI europe CM's facebookquote:"Tomorrow @ 9AM (Central European Time), we will fly again. 
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Probably way too early for it, but I hope for a trailer release. Ace Combat trailers are always awesome. (Yes, I even enjoyed the AH trailers.)
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Spaceman Future! posted:As did I. I got all psyched up for the worst Ace Combat and then bam, games for windows live screen. Immediate quit right there, gently caress GFWL gently caress it so hard. Hey, sign in! Now update! Ok go play.. now, wait there's another update! By the way we logged you off until you update, saving is disabled while you're logged off and a reboot is required before you can log on hahah go gently caress yourself. poo poo is almost worse than Uplay. oh god, I know! I had to dig up my old xbl info since the last game I played on my own xbl profile was 6 (sniping with the nosferatu LOL). After that nightmare, I finally started the game and immediately set the difficulty to "ace" jumped in and couldnt even get through the tutorial mission. Seriously though, I cannot say this enough, gently caress DFM. after the fifth time I was shot down because the missile evasion mechanic was loving worthless I closed it down, uninstalled, and shudder every time I see it in my library next to DCS A10. (fantastic sim by the way.) PunkBoy posted:Probably way too early for it, but I hope for a trailer release. Ace Combat trailers are always awesome. (Yes, I even enjoyed the AH trailers.) In my opinion all the ace combat games have fantastic trailers. I was super hyped for AH until they started showing DFM gameplay.
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HOTDOG posted:oh god, I know! I had to dig up my old xbl info since the last game I played on my own xbl profile was 6 (sniping with the nosferatu LOL). After that nightmare, I finally started the game and immediately set the difficulty to "ace" jumped in and couldnt even get through the tutorial mission. Seriously though, I cannot say this enough, gently caress DFM. after the fifth time I was shot down because the missile evasion mechanic was loving worthless I closed it down, uninstalled, and shudder every time I see it in my library next to DCS A10. (fantastic sim by the way.) If you can't even get through a tutorial level which is seriously "PUSH THE BUTTON ON SCREEN" then I think the problem is you, not the game. Also you cannot set the difficulty to ace from the start; you have to clear the entire campaign on Elite first before Ace unlocks. quit trolling, buddy, you're bad at it. also Spaceman Future! I agree, GFWL is terrible. How the hell do you make it so I have to go through the login process like 3 times before you let me stay logged in? It works fine on Xbox but man it's garbage on PC. Namco why 
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Psion posted:If you can't even get through a tutorial level which is seriously "PUSH THE BUTTON ON SCREEN" then I think the problem is you, not the game. Also you cannot set the difficulty to ace from the start; you have to clear the entire campaign on Elite first before Ace unlocks. I'm not trolling, I just checked and you're right, you can't set it to ace. It's been a few months since I ragequit it so I couldn't remember. I set it to "elite". It's not that I'm bad at the game, I'm actually quite good at the parts where DFM isn't forced on me, but as soon as it told me "OK, you don't get to fly the plane anymore, you need to press all these buttons to make explosions happen", I decided that I wasn't going any further. That and I didn't have the patience to let it teach me the "line these arrows up then hit "E" to get behind that plane". I don't know, maybe I'm letting it get in the way of me finding parts of the game I can actually enjoy, but for now it's just going to sit in steam limbo until I decide to suck it up and play it on "normal" to learn the mechanics. e: I also played it with a keyboard because my USB controller is broken and I sold my 360 ages ago.
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HOTDOG posted:It's not that I'm bad at the game You literally cannot get past a tutorial level where it pauses time and waits for you to push the proper button. And it will wait forever. It is as close to an impossible to fail tutorial as can exist. And yet you are saying you failed it. I'm pretty sure that's the definition of being bad at the game.  This problem is not with Assault Horizon. It has many problems, but this one? It's uh, it's you. Sorry? Psion fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Jul 19, 2013 |
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Psion posted:You literally cannot get past a tutorial level where it pauses time and waits for you to push the proper button. And it will wait forever. It is as close to an impossible to fail tutorial as can exist. And yet you are saying you failed it. I'm pretty sure that's the definition of being bad at the game. e: nevermind, lets just say I think AH was a terrible game, I'll reinstall it someday and play through it, but for now it's going to sit in steam limbo.
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That's fine, let it sit in limbo however long you want. Your game, your choice. But I hope you don't expect anyone to take your opinion on whether it's good or bad seriously because you sure as poo poo don't know, which makes your continued insistence it's a bad game somewhat amusing.
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On an unrelated note, I have a question for the "AC4 = best AC" crowd. When was the last time you guys listened to that voice acting - I'm thinking particularly the narration in the cutscenes? 
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Psion posted:On an unrelated note, I have a question for the "AC4 = best AC" crowd. When was the last time you guys listened to that voice acting - I'm thinking particularly the narration in the cutscenes? It's not so bad. It sounds like a dude reading from a piece of paper.. because it's a dude reading from a piece of paper. Specifically, a letter addressed to Mobius 1. (why the hell am I spoilering a 12-year-old game)
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I can see why people love AC4 the most if 5's characters irked them or they didn't like how cheesy Zero could get.
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The voice acting in all the Ace combat games is one of the best things about them and I will brook no argument to the contrary. But seriously, anybody who thinks that there was anything wrong with the VA or story in any one AC game in particular needs a reality check - they're all universally bad. That's one of the reasons the series was loved, or so I thought. Even AH was pretty out there at times, and that was the only AC to have an actual writer. Course, I'm also of the opinion that even arguing that a particular Ace Combat game is bad is dumb in the first place - if you have a favorite that's fine, but they were all well-regarded by most and arguing that any one game was terrible and killed the franchise is stupid. Besides, anyone who doesn't acknowledge that Zero is the best is the proud owner of a wrong opinion 
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Psion posted:On an unrelated note, I have a question for the "AC4 = best AC" crowd. When was the last time you guys listened to that voice acting - I'm thinking particularly the narration in the cutscenes? The guy trying to sound like George Takei is my favorite.
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Psycho Landlord posted:Besides, anyone who doesn't acknowledge that Zero is the best is the proud owner of a wrong opinion I thought Zero was pretty good, though not quite as good as AC5, until I hit the final boss and realized I was literally jousting in jet fighters  I will also argue that very little, if any, of the voice acting in AC4 through Zero was bad. It's not supposed to be The Walking Dead, The Last of Us, or Bioshock Infinite. It's supposed to be goofy (the commander of Sand Island, anyone?) and it all goes to serve the tone that the individual games were going for.
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