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Kanfy posted:Gaining gold is incredibly easy now but the AIs seem to still be terrible at competing for city-states which makes for a rather unbalanced combination. Just wait until Alexander is in the game  You need 472 more influence to become this city state's ally!
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Wow, after spending hours on the tutorial I discovered that in a regular game there is a "Quick" setting, I think thats great for me, who was never able to get into Civ much. What does "world age" mean in the advanced game setup?
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Kraps posted:Wow, after spending hours on the tutorial I discovered that in a regular game there is a "Quick" setting, I think thats great for me, who was never able to get into Civ much. What does "world age" mean in the advanced game setup? It's related to erosion mostly, so flatter/bumpier.
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Verviticus posted:Or they could actually do a good job for once with the UI and make it not intrusive. Nah, just keep it out of the game Or they could just do what they already do with other players. An icon pops up on the right side of the screen then you click it when youre ready to look at the AIs offer or request.
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So how exactly does city flipping even work? I've won via culture victory on emperor and not seen any sign of anything like that happening.
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Jul 17, 2013 23:36
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Kly posted:Or they could just do what they already do with other players. An icon pops up on the right side of the screen then you click it when youre ready to look at the AIs offer or request. Yeah, this is how I'd like it to be as well. It's pretty crazy that despite all the other improvements, such a massive part of the game is still completely missing in multiplayer. At least you can actually save the game now, back when Civ V was released there was literally no option to save a multiplayer game. Had to work with autosaves, so if you played more than one game at a time, you had better have a backup copy of each game's latest autosave file. TacMan posted:So how exactly does city flipping even work? I've won via culture victory on emperor and not seen any sign of anything like that happening. There's only a chance for it to happen if someone is below -20 happiness and have a preferred ideology that differs from their current one. After that the game checks how close the capitals of civs who follow the preferred ideology are and how much pressure they're inflicting via tourism to decide who gets the flipped cities.
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TacMan posted:So how exactly does city flipping even work? I've won via culture victory on emperor and not seen any sign of anything like that happening. I think you're only likely to see it happen on lower difficulties due to happiness bonuses because the other civ's happiness needs to be under something like -20 for flips to start. Speaking of which, will the AI ever change ideology due to unhappiness? Or do they lock in for the whole game?
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Gabriel Pope posted:I don't think any civs suck outright. America is easily one of the weakest, though. Russia and the Ottomans are pretty shabby although they have their uses. France was nerfed pretty massively and may be hurting now, still remains to be seen how hard they were really hit.
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Gabriel Pope posted:I don't think any civs suck outright. America is easily one of the weakest, though. Russia and the Ottomans are pretty shabby although they have their uses. France was nerfed pretty massively and may be hurting now, still remains to be seen how hard they were really hit. Reveilled posted:Speaking of which, will the AI ever change ideology due to unhappiness? Or do they lock in for the whole game?
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How good old France was depended entirely on your game speed, +2 culture per city is a lot more on Quick than it is on Marathon.
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Hmm, does anyone know how much culture Monty gets by killing barbs if he has honor?
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A Tartan Tory posted:Hmm, does anyone know how much culture Monty gets by killing barbs if he has honor? I'm pretty sure they both give culture equal to the enemy's combat strength, so I'd wager it's twice that amount.
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Reveilled posted:Speaking of which, will the AI ever change ideology due to unhappiness? Or do they lock in for the whole game? I don't know if it was due to unhappiness, but Japan converted to Order in my last game.
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Recently completed my first Prince game.  Granted, I would have won 2 others before it if I hadn't lost interest in the modern era. However, at one point during that game I had a great general. I had enough of an advantage in combat at that point that I didn't really feel like using him. That's when I remembered a little coastal city state that was right up against the borders of 2 of my cities and well...  So that was pretty funny. Anyway I kept on destroying other civs and city states until eventually it was just me and Orlin and then unlocked the final title, which I held along with 2 others. Just before that happened though, I managed to crank out one final great general.     I really hope that BNW goes back on sale on the last day of the summer sale.
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Shoshone start with 4 pathfinders on Emperor. I know this because I ran across them on turn 5. That's not even fair.
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limeincoke posted:Shoshone start with 4 pathfinders on Emperor. I know this because I ran across them on turn 5. That's not even fair. And you can't even rush them because of their bonus defence in home territory and extra 8 tiles of home territory at the start.
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Jul 18, 2013 00:24
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Reveilled posted:Speaking of which, will the AI ever change ideology due to unhappiness? Or do they lock in for the whole game? I got Germany to tear down the wall! They had -19 before I rammed freedom through the world congress and then for 1 turn had like -37 then they quickly switched to freedom.
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Jul 18, 2013 00:33
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Being able to rename the World Congress is the greatest feature ever.Some other civ posted:Your recent proposal to the Chinese Appreciation Society is not in our best interests! Yeah? No poo poo, son. 
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Jul 18, 2013 00:43
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I enjoy naming my world congress WRESTLEMANIA with increasing roman numerals.
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I've conquered capitals for a lot of reasons, but today I took one away because the AI made me sad. It was the Inca. Their start consisted of a city next to a river, surrounded by hills on both sides of the river, with an outer ring of mountains. I thought I took a screenshot but it wasn't there--but instead of the unbelivable powerhouse gigantic thing it could have been, the AI only built mines. Not a single terrace farm. They could have pumped that city up to over 30 pop before even getting to the industrial era if they wanted to. I was so disappointed I committed genocide.
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Geokinesis posted:I got Germany to tear down the wall! Yeah Russia was sticking stubbornly to Order while their cities flipped to me but eventually they caved and adopted Freedom like the rest of the club. Shoshone went order as well, and lasted one turn (at -48 happiness) before switching to freedom.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I enjoy naming my world congress WRESTLEMANIA with increasing roman numerals. Ahaha I am doing this from now on. I also once renamed mine "Bunga Bunga Party Time" so that was pretty fun.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I enjoy naming my world congress WRESTLEMANIA with increasing roman numerals. I named it DIE HARD in my recent game as Shaka. 
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Kly posted:Or they could just do what they already do with other players. An icon pops up on the right side of the screen then you click it when youre ready to look at the AIs offer or request. Yeah, that was what I was thinking. There are plenty of ways to go about it, but it's a lot easier for them to just ignore MP.
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So I started a new game as Shaka since I hadn't played him yet and felt like going for a domination victory. Started in a nice looking desert and started working on getting a pantheon going while exploring. I found the Fountain of Youth about 10 tiles from my capital. I think I'm going to enjoy this very much.   Edit: Lets make this even more ridiculous and add in Mt Kilimanjaro about 10 tiles north of that. 
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You have stumbled upon everything needed for the greatest raw army possible 
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Looks like Rome is up there, so you might notice a slight speed bump as you roll over them on the way to it.
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Would Babylon do good with two cities feeding each other food and working as many science specialists as possible for an early tech lead? E: I was thinking three archers per city and the Walls of Babylon should be more than enough to defend against jealous jerks. Pvt.Scott fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jul 18, 2013 |
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If a civ is forced to change their ideology you will know it because the message will say the X people have risen up and overthrown their leaders.
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Yes, this is a joke by people who don't know how to play the game and animated in a different game but dammit if it didn't get a chuckle out of me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSBgxzraTo EDIT: AKA the Education Rush Triskelli fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Jul 18, 2013 |
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Tulip posted:So other than America, who sucks? CivFanatics is profoundly unhelpful because there are people who thought that Arabia was the weakest civ pre-BNW. Sweden is easily the second‐worst civ. Their are people who will defend gifting great people, but all things considered, it’s pretty weak. Yeah, you can gift admirals and generals, yeah, you can gift capture or almost spent great prophets, but how many of those will you really have to give, especially early in the game when it’s most important? Their bonus to GP generation is nice, but it’s basically the difference between a garden or not, and I don’t exactly prioritize gardens. Remember, +30% GP generation doesn’t mean 30% more great people. Each one is more expensive than the last, so you’ll get each GP 30% faster, but you’ll end up with maybe two extra in the end. The Hakkapeliitta is perhaps the worst UU in the game. Caroleans are pretty great, but they’re not enough to save Sweden on their own.
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When does the world congress become the UN? (Is it 1945?)
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Geokinesis posted:When does the world congress become the UN? (Is it 1945?) Whenever the world hits the... Modern era, I think? Maybe Atomic.
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Kyrosiris posted:Whenever the world hits the... Modern era, I think? Maybe Atomic. Ok I hope so as I have to say playing Venice is getting tedious, I miss being able to do stuff in my other cities. I'm pretty much paying everyone to go to war whilst I get gifted military so I'm untouchable for now. Edit: By world do you mean whole world? FairyNuff fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Jul 18, 2013 |
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What are some good OCC civs and strategies to go with? Don't have BNW yet.
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Geokinesis posted:Ok I hope so as I have to say playing Venice is getting tedious, I miss being able to do stuff in my other cities. I'm pretty much paying everyone to go to war whilst I get gifted military so I'm untouchable for now. I like Venice's concept but yeah only actually controlling one city feels tedious as heck. 
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Geokinesis posted:By world do you mean whole world? It’s atomic, and either one half of the civs have to hit it (rounded down), or one civ has to reach the Information Era.
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Geokinesis posted:Ok I hope so as I have to say playing Venice is getting tedious, I miss being able to do stuff in my other cities. I'm pretty much paying everyone to go to war whilst I get gifted military so I'm untouchable for now. The World Congress advances to a particular era whenever half the world's civilizations reach it, or one civilization reaches the one immediately after. So if one civ has a huge tech lead and reaches the Renaissance era when most civs are still in the Classical era, it will still advance to the Medieval era.
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Triskelli posted:Yes, this is a joke by people who don't know how to play the game and animated in a different game but dammit if it didn't get a chuckle out of me. Wow. That's great.
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Caesar just came and complained to me about "petty politics" after a UN proposal. Caesar. 
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