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Last year sometime there were faux-local Bank of America ads on the sides of Muni shelters referring to "the Muni" and "the BART". They fooled no one.
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I listen to a radio station in Los Angeles because my local station, KYNS, dropped The Stephanie Miller Show. Every now and then they have a commercial where whatever business is "just off the I-10" and I want to punch whatever out-of-state agency did it. It's like somebody burst into the recording booth and said, "Wait! Add 'the' before the freeway!"
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Jul 19, 2013 23:23
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I think I will use "the" in front of every highway name until I die, it is too ingrained in my brain at this point to stop. Eventually the rest of humanity to have to learn to conform. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jul 20, 2013 |
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Jul 19, 2013 23:34
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As far as I'm concerned "the" always goes in front of the names of a freeways, highways, and interstates. The PCH. The 101. The 118. The 405.
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Jul 19, 2013 23:47
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As far as I'm concerned, "the" never goes in front of the names of freeways, highways, and interstates.
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Jul 19, 2013 23:50
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Well, we can either have a Jets/Sharks style musical gang fight to decide who's right or we can drop the dumbest derail ever over the use of "the" before highway names. The food derails are better than this. e: VVV Where else? How about here - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3032518 e2: Times like this make me wish I were a mod. MAKE IT STOP! WampaLord fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jul 20, 2013 |
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Jul 19, 2013 23:58
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WampaLord posted:Well, we can either have a Jets/Sharks style musical gang fight to decide who's right or we can drop the dumbest derail ever over the use of "the" before highway names. It's not a derail, because this is a specifically California argument and this is the California Megathread. Where else would we argue about this? Putting "the" in front is redundant and unnecessary! That's why it's dumb. 
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Jul 20, 2013 00:03
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Leperflesh posted:It's not a derail, because this is a specifically California argument and this is the California Megathread. Where else would we argue about this? To me, it just sounds more forceful and clear, ultimately it is because freeways are so important to life in LA that it is almost a honorific. You must properly honor the great 405, for it controls life and death.
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Jul 20, 2013 00:08
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This was settled by the definitive movie about LA: Sharknado. Drunk guy explicitly says that "take the 10 to the 405".
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Jul 20, 2013 00:17
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My specific problem with that commercial is that it says both "the" and "I" instead of just "the 10." Edit: Then the traffic reports on that station say stuff like "the 10 Santa Monica Freeway." Also it has fake helicopter noise in the background that doesn't last long enough and fades out before the guy is done talking.
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Jul 20, 2013 00:19
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WampaLord posted:Well, we can either have a Jets/Sharks style musical gang fight to decide who's right or we can drop the dumbest derail ever over the use of "the" before highway names. It's just a funny discrepancy between how people from different parts of California speak, nobody is really being serious. The whole subject of the California accent/dialect is a funny one in and of itself, too: http://news.stanford.edu/news/2012/august/california-dialect-linguistics-080612.html Vivian Darkbloom posted:Whaaat? Demonstrators deliberately hurt by riot cops sounds like some repression to me. Bizarro Watt fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Jul 20, 2013 |
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Jul 20, 2013 00:20
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Leperflesh posted:It sounds hella-stupid, though. I've never heard anyone say that out loud around here, I don't think. Then again, I've never heard anyone from around here refer to each other as "bro". Maybe I'm just old and out of touch. Get off my lawn!
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Jul 20, 2013 00:45
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Isn't this a NorCal/SoCal thing? Because in SF it's 101 and 280, and LA it's basically The Californians.
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Jul 20, 2013 00:49
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I moved to the Bay Area from the Northeast. There, we generally just say the road name, sometimes with the "I" in front if it's an interstate, or "route" if it's a state route. "5 and 10", "I-91", "Route 22". I still do the same here, except...for some reason I frequently call Rt 1/PCN "the 1" because for some reason saying "I drove on 1" or "I took 1 from Santa Cruz to Monterey" sounds funny - in a way that "I took 680 to the South Bay" doesn't. tl;dr SoCal is the odd man out here I think. hella
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bitprophet posted:I still do the same here, except...for some reason I frequently call Rt 1/PCN "the 1" because for some reason saying "I drove on 1" or "I took 1 from Santa Cruz to Monterey" sounds funny - in a way that "I took 680 to the South Bay" doesn't. We always say "highway 1" for exactly that reason. Nobody says "I drove up 1", they say "I drove up Highway 1, it was beautiful." Interesting exception, I think. Actually I think I use the same convention for Highway 4. Maybe it applies to roads with lower numbers of digits because they could be confused with local roads? mr. unhsib posted:Isn't this a NorCal/SoCal thing? Because in SF it's 101 and 280, and LA it's basically The Californians. Yeah: Leperflesh posted:And if you're in LA, you say "The 101" but if you're in the Bay Area, you just say "101" without the "the." As in, "To get to San Francisco from the Airport, just drive up 101." The convention down south (probably everything south of SLO?) is "the", but northern Californians (and especially in the Bay Area) omit it.
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Jul 20, 2013 01:11
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EBT posted:Even prices in the (lovely) east bay are crazy. My asbestos packed apartment went up 250 dollars/month this year. At least you don't have to worry about the place catching on fire.
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Jul 20, 2013 01:14
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The bigger question is: when the great California civil war comes, how far north will we choose to exterminate? Im kind of fond of SLO, maybe everything south of arroyo grande? Maybe that tunnel on 101 should mark the boundary.
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Jul 20, 2013 01:22
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Leperflesh posted:Nobody says "I drove up 1" I do. So does my family.
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Jul 20, 2013 01:35
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GrumpyDoctor posted:I do. So does my family. Same here. Even saying PCH is kind of a socal thing.
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GrumpyDoctor posted:I do. So does my family. Well I guess that makes you guys nobodies.
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Jul 20, 2013 01:52
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Willa Rogers posted:One of the reasons I'm planning on moving out of state soon is that I want to buy a home for my retirement, and the r.e. market here is nuts.
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Jul 20, 2013 02:06
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Leperflesh posted:The convention down south (probably everything south of SLO?) is "the", but northern Californians (and especially in the Bay Area) omit it. As a SoCal-to-NorCal emigre I've been told on more than one occasion that I've been instantly made as a southerner because of the "the" I put in front of freeway numbers.
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Jul 20, 2013 02:09
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Very occasionally you'll hear a radio announcer in the SF area refer to a highway by a proper name, like "the Nimitz Freeway" for I-880.
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Jul 20, 2013 02:14
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Miss-Bomarc posted:Very occasionally you'll hear a radio announcer in the SF area refer to a highway by a proper name, like "the Nimitz Freeway" for I-880. That's very Chicago of them.
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Jul 20, 2013 02:15
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Ardennes posted:I think I will use "the" in front of every highway name until I die, it is too ingrained in my brain at this point to stop.  Ardennes posted:You must properly honor the great 405, for it controls life and death. Leperflesh posted:but northern Californians (and especially in the Bay Area) omit it.
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Jul 20, 2013 02:19
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rope kid posted:I'm originally from Wisconsin and I wound up buying a house for my parents to live in (there) back in 2005. I thought maybe CA prices would come down into an affordable range after the crash but... nope! At this rate, I'll never own a home in CA and may one day wind up heading back to WI. Oh there plenty of places with affordable housing in CA, it's just in places you don't want to live. You can get a brand new 5 bedroom home in Victorville for less than $100k!
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Jul 20, 2013 02:44
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rope kid posted:I'm originally from Wisconsin and I wound up buying a house for my parents to live in (there) back in 2005. I thought maybe CA prices would come down into an affordable range after the crash but... nope! At this rate, I'll never own a home in CA and may one day wind up heading back to WI. I'm moving from Wisconsin to the bay area and this is honestly the first time I've ever felt comfortable with the prospect of buying something. Stability and options seem to be worth it. krysmopompas fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jul 20, 2013 |
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Jul 20, 2013 02:52
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Wait, there are other ways to talk about freeways without adding 'the' in front?
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krysmopompas posted:Yeah, but consider the downsides to Wisconsin - you have a grand total of 1 possible employer unless you retire, change industries, or do your own thing (good luck hiring.) It's easy to buy but not exactly easy to sell a place, or even rent it. So once you get laid off you're moving to another state, and you might be sitting on another mortgage for 4 years. So you made millions of dollars in Wisconsin?
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Even I, from humble Asheville NC, know that no "the" is involved with the names of highways unless the word "memorial" is also involved.
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Jul 20, 2013 03:02
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Thanatosian posted:I'm also from NorCal, and I hella still say hella, regardless of where I'm currently living. Hecka is so much more fun.
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Jul 20, 2013 03:03
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etalian posted:So you made millions of dollars in Wisconsin?
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Papercut posted:Hecka is so much more fun. "And as a friend of this state, let me just say when you leave this state... don't tell people where you're from"
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Papercut posted:Hecka is so much more fun. "Hell of" is my preferred version, but I never said hella in the first place
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It's weird. I moved out to SoCal last fall, and when I talk about roads with people from back home it's always "I5" and "I805", but when I talk to people here it's "the 5" and "the 805". I am a linguistic chameleon, though my perfect non-regional diction probably gives me away.
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Jul 20, 2013 03:58
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krysmopompas posted:You don't need millions of dollars in Oakland. It's reasonably priced and exciting for most neighborhoods.
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RandomPauI posted:The PCH. Huh-what? Numbered roads get 'the,' but PCH is just PCH. Might be 'cuz it's a surface street in my hometown though.
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krysmopompas posted:You don't need millions of dollars in Oakland. Of course, there are reasons why those places are several notches cheaper than media Bay Area prices...
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FMguru posted:Or East Palo Alto, or Vallejo, or Richmond, or Fairfield... They help people stay car-free?
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Oakland is a pretty big place, if you don't want to live in the equivalent of Richmond or Vallejo then you don't have to.
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