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Precambrian posted:Hello, ADTRW! Don't watch Eva - or not for this reason, anyway - but Gurren Lagann is a safe bet. Pacific Rim also drew on monster films, and there's a thread on those in Cinema Discusso. I've just finished watching Trigun and felt the last third or so was very rushed - is the manga better in this respect? And is there another series whose director was so addicted to symmetrical compositions, or was I just seeing things?
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It's not set in a high school, but you should watch Martian Successor Nadesico anyway because it's a ridiculously fun deconstruction of the Giant Robot Anime. Hell, I should re-watch that show. I think I'll start that this weekend. As for more specifically what you asked for, I'd nth Full Metal Panic and Code Geass.
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Fenrir posted:It's not set in a high school, but you should watch Martian Successor Nadesico anyway because it's a ridiculously fun deconstruction of the Giant Robot Anime. Hell, I should re-watch that show. I think I'll start that this weekend. He hasn't even watched a single robot anime yet, why would he want it deconstructed.
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House Louse posted:Don't watch Eva - or not for this reason, anyway - but Gurren Lagann is a safe bet. Pacific Rim also drew on monster films, and there's a thread on those in Cinema Discusso. Trigun+Trigun Maximum is 17 volumes (3+14), and the anime only uses material from the first 3 or so. I vastly prefer how things go in the manga compared to the anime, but Nightow's art during action scenes ranges from "what?" to "complete incomprehensible clusterfuck".
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Full Metal Panic is definitely one of the more high school-y giant robot animes out there, to the point that it has an entire season with barely any robots in it.RubberLuffy posted:Trigun+Trigun Maximum is 17 volumes (3+14), and the anime only uses material from the first 3 or so. I vastly prefer how things go in the manga compared to the anime, but Nightow's art during action scenes ranges from "what?" to "complete incomprehensible clusterfuck". I really want them to give the Hellsing Ultimate treatment to Trigun for exactly this reason. Nightow makes some fine designs but yikes he really has the tendency to completely fall apart in some action scenes. I kinda wonder if the recent Trigun movie was testing the waters for such a project.
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I almost wish Gatoh hadn't wasted his cool setting on high school hijinks in FMP but whatever. Chidori's a pretty cool character all things said.
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I couldn't see a more appropriate thread for trying to identify an old anime film, so here's my question: I remember watching a film before 1996 that featured an armoured train, large holographic projections and an Aryan looking fella with glasses and blonde hair (who I think was the villain). I have no idea what the plot was; I can only recall some images and I'm curious to see it again.
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Paracelsus posted:Evangelion is Giant Robot Middle School. No, Evangelion is Giant Robot Special Needs School. Angels are the various crippling disabilities and psychoses that everyone suffers.
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Jul 20, 2013 05:10
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Eva rules but as much as Pacific Rim draws from it, it is a very very very different thang. Full Metal Panic is a pretty good recommendation, despite the gonzo last arc.
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cisneros posted:He hasn't even watched a single robot anime yet, why would he want it deconstructed. I recommended it more for the lighthearted comedy factor. It's a really fun show even if you've never watched giant robot shows before.
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Fenrir posted:I recommended it more for the lighthearted comedy factor. It's a really fun show even if you've never watched giant robot shows before. Nadesco is a pretty good one, honestly. And it's deconstructing giant robot anime 15 years ago. It works pretty well as a stand alone even if you know very little about giant robot poo poo. (I have a friend who loved that for years and years and years and it was like the only anime he ever watched.) Incidentally, I didn't care for the movie when I first watched it about a decade ago, but rewatching the series and the movie about a year ago and it was really cool. I've noticed a lot of movie sequels don't hit unless you are invested in the characters. I hated the second ghost in the shell movie for a long time before I watched Gits SAC and got to know the characters better, and then the glimpses of the secondary characters was a lot more fun and the movie overall felt stronger. DamnGlitch fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Jul 20, 2013 |
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Jul 20, 2013 06:12
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Captain Invictus posted:No, Evangelion is Giant Robot Special Needs School.
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Jul 20, 2013 08:01
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I've been out of the anime loop for years, can someone point me towards a good psychological thriller or Kafkaesque anime? I love relatively realistic characters dealing with strange situations, like Paranoia Agent and Satoshi Kon's movies. Scifi with a heavy mood or noir styling is great too, like Cowboy Bebop, Darker than Black, and Big O.
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Jul 20, 2013 22:47
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Try Texhnolyze. At least get through the first two or three episodes unless you immediately abhor it in every way, it's really strange and I love it.
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Analytic Engine posted:I've been out of the anime loop for years, can someone point me towards a good psychological thriller or Kafkaesque anime? I've been enjoying Daughter of 20 Faces. It's...well, I think it fits this. (Plus, there are cameos by the Ratte and the Spruce Goose.)
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muike posted:Try Texhnolyze. At least get through the first two or three episodes unless you immediately abhor it in every way, it's really strange and I love it. Texhnolyze is indeed fantastic and has great characters. I'd describe it as a an exploration of human ideologies which are represented by the different characters and groups. The storytelling is fantastic and its really well directed. It can be rather boring at times because of its focus, but never uninteresting. Also the ED song is amazing and I listened to it every time. e: In response to the Pacific Rim poster, you would love Eva for the Mecha vs Monster battle aspects of it. It has awkward romances and hallway fights aplenty. I think the movie was loosely based on a scrapped live action script for Eva, so it makes sense that they would be similar. There is that other side of Eva that you may find less interesting, or at worst grating, but that would be more of a preference thing. I say this having come home from watching it about half an hour ago and it was literally mecha anime the movie a la Hollywood. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Jul 20, 2013 |
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Jul 20, 2013 23:40
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Analytic Engine posted:I've been out of the anime loop for years, can someone point me towards a good psychological thriller or Kafkaesque anime? If Kafka isn't too Kafkaesque, there's Inaka Isha, an adaptation of A Country Doctor. It's just one episode, but it's worth a lot of I Don't Watch Much Anime But points.
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Jul 20, 2013 23:59
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Analytic Engine posted:Scifi with a heavy mood or noir styling is great too, like Cowboy Bebop, Darker than Black, and Big O. Psycho-Pass is a fantastic cyberpunk setting with rather dark story and tones. It isn't Urobuchi's best, compared to Fate/Zero and Madoka Magica, but it's still a great piece. By recommending cyberpunk I'm also obligated to recommend Ghost in the Shell, but it's more philosophical than heavy. It is still one of the most solid shows out there and has a fantastic cyberpunk setting with great writing and animation.
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Mors Rattus posted:I've been enjoying Daughter of 20 Faces. It's...well, I think it fits this. Fair warning: Daughter of 20 faces goes sour fast, like after a single-digit number of episodes, and it's bad enough that I wouldn't lump it in with the examples given.
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Thanks, goons. I've heard of Code Geas and Guren Lagan, but there was a whole lot of good suggestions. Turns out my thinking was right, Giant Robot Teenagers has a lot of anime, and I was just bad at reading the wiki. Not a problem, though, seems like there's a lot worth checking out. Now, I have to see what I can track down and then watch it.
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Analytic Engine posted:I've been out of the anime loop for years, can someone point me towards a good psychological thriller or Kafkaesque anime? Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei, the Kafkaest anime.
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Jul 21, 2013 02:57
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ViggyNash posted:e: In response to the Pacific Rim poster, you would love Eva for the Mecha vs Monster battle aspects of it. It has awkward romances and hallway fights aplenty. I think the movie was loosely based on a scrapped live action script for Eva, so it makes sense that they would be similar. There is that other side of Eva that you may find less interesting, or at worst grating, but that would be more of a preference thing. No, this is a internet rumor, Guillermo del Toro has never even seen Evangelion. (Or at least hadn't at the time of an interview after Pacific Rim had completed filming.)
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:No, this is a internet rumor, Guillermo del Toro has never even seen Evangelion. (Or at least hadn't at the time of an interview after Pacific Rim had completed filming.) I've gotta speak to my buddy about these lies he's feeding me. Even so, this movie is definitely mecha anime a la Hollywood, and a drat good one at that. The general storyline was pretty generic and definitely did not have any of Eva's philosophical/psychological nature, but pretty much every other aspect of the movie could be related almost 1:1 to Eva in some way. It had a lot of surprising and fascinating elements to it that would make for a drat good mecha anime if any studio was arsed to make one based directly off of it.
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As a dude who has seen more mecha animes than he should, I can safely say that most if not all Eva similarities in the film were less Eva-specific and more "stuff that older mecha/kaiju shows did that Eva paid homage to". I can easily believe that Guillermo Del Toro has never seen Eva. He did namedrop Tetsujin-28 and Patlabor as influences though. And there was some stuff that was probably Mazinger related (I know there's a pretty big Spanish-speaking fandom for Mazinger even today so I wouldn't be surprised if he saw that as a kid). To keep this on-topic, I didn't think about it until typing it just now since Patlabor isn't a highschool anime, but it does have a rather colorful cast that can kinda fit that "Giant Robot High" request, so I say go with that! Srice fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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RubberLuffy posted:Trigun+Trigun Maximum is 17 volumes (3+14), and the anime only uses material from the first 3 or so. I vastly prefer how things go in the manga compared to the anime, but Nightow's art during action scenes ranges from "what?" to "complete incomprehensible clusterfuck". No wonder it felt incoherent...
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The Black Stones posted:If you're looking for teen sex comedy type anime, there's always B Gata H Kei as well (also called Yamada's First Time for the Funimation release). A question though, how were they able to get away with that much nudity and sexual stuff in Shonen Jump? I thought that magazine was for stuff like One Piece and Bleach and poo poo. How did a nigh-uncensored sex comedy get in there? Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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RubberLuffy posted:Trigun+Trigun Maximum is 17 volumes (3+14), and the anime only uses material from the first 3 or so. I vastly prefer how things go in the manga compared to the anime, but Nightow's art during action scenes ranges from "what?" to "complete incomprehensible clusterfuck". Out of curiosity, where's the actual branching point of Maximum and the anime? I'm guessing it's somewhere around when the Gung-Ho Guns turn up?
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Analytic Engine posted:I've been out of the anime loop for years, can someone point me towards a good psychological thriller or Kafkaesque anime? Well, for a psychological thriller it doesn't get much better than Monster.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Out of curiosity, where's the actual branching point of Maximum and the anime? I'm guessing it's somewhere around when the Gung-Ho Guns turn up? It starts branching right after the time skip, though things play out similarly for a period of time, and there have been minor differences from the beginning (sort of like how the first FMA was mostly the same at the beginning, while also killing off characters or changing around the timeframe for its story). In all honesty though, I really liked how the anime went about resolving everything even if it seems rushed. It's one of those rare cases where the anime still kept to the same themes and story of the manga despite catching up, and having an ending that felt right rather than half-assed or outta nowhere. Apparently the anime's ending influenced Nightow's manga ending too. That and I tend to prefer Wolfwood's anime arc over his manga arc.
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Thanks for all the suggestions, I have a lot to see!
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I thought the stuff with legato was way more poignant in the anime, though the manga is so so much better and well developed by the end. The end is just abrupt and awful in the anime. A clip show for the final episode is really shameful. I love the anime though. It's one of those things that flavors and spices the manga, and I wish it would get a complete adaptation. Shame the animation and music wouldn't be the same though.
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I really, really loved Mononoke's sense of style (and everything else about it). And though I didn't stick with the Flower of Eden anime, I really dug the extensive rotoscoping. What are some other anime series that experiment with the art direction? I don't care about the genre.
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Saturday Mornings posted:I really, really loved Mononoke's sense of style (and everything else about it). And though I didn't stick with the Flower of Eden anime, I really dug the extensive rotoscoping. What are some other anime series that experiment with the art direction? I don't care about the genre. Gankutsuou, Bakemonogatari, Panty and Stocking, Katanagatari, and Kaiba come to mind.
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Saturday Mornings posted:I really, really loved Mononoke's sense of style (and everything else about it). And though I didn't stick with the Flower of Eden anime, I really dug the extensive rotoscoping. What are some other anime series that experiment with the art direction? I don't care about the genre. I find the most helpful answer to this question is to name directors, rather than individual series. Look into the works of Satoshi Kon, Masaaki Yuasa, Hiroyuki Imaishi, Akiyuki Shinbo, and Kenji Nakamura. (This overlaps significantly with Redcrimson's list.)
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I have not watched Neon Genesis Evangelion. Should I? Are the reboots good as well?
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RebBrownies posted:I have not watched Neon Genesis Evangelion. Should I? Are the reboots good as well? Yes, yes, and they aren't reboots.
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RebBrownies posted:I have not watched Neon Genesis Evangelion. Should I? Are the reboots good as well? You should probably watch it if only for its importance in anime culture overall. Really, everyone has their opinion of the show and its characters, but what I can say is that there's far more effort put into the story, characters, and scenes than most shows you're going to find today. Despite it being pretty old at this point, it remains unique. The reboots are great but they should only be watched after the show.
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RebBrownies posted:I have not watched Neon Genesis Evangelion. Should I? Are the reboots good as well? The rebuilds are really good, especially compared to the early episodes of the series. I would say you'd get more out of them if you watch the series and End of Eva, first, though.
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RebBrownies posted:I have not watched Neon Genesis Evangelion. Should I? Are the reboots good as well? I'll parrot what everyone else posted. Suffice to say, there's a reason people still talk about Eva 15 years after it has finished airing. Not that Eva doesn't have it flaws, boy does it ever, but it is certainly a seminal work in our little medium. You should probably watch it at least once.
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At the very least, Eva has lots of beyond amazing action sequences that, combined with the vivid art, make for some of the best mindless entertainment there is. As a whole it has its flaws sure, but it's something everyone should see at least once. And the Rebuild series is HIGHLY recommended, but not as a replacement for everything else. It doesn't matter if you watch the series/movies and then Rebuild or vice versa.
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