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spankmeister posted:The 12-35 is very sexy but way over my budget for a "starter" lens IMHO. Well that's assuming you want a zoom, otherwise just stick to primes. I bought my OMD with just a 25/1.4 and that's pretty much the lens on my OMD 99% of the time. The 1% is the 60/2.8 macro which is mainly for macro and added reach if needed. If you want a walkaround lens, you can't go wrong with either the 17/1.8 or 20/1.7. Just note that there have been reported issues of banding with the 20/1.7 so hopefully the mk II version coming out soon fixes that.
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I don't understand why they put that interface in the nex stuff when the rx100 has a normal and actually very nice menu system. Surely if it makes sense in a point and shoot it'd be worth putting on more capable ilc bodies.
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Can you not still put all the basic functions on custom buttons and like a half dozen more on the custom menu?
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spankmeister posted:As for other lenses: I want to at least get the parted out panny 14 from eBay just because it's cheap. Then later the 20/1.7 (gotta love them fast primes) It's a shame that the 14mm is so cheap as it makes the 20mm feel like it is expensive -when the reality is that my EF-S lenses cost so much more and I didn't really hesitate with them.
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Anyone still looking for an EF M adapter: http://www.ebay.com/itm/11110934842...fepn=5337259887 Just accepted an offer of $90. They sold over 100~ of them and they appear to be legit OEM ones.
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Beastruction posted:Can you not still put all the basic functions on custom buttons and like a half dozen more on the custom menu? I kind of exaggerate how bad it is, because I've got most of the controls within one or two keypresses on my 5N. It's stuff like a man in front of a mountain to indicate opening the aperture and a man in front of a grayed out mountain to indicated closing the aperture. If I'm looking at my screen I have absolutely no idea what the gently caress that means without having to think about it. If it just said +/- f-stop or something I wouldn't have to hunt for what mode my jog dial is in if I dig it out of my bag. It's like 1001 little things that make it frustrating to look at and use. I can't argue that maybe it's better for beginner shooters, and I don't begrudge anyone wanting pictures to illustrate functions, but at least give us some kind of "semi pro" mode that isn't pictorial. NEX is a fantastic camera with a literal point and shoot menu system.
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Martytoof posted:I kind of exaggerate how bad it is, because I've got most of the controls within one or two keypresses on my 5N. It's stuff like a man in front of a mountain to indicate opening the aperture and a man in front of a grayed out mountain to indicated closing the aperture. If I'm looking at my screen I have absolutely no idea what the gently caress that means without having to think about it. If it just said +/- f-stop or something I wouldn't have to hunt for what mode my jog dial is in if I dig it out of my bag. I'm pretty sure the -c3 shipped with one of the function keys on the back set to the help menu by default.
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Hmm, Olympus has a kit with the OM-D, Battery grip, 2 batteries and the 12-50 for €1350 Now if I go body-only and get the accessories separately, the price sans lens is 1190. So the 12-50 would cost me €160 extra. Meh lens or not, that can't be a bad deal.
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spankmeister posted:Hmm, Olympus has a kit with the OM-D, Battery grip, 2 batteries and the 12-50 for €1350 Depends on how often you expect to use the 12-50, otherwise that 160 can go towards another lens.
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Jul 18, 2013 07:32
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I'd get it just for the decent macro mode.
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It is a really flexible lens. It's just not super good at any task.
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Mr. Despair posted:It is a really flexible lens. It's just not super good at any task. Echoes of so many performance reviews in my past 
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If you're looking for a used X100, I just listed mine in the BST thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3125105&pagenumber=154#post417601570
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Finally getting to try a C-Biogon 35mm ZM lens I've had adapted to my X-Pro1 on an M9. Holy crap - the combination has really nice contrast and colour pop. The M9 seems pretty limited when you compare it against something like the X-Pro1, but man, the colour out of that camera...
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krooj posted:Finally getting to try a C-Biogon 35mm ZM lens I've had adapted to my X-Pro1 on an M9. Holy crap - the combination has really nice contrast and colour pop. The M9 seems pretty limited when you compare it against something like the X-Pro1, but man, the colour out of that camera... I love my c-biogon 2.8 on my nex, but am considering selling it (along with all my NEX gear and adapted lenses, and my Bessa R2A) to fund a fuji switch.
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Mr. Despair posted:I too think that canon will continue to make poor decisions until Ricoh/Pentax replace them as the number 2 camera company in the world. We were all wrong. Hasselblad knocks it out of the park. http://thenewcamera.com/hasselblad-stellar-rx100-camera-will-cost-you-2k-to-3k/
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quote:cost you from $1600 to $3200 (cost depend upon the type of grip material used) I can't help but read that as "the grip could cost up to $1600".
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For people who have the EOS M + pancake combo, I got this 43mm 3 stop Polaroid neutral density filter for $1! from Amazon. Free shipping. I got it today and it seem to work fine. You have to set custom white balance but thats it. One dallaz. 
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whatever7 posted:For people who have the EOS M + pancake combo, I got this 43mm 3 stop Polaroid neutral density filter for $1! from Amazon. Free shipping. Ive had good luck with that brand too for my ND and VariND needs. Shockingly cheap and good. The 8stop-vari has little color issue, and can be fixed by the XE1's jpg engine.
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Studebaker Hawk posted:I love my c-biogon 2.8 on my nex, but am considering selling it (along with all my NEX gear and adapted lenses, and my Bessa R2A) to fund a fuji switch. Do you find the focusing stiff at all once you reach infinity or 0.7m? I bought my copy used, and I've read that these Zeiss lenses eventually loosen up with use, but I'm thinking if it doesn't I should have it serviced. It also has minor, minor internal dust.
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whatever7 posted:For people who have the EOS M + pancake combo, I got this 43mm 3 stop Polaroid neutral density filter for $1! from Amazon. Free shipping. Thanks bro. Just bought one
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Well I've got to say, the high ISO performance of the RX1 is simply astounding. This is a shot taken at ISO 25600, with some NR applied in LR5:
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alkanphel posted:Well I've got to say, the high ISO performance of the RX1 is simply astounding. I agree. When I shoot with it I pretty much think about the aperture and shutter speed I want and whatever ISO works with that is fine.
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That's gotta be freeing. I feel safe going up to 1600 with my X-E1, where with my Canon T2i I was afraid of going over 400. Shooting clouds is a lot more sensitive than shooting almost anything else, unfortunately.
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When I started picking up photography I was using a Nikon D70 which came out in 2003 with a max ISO setting of 1600; I was blown away when ISO 3200 was usable when I got an X100. Not only that but double the megapixels. 
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I regularly shoot at 6400 and 12800 with my NEX 5N. I can't even imagine going back to my 40D that maxed out at 3200 and was pretty marginal at that speed. I hope the ISO wars never end.
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HPL posted:I regularly shoot at 6400 and 12800 with my NEX 5N. I can't even imagine going back to my 40D that maxed out at 3200 and was pretty marginal at that speed. I hope the ISO wars never end. Ha I well.remember my 40d, 3200.was quite horrible. Now I have no worries shooting 6400 on my Fuji.
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RustedChrome posted:I agree. When I shoot with it I pretty much think about the aperture and shutter speed I want and whatever ISO works with that is fine. Yeah, the good ISO performance of most modern cameras makes auto-ISO so much more feasible now that I almost never set the ISO anymore. HPL posted:I regularly shoot at 6400 and 12800 with my NEX 5N. I can't even imagine going back to my 40D that maxed out at 3200 and was pretty marginal at that speed. I hope the ISO wars never end. Haha I started photography on a 40D and I didn't even dare to go above ISO 800 with it. And back then, NR in LR wasn't as magical as it is now.
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HPL posted:I regularly shoot at 6400 and 12800 with my NEX 5N. I can't even imagine going back to my 40D that maxed out at 3200 and was pretty marginal at that speed. I hope the ISO wars never end. The first time I shot 3200 on my 5N I had to go back and make sure I hadn't accidentally set it to 800 or something. This was coming from a D200, so I was blown away with how well the camera handles 3200 and 6400. It doesn't hurt that I actually prefer a little grain in my photos, so some slight high ISO noise makes me feel better about most images. But between the 5N's high ISO and Lightroom's NR I don't really have to worry about getting too much noise to be usable at anything but the most extreme settings. Stopping my old Industar down to f/4 to get a little sharper in low light is absolutely a thing I don't fret over now 
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I remember when the D3 first came out how revolutionary it was for high ISO but now even budget APS-C cameras are starting to crowd up that space.
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Budget non-Canon APS-C cameras, but yeah. 
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Mightaswell posted:Budget non-Canon APS-C cameras, but yeah. Would be good if they put that new dual pixel tech into the next iteration of their EOS-M cameras but I guess they're too scared of cannibalising their own DSLR lines. Personally I think they should just drop the xxxD and xxxxD lines and replace them with the EOS-M and similar variants.
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The new firmware for the X-Pro 1 and X-E 1 is out. http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/software/#firmware for the body http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/software/#lens_firmware for the lenses From my 5 minute tests the lenses (14,35,60) seemed to do a better job of focusing in lower light. Not faster but they seemed to not "give up" as fast- they seem to judder a bit as they zero in at the end. In better light they are noticeably faster and accurate. The XF60 is a lot better lens than it was yesterday. It also seems like they did something to the 60 in macro mode, I remember it being a real pig but it's pretty fast now. Focus peaking is enabled full-time when you switch to manual and works in the EVF and is demonstrably useful. There are some new settings in Menu 5 for the upcoming XC lenses and a new MF Assist menu where you can turn off Peaking or switch it between Low/High (default is High). No AutoISO limit but they've talked about another update to add in selectable Peaking colors so who knows.
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Just in time on that firmware. I'm sitting here trying to keep awake so I can sleep through an overseas flight, luckily my X-Pro and lenses are in a carry-on. I was never big on brand loyalty or fanboyism. My first DSLR was the original Canon Rebel, and I stuck with Canon through various updates strictly because I had Canon lenses. Some friends who shoot Nikon would try to start flamewars with me but I never felt like I owed Canon any loyalty, they never even sent me a birthday card, only expected me to buy a slightly improved model every year. The X-100 was my first Fujifilm camera and I loved it and I loved how they kept improving it even after the big hype when it came out. I got the X-pro 1 at launch for that very reason and here they are, well over a year later, giving me massive improvements to a camera that I already love. They could easily have waited and launched the X-Pro 2 with all the upgrades that are in firmware 1.01 to 3.00, but instead they made something I already paid for better for free. I do feel brand loyalty to Fujifilm now and I will make a pilgrimage to their Tokyo HQ in a couple of days to fondle the XM-1.
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ThisQuietReverie posted:No AutoISO limit but they've talked about another update to add in selectable Peaking colors so who knows. I think it was Fujirumors.com that recently reported that Fuji is aware that customers really want this and they are working on it, but no promises, or something along those lines. I honestly never thought we'd see focus peaking, so who knows what they do. I find myself starting to turn into a bit of a Fuji fan boy as well. They'll break my heart someday, but for now, I'm pretty happy.
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Helicity posted:I think it was Fujirumors.com that recently reported that Fuji is aware that customers really want this and they are working on it, but no promises, or something along those lines. I honestly never thought we'd see focus peaking, so who knows what they do. I may be spoiled by having been exposed to the concept since the beginning with the NEX, but I think the whole concept should be improved ASAP by doing something like context-sensitive color. I mean, the image is already displayed on an LCD, the camera computer surely must know that (say) white on white is not going to stand out.
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Wow, the XE1 with the zoom now AF faster than EOS M. Noticeably faster too. I got to try it out tonight. Now we just need a few minor upgrades for the next firmware: Able to set slowest shutter speed; let me set left and right arrow keys as Fn keys; also allow to change the custom setting names. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jul 23, 2013 |
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Helicity posted:I think it was Fujirumors.com that recently reported that Fuji is aware that customers really want this and they are working on it, but no promises, or something along those lines. I honestly never thought we'd see focus peaking, so who knows what they do. Please, someone tell them to add minimum shutter speed in auto-ISO mode.
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Malcolm XML posted:Please, someone tell them to add minimum shutter speed in auto-ISO mode. That's what they know customers really want, and they're working on, but no promises.
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