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Inoki's back in office on the Japan Restoration Party ticket.
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If you don't hate Inoki you are a bad person.
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Jul 21, 2013 23:23
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MassRafTer posted:If you don't hate Inoki you are a bad person. I love him in the same way that I'd love a particularly good movie villain.
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Jul 21, 2013 23:34
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Inoki kinda always struck me as the Japanese equivalent of Vince. Both are fasincating personalitirs and old egotistical bastards who founded the biggest feds in their respective countries. Can easily come off as either endearingly crazy or appalling depending on the situation. JRP's Shintaro Ishihara's new party, right?
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Jul 21, 2013 23:43
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Yep, a mid-November 2012 merger of the regional Osaka Restoration Association (most recently notorious for the mayor of Ōsaka city) with the former Party of the Sun (previously aka "Rise Up Japan"); Ishihara announced Inoki's candidacy in early June this year.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:21
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Thauros posted:Inoki kinda always struck me as the Japanese equivalent of Vince. Both are fasincating personalitirs and old egotistical bastards who founded the biggest feds in their respective countries. Can easily come off as either endearingly crazy or appalling depending on the situation. that's even more reason to hate Inoki then, those are the kinds of assholes who go to Yasukuni Shrine on war remembrance days or suggest the "comfort women" in WWII were volunteers who knew exactly what they were getting into. So, lots of old Japanese men who need to get flung into the sun.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:36
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harperdc posted:that's even more reason to hate Inoki then, those are the kinds of assholes who go to Yasukuni Shrine on war remembrance days or suggest the "comfort women" in WWII were volunteers who knew exactly what they were getting into. So, lots of old Japanese men who need to get flung into the sun. Oh, don't get me wrong from what I know about Ishihara this definitely falls squarely into the "appalling" camp.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:41
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Isn't Inoki mostly Brazilian? It seems odd for him to be a "Japan is for the Japanese" type. And, as I understand it, that's what that party represents.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:58
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Isn't Inoki mostly Brazilian? It seems odd for him to be a "Japan is for the Japanese" type. And, as I understand it, that's what that party represents. Every country has them, and them gaining power is a worrying trend all over the place right now.
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Jul 22, 2013 01:49
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njsykora posted:Every country has them, and them gaining power is a worrying trend all over the place right now. I'm aware, I just thought it was well known in Japan that he was Brazilian, where you figure even with his iconic status, somebody would be all "Doesn't that mean you have to leave, bro?"
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Jul 22, 2013 01:51
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Inoki's family *moved* to Brazil. He's Japanese by birth and genes.
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Jul 22, 2013 01:52
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Ditch posted:Inoki's family *moved* to Brazil. He's Japanese by birth and genes. Well, poo poo. Maybe I was confusing him with Rikidozan, who was also iconic but not Japanese.
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Jul 22, 2013 01:54
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Inoki is a Muslim, though.
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Jul 22, 2013 02:28
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Well, poo poo. Maybe I was confusing him with Rikidozan, who was also iconic but not Japanese.  Rikidozan was from Korea and when he came to Japan, he first lived/trained about 25-30 minutes from where I live. I'm pretty sure he trained in sumo first, and did so down here before moving away. That's only the tip of the iceberg that is "interesting Japanese history down in Nagasaki".
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Jul 22, 2013 03:20
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Japanese-occupied Korea, at that... though the 2004 biopic purports that it was anti-Korean discrimination in sumo that prompted him to turn to pro wrestling.
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Speaking of Rikidozan, I know he was a huge megastar in postwar Japan and that died young due to being stabbed by a yakuza in a bar with a a urine soaked blade. What I've never heard about was why he got stabbed in the first place. I assume he was targeted instead of just being in a bar fight due to the always mentioned detail about the piss on the blade. Thauros fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Jul 22, 2013 05:13
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Thauros posted:What I've never heard about was why he got stabbed in the first place. I assume he was targeted instead of just being in a bar fight due to the always mentioned detail about the piss on the blade. I'm not an expert by any means so this might be wrong at points - somebody correct me if so. Back in the old days, puroresu had a strong connection to yakuza financing - for this reason, there were wrestlers and promotions with either financial or personal ties to yakuza groups. This is why, for example, FMW's owner ended up dead; his funding came from the yakuza, and when the promotion folded he owed them an obscene amount of money and killed himself rather than have his family retaliated against. For some reason (probably ego-related), Rikidozan did this one time, and the guy he shot on, Masahiko Kimura, was an associate of a yakuza family. Rikidozan was murdered by the yakuza in retaliation for embarrassing and assaulting Kimura.
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Jul 22, 2013 06:01
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As far as I'm aware some companies still have those connections, I've heard lots of times that Dragon Gate is heavily tied to the yakuza and of course there was the almighty poo poo pile NOAH got into when their links were discovered a few years ago.
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Jul 22, 2013 13:42
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I thought the Yakuza hit on Rikidozan was due to his nightclub ventures. Something about him refusing to pay the correct fees.
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Jul 22, 2013 14:45
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Rikidozan movie on Netflix is a good watch. It's...a movie, not a 100% accurate historical representation, so take it for what it is, but I enjoyed the poo poo out of it.
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Jul 24, 2013 20:11
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Kobashi career MV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYQzcfVeUnE 
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Jul 26, 2013 00:30
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Hey Ditch and other guys who know '80s/'90s puro: Could you guys recommend some cool Hansen and Brody matches? Both singles and tags would be cool.
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Thauros posted:Hey Ditch and other guys who know '80s/'90s puro: Here's a few Hansen ones off the top of my head to tide you over. Hansen vs. Andre the Giant - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp0Wo7hLTIE Hansen vs. Kobashi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV4hKPlK7fQ Hansen & Gordy vs. Funks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M94G8t_Qccw Hansen & Gordy vs. Tenryu & Kawada - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gu72Ireiwg
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Jul 27, 2013 05:05
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Where would I get a DDT Pro shirt? Big Japan has some really cool stuff on that English website of theirs but no DDT shirt.
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Jul 27, 2013 05:17
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Thanks for the Hansen links Price check. I don't know of any DDT Pro shirts for sale outside of a very odd Hikaru Sato shirt if you're tiny enough to wear a XS, but thanks for the link to the BJW site EGG. No idea they even had an English one. Their What's BJW? page cracked me up though: quote:
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Jul 27, 2013 05:35
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Brody wasn't good so if you want to see "big tough white dude" just watch more Hansen.
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Thauros posted:Hey Ditch and other guys who know '80s/'90s puro: Price Check has you covered with Hansen, so... Brody vs Jumbo Brody & Superfly Snuka vs the Funks Brody vs Inoki For non-puro stuff: Brody vs Abdullah the Butcher Brody vs Ric Flair - part 1, check the related for the next seven (yes, seven) parts. This was supposedly Brody's favorite out of all his matches. e: for what it's worth I'm with Ditch re: Hansen being considerably better
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Surprised no-one's posted this yet: Hansen vs Vader. Brace yourself, it gets ugly.
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Jul 27, 2013 09:10
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised given thr participants,, but I just watched Hansen vs Kobashi from July ''93 and goddamn that was excellent. Thanks for the recommendations everyone.
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VogeGandire posted:Surprised no-one's posted this yet: Hansen vs Vader. This match is eye-poppingly good.
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While I'm on a DDT kick, what are the absolute best shows to get? I've liked everything I've seen on PSPtv but am unsure of what shows are good, and outside of Kenny Omega, his arch-rival Yoshichiko, Generico, and Kota Ibushi I'm not too educated on who is and isn't good in that promotion. Also, can somebody tell me a bit more about FREEDOMS? I know it's Jun Kasai's promotion but I don't know much else. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jul 27, 2013 |
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DDTs biggest show of the year is DDT Peter Pan Ryogoku which usually takes place around this time. That's the show where Kota vs Okada is taking place. They have a yearly tournament called King of DDT which is usually great. They have their beer garden festival which they just have weird matches and seem like really fun shows. They're usually not filmed or when they are they're clipped. You can pretty much just pick out a random show on IVP and it'll be good. FREEDOMS I thought was ran by Takashi Sasaki, but it's pretty much a deathmatch promotion where some lesser known guys or guys that don't do deathmatches often have matches. BJW usually reserves their deathmatchs for their BJW title matches and what not. Its a fun promotion. I once saw a scramble barbed wire bat match that involved Ricki Fuji, the Great Kojika, and Dino.
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Does anyone have a good site for Puro themes? Specifically looking for Dragon Gate, specifically looking for whatever Naruki Doi and Ricochet came out to on the last big show.
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Jul 27, 2013 17:36
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Half hour documentary on puro which manages to be about 90% accurate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoAPa4lgr5M
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sigmachiev posted:Does anyone have a good site for Puro themes? Specifically looking for Dragon Gate, specifically looking for whatever Naruki Doi and Ricochet came out to on the last big show. when I've ripped some to put onto my PS3 for WWE games I just find a video on YouTube and then use a youtube downloader page.
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Ditch posted:Half hour documentary on puro which manages to be about 90% accurate:
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:Cool video. Now we have video proof at 18:25 that translation of Puro is not needed. Also, it seemed to imply that Pancrase was still around. Are they?
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Ditch posted:They're active but Funaki hasn't fought since 2008. I'm pretty sure he did a recent shoot-themed match but I don't know where or when. Volk Han, apparently. Don't think it was taped.
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Jul 28, 2013 09:12
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That's not the one I was thinking of. And this clip clearly wasn't him vs Han.
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Tiger Mask and Liger are the new GHC Jr tag champs. That's now 4 tag championships I think held by NJPW guys from outside NJPW itself (CMLL tag titles, GHC tag+jr tag, ROH tag titles).
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