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UberJumper posted:What map type are you using that holds 22 civilizations? You can add more civs than the regular map size normally holds through advanced setup, up to 22 civs and 41 city states.
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UberJumper posted:What map type are you using that holds 22 civilizations? 
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Jul 21, 2013 20:58
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Yeah, I meant 22 civs. It's a Huge-Earth-Emperor-Marathon game I started for fun to see how it goes, although by now the amount has decreased to 17 since the Huns conquered France, the Aztecs and some other civ I never met and the Dutch took down Egypt. No idea who the last guy was.  The whole world has been divided into two camps that keep denouncing each other. Also I'm pretty sure Maria Theresa had all of North America for herself since she has a ton cities in that fog.  Makes for a colourful map at least. E: Looking at it now, I find it amusing that nobody wants to touch Australia except for Hiawatha and even that infamous city spewer refused to build more than one. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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Jul 21, 2013 20:59
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AI-leftover from Civ IV and it's wildlife units.
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Jul 21, 2013 22:20
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So through Steam I purchased the Gold Edition with the intent to play on my macbook. I meet the system requirements, but the game crashes immediately after start up and only displays a black screen for a few seconds. I have tried restarting my computer, reinstalling the game, there was a suggestion to delete the starting movies because that causes problems (but didn't do anything). None of this has had any effect. What do I need to do in order to get the game to run on my computer?
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Jul 21, 2013 22:44
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Feste posted:So through Steam I purchased the Gold Edition with the intent to play on my macbook. I meet the system requirements, but the game crashes immediately after start up and only displays a black screen for a few seconds. I have tried restarting my computer, reinstalling the game, there was a suggestion to delete the starting movies because that causes problems (but didn't do anything). None of this has had any effect. What do I need to do in order to get the game to run on my computer? Go to Aspyr.com and check out their support forums and submit a support ticket if you need to. Aspyr did the mac port and are fairly responsive.
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Jul 21, 2013 23:03
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Feste posted:So through Steam I purchased the Gold Edition with the intent to play on my macbook. I meet the system requirements, but the game crashes immediately after start up and only displays a black screen for a few seconds. I have tried restarting my computer, reinstalling the game, there was a suggestion to delete the starting movies because that causes problems (but didn't do anything). None of this has had any effect. What do I need to do in order to get the game to run on my computer? What are your actual specs? Have you installed the latest drivers for your card?
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Jul 21, 2013 23:08
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Every time I start up a game as morocco I have an early aggressive civ start right next door. Got demolished by early aztecs and zulu so far. In my third attempt I started next to the mongols and they wanted to declare friendship and open borders right off the bat. Little did I know this was so they could conquer all the city states around me, destroying my extra gold for diversity in trade routes. No matter, I figure I've got three pretty established cities now, including petra and sikhism in my capital. I should be able to tech up, then liberate all the city states after taking the Mongol capital. Get all of the money then buy my self a spaceship.
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Jul 21, 2013 23:09
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Just won an OCC culture game as France, where I ended up boxed in by an extremely hostile Bismarck for most of the game. Paris was inland too, so I couldn't really make much use of trade routes - outside Germany, I had only two city-states that I could have sent caravans to. Fortunately Chateaus give craploads of gold! Chateaus also made an enormous difference in holding off Bismarck's invasions. Paris itself never took a single point of damage through the entire game. My capital had 500+ culture a turn by Turn 340, and I was pumping out 250 tourism a turn. After I grabbed Plastics, I decided to beeline for Internet to help with overcoming Kamehameha's culture, ended up winning before I picked up the final technology - if I had detoured to pick up Airports then I could have been outputting much more tourism. Ended with a whopping 112,495 total culture created.
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Jul 21, 2013 23:19
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I did register on the Aspyr site and checked their support threads, but couldn't find anything quite relevant to my situation. Waiting to hear back from them.Rather Dashing posted:What are your actual specs? Have you installed the latest drivers for your card? The GameAgent site cleared my specs (and it's recommended by Aspyr), here they are: Operating System: 10.7.5 Processor Number: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz Number of Cores: 2 Memory: 4 GB Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT Video Memory: 256 MB Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 9400M Video Memory: 256 MB
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Jul 21, 2013 23:20
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Super Jay Mann posted:Also regarding Venice, I didn't appreciate the other part of their UA (being able to buy buildings in puppeted cities) until I actually played it. That one ability alone greatly diminishes the only real disadvantage of having a puppet in the first place. I can't believe I missed that, i'm playing Venice in a multiplayer game against my friend and i've never used that ability.
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Jul 21, 2013 23:33
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Feste posted:I did register on the Aspyr site and checked their support threads, but couldn't find anything quite relevant to my situation. Waiting to hear back from them. Ah, sorry, missed that you're on a mac so my advice is somewhat limited. I guess the one thing I'd say is that I'd be aware of playing stuff when you're just on the cusp of the min specs as nothing is guaranteed there. That does seem to be quite low for video memory too. Good luck anyhow.
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Jul 21, 2013 23:51
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Rather Dashing posted:Ah, sorry, missed that you're on a mac so my advice is somewhat limited. I guess the one thing I'd say is that I'd be aware of playing stuff when you're just on the cusp of the min specs as nothing is guaranteed there. That does seem to be quite low for video memory too. Haha, thanks anyway. I'm soon to purchase a new laptop anyway, so even if it doesn't work I'll just have to wait a few months.
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Jul 21, 2013 23:54
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Feste posted:I did register on the Aspyr site and checked their support threads, but couldn't find anything quite relevant to my situation. Waiting to hear back from them. It must be something with your drivers, because my MacBook's specs are almost the same, only I actually have a slower processor. Enjoy having choppy-as-hell late games!
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Jul 21, 2013 23:55
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So when things work out, Venice is in fact totally awesome. I think they have to be one of my favorite civs now. I am playing a normal size, continents plus game on king difficulty. Currently in the modern era, in a golden age, and my output looks like this. I started off next to Catherine, who has been my bud the whole game. Catherine is next to Shaka, so she has had bigger concerns than attacking my city (the trade with which was keeping her afloat). I've maneuvered my way to the point where I am friends with everybody, and everybody hates Shaka. I have my capital and eight puppeted city states. Could even puppet a couple more by buying great merchants with faith easily enough, but it doesn't matter at this point. Plus the only city states left don't have very good land. My capital looks like this. I actually started in the tundra, but most of the tundra tiles are covered with forest which means they aren't really bad. Plus, I've banged out a bunch of wonders with the power of sawmills.  The plan is to spaceship win. I already picked up the ideology that lets me buy spaceship parts. Filthy Monkey fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Jul 22, 2013 00:29
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 This is my first time playing as Venice and attempting Prince mode, what am I doing wrong here?
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Jul 22, 2013 00:34
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You have no trade routes going, and if you've gone Tradition those units should be stationed in your cities to save their upkeep cost. It looks like you might have grown too fast, so you need to trade some of your excess luxuries to other civs for luxuries you don't have to get that happiness up and build some happiness buildings. The trade routes are the biggest problem. Also minor point, but on higher difficulties you'll need a much bigger military than that by 225AD or you'll be crushed. e: just noticed you haven't met any other civs...there's your problem. Varjon fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Jul 22, 2013 00:41
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Fat_Cow posted:This is my first time playing as Venice and attempting Prince mode, what am I doing wrong here? 0/4 trade routes as Venice, for one.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:41
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Trade routes are a cool mechanic, but I've come to loathe having to reconfigure them every 30 turns. At the very least, the list of cities should open centered on the previous route. It would be even better if the previous route was in its own section at the top. As it is, I usually end up scrolling through two dozen cities just to get to the same route I have been selecting every 30 turns for the past thousand years.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:50
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Yeah, Venice isn't a really good 'start on an island all by yourself' civ. You really need to have some friends nearby. I started with Russia not too far away, and we quickly became very profitable buds with all of the trade we were sending each other. Plus she was a useful buffer to keep Shaka busy while I bought out the world.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:51
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Kyrosiris posted:0/4 trade routes as Venice, for one. So basically rush Caravans and then make sure Barbarians don't capture them? Varjon posted:You have no trade routes going, and if you've gone Tradition those units should be stationed in your cities to save their upkeep cost. It looks like you might have grown too fast, so you need to trade some of your excess luxuries to other civs for luxuries you don't have to get that happiness up and build some happiness buildings.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:52
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Fat_Cow posted:
You started on an island by yourself and didn't restart the game.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:53
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Fat_Cow posted:I went Liberty for the free Merchant, I guess that was dumb.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:55
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Fat_Cow posted:I went Liberty for the free Merchant, I guess that was dumb. You get a free merchant at Optics and you're better off getting other merchants the old-fashioned way. Liberty while playing Venice is a complete waste of time. EDIT - I feel like isolated starts are a problem for everyone in BNW since you're no longer able to generate much gold on your own before the medieval age. Super Jay Mann fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Jul 22, 2013 00:58
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Fat_Cow posted:I went Liberty for the free Merchant, I guess that was dumb. After you max tradition, it is pretty obvious that you should go commerce. We are Venice after all. It gives you bonus gpp for great merchants, lets you buy great merchants with faith, and protectionism is a pretty big happy boost. Plus the +25% gold boost in the capital from simply taking it is a good deal. Plus big ben is exactly the wonder you want when you are buying all sorts of buildings in your puppeted city states.
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Jul 22, 2013 01:02
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Thanks for the help! Now my new start is next to 4 different wine tiles + King Kamehameha.
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Jul 22, 2013 01:05
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I was really surprised how easily I got merchants as venice. I almost never see them in my regular games, probably because I rarely use food on market specialists that could be going towards science or culture unless my city has ungodly amounts of food. I had no problems with Venice though, in fact they seemed to show up right when I was ready to use them. e: Fat_Cow posted:Thanks for the help! Now my new start is next to 4 different wine tiles + King Kamehameha. Awesome. Wine's great, and kamehameha can be a real bro.
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Jul 22, 2013 01:05
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Looking for opinions on where to settle on this map, obviously I want the northern city first to block Cathy from that insanely good south east, but I can't decide what would be the optimal placement. As an additional note, I have the festivals Pantheon for addition faith and culture from Wine and Incense tiles (I also intend to get monasteries because this entire island...drat!). For the north city, west gains the river, but loses an additional sheep (with Ducal Stables) and wheat. I had also considered the spot to the west of the left yellow, but I don't really need the faith from sniping Mt Kailesh from Geneva and I do need to block Cathy off. I basically want to spam out trade posts for this city and try to use it as a science/commerce powerhouse. As for the south east city...I really want to settle the east spot because it would be a MONSTER production city with Ducal stables and a hydro plant. More than enough food, more than enough hills and lots and lots of horses. I have a feeling that there's iron in them there hills as well. However, the western site might be better as it'll give me space to squeeze out another city down to the south east near the Vatican. But I might not need to do that, considering I am planning to take out Catherine before she takes me out (I want this goddamn island!). Opinions goons? Where the hell do I settle? I'm personally leaning towards the west yellow and east blue.
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Jul 22, 2013 02:11
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A Tartan Tory posted:Opinions goons? Where the hell do I settle? I'm personally leaning towards the west yellow and east blue. I would go the Easternmost Blue X, the one on the hill closest to Vatican City. The sheer number of horses, incense, and other goodies it comes with (it's Petra compatible as well) are too good to pass up. By my count, it is in eventual range of 4 horses, a silver (a new luxury for you), and 2 Incense. Seems pretty good to me.
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Jul 22, 2013 02:20
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A Tartan Tory posted:Opinions goons? Where the hell do I settle? I'm personally leaning towards the west yellow and east blue. I think these are correct. Being on a river is preferable and I don't think there's enough incentive to leave the river on the yellow. Starting on a hill is awesome so you should do that when you can. It will also have 4 available horses eventually for super stable action.
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Jul 22, 2013 02:21
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I think your inclinations are correct. You can still squeeze in an extra city by Vatican city even if you take the eastern blue spot. It would also be a pretty decent Petra spot. Especially with the new trade route bonus, you don't exactly need to have a petra super city candidate to make that worthwhile, and there's enough good desert tiles there as well.
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Jul 22, 2013 02:22
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Well, it's good to know I am at least picking up good city site spotting techniques! Thank you kinds goons.
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Jul 22, 2013 02:29
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Snow Job posted:Does conquering Venice's capital wipe them right out of the game, or what? They'll only have puppets afterward. Unless AI has different rules, no, it does not. I abandoned a game where I lost Venice itself, due to only having 3 mediocre puppets and a lovely army by that point, but I was still allowed to play, I had to actively retire.
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Jul 22, 2013 02:50
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Your capital just gets moved to one of your puppets and you are still unable to annex it. I think they should allow Venice to annex a puppet if it's their current capital city.
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Jul 22, 2013 02:52
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Kanfy posted:Yeah, I meant 22 civs. It's a Huge-Earth-Emperor-Marathon game I started for fun to see how it goes, although by now the amount has decreased to 17 since the Huns conquered France, the Aztecs and some other civ I never met and the Dutch took down Egypt. No idea who the last guy was. That is amazing, where do you get that kind of huge earth map?
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Jul 22, 2013 03:38
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Any beginner tips for playing as Korea? Should I plow through to a certain tech, or should I be thorough with each age's technology? Also, how much should I worry about expanding/conquering?
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Jul 22, 2013 03:41
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PunkBoy posted:Any beginner tips for playing as Korea? Should I plow through to a certain tech, or should I be thorough with each age's technology? Also, how much should I worry about expanding/conquering? Korea is innately defensive and science focused, you should be beelining the usual writing -> philo -> theology -> education path, with occasional diversions to pick up your defensive units and happiness boosters.
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Jul 22, 2013 03:47
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A Tartan Tory posted:Opinions goons? Where the hell do I settle? I'm personally leaning towards the west yellow and east blue. For the yellow, west on the river for certain. One extra pasture isn't worth giving up Hydro Dams later. You can also build a second city aggressively towards Moscow between those two Sheep tiles on the river - that's a really nice defensive spot that has access to enough resources to be worthwhile. Some overlap, but overlap isn't necessarily a bad thing. You could push Yellow west one more tile to reduce the overlap and get Wheat as well; you lose the Wine in your Yellow third ring but the aggressive city plant would cover it. For the blue, I'm going to throw out a different idea: settle all the way east, on the river plains hill next to the two mountains and Wheat. That will turn into a powerhouse Petra city if you can grab those extra desert hills before the Vatican does. Then a filler city roughly where west Blue is (adjust to reduce overlap if you want), and you can squeeze a little coastal city on the plains hill next to the mountain south of Blue. Two Fish, Wheat, and good improvement choices should lead to a reasonably nice secondary naval city.
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PunkBoy posted:Any beginner tips for playing as Korea? Should I plow through to a certain tech, or should I be thorough with each age's technology? Also, how much should I worry about expanding/conquering? Research writing as soon as possible. The Korean UA means that if you build a library, then build the great library you will get two research bumps (but not if you get the great library first) early in the game. Having libraries in all your cities early on also makes national college available, which makes it three bumps. Open with the tradition tree for the wonders bonus. Get great people and use them to improve tiles and build buildings with specialist slots. You should expand a fair bit to get as many beakers as you can with your population, but try to keep the cities fairly developed to allow for specialists, which means lots of food production, farms and granaries and acqueducts. Korea's units are crazy defensive so they should be able to beat anyone back, so try to pick up physics in order to build the hwacha. It might take a little while to get the specialist and great person beakers rolling in but once they do you'll build a lot of momentum in research and blast ahead of everyone else. edit: also, the research boost you get from building a science building/wonder in Seoul is mechanically a research agreement boost, so it can be improved like research agreements. Which means grabbing the porcelain tower and the rationalism tree's RA bonus trait is very important. Mr. Pumroy fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Am I the only one that feels like AI expansion in this game is about the same as it was in GNK? The AIs gold being at -5 doesn't actually subtract 5 gold from them each turn - it has literally no connection to their coffers every turn, and so they just spam settlers and settle poo poo regardless of how unhappy or poor they should be.
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