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So how does DW8 stack up against Orochi 3? I loved WO3. For that matter, any good words on Dynasty Tactics 2? I liked what I saw; chains of moves pushing units around.
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Speedball posted:So how does DW8 stack up against Orochi 3? I loved WO3.
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Jul 21, 2013 05:00
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My frustration level with 8 is lower than with Orochi 3 (HIMIKO! Stop stunlocking me to death with your friggin Musou!). Although the friendly ai/pathfinding in this is... worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7rm79r7up8 I had Liu Bei doing that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESXaP3AXfrc RESOLVED! (not my videos... found em on Koei's facebook of all things). I will say that there does seem to be a few issues with spell checkers, I was supposed to "defat" an enemy and Xingcai is apparently all one word on certain levels.
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Jul 21, 2013 07:06
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Maleketh posted:By default, you get the historical ending for a story by playing it normally. Once you get that, you can see the special conditions that appear on stages in that story. There will be at least a few that affect a particular battle in some ambiguous way; once you have them all, you can play either the historical version of that battle or the hypothetical one, which lead to different sets of stages and endings. Luckily for you, all you have to do is replay the stage in question and fulfill the condition to earn the star associated with it. Redoing the whole story is unnecessary. How do I see if I completed it hypothetically, or if the stage has a hypothetical outcome?
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Jul 21, 2013 07:26
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MotU posted:How do I see if I completed it hypothetically, or if the stage has a hypothetical outcome? edit: and then, when it's actually time to split off into the what if branch of the story, there will be an extra cutscene where someone who was supposed to be dead will show up, and then there will be two people you can talk to to start the stage and who you talk to determines which route you go on. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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Jul 21, 2013 07:28
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The "one word" bit is intentional and was done in Warriors Orochi 3 as well (Zhenji, Yueying, Zhurong, Diaochan, Lianshi, Daqiao and Xiaoqiao are also correct*), but yeah I've heard of multiple typos and other localization errors in DW8. * Zhenji, Daqiao and Xiaoqiao aren't given names; they're respectively "Lady Zhen", "Elder Qiao" and "Younger Qiao".
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Jul 21, 2013 07:30
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Samurai Sanders posted:The only clear way to know it is after the fact, on the story list there will be an empty check box on that stage. Inside the stage, a character will say something like "if only I had been a little faster, he would have survived!" or something. Oh I didn't even know there was a "Select Stage" in story mode! I was looking in Free Mode very confused. Thanks
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Jul 21, 2013 07:50
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Well it bugs me because in other instances she has two names, only in that one stage did she lose the space. Ah, I see what you mean about the "you can go back and save people" stuff. I pulled up the website I've been looking at. Although I'm unsure how some of the preventable deaths are... preventable. Note, that has massive spoilers if that's something you care about. Calax fucked around with this message at 07:53 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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Jul 21, 2013 07:51
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There's also this detailed guide for unlocking Hypotheticals. http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/topic/7080371/1/
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Jul 21, 2013 08:05
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Gyoru posted:There's also this detailed guide for unlocking Hypotheticals.
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Jul 21, 2013 08:07
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So basically all four "what-if" paths are basically the official equivalent of horrible fanfiction like so many other licensed properties?
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Jul 21, 2013 08:19
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They're pretty much all 'What if all the important people who died prior to this pivotal event were still alive and turned the tide'. I've only seen the Wei and Wu ones so far, the Wei one actually isn't too bad, but man, the Wu one is pretty dumb. What's everybody's favorite move-set so far? I'm really digging Lu Su and his rake of all things. Xiahou Yuan's Bow + Mace is amazing too, it just feels right and is hilariously over the top. Really, I've only run into a few weapons I didn't really like, the rest had me thinking that had they been in previous DW games, they'd have been among the most powerful in the game. Makes me wonder what Lu Bu's halberd is going to be like.
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Jul 21, 2013 09:11
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There are a couple that feel kinda clunky, mostly because of how much their charge attacks send you careening around the place. Specifically the Guan Xing's, and Lu Xux's. Also, this may just be me, but the tri-staff thing that Ling Tong uses (it's 4 am) can be finnicky because a couple of it's attacks are "hit a grand total of one yahoo and toss him. The only other major annoyance is the Tonfas, You go into a charge attack, and if you hit the regular attack to fast it cancels the attack completely.
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Jul 21, 2013 09:45
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One good thing about the Wu What If is Sun Jian. He basically treats any battle he's in after the first like hes on a retirement vacation, just showing up and having a blast. Hell, his first mission after surviving has him and Huang Gai treating attacking the supply depot and flanking the base like they're going for golf or something.
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Jul 21, 2013 10:36
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The GIG posted:One good thing about the Wu What If is Sun Jian. He basically treats any battle he's in after the first like hes on a retirement vacation, just showing up and having a blast. Hell, his first mission after surviving has him and Huang Gai treating attacking the supply depot and flanking the base like they're going for golf or something. Fictional characterizations (at least the good ones) of these people are the second most fun part about the series. Sima Yi and Zhang Chunhua have an entire stage dedicated to being angry old people telling kids to get off their lawn! The first being dunking dudes, of course. Any recommendations for stages/difficulties/weapons/character selections for obtaining trophies like the Switch Counter one and the 10-second juggle one? I always think I can get them on the way while doing stages normally but I get too distracted and forget about working on them a lot.
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I'm still not very far into the game as of now, but I think I can safely say 8 is the first DW game that I've liked after trying it (WO3 doesn't count). That sounds like faint praise, but I really am having fun and doing a reasonable job of not getting lost/bored. Questions: -Can I save progress in multiple kingdoms' storylines? I know I could figure it figure it out myself, but I don't want to lose my Jin progress if I'm wrong. -Why am I only unlocking skills on the first skill category? Portable Staplefrog fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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Jul 21, 2013 18:24
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Portable Staplefrog posted:I'm still not very far into the game as of now, but I think I can safely say 8 is the first DW game that I've liked after trying it (WO3 doesn't count). That sounds like faint praise, but I really am having fun and doing a reasonable job of not getting lost/bored. It tells you why on the skills. They need certain characters to reach level 50.
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Jul 21, 2013 19:33
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Portable Staplefrog posted:-Can I save progress in multiple kingdoms' storylines? I know I could figure it figure it out myself, but I don't want to lose my Jin progress if I'm wrong.
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Jul 21, 2013 19:42
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Portable Staplefrog posted:Questions: Each story is basically treated as it's own thing, I did Wu and Wei at the same time, made things a LOT easier overall because you get the other teams weapons faster.
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Jul 21, 2013 19:53
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PureRok posted:It tells you why on the skills. They need certain characters to reach level 50. Thanks and sorry for missing the obvious. I also know the answer to my first question as well, which was equally unnecessary.
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Jul 21, 2013 20:07
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I didn't notice any discussion on this earlier in the thread, but is there any consensus on how Bladestorm is? Thinking I might give it a shot after I'm done with DW8, but I can't find much information on it.
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I really like Bladestorm but it's slower and more careful. Rather than rocketing through enemies in an action style, you're running around commanding sets of troops to attack. The main thrust of the play is getting the right troops on hand to face off against whatever you're fighting, and switching between troop types as needed to chase after that. There aren't a lot of mechanics - most battles involve running head first into the enemy - but it's just chill and different.
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Jul 21, 2013 21:11
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Silvergun1000 posted:I didn't notice any discussion on this earlier in the thread, but is there any consensus on how Bladestorm is? Thinking I might give it a shot after I'm done with DW8, but I can't find much information on it. It's pretty alright, a lot more tactical and less actiony, the biggest thing is that there's a hilarious amount of grinding involved at it's core.
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Jul 21, 2013 21:11
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Isn't it pre-trophy? Is the version they are selling now updated to include trophies? I mean, if not, that means it IS okay to sell pre-trophy games on the PSN, which means Yakuza Kenzan in English isn't as impossible as I thought. It's just regular impossible, not double impossible.
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Jul 21, 2013 21:12
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No, Bladestorm doesn't have trophies. They do sell pre-trophy games on the PSN. Yakuza Kenzan is screwed because it's an even nicher spinoff of a super niche franchise that's dated as hell and completely clashes with the marketing that Sega of America pitches to people.
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Jul 21, 2013 21:16
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The GIG posted:It's pretty alright, a lot more tactical and less actiony, the biggest thing is that there's a hilarious amount of grinding involved at it's core. So it's basically Kingdom Under Fire then? I think I can live with that (especially since I'm a huge Hundred Years' War nerd).
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Jul 21, 2013 21:34
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Been playing DW8. Good to see Zhang Liao is still a glorious wrecking ball.
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Jul 21, 2013 22:33
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Policenaut posted:No, Bladestorm doesn't have trophies. They do sell pre-trophy games on the PSN.
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Jul 21, 2013 22:35
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Playing as Dong Zhuo is so much fun.
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Jul 21, 2013 23:20
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I know it's early days still, and there's a ton of content in the base game - but is there any word on "Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends," yet?
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ScottyBomb posted:I know it's early days still, and there's a ton of content in the base game - but is there any word on "Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends," yet? I have no clue who they would add, but I guess they always think of someone.
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ScottyBomb posted:I know it's early days still, and there's a ton of content in the base game - but is there any word on "Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends," yet? No but it will probably happen. Samurai Sanders posted:Well, I assume there will be eventually, but it's been out for several months in Japan and no word from it there either. Chen Gong won that contest thing so probably him.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:04
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The GIG posted:Chen Gong won that contest thing so probably him. I'd be cool with Chen Gong joining the cast. Actually, I'd be okay with a few new "Other" characters. There are quite a few neat stories in the series that involve characters from outside the four main factions.
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If he acts like he did in 6 then I'm all for it. In fact a few of the important generics in 6 and 7 would be nice to see.
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I'd like some new Other characters. They haven't added any since DW2.
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Jul 22, 2013 00:32
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 Just got the Heavenly Swords on hard playing through the Shu campaign. I hadn't been able to complete any mission in one go until now but I just killed every officer on this map.vv yes chunkles fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Jul 22, 2013 01:17
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Would that be Liu Bei's moveset?
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Jul 22, 2013 01:24
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OatmealRaisin posted:I'd like some new Other characters. They haven't added any since DW2. Well they added Mung Huo and Zhurong in 3 and Zuo Ci in 5, so you're a bit wrong. But yes, there needs to be more Others. Some that come to mind are Chen Gong, Ma Teng, and Gongsun Zan. I'd still like to See Yu Jin and Xun You for Wei as well.
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Is it just me, or is the story of 7 vastly superior than it is in 8? I just finished the Wei campaign, and first off it just ended really abruptly I thought, but overall I thought it was a kind of incoherent mess. It felt like they jumped around too much, and never really explained much or gave the motivation for what the hell was going on. A lot of the events were portrayed really half-assed I thought as well... for instant the Dian Wei death battle was terrible compared to 7. The Zhang Liao kills 5 billion men fight was atrocious, those two new Wei characters in that fight are like two of the worst characters in the entire game. I mean, the game kicks total rear end, and feels amazing to play, I just wish the whole narrative was as tight as it was in 7.
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abagofcheetos posted:Is it just me, or is the story of 7 vastly superior than it is in 8? I just finished the Wei campaign, and first off it just ended really abruptly I thought, but overall I thought it was a kind of incoherent mess. It felt like they jumped around too much, and never really explained much or gave the motivation for what the hell was going on. A lot of the events were portrayed really half-assed I thought as well... for instant the Dian Wei death battle was terrible compared to 7. The Zhang Liao kills 5 billion men fight was atrocious, those two new Wei characters in that fight are like two of the worst characters in the entire game. I have to say I liked what I played of the Wei campaign better in 7, story wise. The gameplay is much better though so I suppose it balances out.
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