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psyer
Mar 26, 2013
Looks like Wandering Son is coming to an end.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-06-11/takako-shimura-wandering-son-manga-to-end-in-july

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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Like Aoi Hana it has felt like it's been wrapping up for a while now. I think it's done so a little more smoothly than AH, at least. (Wandering Son)Shuu will probably stay in school and graduate, work at that place, and write his book. Seems like she'll stay with Anna for the foreseeable future as well. All in all, his arc's been mostly wrapped up (and honestly has been for a while). The "big" development to close it out I guess is actually Takatsuki, though again you would have had to be blind to not see that coming many chapters ago.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Is she just quitting being a manga artist? The only other thing that she does that might still be going is her online only Awajima Hyakkei/100 Views of Awajima.

Now I'm even more bummed out. :sigh:

Anyway, just got Volume 4 of it in the mail, looks great as always.

AxeBreaker
Jan 1, 2005
Who fucking cares?

Kimi no Iru Machi Decided to title their chapter "Farts!" this time, which is pretty unusual for the genre. I wonder if that (and the fact that it's Chapter 231) points to the series having jumped the shark? It's got to be winding down, anyways.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
They jumped the shark like 200 chapters ago.

Mad Lupine
Feb 18, 2011

all the things you said
running through my head

AxeBreaker posted:

Kimi no Iru Machi "Farts!"

Finally the series understands how I feel about it.

I have no idea why this is getting an anime. :sigh:

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Mad Lupine posted:

Finally the series understands how I feel about it.

I have no idea why this is getting an anime. :sigh:

Maybe next season we'll get a Good Ending anime. :suicide:

Seems like the most recent seasons have been real light on shoujo or josei romance (that I'm interested in, I'm sure I'm overlooking some show or another). I should probably go back and finish up both My Little Monster and Say I love You one of these days.

Have I missed anything this season that's worth looking at? Or coming up in the Summer for that matter?

coathat
May 21, 2007

You can skip the Say I Love You anime since it cut pretty much all the things that made the manga good.

All the shoujo series coming up are pseudo boys love snooze fests or otome game adaptations.

coathat fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jun 15, 2013

pezzie
Apr 11, 2003

everytime someone says a seasonal anime is GOAT

Just watch the best anime ever
I said it earlier in this thread, but shoujo romance anime (of today) sucks because they always end before really getting anywhere.

The last significant shoujo anime I can really think of that got a decent amount of episodes is Kimi ni Todoke. I mean I guess there's also Chihayafuru but that has the benefit of being a "sports" anime as well.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

That's what I was afraid of, I was hoping maybe there was something that slipped through the cracks and I missed.


I ran across an interview with Takemiya Jin, I really like all her work that I've read so I thought it was pretty cool

quote:

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Q1: Please tell us about yourself
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My name is Takemiya Jin, I’m a Yuri Manga artists. My sex is female. I am a lesbian.

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Q2: How did you become a mangaka? Was it something you wanted to do as a child?

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It was my childhood dream to become a manga artist. Because various people opposed my dream to become a manga artist I stopped drawing manga. When one of my submissions for a contest won an award, I started to think that I would draw manga as a job.

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Q3: Which artists have influenced you?
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Manga artists Takahashi Rumiko (creator of Inu Yasha, Ranma 1/2) and Togashi Yasuhiro (creator of Yu Yu Hakusho, Hunter x Hunter) and Obata Takeshi (part of the creative team for Death Note, Hikaru no Go) influenced me.

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Q4: If you were not a mangaka, what kind of work would you be doing?
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I think I’d probably be a clerk in a bookstore with a hobby of creating doujinshi.

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Q5: What motivated you to create Yuri Manga?
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I began by drawing stories that took shape from my own experiences, things I was thinking about and the messages I wanted to convey.

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Q6.1: Please tell us a little bit about your process.
How long does it take to draw a chapter?
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If we’re talking drawing a 24-page manga, it takes me about 2 weeks to completely finish the job.

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Q6.2: How many assistants work with you? What is the first step in your process? What is the last step?
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I have no assistants. But, when I’m in trouble, my partner helps me with the relatively simple tasks.

The first thing I do is to construct the “Plot” (which means planning and composing the dialogue). The last thing I do is “Revision”.
(Plot/Storyboard/Sketch/Inking/Shading/Revision/Tone/Finishing Touches and Final Revision…in that order.)

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Q7: You began as a doujinshi artist. Other than deadlines what are the differences between being an amateur and a professional?

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In my case, doujinshi was a hobby; being in a commercial magazine has that feeling called “work” so, although I draw manga as a job, I still would like to put out doujinshi.

The differences I see between being amateur and a pro: I really don’t know. From the beginning a pro has committed to the requirement of completing a manuscript by deadline, but whether amateur or pro, the work of communicating something is interesting.

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Q8: Do you read any Yuri manga? If so, what series?
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In the magazines that publish my Yuri manga - Rakuen Le: Paradis and Comic Yuri Hime - I read the Yuri manga my friends have created.

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Q9: Do you have anything you want to ask overseas fans?
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When you read manga, do you think “I want to go to Japan?”

E: はい!「私は日本へ行きたい」と6か月ごとに思います。 ^_^;

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Q10: Do you have any message for your overseas fans?
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When I began drawing Yuri manga, I never considered that there would be a day when my manga was read by people overseas. Now I can receive messages from overseas on Twitter or my blog, it makes me very happy. No matter what country you’re from, people’s thoughts and feelings aren’t different. Therefore, from here on, I will continue to draw the feelings of love and other very important things between two women in love with one another.

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Taken from here.

coathat
May 21, 2007

Ohh baby, Sukeban Deka is finally getting translated to English. Shits crazy. http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/sukeban-deka-r8876

pezzie
Apr 11, 2003

everytime someone says a seasonal anime is GOAT

Just watch the best anime ever
I dunno if anyone's still following Poor Poor Lips since the JManga thing happened, but there's been a huge amount of chapters released:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/poor_poor_lips/

Also, new Taiyou no Ie

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/taiyou_no_ie/v05/c023/

pezzie fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Jun 17, 2013

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
And another chapter of Kimi ni Todoke.

Part of me would kind of like to see the series continue with Sawako's adult life as a teacher, but we probably will just get a time skip epilogue at best.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Nate RFB posted:

And another chapter of Kimi ni Todoke.

Part of me would kind of like to see the series continue with Sawako's adult life as a teacher, but we probably will just get a time skip epilogue at best.

I wouldn't complain either if it went the Itazura na Kiss route and followed them all the way through college and into the workforce. I don't think it's even remotely likely to happen though. :(

In any case Sawako owns, Kazehaya owns, KnT just keeps on being excellent. :3:

arisu posted:

I dunno if anyone's still following Poor Poor Lips since the JManga thing happened, but there's been a huge amount of chapters released:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/poor_poor_lips/

Ah cool, I wondered if anyone might pick that up after jmanga got shuttered.

e:
LOVE COM★TWO chapter zero. I'm confused about the release order, but it this particular chapter is a cute follup to LoveCom and features Risa and Otani more than the other chapters did.

a kitten fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Jun 25, 2013

Vapor Moon
Feb 24, 2010

Neato!
The Human Font
Final chapters of Poor Poor Lips released

http://binbouscan.blogspot.co.nz/2013/07/poor-poor-end.html

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Poor Poor Lips was a cute series, I was surprised and pleased to see it actually handle real LGBT issues pretty well, especially in the context of what seemed likely to just be another fluffy yuri storyline.

twinight
Aug 25, 2004
If you enjoy Bonnouji, consider taking a look here, particularly at Itou-san and Unchanging Days. The rest is largely Touhou doujin, since that's where she got her start, but the tone of most of the stuff written by her all tends to have the same sort of pleasant feel, if you're ok with the Touhou business.

Not quite as stand-out as Bonnouji, but hey. Itou-san in particular is a collection of her earliest published stuff, so it's very nascent.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Someone mentioned Sasameki Koto in the convince-with-one-panel thread. So I read it, and it was...not great? Good? Alright? I like a good bit about it, the almost complete lack of fanservice, the artstyle(the artist really does good "Bomberman faces" and low-detail goofy faces, characters aren't overly sexualized and for the most part can be easily told apart) some of the characters, the backgrounds, Miyako also owns for being such a jerkass and having really great low-detail(is there a term for that?) faces when she talks poo poo about people. I liked interaction between the leads when they weren't critical moments being conveniently interrupted so they could forget about them or waffle on them for 3-4 chapters at a time, but eventually it got to a point where you could tell they were together but it didn't necessarily need the I LOVE YOU trigger to kick it off, though there was eventually a few of those thrown about. Some of the character growth was really well done and gradually changed though.

I didn't like how it felt disjointed a lot(didn't the author say it was initially just a one-shot that got serialized?), some of the characters were pretty pointless, many of the tangents were awful and could have been cut entirely, the cliches abounded(the ditz who they even lampshade!, the tween-in-high-school, The Scrappy(Mayu), the secret crossdressing boy, convenient interruptions delay advancement by entire volumes, the series ends literally as the two main characters go for broke) not that they're entirely bad things necessarily, and some are done decently enough. Scenes drag out, seemingly shoehorned characters are added, I dunno.

I think I liked it, overall, but it wasn't amazing, I wouldn't even say it's great. It was overall fun but way longer than it needed to be. It could also just be called Every Character's A Secret Lesbian and be done with it, though I have a feeling that could go for a lot of the same genre stuff.

Is there something like that that's less...filler-ey? It really seemed like executive meddling might've caused a bunch of extra stuff to be shoved in, turning it into a Ranma-esque drawn-out love story with wacky hijinks and convenient character placement stopping confessions and stuff, and small moves forward would be made and then utterly set aside for really grueling/bland deviations. And as always, I do enjoy a story, such as Bonnouji, that doesn't spend an eternity building up to a relationship and then having the actual end of the series being the cementing of that relationship. That might just be one of my biggest pet peeves, series that do that. Or hell, a series that isn't afraid to say/show that sex is a normal and healthy part of a relationship(again, like Bonnouji) and not some mythical goal or taboo not to be mentioned at all.

Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Jul 12, 2013

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Captain Invictus posted:

Is there something like that that's less...filler-ey?

That meandering is definitely Sasameki Koto's biggest failing, I mean you could completely excise Aoi from the story and it wouldn't suffer at all. Overall I still pretty much love it, but I have a really high tolerance for meandering fluffy romance.

Girl Friends does a pretty decent job of moving the character's relationship forward, but as you guessed, the "will they or won't they" is practically a defining trait of the genre. She's not particularly shy about showing the occasional panel of the girls changing clothes or whatever, and the art, while cute isn't really spectacular. It might be the overall closest to Sasameki Koto in it's mix of humor and romance though.

Love My Life is great, the characters start out in a relationship already, the couple in Octave gets together really early on too. They are both full on drama/romances though, not even remotely similar in tone to Bonnouji.

All of those do also acknowledge that people in relationships do, in fact, have sex without ever devolving into porn too.

And if you want a story that hits all of the things you asked for, but isn't yuri: immediately go buy Paradise Kiss

a kitten fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Jul 12, 2013

coathat
May 21, 2007

Good news every one the My Little Monster and Say I Love You mangas finally got licensed. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-07-18/kodansha-usa-adds-xxxholic-rei-my-little-monster-say-i-love-you-monster-soul

pezzie
Apr 11, 2003

everytime someone says a seasonal anime is GOAT

Just watch the best anime ever
The last two chapters of Hourou Musuko are here:

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/183596/hourou-musuko_ch122_by_hourou-musume

Was a good ending.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Definitely ended more smoothly than Aoi Hana at least. Well technically we haven't seen the end of AH yet but the last few chapters for it have been kind of schizophrenic.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

I thought it wasn't perfect, but it was a long way from being bad. Her art was in top form again and everything that happened seemed like if flowed naturally to get to where it ended.

e:
Oh hey, the OP got updated a while back and I hadn't noticed. Needs more Aoi Hana and/or Sasameki Koto :colbert:

e:e:
drat it rightstuf/discotek, where the hell are my LoveCom, discs? It's still listed as both "coming soon" and "release date July, 16"

a kitten fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jul 21, 2013

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Dunno if B Gata H Kei counts since it's pretty...Ranma-esque? in its romance (for a while at least), but against my better judgement I plowed through the whole 300 chapters of it. It could, of course, be shortened by as much as half since there's a bunch of repeated gags and stuff over the course of the seven years it ran for, but at the end of it, it was a really enjoyable series. I thought it would just be a cute wacky "sex comedy"(as in, implying but not showing) like it was described as, but no, it's ACTUALLY a sex comedy that also happens to be hyper-wacky and exaggeratedly anime most of the time.

Was genuinely surprised to see a high-detail, full-color, two-page spread of Yamada and Kosuda bonin' for the first time after Kosuda sticks it in. Naturally this was the perfect punchline for the page immediately prior to it and was actually really funny in context after all the buildup the series had.

I think the series could have continued(I don't know of any series that continue after they graduate from high school...) but that was a pretty entertaining series. A Komatsu Dump Truck-full of wacky misunderstandings, feeling denials and convenient walk-ins meant that it goes on for maybe twice as long as it might have needed to and I almost just said "gently caress it" and was about to skip 30 chapters at a time because it was dragging so badly, but overall it was pretty enjoyable and the character growth over the course of the entire thing was definitely noticeable! If you can endure the slow parts, it's definitely worth a read I'd say!

pezzie
Apr 11, 2003

everytime someone says a seasonal anime is GOAT

Just watch the best anime ever
When I read B Gata H Kei, I skipped like 100 chapters in the middle after I realized they weren't going anywhere, and by the time I got to the end I realized I hadn't missed out on much.

It was a decent, funny series but yeah, way too long.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Kissmanga is really good for that, it let me just scrollwheel through chapters effortlessly rather than click-page-click-page-click-page. Made for easy skimming.

Also, I asked this in the Recommendation Thread but I'll ask here too: how did it get in Shounen Jump with how uncensored it is about pretty much everything?

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Captain Invictus posted:

Kissmanga is really good for that, it let me just scrollwheel through chapters effortlessly rather than click-page-click-page-click-page. Made for easy skimming.

Also, I asked this in the Recommendation Thread but I'll ask here too: how did it get in Shounen Jump with how uncensored it is about pretty much everything?

It was in Weekly Young Jump, which is seinen. :eng101:

gobbledygoat
Jun 4, 2011

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Do not listen to a thing I say.

arisu posted:

The last two chapters of Hourou Musuko are here:

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/183596/hourou-musuko_ch122_by_hourou-musume

Was a good ending.

This ruled.

I'm amazed how awesome Anna has been throughout the series, she's probably one of my favourite characters.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

gobbledygoat posted:

This ruled.

I'm amazed how awesome Anna has been throughout the series, she's probably one of my favourite characters.

Anna is a very well written character.

But Sasa is the best and therefore is my favorite of the bunch.

a kitten fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Jul 22, 2013

Hedera Helix
Sep 2, 2011

The laws of the fiesta mean nothing!
I'm not sure what to think of Hourou Musuko's conclusion. Particularly with Takatsuki getting glossed over.

Hedera Helix fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Jul 23, 2013

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Why does it start at volume 5, chapter 34? What about the other 33 chapters?

Looking around, it seems like the first four volumes are a different story, I take it?

edit: ah yeah, seems to be about a crossdressing boy based on the first chapter.

Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Jul 22, 2013

pezzie
Apr 11, 2003

everytime someone says a seasonal anime is GOAT

Just watch the best anime ever
It's all the same story. Batoto doesn't have the first 33 chapters up because, I'm assuming, the scanlators of those chapters didn't want them up at Batoto, and they listen to scanlators.

Try another manga site for the early stuff.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Oh. That's kinda cool of Batoto then. I usually just use Kissmanga for everything since it's got that convenient all-on-one-page thing for chapters.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Hedera Helix posted:

I'm not sure what to think of Hourou Musuko's conclusion. Particularly with Takatsuki getting glossed over.
It'd be super cool if you spoiled poo poo like this so people who haven't read a series yet don't get spoiled on how a character ends up since I saw your post right before I started reading it and now it feels weird reading the first chapters knowing that. If you're gonna talk about a series's ending, either tag it or don't be so specific. Thanks so much.

Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Jul 22, 2013

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

Captain Invictus posted:

Why does it start at volume 5, chapter 34? What about the other 33 chapters?

Looking around, it seems like the first four volumes are a different story, I take it?

edit: ah yeah, seems to be about a crossdressing boy based on the first chapter.
Juuust in case you didn't realise, that's by the same author as Aoi Hana.

The first four volumes also have a fantastic, award-winning Western release, with the rest on the way.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

a kitten posted:

Juuust in case you didn't realise, that's by the same author as Aoi Hana.

The first four volumes also have a fantastic, award-winning Western release, with the rest on the way.


Only Eisner could afford those. Twenty dollars each, really? 25 for the preorder volumes? What? I haven't seen a manga volume over ten dollars in at least a decade. If I can find'em cheaper I'll buy'em, but 20-25 dollars is absurd these days for a single volume of manga.

edit: oh, they're hardcovers. That explains the ridiculous pricing.

And yeah, I had an idea that it looked alot like something I'd read previously.

Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Jul 22, 2013

Kusaru
Dec 20, 2006


I'm a Bro-ny!

Captain Invictus posted:

Only Eisner could afford those. Twenty dollars each, really? 25 for the preorder volumes? What? I haven't seen a manga volume over ten dollars in at least a decade. If I can find'em cheaper I'll buy'em, but 20-25 dollars is absurd these days for a single volume of manga.

edit: oh, they're hardcovers. That explains the ridiculous pricing.

And yeah, I had an idea that it looked alot like something I'd read previously.


They are really nice hardcovers with color pages and everything. If you want to see in person, libraries tend to have them, since volume 1 was on a "Top 10 Great Graphic Novels for Teens" list put out by the American Library Association. Hagio Moto's A Drunken Dream got similar treatment by the same publisher and is absolutely gorgeous, I really need my own copy.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I'm sure they're high quality. But it is a 14 volume series. I managed to buy the first 58 volumes of One Piece for about the same price this would cost. 20-25 dollars per volume is a significant investment, even for a series I really enjoy. I only did it with One Piece because I sold an old Lego set for exactly as much as it cost to buy them and got an extra 20% discount for making such a large purchase. I probably wouldn't have otherwise.

Everything I've seen so far shows that it's a great series, don't get me wrong. But man, between 300-400 dollars for a 14 volume series is a helluva pill to swallow, know what I'm sayin'? Regardless of quality.

edit: I'm only halfway through but man this series is pretty drat good. And doesn't sugarcoat the bigotry, at least up to chapter 60 or so, and I just got to Doi's curiosity with Yuki and it was handled pretty amazingly. I'm surprised I'm only halfway through. This sort of series is the kind I would definitely buy, if I could find them for $12-$14 per volume I would definitely buy the series. But I just can't justify a total price of over $300, no matter the quality of the series, for only 14 volumes. If they make cheaper softcovers I will be ALL OVER THAT poo poo.

Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jul 22, 2013

Kusaru
Dec 20, 2006


I'm a Bro-ny!
I haven't bought the series myself, I just check it out from the library whenever a new volume comes out, but the first 4 volumes are around $15 on Amazon with free Prime/Super Saver Shipping if that's available to you and you're interested.

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Kusaru posted:

I haven't bought the series myself, I just check it out from the library whenever a new volume comes out, but the first 4 volumes are around $15 on Amazon with free Prime/Super Saver Shipping if that's available to you and you're interested.

I just finished it. If I can get the entire series for under $200 once they're all out and I have it to spare at the time, I'll absolutely buy it.

That was easily by far the best of these sorts of series I've read so far. Aoi Hana was real good but this was leagues beyond it, and handled the sensitive issues way way wayyyy better than the others I read. I get easily distracted when someone links a thing in these threads and I hear that it ends well, so I keep procrastinating on my backlog, but this was a definitely good one to jump the pack with.

I don't even really want to go into a bunch of specifics. It was just a really heartwarming, dramatic, lovely series, and definitely one I'd like to have on my shelf. I rarely buy series unless I consider them "top tier"(One Piece, Yotsuba, Azumanga Daioh, Fullmetal Alchemist, the Rahxephon manga - largely because it crams so very much into only 3 volumes, a few others) and this would be the first...shoujo(is it specifically?) series I'd absolutely put on my shelf without a second thought.

I didn't even mind that Anna was his girlfriend. I rolled my eyes initially but it was written in a way that made her a very likeable and fun character. Various other characters had excellent development. That not everyone achieved their goals and dreams, or changed them over the course of the series, was nice to see. I feel like I've become too picky with series, but this one managed to hit all the right notes by the end, unlikeable characters became likeable, the story moved at a consistent and not rickety pace, words were rarely minced. I do agree with the dude I got mad at above though, Takatsuki does kinda feel like she fades into the background later on in the series, even though she shows up a fair amount, she almost feels extraneous by the end.

Also, Chiba has pretty much the Face Of The Year in the last chapter. Got a genuine guffaw out of me.

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