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eXXon posted:How did Harald get so unhappy in the first place? Also hilarious that it flipped and he then traded away all of his luxuries to get it back. Lots of cities with a couple of puppets, not many luxuries, different ideology than the civ with dominant tourism, no allied ideology civ. Just the typical factors I guess. I think he was at war with the only other Order civ forever so maybe that prevents the ideology sharing bonus.
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KingKapalone posted:When you try to trade a luxury resource, does it just trade one if you have two? You should only trade them if you have multiples, right? Its possible to trade your last resource, so if it says (1) next to it, you're trading away your last of that specific resource. Otherwise, yes trade for a resource you don't have! Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:So uh.... I had this happen with a unit I had once and I had to disband it. Nothing else worked. I guess you could declare war and tell us what happens. Maybe it'll move it automatically outside his borders? Or will it immediately start combat with the city? Otherwise its gift or disband 
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UberJumper posted:I hope you don't mind me asking but what map type did you use to generate that. It looks amazing. I really like maps generated with continents plus with CS islands removed. Both these are examples(standard size. 10civs/12CS). More often than not you get maps that have all continents that can be reached without needing to enter the ocean tiles, and nice mountain ranges and rivers everywhere. Inland oceans are common on the largest continent as well.
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I personally like the Mesopotamia map if you got it. There is food everywhere for making massive cities. Not a lot of ocean though : / In one city I have like 5 cow pastures alone.
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Just recently gotten into this in a big way thanks to the recent sale. Any mod recommendations? I understand that Brave New World has shaken everything up but I thought I'd ask after installing the R.E.D pack.
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Joink posted:I really like maps generated with continents plus with CS islands removed.
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Jul 24, 2013 00:47
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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Nitrousoxide posted:Any thoughts on how to start Venice off? What should I be researched and what culture path should I take? I'm kinda paralyzed on where to go with it because you can't fix your gently caress ups by just expanding to a better spot. For culture, I normally get at least 3 in Tradition(though I would suggest you max it out) and then work on Patronage. Take at least 1 point in Commerce as well, for the 25% boost in gold from your Capital. Later on you can decide if you want to max Commerce or Exploration(I lean towards exploration as the 4 gold per sea trade route adds up pretty quickly). If there is one wonder you should try to get as Venice, I'd say it should be the Collosus(and Petra if applicable). More gold per trade route and 2 additional trade routes(per wonder, so 4 total if you can snag them both) is amazing for Venice. Then I would also aim for Compass tech as quickly as possible. You want those longer ocean trade routes and the ability to find new trading partners / defend the trade routes (Great Galleas). CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Jul 24, 2013 |
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Jul 24, 2013 00:50
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Just won a Venice game, but admittedly it was on archipelago and king (epic speed too, if that makes a difference). I probably should be playing on emperor if I am doing archipeligo, as the AI isn't quite so good there. It got to the point where I was two eras ahead at the end. Got globalization, bribed the remaining city states up to +400 rep, and world congressed myself to victory. My start was a little cheesy too, having six ocean resources within range. Here was my capital the turn before victory.  Production is kind of low, as there was no coal anywhere. So no factories, and no power plants. Even with the six ocean resources, there is a lot of wasted potential with all of the blank ocean being worked. Empty ocean was never good before, but now it is really bad. At least you got a little commerce before, especially from coasts. My cities were all packed with specialists, as I had -50% specialist unhappy from freedom, -50% specialist food consumed from freedom, +2 science per specialist from rationalism, and +1 hammer per specialist from the statue of liberty.
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Wow that's a lot of money. Any recommendations for how to setup my second game? What type of land mass, number of civs, etc? I did my first game (first since about two months after launch) on 3 difficulty, so I might go right to 5. This first one does seem like it's taking longer than way back.
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Jul 24, 2013 01:11
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Continents and prince difficulty is a pretty normal stepping stone. Once you can handle that comfortably, you can move things up.
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KingKapalone posted:Wow that's a lot of money. Step up the difficulties one at a time, they can make for surprisingly different kinds of games. Otherwise, try for a different kind of victory type. Let yourself be guided by whatever achievements look interesting to you. If you want a straight-up suggestion for a game, I had a lot of fun with my last game's settings. Build up a small and tall science empire, and aim for a scientific victory. I'd suggest building up along the shoreline and using your cargo ships to move food between your four or five cities: Civilization: Korea Map Type: Continents Plus Map Size: Standard Game Speed: Quick Difficulty: Prince
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misguided rage posted:What was the method for doing that, again? I know it was posted recently but this thread moves so fast... You have to edit the ContinentsPlus.lua file in the dlc folder in your Civ V directory. Here's the link telling you what to do, it's easy and takes 30 seconds - http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=453587
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Filthy Monkey posted:Just won a Venice game, but admittedly it was on archipelago and king (epic speed too, if that makes a difference). I probably should be playing on emperor if I am doing archipeligo, as the AI isn't quite so good there. It got to the point where I was two eras ahead at the end. Got globalization, bribed the remaining city states up to +400 rep, and world congressed myself to victory. In this case, I would have taken off all citizens working the blank 2f coastal tiles and just leave them unassigned. They would have provided you 2 hammers and 2 science each since they count as specialists.
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Jul 24, 2013 01:46
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BadLlama posted:Whatever drove him to do this is probably the same thing that drove another AI to get open boarders with me and then waltz a settler right in the center of my empire where my boundaries haven't hit and plop a city right in my grill. That city did not last long. Carthage did that to me recently. It's a smoking crater now.
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Kyrosiris posted:Carthage did that to me recently. It's amazing what provocations we need in order to nuke a civ and burn down all their cities.
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A Tartan Tory posted:It's amazing what provocations we need in order to nuke a civ and burn down all their cities. Well, the game's diplomacy only has two settings. Polite and WAAAAAGH! Since Polite is so very limited, especially when dealing with AIs which only have a set number of things you can even discuss with them, you pretty much have to knock heads around to make the AI do anything close to what you want them to do. Alkydere fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jul 24, 2013 |
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Kyrosiris posted:Carthage did that to me recently. Never open your borders to anyone unless you have a really good reason to do so. I can't really think of any good things that can come of opening your borders up. Even the tourism benefit works on them opening their borders to you, so you can just buy open borders from everyone for 1gpt each without opening your own and not worry about having dumbass settlers running around or AIs scouting your military.
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Probably more of a Steam question than a Civ question, but since I've been playing in Steam offline mode on the bus, is there a way to get it to sync back up with Steam now that I'm online so I can get the achievements I no doubt unlocked?
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Jul 24, 2013 03:00
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A bunch of idiot friends missed the Steam sale + Green Man Gaming's coupon for Brave New World. The coupon is removed from GMG's site, but does anyone happen to still have it, and any idea if it still works?
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Argh, is there a way to like ask the AI to help you out with the barbarians ahhhhhh.
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Peas and Rice posted:Probably more of a Steam question than a Civ question, but since I've been playing in Steam offline mode on the bus, is there a way to get it to sync back up with Steam now that I'm online so I can get the achievements I no doubt unlocked? Gotta use steam achievement manager. No crime in doing so for ones you legit unlocked in my opinion.
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I think that's actually better than mine. Bravo. 
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How I envision the congress starting. "Everybody get up, it's time to slam now. Welcome to the Space Jam."
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Jul 24, 2013 04:26
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Does the grand mesa count as a mountain?
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Super Jay Mann posted:How I envision the congress starting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvru5jEQSOg This works roughly a million times better than I thought it would.
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Baron Porkface posted:Does the grand mesa count as a mountain? Yes and no. Don’t quote me on this, but I think natural wonders (including Barringer Crater and Old Faithful) count as mountains for the purposes of observatories, but not Machu Picchu and Neuschwanstein. If you have a normal mountain within two tiles to enable you to build them, though, the wonder graphics may be placed on the natural wonder instead.
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Every natural wonder allows you to build an observatory, even the ones that make no sense. You used to be able to build Machu Pichu using Old Faithful as a mountain, but I guess they fixed that. I just tested and it doesn't work anymore. Also, Dido can't cross any of them. efb
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Going Mega-Venice has to be the most fun thing I have ever done in this game. Having a 30 pop city at around turn 150-160 at normal speed is ridiculous. The best part is that it actually works extremely well considering all your tech buildings are just that more effective meaning even with a (theoretically) smaller empire than others, you're still rocketing out in front in tech because of your Venetian Geniuses.
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Thanks to the good advice in this and other Civ V threads, I've been getting a lot less terrible at this game. Inspired by the LPs and the release of BNW, for the first time in my Civ career (which, I'm sad to say, spans back to the original Civilization), I've finally started playing on Prince. Fortunately, I've won every game I've started that way thus far. (Yes, I've spent pretty much the last twenty years afraid to go over Warlord - I was never that great, and I seemed to be able to enjoy rolling over a largely non-responsive AI for far longer than I probably should have.) My latest, and probably the best Civilization game I've ever played, was a turn-814 Marathon victory on a standard-sized continents map, which I guess is kind of equivalent to a turn-271 Standard victory, but not really. Things were pretty much over and done with by Turn 610, though, because by that time I was winning decisively in every aspect that mattered: I'd amassed a serious (and growing) five-or-six tech lead, had the most culture and tourism, had built the most wonders, had befriended almost all of the city-states, and had annihilated every other civilization on my continent. Rather than running down the clock as I normally would and settling for what was likely to become a race between the diplomatic and cultural victories, I decided to just kill everyone else. It was actually kind of easy, but I can see that this game could have gone very differently. I showed up on the other continent just in time to watch Rome steamroll two of the three other civilizations that lived there. It even declared war on the fourth, and would likely have beaten them had I not have chosen that moment to attack. In the hands of a slightly more pathetic player than myself, this would likely have turned into a runaway Augustus victory. Now, I know that I'm still a total Civ scrub because I'm playing on Prince. Is this the kind of performance that would indicate that I'm about ready to move on up to King, or should I hammer on the AI a little bit more until I've worked out the kinks in my game? Since I'm still not that great at this whole thing. David Corbett fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Jul 24, 2013 |
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Being good at Civ is about proper decision-making and not much else (other than general knowledge of the game and its mechanics), and there's no better way to learn to make the right decisions than to be in a situation where if you screw up you're going to be at a big disadvantage.
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Play Dutch: Start in Desert, nary a Marsh to Polder. Play Morocco: Start in Massive swamp. gently caress you RNG, gently caress you. Edit: And the "Ocean" I'm next to is surrounded by land. Xae fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jul 24, 2013 |
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David Corbett posted:Thanks to the good advice in this and other Civ V threads, I've been getting a lot less terrible at this game. Inspired by the LPs and the release of BNW, for the first time in my Civ career (which, I'm sad to say, spans back to the original Civilization), I've finally started playing on Prince. Fortunately, I've won every game I've started that way thus far. (Yes, I've spent pretty much the last twenty years afraid to go over Warlord - I was never that great, and I seemed to be able to enjoy rolling over a largely non-responsive AI for far longer than I probably should have.) If you dominated the game so handily then yeah, it's time to move up.
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Xae posted:Play Dutch: Start in Desert, nary a Marsh to Polder. You can Polder flood plains. 
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A Tartan Tory posted:You can Polder flood plains. There was only three tiles of flood plains on the Large Island/Small Continent I started on. One of them had Wheat on it and wouldn't let me Polder it.
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The first time I played the Dutch, I got exactly one marsh (no flood plains) in my capital's radius. It had sugar on it.
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So apparently city states can prove the world is round, as Malacca just did it in my France game. Also my current Dido game had the Statue of Zeus built in 1935
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I think my current Emperor run is hosed, I'm not used to playing a wide empire and went a bit TOO wide (there was just so much good land! everybody was fuckin' pissed at me too). My science output is poo poo, my gold output is poo poo, my happiness is in the dumpster after my last war ended at -*40* thanks to my 2 enemies giving me the cities I was fighting them for at the same time so I had to raze them from full pop, then even when I managed to get back under 20 unhappiness within 5 turns from some creative maneuvers they STILL culture-flipped one of my better cities because ???reasons??? Ugh. And the because my science is in the shitter the AI's are way ahead of me in tech now, bombers and infantry and poo poo when I *just* upgraded to great war infantry and techs are almost 20 turns each and fuuuuuuuck. At least I got to straight dumpster the Zulu early game when they tried to cut in on my turf. He was even sadder than me, sandwiched between me, Arabia and Spain with his one last city I left him. Spain and Arabia were pretty much nonfactors the whole game, since the way the map got created walled them off behind some mountains sharing the small part of the continent with me and the Zulu 'sharing' the rest. The Iroquois and Shoshone were then off in their own little worlds a billion miles away on opposite ends of the long-rear end continent, each pumping out culture like crazy, while Denmark + Greece each had their own little islands where they couldn't really do much. Ah well, think I'll play a low-stress culture game next, wide stuff is hard
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