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I found a pair of these on the street the other day. They're not terribly top of the line, but the sound output is strong, they bump hard, and it sounds more to the "warm" side of the spectrum, which I like. Plus they're purdy... 
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Fisher made some nice stuff. Looks like the tweeter cones are damaged though 
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I'm looking to upgrade my preamp. Right now I have one of those jokey $20 Behringer ones. The guy at my local hi-fi shop is pushing the Musical Fidelity V-LPSII, which is a decent chunk of change (just under $200). He says it's more musical than the NAD PP2i. Has anyone compared these models to the TC-750, which is only around $44 on Amazon? Will I even notice a difference upgrading from the $20 Behringer preamp? I listen through fairly large bookshelf speakers, through a Yamaha 7.1 home theater receiver (in pure direct/stereo mode, obviously). I should also note that my turntable is a mid-level Technics belt drive, which I may replace later on with something like a Project Debut Carbon.
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Jul 10, 2013 23:50
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Are you sure that thing on the tweeters isn't just the glue bump where the leads are connected.
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The speakers sound fine and sound is coming out of both tweeters, so I don't know what you're talking about.
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LooksLikeABabyRat posted:The speakers sound fine and sound is coming out of both tweeters, so I don't know what you're talking about. I think he means the metallic domes on the tweeter and midrange look dented, but from the picture it's hard to tell. e: nevermind, just found the larger version of the picture on Imgur. The domes are in great shape. upsciLLion fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jul 11, 2013 |
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Jul 11, 2013 19:14
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upsciLLion posted:I think he means the metallic domes on the tweeter and midrange look dented, but from the picture it's hard to tell. Yup It just looks like a reflection
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Jul 11, 2013 20:11
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The only problem with them is purely cosmetic, speaking of which: there is some brown stuff caked into the pulp on the woofers (I think these were garaged for a long time, and some rust may have transferred from the metal housing for the woofers onto the pulp itself somehow). Any ideas how to clean it without destroying them?
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I'm setting up a music rig in my house. I went to the local hi-fi shop and found a pretty cool looking Nakamichi 730 Receiver. I think this may be a pretty obscure piece of equipment as it is difficult to find online reviews. I thought I'd take a shot in the dark to see if anyone had heard of it/used it.
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Mormon Knight posted:I'm setting up a music rig in my house. I went to the local hi-fi shop and found a pretty cool looking Nakamichi 730 Receiver. I think this may be a pretty obscure piece of equipment as it is difficult to find online reviews. I thought I'd take a shot in the dark to see if anyone had heard of it/used it. This says it was rated for 105W/ch, was made from 78 to 81 and sold for $1400. Sounds like you've got yourself a monster in sheeps clothing.
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Jul 13, 2013 14:44
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I may have an issue with liking integrated amps too much. Picked these two up recently a Technics SU-V9 and a Pioneer SA-8800 recapped with a nice custom case. I'll give the Yamaha C70/M70 a break and rotate the SA-8800 in later today. 
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Retarded Pimp posted:This says it was rated for 105W/ch, was made from 78 to 81 and sold for $1400. Sounds like you've got yourself a monster in sheeps clothing. I'm a little new to the terminology. Do I want a monster in sheep's clothing in my home?
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They often refer to receivers over about 100 watts/ch as monster receivers and this one with it's slim chassis looks more like one in the 20-40 watt range. Some of the more powerful ones like the 270W/ch Pioneer SX-1980 were massive 80lbs beasts. http://vintageelectronics.betamaxcollectors.com/pioneerstereoreceivermodelsx-1980.html I'm sure it sounds pretty drat good too, Nakamichi made quality equipment and for what it sold for in the 70's I'm betting it would be an excellent addition to your system. But, in the end all that matters is if you like it.
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I'm feeling very dumb right now. I'm trying to get a Garrard DD75 turntable up and running. I'm using a small Realistic SA-10 amp because that's all I have available currently. The amp has two selectable inputs, one labeled "tape/tuner" and one labeled "phono". It was my understanding that if there's a phono input, I shouldn't need a preamp. The sound from the turntable is VERY quiet though (to the point where I have to turn it all the way up to barely hear it). I have two other turntables here that play at a normal volume with the same amp. One is a midlands brand and the other has no brand or markings on it at all. All three and the amp itself are 70s-era. Plugging into the tape/tuner input doesn't change the volume at all. So am I correct in thinking my other two turntables have built-in preamps while the Garrard doesn't, and the phono input on the amp doesn't actually do anything different? edit: I found this page which says the phono input has no preamp, so I guess I just need to get one or just find a receiver/amp with a built in one. wa27 fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jul 13, 2013 |
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A phono input on a receiver should always mean that there is a preamp inside, otherwise they would just make it aux. It's possible but unlikely that the preamp is broken in such a way that it only functions as a line level device. It's also possible but unlikely that you have a moving coil type cartridge on the Garrard. Most turntables built before the vinyl resurgence (about 2000) won't have a preamp inside them. This includes all vintage turntables usually excluding suitcase/portables. We'll probably need some more details about the other turntables, possibly photos to ID them for you.
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I think he means it has a phono stage but no preamp. Still strange, though.
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Hmm, well the cartridge on the Garrard is a shure m95ed. As for the other turntables, one has no brand but says model number 0928N. The other is a Midland International brand with no model number. Neither have any identifying markings on the cartridges. They're really cheap turntables. I suppose they could be newer than I think, I got them both at the same garage sale and know nothing about them, though the Midland one has a 78 and 16 (  ) rpm setting so I'm guessing it's not that new. 
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Retarded Pimp posted:They often refer to receivers over about 100 watts/ch as monster receivers and this one with it's slim chassis looks more like one in the 20-40 watt range. Some of the more powerful ones like the 270W/ch Pioneer SX-1980 were massive 80lbs beasts. The Nakamichi is very cool, has a ton of power, and sounded good through my speakers. However, it was finicky and I don't have the patience for it. I'm returning it. The stereo store that I go to has a few New Integrated Amps/Receivers that I am considering. I don't know poo poo about how much power it takes to drive speakers (I have Canton Nestor 603 floor speakers). They have these that are in my budget(and unfortunately I'm married to THIS store with store credit for returning the Nak730). Marantz PM6004 Cambridge Audio Topaz SR10 Cambridge Audio Azure 351A Alternatively, they have a PS Audio 100 Delta that I could pair with a Adcom GFP-345 Preamp. Do you guys have any suggestions?
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What was finicky about the Nak?
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Retarded Pimp posted:What was finicky about the Nak? Front display was lit intermittently. It would make a barking sound and then shut off under very light loads. Finicky isn't exactly strong enough. Right now it I can get the lights to come on for about three minutes before it shuts itself off. I have a feeling it is a minor problem; when I listened to it in the store (almost 45 minutes straight of playback with me fussing with the buttons and switches), it seemed to be fine. Something on the drive home and setting it up must have come loose, unsoldered(?), etc..
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Mormon Knight posted:Front display was lit intermittently. It would make a barking sound and then shut off under very light loads. Finicky isn't exactly strong enough. Right now it I can get the lights to come on for about three minutes before it shuts itself off. I have a feeling it is a minor problem; when I listened to it in the store (almost 45 minutes straight of playback with me fussing with the buttons and switches), it seemed to be fine. Something on the drive home and setting it up must have come loose, unsoldered(?), etc.. Yeah, sounds like a loose solder joint or something. You're probably right to let the store deal with it.
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I have been wanting an old solid state amp and decent set of speakers to mainly just upgrade my listening from horrible Logitech PC speakers. I ran across this duo at the flea market. Poor cell pics..  Sansui T-80 tuner Pioneer SA-7700 amplifier I couldn't leave without a set of speakers to play through.   Fisher DS-810 LooksLikeABabyRat's speakers baby brothers with 8" main drivers. The old guy I bought them from could barely manage english and wouldn't sell me the amp by itself. It's in great shape and just needs some contact cleaner to clear up some scratchiness. The tuner is pretty sweet. It only needs a bulb for the dial. I grabbed the best looking pair of speakers he had, which were the Fishers. $85 total haul. Sadly, I think the midrange is gone in the right one. I am getting a bit of popping at relatively low volume levels. I will most likely just replace whatever driver is failing as a pair whenever I do find time to diagnose it. Any suggestions for components and parts? meecrob fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Hey speaker bro!
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 Its going to be a while before I get to play with it so I dont even know how it works.(or how to work it)
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evilnissan posted:
The best part is figuring out where to get reels and losing all your money.
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7inch stuff isn't too hard to find or pricy, but 10inch is rough.
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Crossposting myself from the NMD vinyl thread:Electric Bugaloo posted:
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I just replaced my $30 Behringer preamp with the $200 Musical Fidelity V-LPS II. I was skeptical about how worthwhile this would be, but I brought my little Behringer preamp into my local stereo shop to do an A-B comparison. The difference is night and day. Although the Behringer isn't bad, it's much tinnier and focused on the highs compared to the Musical Fidelity, which gave a much fuller sound: it extends further into the lower end, and has a much more balanced sound across the whole spectrum. I also replaced my aging Ortofon 5E cartridge with a new 2M Red. This was also a nice improvement, but much less dramatic than upgrading the preamp. So for anyone who's wondering where to spend their money first, cartridge vs. preamp, it may be worthwhile to go for the preamp first. The old fogey at the stereo shop also schooled me about playing with the dustcover off. I had no idea that could make such a dramatic difference. Kids, take your dustcovers completely off the turntable when you're playing. Same with slipmats: I had one on just for decoration. YMMV here, but if you've got a slipmat sitting on top of your platter just for looks, experiment with removing it. ryangs fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jul 26, 2013 |
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Crossposting myself from the NMD vinyl thread:
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I have a Fisher x100B tube amp (~30lbs) along with other poo poo on top of my horizontal 4x2 Expedit. I also have it sitting on six 8" legs. I don't think you'll have any problems.
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ryangs posted:I just replaced my $30 Behringer preamp with the $200 Musical Fidelity V-LPS II. I was skeptical about how worthwhile this would be, but I brought my little Behringer preamp into my local stereo shop to do an A-B comparison. The difference is night and day. Although the Behringer isn't bad, it's much tinnier and focused on the highs compared to the Musical Fidelity, which gave a much fuller sound: it extends further into the lower end, and has a much more balanced sound across the whole spectrum. What difference does playing without the dust cover make? I figured it would be better for the records if you just kept it on all the time.
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I once heard that it can cause microphonic issues, but I always put it down to audiophile exaggeration. SL-1200 looks much better with it removed during play though.
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The neighbor gave me a Kenwood KR-5030 yesterday, said he thought it had a bad fuse. I turned it on and the power would flicker on/off, mostly off, so I took a look inside. Fuses are either good or bad, doesn't sound like that and the fuses looked fine. It reminded me of my SX-450 that had trouble turning on for about a minute, turned out to be the power switch contacts had a layer of hard oxidation from arcing at turn on and shutoff. Gave'em a good sanding with 1000 grit and it's fine. This power switches contacts were almost nonexistent and a thick carbon coating covered the inside of the switch housing, was thinking about jumping the switch to be always on, but then I noticed a pair of resistors had overheated with some discoloring and a bit of carbon around the pair. I'm gonna look for the service manual to find the resistor values, since the discoloring makes them hard to make out the color bands and I've got some colorblindness anyway. While I'm in there I may as well reflow the solder joints and deoxit the switches and pots. Hopefully, this fixes it, because it's a nice 60w/ch receiver.
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I figured you guys might get a kick out of this here too: From the NMD Vinyl Thread: Context: Fellow goon Owsla had responded to my previous question about overloading my Expedit by telling me about the massively heavy equipment he keeps without issue on his. He attributed some of that to the weight and relative blocking power of his speakers, which he suggested may protect his Expedit from sideways jostles. People got to talking about the speakers (Pioneer HPM-60) and how good they were and then some stuff happened and I spent some money: Electric Bugaloo posted:Ok, so I spent Friday afternoon/evening finishing up with the inside of the Yamaha (CR-2040) and setting it up on the Expedit. No problems yet and the whole thing seems sturdy enough. But HOLY poo poo what a difference in sound. I really can't believe that I waited this long to swap it in. It turns out that buzzwords like "expanded soundstage," "clear imaging," and "you'll hear things you didn't hear before and play louder without distortion" aren't entirely audiophile bullshit- because I am an absolute believer in how much better this thing is at making sounds come out of speakers and headphones.
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- and within fifteen minutes I had learned two things:
without a hint of sloppiness...just, these things don't loving quit. 
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So I recently came into ownership of this beast: A Pioneer RX-390. I'm looking to hook up my SL-1200 turntable to it. While it does have a phono input on the back, I can't find a spot for connecting a ground wire. Anyone know where it would go?  Also I guess I should ask if it is any good. If not, I have a Technics SA-310 I could plug in instead.
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I've been collecting LP records in preparation for having enough disposable income to buy some entry level equipment, and now that I'm at that point it's time for me to ask about some poo poo that has probably been discussed many times in the thread. I am primarily going to be listening to my music with my headphones, and I am starting out with no audio equipment whatsoever besides the headphones. I'm looking at getting either the Pro-ject Debut Carbon or the Denon DP-300f turntable and the TCC TC-750 phono preamp, and some sort of headphone amp for the bare-bones setup that I need to listen to my records. Are there any recommendations for a headphone amp in a similar price category as the other equipment I've listed? Also, I might be totally wrong about what equipment I need, in which case I welcome any advice as to the best way to get the sounds off of the LPs and into my earholes.
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Dr. Lenin posted:A Pioneer RX-390. I'm looking to hook up my SL-1200 turntable to it. While it does have a phono input on the back, I can't find a spot for connecting a ground wire. Anyone know where it would go? It probably came bundled with a turntable that routed the earth through one of the negative channels. It's pretty common.
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Ron Burgundy posted:It probably came bundled with a turntable that routed the earth through one of the negative channels. It's pretty common. Yeah, there had been a turntable originally with it, but the guy who gave this to me didn't include it because he knew I had a much better one. My roommate told me I can just connect the ground wire to any screw along the edge of the chassis. Is this true?
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Dr. Lenin posted:Yeah, there had been a turntable originally with it, but the guy who gave this to me didn't include it because he knew I had a much better one. My roommate told me I can just connect the ground wire to any screw along the edge of the chassis. Is this true? Hook up the turntable and switch to the phono input. You should hear the usual hum of an ungrounded turntable. If the hum goes away when you touch the ground wire to a chassis screw, you're good to go.
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