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So it turns out our little one was molting, which he started in on at about 6pm last night, and finished around 9pm. We thought maybe this was why he hadn't eaten yet. After he was done, we put some mealworms in two separate dishes, and that seemed to work (both were eating) until the big one (who has been named Jabba) figured out there was another food dish and started a tussle to get control over it. So today we'll be the separate cage route. Thanks for the help! Here is a picture of the little one about an hour into the molt.
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Please please please, get rid of the sand. Tile, reptile carpet, paper towels, nothing. Anything is better than sand.
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Jul 18, 2013 18:10
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Cless Alvein posted:Please please please, get rid of the sand. Tile, reptile carpet, paper towels, nothing. Anything is better than sand. I read that as long as the sand was fine enough, then sand was ok for geckos.
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Jul 18, 2013 19:47
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Cless Alvein posted:Please please please, get rid of the sand. Tile, reptile carpet, paper towels, nothing. Anything is better than sand. Sand is absolutely fine so long as the gecko is a healthy and hydrated adult. In fact, reptile carpet can snag claws and cause the loss of toe tips.
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Jul 18, 2013 21:47
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Huh, everything I've read has said to avoid sand like the plague. In some cases they say okay for adults, but why take the risk vs just using shelf liner or slate Either way, I stand corrected. Cless Alvein fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jul 18, 2013 |
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Jul 18, 2013 21:56
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Cless Alvein posted:Huh, everything I've read has said to avoid sand like the plague. In some cases they say okay for adults, but why take the risk vs just using shelf liner or slate The "Sand Is Bad" myth has been around for a long time. It's not bad advice to avoid sand with babies, but with healthy adults, the risk is minimal. Impactions in adult animals are almost always caused by dehydration and/or malnourishment.
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Jul 18, 2013 22:30
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So, our house had the kitchen floor replaced yesterday and I moved my new batch of quail babies into the reptile room as a result. I woke up to this smug bastard sitting beside the tub: He ate at least 16, maybe as many as 20 and killed 9 on his way out. I don't know how he managed to get out of the quail tub after eating them because he is a loving sausage and seems pretty uncomfortable. He is now curled on the heated side of his bin and dead asleep.  I feel like an idiot but the quail were going to be eaten by me anyway soooo, lookit that fatass snake.
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Jul 19, 2013 00:06
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I came into the reptile room this morning to him hauled out on the side of the shelf next to the tub, looking at me with bleary disdain like 'Sup, I ate yo loving birds'. He was sooo grumpy with being handled but we just had to snap a few pics and bother him because lol, he is soooo full. This is what happens when you let your spoiled snakes eat quail culls.
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Jul 19, 2013 00:34
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THAT IS THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE SEEN IN FOREVER. Link this to chicken lady in e/n, I want to see the face of true horror.
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Jul 19, 2013 01:17
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lmao that guy knows whats up
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Pardalis posted:So, our house had the kitchen floor replaced yesterday and I moved my new batch of quail babies into the reptile room as a result. I woke up to this smug bastard sitting beside the tub: LOL what a lardass. Snakes are serious gluttons sometimes.
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Jul 19, 2013 16:02
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I love how you can see the individual quail lumps going down the body. Gluttony is a pretty good strategy when you can do things like curl up in a warm hole for a week and absorb all the calories you'll need for the year post-pigout.
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Jul 20, 2013 20:14
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I'm taking care of a very emaciated leopard gecko and am curious if there's anything else we can be doing to help him. We're not sure how old he is because his owner got him from someone else 8 years ago, but he's at least 10. Owner is a pretty experienced gecko owner and his husbandry with them fits with everything I've read about them (short but wide and long tank, hides, graduated heat, sand or newspaper substrate, etc) and they get fed at last weekly, usually more often. However this morning he noticed this one was skinny. He doesn't look skeletal to me, but there's very little fat on his tail and you can see his skull indents with ease. We suspect what happened is that this guy wasn't able to compete for food with his cagemates (I believe there's 8 in there total? it's a big tank) and since this one likes to hide and there's another with the same pattern, his condition just slipped by  So since this morning, I've got him in his own tank (2'x10"x1' rectangle?) with a layer of paper towels, a box to hide in, a shallow water dish, and a lamp bent over one corner of the tank to give him some heat. I don't have a way to measure the temps but ambient room temp is about 75F. As soon as he was on his own, he became alert, wandering around the enclosure, looking very interested in things, so we took that as a good sign. I got him some gut loaded, vitamin dusted crickets, and he's eaten about 3 so far. His hunting skills are really crap, possibly a factor in why he was having trouble getting his share of food, but he's definitely interested in catching things. He's even doing the lil excited tail wiggle before he strikes! I'm giving him a couple more hours before I remove the remaining crickets to a carrier and will offer them to him again tomorrow. The plan is that once he's at least stable, I'll try him on a pinky mouse. The tank is on my desk with my computer and speakers- bad idea? I can probably find somewhere else to put him, he's up here because I wanted to keep a close eye on him. This sound like a good plan? We're taking it day by day and if he continues to decline, we'll euthanize him. No this isn't a case of "I have this friend...". I'm spearheading trying to get him better because of personal stuff on his owner's part that I'm not going to get into here.
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Jul 26, 2013 01:11
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I'd give it waxworms over a pinkie mouse, they're easier to digest and chock full of calories. Don't forget your calcium/vitamin powder, of course.
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Jul 26, 2013 02:55
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A pinky isn't a terrible choice, but there are better ones for sure. Waxies, superworms and phoenix worms are good options. How big is the tank he's come from? 8 in one tank sounds like waay too many unless it's a 80-100g or a wide/low exo. Might do better to thin out the herd. Can we see some pics? Geckos can go very quickly from 'kinda skinny' to 'OH GOD', so it's important to judge where he's at with body condition.
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Jul 26, 2013 04:25
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I was told this is the only one out of the group that refuses worms so he suggested pinkies, but I;ll try waxworms first and hey, if he doesn't eat them, I know the others sure will. I'm not sure about the size of the tank, it's pretty big. Googling dimensions for 100g I'm pretty sure it's a wide/low version of those because it's at least three feet long. I'll talk with the owner about maybe moving in a second to this smaller tank if/when he's back in good shape. Crappy ipod pictures 1 and 2. The little brown bits are catfood kibbles I put in there for a little bit for the crickets because it's adorable when they drag them around  Edit: He is loving killing me with how ridiculously cute it is when he wags his tail before he strikes. I knew they did it because I saw the others do it before but man, up close, this little dude is cuter than a kitten even in the state he's in. He also keeps staring out at me whenever my service dog hops up in my chair, like he's curious about Otis  I really hope he pulls through.
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Jul 26, 2013 06:46
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I have a thing for Australasian pythons -  Macklot's python by sildargod, on Flickr  Macklot's python by sildargod, on Flickr I was lucky enough to pick up a gorgeous children's python earlier, so there'll be photos of her to follow soon. Our crested scene in South Africa is depressing, the cheapest you're likely to find one is around $200 and if they're captive bred, $300 or more. They're so drat cute, but gah.. That cost.
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Jul 26, 2013 15:34
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Wow, that gecko is looking rough. I wouldn't worry too much about it refusing the waxworms, they're like gecko crack. If the gecko won't go for it on the floor of the tank, just pick it up with tongs and wiggle it around close to its nose. That normally does the trick for the first one, and once they get that fatty worm taste associated with the smell you shouldn't have to wiggle them anymore. If you're going to feed mealworms, I'd personally give it a good soaking every couple days to make sure the animal stays good and hydrated. Mealworms are full of calories but they're so shell-y that an animal in poor health could develop discomfort or blockage if it's dehydrated or weak. Lukewarm (80-90 degrees) dechlorinated water just below the elbows, let soak for 20-30 minutes. They don't drink the water really, they absorb it up the cloaca and a little bit through the skin. e: And yeah that little tail wiggle is drat cute. I could watch Toast eat all day and have a straight face the whole time.
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Jul 26, 2013 16:31
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weavernaut posted:I'm in Germany and I have no idea if there are reptile shows in my area. I'd think there are, but I'm not 100% sure what to google for (I don't speak German well enough). Whereabouts are you? (Town and or/postcode) I'll have a look and will let you know what I can find out.
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Jul 26, 2013 21:26
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I'm in Baden-Wuerttemberg, in Karlsruhe. That's nearish Baden Baden.
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Snake feeding question..I've got 4 snakes of various ages/weights and I feed all of them adult mice (reg/small? Theyre not jumbo). For the larger guys, Im wondering if its just more cost effective to switch to rats... Gopherbull 182g Ball 201g Corn 597g Bullsnake 763g From the last weighing. I just fed the bull 3 mice, and the corn would probably take 3 easily. i'm not sure about the gopherbull, theres only a slight bulge from the mouse I just fed. Going off of rodentpro, I could maybe go for extra large mice, 25.00 - 45.00+g or weaned rats, 30.00 - 44.99... the rats are twice the price though for around the same weight. Worth it? I feel like Id still be feeding the same amount..? $65 vs $112 for 125 pieces.
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Malalol posted:Snake feeding question..I've got 4 snakes of various ages/weights and I feed all of them adult mice (reg/small? Theyre not jumbo). For the larger guys, Im wondering if its just more cost effective to switch to rats... Rats and chicks would be your best bet. American Rodent usually has chicks for like $.25 a piece.
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Jul 27, 2013 05:41
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sildargod posted:I have a thing for Australasian pythons - I love the Macklot's. Very underappreciated species. I've personally always had a soft spot for Savus.
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Jul 27, 2013 05:42
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Big Centipede posted:Rats and chicks would be your best bet. American Rodent usually has chicks for like $.25 a piece. I didnt realize chicks were that cheap... is there a downside to them? Im unsure about the gopherbulls ability to eat a day old chick (no idea how fat they are), and if all of them would take to eating em... I dont have an issue with the ball eating mice at the moment.
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Malalol posted:I didnt realize chicks were that cheap... is there a downside to them? Im unsure about the gopherbulls ability to eat a day old chick (no idea how fat they are), and if all of them would take to eating em... I dont have an issue with the ball eating mice at the moment. Oh, I missed that ball... I'd keep the ball on rats and nothing else. The only downside to chicks is the snake poop can be extra smelly sometimes. My ratsnakes and kings LOVE them.
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Kilersquirrel posted:Wow, that gecko is looking rough. I wouldn't worry too much about it refusing the waxworms, they're like gecko crack. If the gecko won't go for it on the floor of the tank, just pick it up with tongs and wiggle it around close to its nose. That normally does the trick for the first one, and once they get that fatty worm taste associated with the smell you shouldn't have to wiggle them anymore. I'll definitely give the waxworms a shot then, once he's through these crickets, and bear that in mind about soaking him. Today he's being a lot less active and more like a rock (or, say, a nocturnal lizard on the verge of starvation). He's pretty much hiding in his hide and shifting sleeping positions. However, he pooped! I'm guessing the stillness isn't unusual considering he ate 5 crickets in 12 hours, dude's stomach probably needs to relearn how to digest things  Also I was wrong, there was only 6 leos in the tank: five chubby ladies with tails thicker than my thumbs and this poor guy. He is now King Stitch of Desktopia.
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weavernaut posted:I'm in Baden-Wuerttemberg, in Karlsruhe. That's nearish Baden Baden. First thing I found is this: Terraristikmesse (Reptile Expo) Karlsruhe 2013 Dates: 09.11.2013 08.03.2014 05.07.2014 08.11.2014 Venue: Kongresszentrum Karlsruhe Festplatz 9 76137 Karlsruhe Open: 10 am to 4 pm Admission: 7 EUR http://www.messeninfo.de/Terraristikmesse-M5430/Karlsruhe.html Also not too far and pretty soon: Reptilienbörse Rolinski Aschaffenburg Date: 18.08.2013 Venue: Eissporthalle Stadtbadstr. 1 63739 Aschaffenburg, Deutschland Admission 6 EUR http://www.reptilienboersen-rolinski.de/ (This one is apparently held on a semi-annual basis) Since you have a quarterly event one right in your town I think getting small packs of mice on a regular basis should be no big problem :-) Hopper fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Jul 27, 2013 |
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an expert posted:I'll definitely give the waxworms a shot then, once he's through these crickets, and bear that in mind about soaking him. Today he's being a lot less active and more like a rock (or, say, a nocturnal lizard on the verge of starvation). He's pretty much hiding in his hide and shifting sleeping positions. However, he pooped! I'm guessing the stillness isn't unusual considering he ate 5 crickets in 12 hours, dude's stomach probably needs to relearn how to digest things Yeah that's pretty normal. Toast used to plow down 8-10 crickets at a time when he was growing and then sprawl out under his half-log for the next day or so, then come out searching around the next evening. Definitely do some soaks, leopards get most of their moisture from prey and he's probably been/is still a bit dehydrated. Not every day, but maybe once or twice a week until he's got some weight back on him and the tail is getting round again. He'll probably hate them and do the angry scream-hiss initially but he'll get over it.
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Yeah, that gecko looks emaciated and dehydrated, but if he's eating and especially if he gets grumpy at you, it sounds normal  My lizard only stayed put for soaks in lukewarm (make sure it's way below what you would consider lukewarm, too, so like mid 60s water to start) when she was on the verge of death. Now it's freak out time, and only misting works.
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Big Centipede posted:Oh, I missed that ball... I'd keep the ball on rats and nothing else. So besides the smelly turds there anything else to watch out for if I were decide to switch to a mostly chick diet? It is getting time to reorder food for the corns so I thought I'd maybe try them out. Also I finally managed to get a photo of the new little crested to fire up.  
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Jul 27, 2013 23:15
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Cless Alvein posted:So besides the smelly turds there anything else to watch out for if I were decide to switch to a mostly chick diet? It is getting time to reorder food for the corns so I thought I'd maybe try them out. I believe chicks are a bit leaner than rats, but I feed my ratsnakes mostly chicks and have never had any issues. I still switch it up every once in a while though. I wouldn't give chicks to the ball though, since they can sometimes get "stuck" on one type of prey item and refuse anything else.
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Hopper posted:First thing I found is this: Oh, rad! I might check it out. I doubt we'll be in a position to get a pet by November, but it can't hurt to look.
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Theres really no issue though if the ball likes the chicks and..you dont plan on varying the diet??? My room already smells like rear end once all four of them take a dump, I dont want to imagine chickpoops. 
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Jul 28, 2013 00:39
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So wait...I shouldn't put a water dish in my leos' tanks because they don't actually drink it? I've kept them for 5 years and never heard of this.
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Malalol posted:Theres really no issue though if the ball likes the chicks and..you dont plan on varying the diet??? Mainly because the place I order from doesn't always have chicks, but rats are always easy to find. As far as poop smell goes, it's not much worse than rat poop. Poop's poop... it's not going to smell like a botanical garden 
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No, you should really put a water dish in there anyways. They'll drink, but pretty rarely. Better to have and not need than vice-versa.
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Yeah mine is more likely to just go traipsing through the thing, but occasionally I see her duck her head down for a sip
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Let's play the "are these chameleons healthy/do they have a good future ahead of them" game http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/pet/3971439455.html It is so tiny and cute 
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They look fine, but here's the lovely thing about Jackson's; they're a live birth species, so most of the time, some of the babies will do fine right up until around the 2-3mo mark, and then suddenly drop dead for no god drat reason at all. Those babies are neonates, and while they seem relatively fine now, this person could unload 10-20 babies for $20 each and have all of them die after they've moved on to new homes. Not to mention a novice keeper can dehydrate a Jacksons quicker than I can kill a plant. It's a heavy mist species, used to mountainous regions, and baby chams of any kind are touchy as hell to take care of.
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I know pine shaving are a no-go, but I'm considering adding pine needles to my Southern Pine snakes enclosure. They would mostly be hand collected sandpine needles and rinsed before adding them. I've seen snakes at zoos with pine needles, and I'd like to make her cage a bit more realistic. Thoughts? Edit: Also, this was a few posts down below the other chameleon ad on that craigslist: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/pet/3965775511.html
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