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Warchicken posted:I think wiener is just sex addicted and unable to grasp that he can't trust these women not to go public. My god, what a national security nightmare. Don't foriegn services just salivate at the propects of a congressman like this?
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My dad got on rush when he was talking about how post Katrina New Orleans was just fine, and god him off. Then he used the recording to make some crazy noise music: http://open.spotify.com/track/6689vQ1Md9YS1vXaLTy7hs Just thought I'd drop a little weird on you.
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Unzip and Attack posted:Either way, try to be as absurd as possible. That's a high bar right there based on what I've been hearing lately. Try to tell him your a member of the undercover CIA website known as "SomethingAwful.com". Oh, wait, that's Beck. They've been running ads for black conservatives on Rush's show, denouncing the NAACP and claiming that black conservatives can't be heard (because Clarence Thomas, Alan Keyes, Herman Cain, Mike Steele, Alan West, Thomas Sowell, Tim Scott, JC Watts, Gary Franks, Condi Rice and Ken Hamblin, to name a few, apparently do not exist). Which is funny because I've heard of all those people. Rush is also bending over backwards trying to connect Weiner, Bill Clinton and Elliot Spitzer with Huma Weiner, Hillary Clinton and with the Democrat party in general. It's all he's talked about this week. I've been doing a lot of driving and sportstalk has been boring, especially thins time of year.
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Jul 26, 2013 19:43
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There's an interesting new avenue for GOP black outreach. Just pretend like they've already bought in and care about why the black guys in the party that's trying to get black people to stop voting so much aren't getting a fair shake.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:That the thing though. Both sides have painted a Keynes style recovery as pure communism. Both parties have embraced co-cyclical spending with unmitigated disasters in between. Hard fought knowledge has been lost to greed and fear. You're acting like this is a bad thing and not a sign the system is still healthy and keeping the proper people away from the decision making table. quote:My god, what a national security nightmare. Don't foriegn services just salivate at the propects of a congressman like this? It's called a honeypot and is as old as spying is.
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SilentD posted:You're acting like this is a bad thing You think major market crashes and preventable bubbles are "working as intended" ?
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Babylon Astronaut posted:That the thing though. Both sides have painted a Keynes style recovery as pure communism. Not really. where are you getting that from? Most Democrats and Obama in particular were pushing very much for a more aggressive Keynes style stimulus package in the wake of the 08 recession. The fact that a lot of Democrats are simply cowards and think they can always play nice with the other side and carve out some grand compromise doesn't mean they buy into the GOP rhetoric about socialism, government takeovers and austerity measures. It has more to do with the way that campaign are financed and that you can't get elected or pass anything without playing some ball. Democrats are just weaker for some reason.
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Jul 26, 2013 20:49
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SilentD posted:You're acting like this is a bad thing and not a sign the system is still healthy and keeping the proper people away from the decision making table. "Proper decision makers": me, my tennis pals, guys on the good escort lists.
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BiggerBoat posted:Not really. where are you getting that from? From what I remember Larry Summers sure wasn't.
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BiggerBoat posted:Democrats are just weaker for some reason. Probably because they think the best way to solve problems is acting like adults and having a discussion rather than running around screaming and stamping their feet until they get 99% of the things they want. Unfortunately the latter seems to be more effective in modern American politics.
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Hannity had a group of college republicans who were banned from Obama's economic speech Wednesday due to being seen as a threat. What really happened is they were staging a demonstration and had to have they're protest in a designated area away from the assembly where Obama was giving his speech. This was of course an giant outrage to Sean, but wasn't that a policy adopted by Bush and his buddies for people wanting to protest Iraq and Afghanistan? Like you protest but you have to do it over here where you won't have any impact, it's only a disgrace NOW that it's happening to his side.
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I'm pretty sure the Democrats pioneered the "sure you can protest but you have to do it in this square two thousand feet away from the event and maybe there are police surrounding you" idea around the 2000 election but the Republicans were quick to see the value and ran with it.
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According to wikipedia the first instance of it was at the 1988 Democratic National Convention to prevent pro-life protesters form disrupting the convention. So yeah.
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SilentD posted:You're acting like this is a bad thing and not a sign the system is still healthy and keeping the proper people away from the decision making table.
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Jul 26, 2013 22:43
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CharlestheHammer posted:The problem is you act like it isn't bad. Demonstrate why its working just fine as is or why the alternative is worse. I mean I know that you of all people won't but whatever. The system works because hippies, the worst people in the world, don't control the decision making
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Listening to Mark Levin right now, he's declared that the Republican Party is now at war with true conservatives. He spent about 5 minutes denouncing Paul Ryan as a big government RINO, then moved on to Chris Christie then to the party itself, mentioning Karl Rove as a big government activist. I haven't been following the right wing media too closely, but if this is where things are then the civil war is much more progressed than I had thought, and it doesn't seem like the moderates are winning. I know it's pretty much common knowledge now, but still pretty jarring. Break out the popcorn folks, it has begun. icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Jul 27, 2013 |
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icantfindaname posted:Listening to Mark Levin right now, he's declared that the Republican Party is now at war with true conservatives. He spent about 5 minutes denouncing Paul Ryan as a big government RINO, then moved on to Chris Christie then to the party itself, mentioning Karl Rove as a big government activist. Who is he even attacking/defending/preaching to anymore?
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Jul 27, 2013 12:20
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icantfindaname posted:Listening to Mark Levin right now, he's declared that the Republican Party is now at war with true conservatives. He spent about 5 minutes denouncing Paul Ryan as a big government RINO, then moved on to Chris Christie then to the party itself, mentioning Karl Rove as a big government activist. It's going to be funny to see the same thing happen to Rand Paul, Louie Gomert, Steve King, etc in a few years time when they can't deliver on their extreme right stuff.
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Get a new schtick SilentD. The haunting spectre of the hippy becomes less menacing by the day.
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happyhippy posted:It's going to be funny to see the same thing happen to Rand Paul, Louie Gomert, Steve King, etc in a few years time when they can't deliver on their extreme right stuff. God, if representatives start getting elected to the right of Gohmert, we're in some deep poo poo.
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Muslim wrote a book about the historical Jesus. Apparently being a Muslim means you have to ignore his twenty years of study. I watched the interview and thought he handled himself well, but wasn't speaking the language of Fair and Balance 
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HootTheOwl posted:Muslim wrote a book about the historical Jesus. Apparently being a Muslim means you have to ignore his twenty years of study. I watched the interview and thought he handled himself well, but wasn't speaking the language of Fair and Balance What was he thinking? "Hey, a famous propaganda network that actively works to villify history, Muslims, and religious self-reflection wants to interview me live. This is absolutely a good idea."
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I was gonna cut him some slack for being a foreigner but apparently he's been in the US since the Iranian Revolution. Seriously, how does he not realize that Fox is basically the Daily Mail as run by Joseph Goebbels?
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Pixelboy posted:My god, what a national security nightmare. Don't foriegn services just salivate at the propects of a congressman like this? Not if he has no useful committee assignments! (Or other ties to sensitive information.) Far as I can tell Weiner was pretty much just on Energy and Commerce. Which I guess might be worth a bit of light blackmail.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:What was he thinking? Well, it was, since his book just skyrocketed up the Amazon charts: http://www.amazon.com/Zealot-Life-Times-Jesus-Nazareth/dp/140006922X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1375032824&sr=8-1&keywords=zealot
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Mel Mudkiper posted:What was he thinking? Yea what a loving idiot, figuring out that dealing with ten minutes of a racist bitch equals tons of free press as people go 'what a racist bitch' and talk about his book.
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Best part was when she pulls out William Lane Craig to attack him, a sure sign it was a set up hit piece. And Craig is a 'religious philospher' too lol.
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XyloJW posted:Cool Maher chat, let's do this again inevitably. What'd Rush do today? I know you're trying to keep up the general right-wing focus, but let's remember that right wing radio / television has spawned several mimics, including Maher (who is really a libertarian and has espoused some *very* conservative views at times in the past), Olberman, etc., and networks like Air America that, whether successful or not, tried to make right wing model work for them. I agree that the "Who's worse, Maher or Rush?" chat was going nowhere, but I think examining the impact of right wing media on political and national discourse also needs to include looking at its mirror reflection, and how it's changed the landscape for left-biased commentary, where it's been able to take root (which, really, isn't in many places). Is the goal of this thread really just to be a circle jerk about how Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot, and Sean Hannity is a douche, and Mark Levin is insane and sounds like Master Shake - all of which are true - or can it also be a discussion of what right wing media is, was, and may become, and how that's influenced political discourse (on television / radio) in this country? In that vein, wouldn't a discussion of people like Maher and Olberman be appropriate?
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Walter posted:In that vein, wouldn't a discussion of people like Maher and Olberman be appropriate? It always winds up a massive derail and a deflection of any discussion of actual right wingers. Maybe make a separate thread about that, along with debate over whether people like Maher are actually "left"?
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It was appropriate for the reasons you mentioned, but at that point it was really going in circles. The topic had all but petered out until someone came back in and said "Rush and Maher are the exact same except for talent" which brought us back to square one, and it'd been more than a day and 3 pages of this. I said "do it again inevitably" because I can see how it's relevant to the topic and it is pretty interesting, and I'm sure it will come up again. But at that moment it seemed sort of stale and it seemed to me the best way to fix that was to change the subject for a bit. I could've been wrong. 
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BiggerBoat posted:(because Clarence Thomas, Alan Keyes, Herman Cain, Mike Steele, Alan West, Thomas Sowell, Tim Scott, JC Watts, Gary Franks, Condi Rice and Ken Hamblin, to name a few, apparently do not exist). Which is funny because I've heard of all those people. I rarely hear anything by Clarence Thomas or Condi Rice. These days, Mike Steele sounds more like a fiscally conservative Democrat than a Republican, hell he could be in the Obama administration based on some of his policies. I enjoy listening to J.C. Watts on the rare occasions he gives interviews. I get the impression that he's a guy who is totally disillusioned by the GOP, a man sincere in his beliefs that just looks around and thinks, my god, how did my party get to this point. I don't think he could win an election at this point because he's not crazy enough to be one of the good ones. icantfindaname posted:Listening to Mark Levin right now, he's declared that the Republican Party is now at war with true conservatives. Levin is just an outright anarchist. He really does want to, and practically advocates, burning everything to the ground and starting over. Just to get rid of the tyranny of course. He's a strong advocate for shutting down the government to stop Obamacare and denounces any Republican that refuses to do it as a traitor and not a true conservative. I think its fascinating that all of these talking heads have started to differentiate between a Republican and a conservative. Hannity says he is a conservative, not a member of the GOP. radical meme fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jul 28, 2013 |
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HootTheOwl posted:Muslim wrote a book about the historical Jesus. Apparently being a Muslim means you have to ignore his twenty years of study. I watched the interview and thought he handled himself well, but wasn't speaking the language of Fair and Balance To no one's surprise it's currently being downvoted on amazon with claims of "he's a muslim". He might want to consider firing whoever does his booking. edit: though to be fair it's not like these people would have bought it anyway. Sankis fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Jul 28, 2013 |
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Sankis posted:To no one's surprise it's currently being downvoted on amazon with claims of "he's a muslim". The one star reviews are magical: 
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Not factual history, unlike the bible, which accurately describes lots of things including millions of animals fitting on a small boat, the entire planet filling with water, and trumpets knocking down a wall after several days.
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Jesus advocated that there were no kings on earth, but the one king in heaven that all men must eventually bow before, but no he was no political revolutionary, he was apolitical and blonde.
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radical meme posted:These days, Mike Steele sounds more like a fiscally conservative Democrat than a Republican, hell he could be in the Obama administration based on some of his policies. Also, radical meme, what happened to your Edward avatar? It saddens me that it's gone, Edward is an awesome character, and the main reason to me that Cowboy Bebop lived up to the hype. fade5 fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jul 28, 2013 |
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I'm not sure why people who are super religious (as some of those Amazon commenters seem to be) would buy a book that clearly labels Jesus as ZEALOT. I mean the word... I'm expecting too much aren't I? I read the guy's wikipedia page and it seems he converted to evangelical Christianity and then back to Islam, and I'm sure that's not going to do him any favors with the pitchfork crowd.
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Bonapartisan posted:I'm not sure why people who are super religious (as some of those Amazon commenters seem to be) would buy a book that clearly labels Jesus as ZEALOT. I mean the word... I'm expecting too much aren't I? Zealot isn't really a pejorative in Christianity. Being zealous in God's work is positive. Even the historical definition of "A member of a Jewish movement of the first century a.d. that fought against Roman rule in Palestine as incompatible with strict monotheism." while not being strictly true, wouldn't turn any of these people off from the book.
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Miltank posted:Zealot isn't really a pejorative in Christianity. Being zealous in God's work is positive. Oh, I know. But usually I find that the word gets a takes on a negative rather than a positive meaning, and while I don't think that was the author's intent, I tried to put myself in a super religious person's shoes and I just feel like they would take it poorly rather than not. Not too clear, I guess. Sorry.
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Bonapartisan posted:I'm not sure why people who are super religious (as some of those Amazon commenters seem to be) would buy a book that clearly labels Jesus as ZEALOT. I mean the word... I'm expecting too much aren't I? Why do you think these people would let something like actually buying (or even reading) the book get in the way of calling in garbage? 
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