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Exmond posted:Ill translate to how you played in eve terms. I was following one of the expansion plans linked earlier in the thread, and I've been watching playthroughs on youtube. I wasn't aware from what i'd seen/read that I would be likely to get attacked this early. Oh well lesson learned.
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twoot posted:I was following one of the expansion plans linked earlier in the thread, and I've been watching playthroughs on youtube. I wasn't aware from what i'd seen/read that I would be likely to get attacked this early. Yeah the super-poland expansion plan hinges on you not being near to super-aggressive AIs. The AI is now much more reluctant to go to war (even for AIs that were previously quite war-happy), but Atilla's a nasty piece of work.
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That Poland Liberty/Tradition super-combo would be so much better if the 13-year-old who wrote it could type...
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Aug 2, 2013 23:43
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Any of you guys using that Giant Earth map from Yet Not Another Earth Maps Pack? Playing as America with 21 other players is a hilarious prospect, 251 turns in and I have total control over the Western Hemisphere with nearly every inch of the Eastern conquered by what seems to be like, I dunno, the other 19 players. Makes conquering hard, I tell ya!
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Speedball posted:That Poland Liberty/Tradition super-combo would be so much better if the 13-year-old who wrote it could type... There's a cleaned up breakdown here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=12616398&postcount=60 I think I'm going to try it later, myself.
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Aug 3, 2013 00:23
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Just added myself to the Steam group as Hot Carl Hollywood. I've never been past Prince/whatever the civ 4 equivalent was, hopefully not everyone in the group is a deity-playing wizard.  I'll be up late if anyone wants to try a game tonight.
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Kyrosiris posted:There's a cleaned up breakdown here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=12616398&postcount=60 It isn't bad, but it doesn't account for your needing to tech for luxury development. You'll tech to Calendar for Philosophy and you take Mining to clear forests, but if you get Marble, Furs or Ivory you'll have to sidetrack or have happiness issues long before you get to Construction. In fact, I'd say you almost have to take Trapping before D&P if you can build Circuses.
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Jedit posted:It isn't bad, but it doesn't account for your needing to tech for luxury development. You'll tech to Calendar for Philosophy and you take Mining to clear forests, but if you get Marble, Furs or Ivory you'll have to sidetrack or have happiness issues long before you get to Construction. In fact, I'd say you almost have to take Trapping before D&P if you can build Circuses. The timing for a lot of things don't always work out - I had to reload and chop forests to get the monument done in time in my 4th city for Legalism. Not to mention fending off Assyria's DOW after we declared friendship. 
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Jedit posted:It isn't bad, but it doesn't account for your needing to tech for luxury development. You'll tech to Calendar for Philosophy and you take Mining to clear forests, but if you get Marble, Furs or Ivory you'll have to sidetrack or have happiness issues long before you get to Construction. In fact, I'd say you almost have to take Trapping before D&P if you can build Circuses. Don't deviate for hunting luxuries, they're not worth going for. Marble you definitely want to get if you have it available though. The goal of the build is to get to universities ASAP while getting a million social policies, deviate to construction if you need bowmen and masonry if you have marble but otherwise just push down the top of the tree. CS quests can float your happiness for a long time, don't be afraid to go down to ~5 unhappiness. Having a city capped at size 1 due to unhappiness for a dozen turns or so isn't the end of the world. uPen fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Aug 3, 2013 |
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Oh yeah well I'm going to play the Maya for the first time since BNW hit and play the religion game a bit, chase a diplo victory with insane gold and faith per turn, all that good stuff. Oh and I have a pretty good Petra city lined up for my 3rd settler. Although I don't think I can beat the Emperor AI to Petra now, my Engineer is going to be too late. And now Harun just completed it - I don't even like Civ.
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Aug 3, 2013 01:34
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Anyone know if the mayan UA still increases subsequent GP point costs?
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Aug 3, 2013 04:15
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I'm on the way to a diplomatic victory right now, but if I continue playing afterwards, can I get the other victories as well?
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Aug 3, 2013 04:17
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I wish Kael was still around the modding scene, I'd love to see something FFH2-esque using Civ 5's engine. Warlock:MOTA doesn't count, that barely counts as Civ-lite.
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Aug 3, 2013 04:28
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You could do some pretty great stuff with Faith as a mana-like resource and social policy trees as different specializations of magic. Maybe religion could be academies of magic or something.
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Aug 3, 2013 04:32
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Aug 3, 2013 04:43
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Just had the weirdest game... I've never known Carthage and the Ottomans to be super agressive (though Dido is kind of insane), but for some reason they joined an unbreakable alliance and had a massive perma-hate on for me for no drat reason. I beat back their forces constantly, but they refused to make peace. It was like playing Civ 4 all over again.
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Aug 3, 2013 04:52
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What is wrong with Shaka?! He has been constantly declaring war on me all game and losing pathetically. Between wars we are all great buddies and declaring friendships and making defensive pacts but he just ignores them. Is it possible to be friends with Shaka?
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Aug 3, 2013 04:54
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That's weird since Shaka is one of the most loyal leaders. Every stat varies by 20% each game so it's possible to get him to be less faithful, but he's not usually a Nobunaga or Elizabeth.
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Aug 3, 2013 04:59
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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TheGame posted:That's weird since Shaka is one of the most loyal leaders. Every stat varies by 20% each game so it's possible to get him to be less faithful, but he's not usually a Nobunaga or Elizabeth. He has by far been the most aggressive civ I have played against yet. I can guarantee that within 10 turns of our peace treaty ending he will rush his army to my border again. I have zero negative modifiers in the diplomacy screen. He has to die.
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Aug 3, 2013 05:24
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jtm33 posted:What is wrong with Shaka?! He has been constantly declaring war on me all game and losing pathetically. Between wars we are all great buddies and declaring friendships and making defensive pacts but he just ignores them. Is it possible to be friends with Shaka? Shaka is the hardest to make friends with but he has the highest loyalty rating in the game so it really shouldn't be happening this way unless you're super close and you're running light on army.
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If anyone's curious about how we know the exact stats of AI personalities, here's the (absolutely massive) image detailing every XML value. They vary by 2 values for each game, so a value of 8 could be anywhere between 6 and 10 for any given game. You can see how much Gandhi loves nukes and how much Shaka loves to stay bros. TheGame fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Aug 3, 2013 |
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SirKibbles posted:Shaka is the hardest to make friends with but he has the highest loyalty rating in the game so it really shouldn't be happening this way unless you're super close and you're running light on army. I have good defences but keep a small army, this has to be the only reason why. Also he has 4 cities within 4 tiles of my border.
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If you actually get a DoF with shaka you're set. Just being neutral doesn't count as friends.
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TheGame posted:If anyone's curious about how we know the exact stats of AI personalities, here's the (absolutely massive) image detailing every XML value. They vary by 2 values for each game, so a value of 8 could be anywhere between 6 and 10 for any given game. Its still too small. Can you link to a bigger image?
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Unless you have one of those 3200xwhatever monitors you just aren't seeing it full size. Open it in a new tab, the timg expander has a max size for tables or something. That thing is huge.
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Jastiger posted:Its still too small. Can you link to a bigger image? Here you go: http://i.imgur.com/X5cLaZQ.png It’s the same link. 
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Platystemon posted:Here you go: Slightly updated version of the chart: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=11584962
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Aug 3, 2013 07:29
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Perhaps this is old news, but the Steam achievement bugs appear to have been ironed out. I can go back to old saves where I beat the game and didn't receive the achievements, finish the game again, and get the achievements recognized.
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Wu Zetian just finished the Manhattan Project and then agreed to trade away all her uranium  I guess she was okay with me nuking the hell out of the Shoshone.
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Am I getting the culture bonuses wrong, or are civs with buildings and units that generate culture not really as great at culture victory as they are at preventing other civs' culture victories from happening?
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Right. Social policy bonuses (Poland), building bonuses and unit bonuses (Aztec) add to your culture defense but never to your tourism. Brazilwood camps/tile improvements and wonders do add to your tourism via hotels and airports, so there are a few very clear cultural civs.
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TheGame posted:Brazilwood camps/tile improvements and wonders do add to your tourism via hotels and airports, so there are a few very clear cultural civs. The hotel/airport description only lists landmarks, moʻai, and châteaux. I don’t know if Brazilwood camps were overlooked in the description or if they really don’t generate tourism.
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Aug 3, 2013 08:23
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Any tile improvement that generates culture. Brazilwood camps do indeed generate tourism with a Hotel, as do (I believe) holy sites with full piety. Also, gold/silver/pastures with the appropriate pantheon. That tooltip would definitely benefit from an 'e.g.' in the parentheses.
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According to that chart Gandhi has between a 10 and 14 Nuke score on any given game. Holy poo poo, that is glorious.
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Aug 3, 2013 08:40
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Alexander's column is pretty hilarious because it sets out in plain and simple numerical terms how much of a complete prick he is.
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Super Jay Mann posted:Alexander's column is pretty hilarious because it sets out in plain and simple numerical terms how much of a complete prick he is. I've never played as Alex before, so since I'm suffering from insomnia, perhaps I shall give being a colossal prick a test drive.
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Pvt.Scott posted:I've never played as Alex before, so since I'm suffering from insomnia, perhaps I shall give being a colossal prick a test drive. Remember to immediately denounce the 1st person you meet and buy all the city states.
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And make sure to get the forbidden palace and found the world congress. Pretty soon you'll just be issuing decrees.
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Super Jay Mann posted:Alexander's column is pretty hilarious because it sets out in plain and simple numerical terms how much of a complete prick he is. On the other hand, he has a 3 in city-state competitiveness, the one area where I would expect him to be the biggest dick.
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Pvt.Scott posted:I've never played as Alex before, so since I'm suffering from insomnia, perhaps I shall give being a colossal prick a test drive. Declare war on everyone when you unlock your unique units, even if you can’t realistically beat them or even get to them.
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