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Does anyone know how they choose the Hall of Fame Game teams? Is it just a raffle? Because the choices always seem so random to me. Cowboys vs Dolphins and last year was Saints and Cardinals. Obviously it is AFC vs NFC, but beyond that I just can't see a pattern.
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Aug 3, 2013 21:56
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Chichevache posted:Does anyone know how they choose the Hall of Fame Game teams? Is it just a raffle? Because the choices always seem so random to me. Cowboys vs Dolphins and last year was Saints and Cardinals. Obviously it is AFC vs NFC, but beyond that I just can't see a pattern. Aren't both the Saints and Cards in the NFC?
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Aug 3, 2013 22:00
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Atomic Spud posted:Aren't both the Saints and Cards in the NFC? poo poo. You're right. Well now I'm really confused
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Aug 3, 2013 22:01
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From Wikipedia "With the exceptions of 2009 and 2012, the opponents for each game have typically included one AFC team against one NFC team since 1971. In 2009, as recognition of the 50th season of the charter members of the American Football League, the game paired two of the "original eight" franchises of that league, the Tennessee Titans (dressed as their previous incarnation, the Houston Oilers) and the Buffalo Bills, whose owner, Ralph Wilson, was inducted into the Hall that year." so it's apparently AFC vs NFC except when they don't feel like it.
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Aug 3, 2013 22:36
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So in other words, it's totally random and two teams get stuck with 5 preseason games for no real reason. Got it.
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Aug 3, 2013 23:25
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I was hoping they would have some rhyme or reason, like at least choosing teams that some of the inductees played for. So if four of the inductees had played for the Cowboys or Dolphins this year would make sense. Otherwise... 
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Aug 3, 2013 23:34
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Benne posted:So in other words, it's totally random and two teams get stuck with 5 preseason games for no real reason. Got it. Fortunately, nobody watches it anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
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Aug 4, 2013 06:10
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Deteriorata posted:Fortunately, nobody watches it anyway, so it doesn't really matter. I already have my recording set up just in case I can't watch the whole thing live.
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Aug 4, 2013 06:47
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Anyone that has Gamepass know any working promo codes this season for Season Plus? Or a referral link.
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Aug 9, 2013 23:11
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I have a referral link bt it doesn't make it any cheaper http://gamepass.nfl.com/nflgp/raf/UUMCHTKRDW8R
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Aug 10, 2013 04:57
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How much non-video data do defensive coordinators have available during the season? What kind of things do they use to predict which route a receiver will run on a given play, how deep they'll break, how frequently they're targeted on a given play/when running that route? How much of this detailed information is available to them, where does it come from, and most importantly how deep do they go into analysis? I'm assuming it's mostly video based and they go by those screenshots you see in binders, but was curious as to how extensively numerical analysis comes into play.
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Aug 10, 2013 20:02
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Good Will Hrunting posted:How much non-video data do defensive coordinators have available during the season? What kind of things do they use to predict which route a receiver will run on a given play, how deep they'll break, how frequently they're targeted on a given play/when running that route? How much of this detailed information is available to them, where does it come from, and most importantly how deep do they go into analysis? I'm assuming it's mostly video based and they go by those screenshots you see in binders, but was curious as to how extensively numerical analysis comes into play. As much as they want, pending the sleep needs of their QCs. Generally you can reverse engineer an opponent's playbook pretty well from a couple games of video for all of this stuff, although obviously you don't have their terminology. Good coaches are able to figure out tells for what the other team will do when. Better coaches are able to self-scout their own tells and act accordingly.
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Aug 11, 2013 01:20
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Can someone explain why like 3 of the first 4 draft picks were used on right tackles? And why they are using the drafted left tackles to play the right tackle position? Are the skillsets different? I would think that a good left tackle would be a great right tackle, and a good right tackle would make an ok to poor left tackle
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Aug 12, 2013 15:22
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The plan will be to move them to the left as they gain more experience. Fisher, Joeckel, and Johnson are all regarded as stud left tackle prospects but it sometimes takes a bit of time to bed into. Fluker's too slow for the left but he's such a monster and San Diego were so desperate, he went in the first anyway.
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Aug 12, 2013 16:18
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Also more and more the elite pass rushers are now going after the RT since the LT is presumably the better player.
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Aug 12, 2013 19:09
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It really underscores how Jake Long was a monster prospect given how he stepped in and immediately was a top 5 LT in the NFL (miss u)
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Aug 12, 2013 20:59
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For the Eagles specifically, not that they couldn't use either side at the RT spot, but they needed a RT much more than LT. Those guys were consensus Top 5 picks as well, even in places that weren't The Lineman Funhouse like here. They just happened to play RT in college.
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Aug 13, 2013 00:24
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Good Will Hrunting posted:How much non-video data do defensive coordinators have available during the season? What kind of things do they use to predict which route a receiver will run on a given play, how deep they'll break, how frequently they're targeted on a given play/when running that route? How much of this detailed information is available to them, where does it come from, and most importantly how deep do they go into analysis? I'm assuming it's mostly video based and they go by those screenshots you see in binders, but was curious as to how extensively numerical analysis comes into play. Some folks I previously worked with were able to leave astrophysics and start their own business when they started applying some of the statistical analysis tools to football statistics. Things like how often quarterback 'w' on team 'x' throws to the left side when faced with defense alignment 'y' with 'z' minutes left in the half. Once entered, they run modeling programs and Monte Carlo simulations to predict risk and potential outcomes. I haven't spoken with them in a while but I've heard they are communicating with teams at every level..
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Aug 13, 2013 16:43
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oddIXIbbo posted:Some folks I previously worked with were able to leave astrophysics and start their own business when they started applying some of the statistical analysis tools to football statistics. Things like how often quarterback 'w' on team 'x' throws to the left side when faced with defense alignment 'y' with 'z' minutes left in the half. That's really cool. One of the reasons I asked is because I've been playing around with HTML5's "canvas" and also some SVG libraries. I've been attempting to turn tracked data into visualizations. It's a hobby project that I've only just begun, but it seems like a reasonably barren problem domain, at least on the level I'm envisioning.
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Aug 13, 2013 16:53
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oddIXIbbo posted:Some folks I previously worked with were able to leave astrophysics and start their own business when they started applying some of the statistical analysis tools to football statistics. Things like how often quarterback 'w' on team 'x' throws to the left side when faced with defense alignment 'y' with 'z' minutes left in the half. That sounds really cool, but football resists these sort of sabermetric efforts because there are so many more moving pieces than baseball. In baseball it is essentially the same play repeated over 2000 games over a 100 years of record. That's a lot of data. In football, you may only have 30 pass attempts in a game, and to different receivers with different coverages in different yardage situations. There are just too many variables with too few plays for this to make sense. It becomes a model of the simplfying assumptions instead of anything more illuminating.
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Aug 13, 2013 17:23
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Ron Jeremy posted:That sounds really cool, but football resists these sort of sabermetric efforts because there are so many more moving pieces than baseball. I don't think that's it. I work in basketball, where there is plenty of moving pieces, and much more acceptance of analytic efforts, although obviously still not nearly universal. I was at a stats-in-sports conference a few years ago and saw a panel of football assistant GMs discussing the topic. When they were asked how their coaches used analytics, they kind of averted their eyes and said that they supply the coach with the data and it's up to him to use it as he sees fit, implying that their coaches had no use for it. Things may be different now or maybe among other teams, but it sure seems to me like football coaches are still at the place baseball managers were in the pre-Bill James era.
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It really depends on how you would use a program like that. Its going to be more accurate about how good an idea it is to go for a 4th down with 4 minutes left then say, should I throw or pass on the 5th play of the game. In short time situations, just the way football flows constrains the problem enough where you could probably just be using the league averages of possible play successes, timeout usage, etc. Just having it around to effectively use time outs at the end of the game is probably worth while.
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Aug 14, 2013 05:06
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Blitz7x posted:Can someone explain why like 3 of the first 4 draft picks were used on right tackles? And why they are using the drafted left tackles to play the right tackle position? Are the skillsets different? I would think that a good left tackle would be a great right tackle, and a good right tackle would make an ok to poor left tackle IN the Eagles case, they needed Line help basically everywhere and Johnson was the BPA pick. And Jason Peters owns so hard at LT. When not drag racing. Or injuring himself on a wheel-a-bout
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Aug 14, 2013 06:29
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I don't know if it is in the scope of this thread, but it is a rookie question so here goes: for Packers and Bengals fans who do you follow for good reporting? I've currently got both teams followed on twitter and I also got Rob Demovsky followed as well. Is he a good follow? Who are the good local guys for both teams?
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Aug 15, 2013 04:43
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Lessail posted:I don't know if it is in the scope of this thread, but it is a rookie question so here goes: for Packers and Bengals fans who do you follow for good reporting? I've currently got both teams followed on twitter and I also got Rob Demovsky followed as well. Is he a good follow? Who are the good local guys for both teams? Joe Reedy is the main beat writer for the Bengals. For non-twitter sources the Bengals SBNation blog (Cincy Jungle) is also pretty good.
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Aug 17, 2013 01:00
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What does it mean when the third preseason game is referred to as a dress rehearsal? Will every team keep their starters out the entire game or what? And if the third game is the rehearsal, what does that mean for game four?
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Aug 18, 2013 01:13
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Starters are out there the longest, typically, but not longer than about a half. It's also the time they might call more of the actual plays they'll run in the regular season. And yes, it means game 4 is almost all backups. Often that's because they want to see the most of those guys right before they have to make some cuts, so they want to see the backups a lot.
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Aug 18, 2013 01:18
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Spaseman posted:What does it mean when the third preseason game is referred to as a dress rehearsal? Will every team keep their starters out the entire game or what? And if the third game is the rehearsal, what does that mean for game four? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWmQbk5h86w
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Aug 18, 2013 02:53
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If anyone has questions about rules or officiating, the rules thread is once again open for business and welcomes all questions, no matter how basic. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3566056
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1.) Is there way to find out when the Packers will play the Dolphins at Lambeau again? 2.) How long till Burt Fave is inducted to the Hall o Fame as a Packer?
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Aug 23, 2013 02:36
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1. Not definitively I don't think, you can probably figure out when the AFCE gets the NFCN next but it would depend on the previous year's finish. 2. That's probatable these days I believe and never because you don't enter the HoF with a particular team. Or you could look at it as 2016 when he'll enter as a Packer (and Falcon, Jet and Viking).
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Aug 23, 2013 02:42
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Football players don't retire as a member of any team.
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Grittybeard posted:1. Not definitively I don't think, you can probably figure out when the AFCE gets the NFCN next but it would depend on the previous year's finish. The inter-conference match ups have nothing to do with previous years finishes, and actually the inter divisional within the same conference match ups home/away aren't determined by previous record, just the 2 games of the schedule matching you with the other teams that finished with your ranking in their respective divisions changes. The Dolphins play the Packers in GB in 2018, so some time after Brett Favre is inducted to the Hall of Fame, unless he decides to come back again/
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Real hurthling! posted:Football players don't retire as a member of any team. They absolutely do
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Aug 23, 2013 07:28
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SteelAngel2000 posted:They absolutely do I meant like in baseball but was too vague
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Aug 23, 2013 08:15
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Real hurthling! posted:I meant like in baseball but was too vague There's nothing equivalent to the HoF plaque cap but you do see all sorts of players signing symbolic one-day contracts with teams they played on for a long time so they can say they "retired an x".
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Aug 23, 2013 11:24
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KettleWL posted:The inter-conference match ups have nothing to do with previous years finishes, and actually the inter divisional within the same conference match ups home/away aren't determined by previous record, just the 2 games of the schedule matching you with the other teams that finished with your ranking in their respective divisions changes. Huh did that change at some point? I remember trying to figure this out a long time ago for some matchup or other, I guess it's entirely possible I just screwed up.
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Real hurthling! posted:I meant like in baseball but was too vague To clarify because technically correct, etc, football players 100% retire with a team. They are not inducted into the Hall of Fame as a member of a team (no logo on a jersey/helmet/whatever). All the teams have their own Ring of Honor/Wall of Fame/Kiddie Pool of Immortality/Whatever for players whose identities are tied to those teams. Badfinger fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Aug 23, 2013 |
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Checking in. I'm Australian and trying to learn the game from a distance. Got myself Madden '12 and am taking the Seahawks to the Superbowl.
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