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Finished my first game as Shaka. Having the Zulu UA with the +50% combat xp from honor resulted in some pretty crazy units, especially since I was almost constantly in war with someone. Really made me wish you could rename units just to easily keep track how long they had survived. Luckily the impis were pretty easy to regognize thanks to their unique abilities from the Ikandas. That's one of the two original impis I had left alive in the end. He had 237/270 experience and was lvl 8. I actually still had four impis left before the final assault on Berlin, but Bismarck was ahead of me in tech, and and that city had tons of his units around it when I DoW'd him. He also nuked my closest city where I had almost all my bombers in.
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As long as we're smearing all the leaders in the game I want to see people try to do it to... Pocatello and Hiawatha. 
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In BTS, I used to name my units with "1st Warrior", "2nd Warrior" , "5th Longbow" and such to keep track of their age and to have a better grasp who died and where when poo poo went down. I kept the names when upgrading so i was nice to see "2nd Warrior" roll as a mech infantry.
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Aug 4, 2013 21:00
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thehumandignity posted:When you move your siege units into position, there's a chance that the enemy will attack one of them instead of any of your melee units. If so, hopefully the cover promotion allows it to survive.
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Aug 4, 2013 21:03
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Zilkin posted:Finished my first game as Shaka. Having the Zulu UA with the +50% combat xp from honor resulted in some pretty crazy units, especially since I was almost constantly in war with someone. Really made me wish you could rename units just to easily keep track how long they had survived. You can. When they earn a promotion, there's a small "Edit" option on the promotion box, that renames the unit. I tend to rename anyone that gets Logistics or the melee equivalent because they're awesome and deserve awesome names.
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Fojar38 posted:Pocatello and Hiawatha. Hiawatha fought on the side of the British, dirty torrie bastard. I also have it on good authority that he made a bunch of his people march out into the snow to settle lovely little fishing towns there for no reason. Exactly half of this post is historically accurate.
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Aug 4, 2013 21:04
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Fojar38 posted:Pocatello and Hiawatha. Hiawatha was so loving bad at his job that he got crushed by an upstart group of colonies that was dependent on a 3700 mile supply line. Pocatello's UA should be "Doesn't read the fine print on treaties" and that makes you give up a city every time you initiate a trade with another civ, and also might just convert your entire nation to Mormonism.
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Marketing New Brain posted:Signing a bunch of defensive pacts didn't work in real life and helped start wwi, so I fail to see how this is in any way a problem. "I dunno guys, sounds historical to me!  " is always a terrible excuse when it comes up and it still is in this case. There are cases where defensive alliances did help, and there are cases where they didn't, but that should be up to the player and should be simulated in a more logical manner. It also shouldn't completely screw over the player diplomatically unless people love the aggressor. It's the insane diplomatic hit that treats the person supporting another civ as an aggressor that's ridiculous and should be changed. Not to mention the goal of simulating real life is about as dumb as it gets in Civ, everything should be considered for its gameplay implications first. As it is, it's "never sign a defensive pact ever" which makes defensive pacts a terrible system.
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Aug 4, 2013 21:06
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:"I dunno guys, sounds historical to me! Uhh, he signed multiple defensive pacts and wound up in a war he didn't want to be in, something you shouldn't do? I was just giving context for why you wouldn't do that, but the pacts and ai were fine, that was just an unwise decision. Defensive pacts have their place, you should obviously be willing to go to war with that person under just about any circumstances.
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Omnicarus posted:Hiawatha was so loving bad at his job that he got crushed by an upstart group of colonies that was dependent on a 3700 mile supply line. Um you know Hiawatha wasn't around for that (or possibly at all). Frankly "May not have actually existed" is a hell of a thing to include in somebody's civ entry. Just throw it in at the end.
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Marketing New Brain posted:Uhh, he signed multiple defensive pacts and wound up in a war he didn't want to be in, something you shouldn't do? I was just giving context for why you wouldn't do that, but the pacts and ai were fine, that was just an unwise decision. Defensive pacts have their place, you should obviously be willing to go to war with that person under just about any circumstances. The problem isn't that he ended up in a war he didn't want to be in, the problem is how the diplomacy modifiers are applied.
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Blessed Isabella, servant of God, holy queen of Castile and León! Your people greet and welcome you. You are the ruler of Spain, a country that did not exist until you united you kingdom to your husband's, forming a national unity that is still questioned today. You also fought the muslims who had been in the Peninsula for longer than the christians and called it a Reconquest, kicking them out of Spain or forcing them to convert, something you did with the jews too. A seafaring race, Spanish explorers found the New World, where everyone was a savage until they were eventually butchered or taught how to read the Bible. Their gold and silver brought Spain unrivalled wealth, which you rightfully spent building churches and monasteries. Oh fair and virtuous Isabella! Will you take up the mantle of the holy monarchy that still stands today, and send the Inquisition to vanquish your foes under heaven’s watchful eyes? Your adoring subjects await your command! Can you build a civilization that will stand the test of time? edit: i wanted to join this train, especially bc i'm a Spaniard and hate how Spain is portrayed as the most stupidly pious people ever. Cable fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Aug 4, 2013 |
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Hey at least your country is not represented by the most bloodthirsty motherfucker in the game (monty)
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thehumandignity posted:
Huh! I didn't know that even existed. I only knew about Eritrea. 
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Greeting Casimir! You are the king or whatever of Poland, a nation we don't really care to know about but good lord we couldn't take the angry forum posts any longer. The Polish people are apparently bitter nationalists who would rather die than see their little known country left out of a video game. Can you lead them to greatness, or to at least shut the hell up for once? Can you invest in Eastern Poland?
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Aug 4, 2013 22:18
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Austria's should just be this
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Aug 4, 2013 22:22
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I interpret the Polish culture victory as Witcher video games becoming insanely popular around the world, making CDProjektRed the most powerful games developer in existence. Hey, it could happen. Witcher 3 looks awesome.
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Aug 4, 2013 22:32
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The Witcher was certainly developed in Poland considering how shittily optimized the engine is and how ridiculous the art style is.
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Aug 4, 2013 22:34
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I would totally use a "More historically accurate loading screen" mod.
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Fojar38 posted:The Witcher was certainly developed in Poland considering how shittily optimized the engine is and how ridiculous the art style is. Considering that the Witcher uses the Neverwinter 1 engine and looks the way it does, those're fightin' words. (though to be honest load times were awful until they fixed it in the enhanced edition)
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Gort posted:Considering that the Witcher uses the Neverwinter 1 engine and looks the way it does, those're fightin' words. I was mostly referring to the Witcher 2. Haven't played Witcher 1. I really, really, really tried to like the Witcher 2 but there's no excuse for that kind of framerate lag on a high-end compute when it's set to medium. There's no excuse for an interface that unintuitive or the absurd degree of padding that permeates every quest hub, there's no excuse for trying to have a dark and gritty teenager plot in a game where half the cast are dressed like clowns. Which is a shame because I really wanted to like it. But I can't.
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Fojar38 posted:I was mostly referring to the Witcher 2. Haven't played Witcher 1. I really, really, really tried to like the Witcher 2 but there's no excuse for that kind of framerate lag on a high-end compute when it's set to medium. There's no excuse for an interface that unintuitive or the absurd degree of padding that permeates every quest hub, there's no excuse for trying to have a dark and gritty teenager plot in a game where half the cast are dressed like clowns. You're in a really small minority though, most people tend to consider it one of the best RPGs ever made. But I suppose every cultural victory needs to have dissidents somewhere.
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Last call in the thread, starting in 30 minutes. We have five people in group chat ready for game, let's hope we are getting more. Chip in to discussion about game type.quote:Alright. At 1900 hours or 7pm, Eastern Standard Time, we are going for a Quick Speed, Hybrid, Huge Continents, renaissance start, match with as many humans as possible, the host of the game being a 3570k and decent upband. Other proposal was to get a smaller map with no AI at all. We will see the settings in the chat before game start!
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I came across this little scene, and it amused me more than it should. "Hi, everyone, welcome to the first annual Warmonger's Conference. Oda, Monty, great to see you, and I see Shaka brought the kids, that's cool. So, first on the agenda... wait a second. Does someone smell... soap? Crap, it's Venice! poo poo! Everyone kill each other, quick!"
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Fojar38 posted:I was mostly referring to the Witcher 2. Haven't played Witcher 1. I really, really, really tried to like the Witcher 2 but there's no excuse for that kind of framerate lag on a high-end compute when it's set to medium. There's no excuse for an interface that unintuitive or the absurd degree of padding that permeates every quest hub, there's no excuse for trying to have a dark and gritty teenager plot in a game where half the cast are dressed like clowns. I don't know what your computer is like, mine is pretty medium-end and I was able to run everything on the highest settings with no problem. And the plot is amazingly goofy, did you miss the quest chain that revolved around getting blackout drunk and waking up with a tattoo of a naked man on your neck, then trying to remove said tattoo? It's definitely played straight but it's far from grimdark. Tender Bender fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Aug 5, 2013 |
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Tender Bender posted:I don't know what your computer is like, mine is pretty medium-end and I was able to run everything on the highest settings with no problem. And the plot is amazingly goofy, did you miss the quest chain that revolved around getting blackout drunk and waking up with a tattoo of a naked man on your neck, then trying to remove said tattoo? Why would you ever remove it?  I will be so sad if it doesn't carry over onto Witcher 3.
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Well, I hosed up. Not in terms of gameplay, so at least I have that going for me. I'm playing as Denmark and I wanted to basically start the game with a religion so I could reap as many benefits as possible. I get first pick and I decide to rename Catholicism "Odinism" because I'm Denmark. Then, a part of my brain remembers the term "Wotanism" from somewhere and I'm like "that sounds even cooler and more archaic and metal, go with that instead," not remembering where I heard it, assuming it's just a different spelling of Odinism. Wotanism is a White supremacist religion, kind of like Asatru, except while Asatru was just co-opted by racist scumbags, Wotanism was created from the ground up by them ("Wotan" is a backronym for "Will of the Aryan Nation). I've been playing a warmongering White supremacist religious fanatic empire all afternoon, and to make matters worse, the four nations I've come across so far have all been either African or Arabic ones, and I went and razed their cities, imposing Wotanism on their people, and pretending to be an actual Viking raider. That plus an unfortunate starting location mean I'm going to start a new game next time. I'm still going to roll Denmark, but I'll just stick with naming my religion Metal. tldr: I swear I'm not a White supremacist, I just watch too much Gangland. Alvarez IV fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Aug 5, 2013 |
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Alvarez IV posted:Well, I hosed up.
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Chomp8645 posted:Greeting Casimir! You are the king or whatever of Poland, a nation we don't really care to know about but good lord we couldn't take the angry forum posts any longer. The Polish people are apparently bitter nationalists who would rather die than see their little known country left out of a video game. Can you lead them to greatness, or to at least shut the hell up for once? Can you invest in Eastern Poland? Poland (and Poland-Lithuania) actually has a pretty badass history and was a significant player on the world stage until the 18th Century. It's actually kind of surprising that it's never been included in a Civ game until now, and you could make an argument that that's because Polish history is just not very well known in America. I mean, it's not like it's Serbia.
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Hot Goon-on-Goon action is best because of the rational diplomacy and backstabbing. To no ones surprise, the world had two wars before turn 10, started with good reasoning as evident in the screencaps. Luckily some sweet justice is on the way.  
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Cicadalek posted:In a related note, Askia is the most underwhelming leader I have played so far. Even Siam was more interesting. Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Aug 5, 2013 |
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Askia is all about his UB, one of the best. I'd probably only take Ethiopia, The Maya and Egypt's UB over his, bazaars went down in value now that AI's trade luxuries resources between each other and getting full value requires a DoF. The hut money and amphibious promotion are just gravy. Not a big fan of his UU but those are hit and miss.
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Vahakyla posted:Hot Goon-on-Goon action is best because of the rational diplomacy and backstabbing. That was good fun! Looking forward to Thursday.
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Fister Roboto posted:Poland (and Poland-Lithuania) actually has a pretty badass history and was a significant player on the world stage until the 18th Century. It's actually kind of surprising that it's never been included in a Civ game until now, and you could make an argument that that's because Polish history is just not very well known in America. I'm surprised Polish history isn't given a larger focus in America, considering the presence of figures like Tadeusz Kościuszko and Casimir Pulaski in the American Revolutionary War thehumandignity posted:Words abour sieging gradenko_2000 fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Aug 5, 2013 |
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Vahakyla posted:In all honesty, nations aren't so black and white Yeah, exactly. But Selassie/Tefari is a guy for whom, as Khrushchev put it (and this definitely applies to him as well), people weigh his good actions against his bad actions, and the good will outweigh the bad. gradenko_2000 posted:I'm surprised Polish history isn't given a larger focus in America, considering the presence of figures like Tadeusz Kościuszko and Casimir Pulaski in the American Revolutionary War I have never heard of either of these guys, but everything I heard about American history in school, from the Revolutionary War to the Cuban Missile Crisis, was really, really, really heavily biased. Like to the point that if I brought up any of the poo poo that was left out (EG one of the reasons we started the Revolutionary War was because the British wouldn't let us push the natives off more of their land, or that the Cuban Missile Crisis was actually a response to us increasing the proximity of missiles to Moscow and not just some bullshit power grab out of the blue) I would be threatened with disciplinary action and told to drop it. In my defence, I wasn't out to stir poo poo up, I just loved learning about history and they just really absolutely did not want us to learn poo poo. TacticalUrbanHomo fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Aug 5, 2013 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Poland (and Poland-Lithuania) actually has a pretty badass history and was a significant player on the world stage until the 18th Century. It's actually kind of surprising that it's never been included in a Civ game until now, and you could make an argument that that's because Polish history is just not very well known in America. Polish history is pretty cool, yes, but he's not wrong about the CivFanatics forums and their obsession with Poland. I remember a time when the moderators would delete people's posts for even mentioning it, because people couldn't resist arguing about whether it should be in Civ 4.
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Jabarto posted:Polish history is pretty cool, yes, but he's not wrong about the CivFanatics forums and their obsession with Poland. I remember a time when the moderators would delete people's posts for even mentioning it, because people couldn't resist arguing about whether it should be in Civ 4. I remember previous Civ threads here in Games itself getting derailed pretty hard over this issue as well, along the lines of "The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was one of the largest and most influential countries in Europe during its time, why does Firaxis ignore it in favor of small-time losers like the Zulu and Mansa Musa?"
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Vahakyla posted:Hot Goon-on-Goon action is best because of the rational diplomacy and backstabbing. I got 1000 gold from finding natural wonders, what was I going to do other than buy crossbowmen and try to kill you?
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They're still quite upset Austria and England took the "White on Red" color scheme. And I'm sure there are probably plenty of Serbian nationalists on Civfanatics too.
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Mr. Fun posted:I got 1000 gold from finding natural wonders, what was I going to do other than buy crossbowmen and try to kill you? Huh, how many crossbowmen can 1000 gold even buy? Like 3?
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