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drat it. I preordered EU4 from Gamersgate via Moneybookers two days ago. My bank account got billed, but Gamersgate gave me an error of payment being failed. The order is still pending and I haven't got the game. Are these things common and how long they take to resolve? I mailed Gamersgate immediately. I kind of feel this thing is urgent, because Paradox has said only preordered EU4 copies will get the converter. I want this purchase to be complete before EU4 is released.
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I'm currently playing my perhaps most interesting game of CK2 ever, in preparation for a conversion to EU4. Starting in the 9th century, I've led the Saffarid dynasty to restore the Persian empire. More interestingly, I've converted most of the pagans to Islam, and I'll probably spend the remaining 200 years doing the same to most of western Europe. Most of the vanilla EU4 nations exist (Poland, Lithuania, France, HRE, etc), so I wonder whether their normal events and decisions will work when they are muslim. That would be pretty cool.
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Aug 5, 2013 11:52
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In EU3 is there any way to make national manpower regenerate faster? It's not the same thing as 'reinforce speed', right?
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Aug 5, 2013 11:52
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fuf posted:In EU3 is there any way to make national manpower regenerate faster? It's not the same thing as 'reinforce speed', right? You regenerate about 0.8% of your max manpower per month (so you'll get it all back in 10 years), so get more manpower. Either conquer stuff, or build military buildings that give bonus manpower. If you're really hurting, you can move your sliders towards Quantity to get more dudes, but that will also make each dude less capable so it's probably not a good idea.
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Aug 5, 2013 11:58
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Rurik posted:drat it. I preordered EU4 from Gamersgate via Moneybookers two days ago. My bank account got billed, but Gamersgate gave me an error of payment being failed. The order is still pending and I haven't got the game. Well, seeing as how you e-mailed them over the weekend, of course they haven't responded yet  . They generally get back to me within a day.
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Aug 5, 2013 12:08
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Beamed posted:Well, seeing as how you e-mailed them over the weekend, of course they haven't responded yet Most of the working day has passed however. But you are right. I'm just a little nervous since EU4 release is so close already and I want the converter.
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Aug 5, 2013 12:43
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Rurik posted:Most of the working day has passed however. You have over a week, I'm sure it will be fine. 
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Aug 5, 2013 14:40
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RabidWeasel posted:I think all the "alt history is only good when it involves white people!" guys died out or at least learned to shut up about it.
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Aug 5, 2013 14:53
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fuf posted:In EU3 is there any way to make national manpower regenerate faster? It's not the same thing as 'reinforce speed', right? You regenerate 10% of your max each year, so the only way to make it faster is to have more of it. The National Conscripts idea is actually good now that MP is so precious. Also in general just be more careful with how you spend it, so try to avoid costly battles and attrition, and don't go to war unless you're close to full.
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Aug 5, 2013 15:05
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EU4 drops in a week (ok, 8 days) and no news of the demo yet  . Hopefully someone didn't "gently caress up" as johan put it. I like CK2 and I play it sometimes, but man, too many bloody civil wars when I unite half of Europe into a single empire with many kingdoms, all under rulers of my dynasty in my supreme empire. I just want to blob, drat it. I can't bring myself to play EU3 when I need that paradox-empire building fix with EU4 so soon.
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Aug 5, 2013 15:07
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rhazes posted:EU4 drops in a week (ok, 8 days) and no news of the demo yet I think they said the end of this week in that stream, not last week.
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Aug 5, 2013 15:09
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Tomn posted:You know, come to think of it, given all the whining on the Paradox forums when Sunset Invasion came out, is there any more whining on there now that EU4 will feature wildly ahistorical Aztecs/Incan empires (if you converted from Sunset)?
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Aug 5, 2013 15:22
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Dibujante posted:I hope not. Sunset invasion was pretty baller and I want to see more structured ahistorical stuff. Check out the Randomized New World thread. People are.. not receptive to the idea of ahistorical stuff.
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Aug 5, 2013 15:28
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Beamed posted:Check out the Randomized New World thread. People are.. not receptive to the idea of ahistorical stuff. Specifically, a vocal minority on our forums are not receptive to ahistorical stuff.
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Aug 5, 2013 15:31
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Wiz posted:Specifically, a vocal minority on our forums are not receptive to ahistorical stuff. Yes, this is more accurate, sorry.
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Aug 5, 2013 15:35
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Wiz posted:Specifically, a vocal minority on our forums are not receptive to ahistorical stuff. This kind of boggles my mind in reference to a Paradox game, though. What, do they blow a gasket if Europe doesn't look exactly like the way it did in 1400 every time they finish CK2? 
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Aug 5, 2013 15:44
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I enjoy Paradox setting up the world historically and leaving it to me and the AI to make a huge mess of it.
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Aug 5, 2013 15:47
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Wiz posted:Specifically, a vocal minority on our forums are not receptive to ahistorical stuff. That's a Paradox Development Studio "our", not SomethingAwful "our". Don't forget us Wiz 
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New Developer Diary is out! Lots of info:Johan posted:The game will go live at 9AM EST, which is about 15.00 in the afternoon Swedish time. (on the 13th of August)
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Aug 5, 2013 16:01
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Did the Mac version of ck2 have a launcher? I know that the Linux version didn't have one and its total nonsense. I hope EU4 doesn't follow suit on this very important feature being absent.
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Aug 5, 2013 16:03
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Baloogan posted:The paradox forums are filled with europeans who live in countries on the wrong side of history. It should balance out with the other half that live on the 'correct' side, though.
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Aug 5, 2013 16:09
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YouTuber posted:Did the Mac version of ck2 have a launcher? I know that the Linux version didn't have one and its total nonsense. I hope EU4 doesn't follow suit on this very important feature being absent. Yes, the mac version has the normal launcher.
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Aug 5, 2013 16:25
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Kainser posted:Uh, that's not why (reasonable) people criticized it.
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Aug 5, 2013 16:35
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Kainser posted:Uh, that's not why (reasonable) people criticized it. I'm not familiar with the Drama behind this. Why did the reasonable people criticize it?
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Aug 5, 2013 16:39
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A lot of people don't like it from a gameplay perspective because it just dumps a bunch of doomstacks on the west coast and says have fun. There's no real challenge to it if you get hit by the aztecs, you just either game the system or die. That's a legitimate criticism even if I don't necessarily agree it's a deal breaker.
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Aug 5, 2013 16:46
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RagnarokAngel posted:A lot of people don't like it from a gameplay perspective because it just dumps a bunch of doomstacks on the west coast and says have fun. There's no real challenge to it if you get hit by the aztecs, you just either game the system or die. Yeah, hordes are a terrible game mechanic. The only reason they're even vaguely acceptable in the east is that they're historical. Not that the Aztecs are actually all that formidable, as hordes go.
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Aug 5, 2013 17:00
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DrSunshine posted:This kind of boggles my mind in reference to a Paradox game, though. What, do they blow a gasket if Europe doesn't look exactly like the way it did in 1400 every time they finish CK2? When EUIII was new there was an EUII crew who felt like that. Although, in fairness, EUIII has come a long, long way, and some of the release complaints were pretty fair.
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Fintilgin posted:When EUIII was new there was an EUII crew who felt like that. Although, in fairness, EUIII has come a long, long way, and some of the release complaints were pretty fair. On the other hand, have you played with Historical Anything on?
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Beamed posted:On the other hand, have you played with Historical Anything on? Historical Lucky Nations is ok. Not like Random will change much.
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Aug 5, 2013 18:22
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DrSunshine posted:This kind of boggles my mind in reference to a Paradox game, though. What, do they blow a gasket if Europe doesn't look exactly like the way it did in 1400 every time they finish CK2? Randomized New World is radically ahistorical though. Also having one major landmass looking completely different from reality with the other looking the same kind of flies in the face of geology. I really don't see the appeal of it in a paradox game. If I wanted random land masses I'd play Civ.
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Aug 5, 2013 18:23
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Beamed posted:On the other hand, have you played with Historical Anything on? Good Lord, no. Fister Roboto posted:Randomized New World is radically ahistorical though. Also having one major landmass looking completely different from reality with the other looking the same kind of flies in the face of geology. I really don't see the appeal of it in a paradox game. If I wanted random land masses I'd play Civ. The big appeal is the very historical sense of discovery. That you don't know what is out there. In the vanilla game you know exactly where the Aztec Gold, New England colonies, and rich Caribbean are. You know there is no point in looking for a northwest passage. You know exactly what you're going to find and exactly where it is every. single. time. Randomized new world throws that all on its head and makes exploration and discovery way more fun. I had some cool EUIII games using the fan made randomized new world utility, and if it became an official (obviously optional) EUIV DLC I would be ~happy forever~.  (Please do this Paradox.)
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Fintilgin posted:The big appeal is the very historical sense of discovery. That you don't know what is out there. In the vanilla game you know exactly where the Aztec Gold, New England colonies, and rich Caribbean are. You know there is no point in looking for a northwest passage. You know exactly what you're going to find and exactly where it is every. single. time. All of my this.
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Aug 5, 2013 18:41
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Yeah the idea has been kicked around quite a few times, I gotta believe it's at least a heavy consideration nowadays.
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Autonomous Monster posted:Yeah, hordes are a terrible game mechanic. The only reason they're even vaguely acceptable in the east is that they're historical.
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Aug 5, 2013 18:50
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Dibujante posted:People found hordes to be a very unbalanced game mechanic in real life too, IIRC. Fun before realism. Remember it.
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Aug 5, 2013 18:51
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Its kind of funny to complain about Paradox games being Eurocentric and then to also want to swap out the Americas entirely with some kind of fantasy land.
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Aug 5, 2013 18:56
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The Nozzle posted:Its kind of funny to complain about Paradox games being Eurocentric and then to also want to swap out the Americas entirely with some kind of fantasy land. Nah. You can want the rest of the world to be represented in more detail while still enjoying a totally optional extra gameplay mode that emphasizes the "discovery" of the Americas from a European point of view. I mean, unless you're actively looking for something to be uptight about.  An entirely randomized world would be kinda fun too. I played a few of those too. A historical Old World with a random New is a fun middle ground, though. Of course there needs to be a chance that the native American states spawn as significantly more powerful and technologically advanced then Europe (ala Sunset Invasion) and in those games perhaps they discover Europe around 1460, and you wish they hadn't... I'd also have the generator make a mod so it could randomly throw in lots of extra native states that don't exist in vanilla, if the New World randomly has a denser population.
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Fintilgin posted:Nah. You can want the rest of the world to be represented in more detail while still enjoying a totally optional extra gameplay mode that emphasizes the "discovery" of the Americas from a European point of view. I mean, unless you're actively looking for something to be uptight about. Optimally, Paradox would allow you to specify which landmasses would be randomly generated: Let's say America, Africa, Europe, the Middle East, India, Siberia, the Far East, and Oceania. Oh god, that would be wonderful.
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Beamed posted:Optimally, Paradox would allow you to specify which landmasses would be randomly generated: Let's say America, Africa, Europe, the Middle East, India, Siberia, the Far East, and Oceania. Oh god, that would be wonderful. Yep, it would. Add in a "hidden" option, too, so your don't know what will be historical or not. Realistically, though, breaking up existent continents would probably be much trickier than just the options of random Nee World or totally random. Having the Americas separated from the Old World by big oceans make it easy to do the transition from random to non random.
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Decided to get a Roman Empire CK2 game ready to convert and ended up taking over almost every county on the map and have over a million levy's. There is still around 200 years of game left. I don't think that will be very fun to play in EU4. Will probably convert it anyway just to see what it is like. Wonder if Byzantium DLC will work for Rome too.
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