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In CK2+ how do you plot to take over trade posts from opposing Patrician families? I skimmed the internet and saw that it could be done via plot, but I've never seen that specific option pop up before. Do you have to kidnap the opposing Patrician, or is that something else entirely? I have it in my mind to try to play as a merchant republic during my first conversion game, but expanding is mighty slow without knowing how to actually play as a republic :/ edit: I am the Doge, if that makes any difference.
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Aug 6, 2013 04:18
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That's nothing, In my current game Poland Inherited Sweden but lost its homeland to a bunch of Dukes. So now Most of Scandinavia is Poland and real Poland looks like a shattered stain glass window. Or I could tell you about Aragonese England.
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Aug 6, 2013 04:19
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:In CK2+ how do you plot to take over trade posts from opposing Patrician families? I skimmed the internet and saw that it could be done via plot, but I've never seen that specific option pop up before. Do you have to kidnap the opposing Patrician, or is that something else entirely? I have it in my mind to try to play as a merchant republic during my first conversion game, but expanding is mighty slow without knowing how to actually play as a republic :/ You can only do this if they have more posts than you. You should never be in a position where they have more posts unless you just got embargoed or something.
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Aug 6, 2013 04:20
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Popular Thug Drink posted:You can only do this if they have more posts than you. You should never be in a position where they have more posts unless you just got embargoed or something. Ahh, well that would explain that then. Thank you kindly!
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Aug 6, 2013 04:22
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unwantedplatypus posted:That's nothing, In my current game Poland Inherited Sweden but lost its homeland to a bunch of Dukes. So now Most of Scandinavia is Poland and real Poland looks like a shattered stain glass window. It's interesting how inheritances can create the Hapsburg-esque superpowers that came to dominate Europe completely by (seeming) chance and AI agency. The Kiev-Krakow triple monarchy of Kiev, Lithuania, and Poland basically became the superpower of my Bulgaria game, converting Eastern Europe back to Orthodoxy and fist-fighting with the HRE. If the AI wasn't so bad at managing its levies, they might have even helped me beat the Mongols!
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Aug 6, 2013 04:23
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DrSunshine posted:Oh hey! Have you managed to survive more than 100 years as them? From the moment I got Old Gods I've been busting my head up against this over and over without much success. What's your secret? Don't think I've played 100 years in on it yet but I'll play that save some more just to see. I assumed I'd be fine just because I carved out a decent satrapy but I forgot about the seljuks.
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Aug 6, 2013 04:36
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How are you guys doing so well as Karen Satrapy? I have done that swear-allegiance thing, but aren't decadence wars still broken? Once I overthrow the Samanids, I just get obliterated by the Muslims in Persia, usually a huge blobbed Saffarid kingdom.
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Aug 6, 2013 04:44
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Juvenalian.Satyr posted:It's interesting how inheritances can create the Hapsburg-esque superpowers that came to dominate Europe completely by (seeming) chance and AI agency. The Kiev-Krakow triple monarchy of Kiev, Lithuania, and Poland basically became the superpower of my Bulgaria game, converting Eastern Europe back to Orthodoxy and fist-fighting with the HRE. I mean that in the nicest way, of course. But seriously, go finish your LP.
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Aug 6, 2013 04:45
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Cycloneman posted:Hey, there you are! Go finish your LP! Old Gods broke the save, but I am actually working on either setting up the scenario for Aleksandr I's coronation for possible re-do, or starting up something similar.
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Aug 6, 2013 05:00
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I tried playing a vanilla CK2 game in anticipation of EU4 and the converter, but it feels so odd without any mods. And I can't stop looking at the Caspian Sea after reading Reveilled's thing about it.
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Aug 6, 2013 05:03
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I just ragequit my tutorial game and am honestly not sure if I should load up from the last autosave or backtrack, and if so, how far. It's not that things have gone badly -- I'm still King of Ireland -- but as is, I'd basically waste two updates on poo poo that goes utterly nowhere and is pointless, and then it'd be back to "blah blah and this is me managing vassals and fabricating claims". loving goddammit.
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Aug 6, 2013 05:38
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TehKeen posted:
That's nothing: 
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Aug 6, 2013 05:44
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I felt like my current game is interesting enough to share. The IlKhanate has completely swallowed all of Tartaria and Russia and is making headway into the Cacausus while remnants of the Russian Empire survive in Estonia and Finland. With Russia's fall and subsequent conversion to Monothelite, Orthodoxy has officially been exteriminated.The Golden Horde showed up in Perm but then got completely crushed by the IlKhanate. I managed to stab my way through the current Khan's 5 other brothers but failed to get him before he popped out 3 sons. Throughout this time there have only been two rebellions and each were completely crushed.  The Mongols ended up converting to shia after swallowing Persia. Meanwhile, the Catholic Lotharingians hold the Holy Lands. The Byzantine Empire Imploded, converted to the Monothelite faith, and is rebuilding somewhat after expelling the muslims from Anatolia.  Pisa has grown ridiculously strong, and now owns a large chunk of the Mediterranean both financially and territorially. The Moors almost managed to conquer Spain, but a crusade was called and allowed France to take large chunks of land.  But even Pisa has a worthy Rival. Somehow the Holy Roman Empire is ruled by the Grand Prince of Genoa, albeit weakened due to Lotharingia's Independence. This is just the most  worthy game I've ever had. Aragon inherits a (still mostly divided) England every other generation and somehow Poland has Scandinavia. Theres literally nothing to stop the Ilkhanate due to every significant roadblock in their way having imploded. Even the Fatimids are a lot weaker than usual. That's not even mentioning the fledgling Scottish Empire or the Polish holdings in Scotland.
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Aug 6, 2013 05:45
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Possibly dumb question, but its been a long time since I've played with this area. So, I am the German Catholic King of Lombardy, and I own all of historical Lombardy, and I am independent. I also have some of Burgandy, but that's not really important right now. I am debating if I should press my de jure claim on Rome and move my capitol there or not. Is there anything special I get to do if I do, or am I just asking for a lot of religious bullshit?
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Aug 6, 2013 05:54
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Overwined posted:I did! I forgot to mention that as soon as the first kid died, I got the popup and it was that same dude saying "Hello, I am your Reagent. Nothing bad will happen to you. I promise!" Good good. It might seem vindictive, but I do have a tendency to kill people who do bad things to my characters. Sometimes their entire families as well, depending on the circumstances. On another note, I started my first game today as a Viking lord with The Old Gods enabled. Wow did I have some surprise fun with that thus far! I'm obviously a warmongering psychopath, but what surprised me was that special "once every 9 years event" I was able to host. My jail was filled with rebel leaders who had tried to usurp my crown, but I couldn't execute them unless I wanted a tyranny bonus. Then boom! Human sacrifice! Not only no tyranny, but I even got rewarded for it! I only left one of the rebels alive because he was my brother, and the kinslayer trait is not a good thing to have. Needless to say, my events to come will have many... offerings. 
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Aug 6, 2013 06:10
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Possibly dumb question, but its been a long time since I've played with this area. So, I am the German Catholic King of Lombardy, and I own all of historical Lombardy, and I am independent. I also have some of Burgandy, but that's not really important right now. I am debating if I should press my de jure claim on Rome and move my capitol there or not. Is there anything special I get to do if I do, or am I just asking for a lot of religious bullshit? The Pope will ask you to give Rome to him sometimes. If you dare to refuse, he might have you excommunicated.
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Aug 6, 2013 06:14
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Is there any way to organize dukes under a king in an area where you can't make the de jure kingdom? In my Scandinavia game my mother managed to press a claim over Brittany, the #2 Norse kingdom in my game. So when she died I inherited it and now have way more land than I want to deal with. They had taken a line of duchies down western France and then most of the Iberian Peninsula. Unfortunately, I can't make any of the kingdoms down south there because they all require you to be Christian for some daft reason. As it is, if I want to call up troops from there I have a dozen scattered Jarls and Chiefs in Spain whose armies take forever to get to the coast to be picked up. I can transfer the chiefs to one of my kingdoms, but the jarls won't transfer because they're not a de jure vassal. Ideally I'd like to get them all under their own vassal and grant independance, giving me another allied norse kingdom to play with. Granting each jarl independance individually would just lead to them being eaten up by the Muslims nearby. If I could give them to one of my already vassal kingdoms that would work too. Any ideas on what to do with them? Yureina posted:On another note, I started my first game today as a Viking lord with The Old Gods enabled. Wow did I have some surprise fun with that thus far! I'm obviously a warmongering psychopath, but what surprised me was that special "once every 9 years event" I was able to host. My jail was filled with rebel leaders who had tried to usurp my crown, but I couldn't execute them unless I wanted a tyranny bonus. Then boom! Human sacrifice! Not only no tyranny, but I even got rewarded for it! I only left one of the rebels alive because he was my brother, and the kinslayer trait is not a good thing to have. I love the Great Blot. Gives me something to do with those random prisoners that don't get a ransom!
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Aug 6, 2013 06:39
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I usually just release the ones that can't be ransomed unless they did seriously bad poo poo like try to kill my family or something. Maybe I default to "be a decent guy" too often.
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Aug 6, 2013 06:44
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TehKeen posted:
Ice, Ire... it's only one letter's difference. No big.
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Aug 6, 2013 06:46
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Ice, Ire... it's only one letter's difference. No big. Vikings don't need to know how to spell, only how to 
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Aug 6, 2013 06:57
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Reveilled posted:Man, playing in the middle east really hammers home how much Paradox's consistent depiction of the caspian sea being in the wrong place fucks with geography in the area. Almost every paradox game has the caspian sea sitting way way south of where it should be, It's so massively distorted it's insane. To be fair, the entire projection is kind of messed up. You kind of just chalk it down to quasi-medieval mapping otherwise you'll go insane noticing all the inconsistencies
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Aug 6, 2013 07:05
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Today I went from Count HAMMER of Bornholm to Duke of Skane to King of Sweden and Scotland. I called a prepared invasion of Scotland...declared war on Scotland 2 years later at the same time as declaring my once-in-a-lifetime subjugation war on Svipjod; used event troops to take over Sweden and then went and took over Scotland. Feels good.
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Aug 6, 2013 07:12
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I think it's just good old fashioned map distortion. I looked up a few co-ordinates and the Caspian seems like it's only around 1-2 degrees of latitude away from other similiar landmarks. There's significant warping to make it consistent. You really shouldn't be laying a landmass the size of Europe on a flat page and pretending it's a factual spatial representation, but I guess there's not much choice unless you want to model a globe as well.
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Aug 6, 2013 07:17
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Man, my current game is driving me nuts. I've finally formed an empire for the first time in 100 hours of playing Irish or Welsh starts. But I'm stuck. I can't get the last third or so of England because the HRE has it and those fuckers are huge. I have the title to the Kingdom of Aragon but control none of the land. I can't retake it from the Muslims.
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Aug 6, 2013 08:10
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CapnAndy posted:I just ragequit my tutorial game and am honestly not sure if I should load up from the last autosave or backtrack, and if so, how far. Use it as a teaching point in the LP, as often you might end up having prepared for something and it turns out to amount to nothing.
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Aug 6, 2013 08:15
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Oh hey, are we posting silly maps? Half of France being Ireland was my fault, of course, but the King of France turned Muslim and got rebelled on by the King of Jerusalem (who holds no lands in the Levant) all on his own.
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Aug 6, 2013 08:20
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TehKeen posted:
How recent is the patch that changes Norse Ireland to Irland?
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Aug 6, 2013 08:27
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I just got this game and have only tried a few rulers, but so far I'm really enjoying some of the wacky stuff that can happen. So far I've had 2 experiences that stand out. After learning to play on Ireland, I decided to try out 867 around Lithuania. I was 1 county away from forming the kingdom when my leader died. After that a series of confusing events occurred - I was on the fastest mode and leader after leader kept dying. Until who was once my 1 year old great grand daughter took over. She managed to stay in power, form the kingdom, and reign for 80 years. I later decided to try a merchant republic - I chose Venice in 867. My ruler died before I could secure my own son to win the election - within a year of starting due to having sex with his wife. Then over the next 10 years those with any chance of winning all died, and I was stuck with a 14 year old boy as my hopeful. After a lot of fast forwarding, I won, only to be greeted by a stack of 10k troops sitting on top of venice.
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Aug 6, 2013 08:32
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Tuxedo Gin posted:Man, my current game is driving me nuts. I've finally formed an empire for the first time in 100 hours of playing Irish or Welsh starts. You could try plotting to kill the HRE Emperor - particularly if the heir is a child, or low on Diplomacy. That often sets off a civil war, and might be a good time to steal that land for the glory of Britannia. Or go about it a different way - try marrying into a claim to the Empire then kill the Emperor and start a civil war. Hell, if you can get an alliance with the HRE via a marriage, you could probably take Aragon without much hassle at all.
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Aug 6, 2013 10:06
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TehKeen posted:
Pfft. I have a Lithuanian Iceland. A dejure Lithuanian Iceland. I love how things get really really weird if you take an Old Gods start and play until the end. France and Spain are 95% culturally German with the major exception being Paris which remains Bedouin, meanwhile Italy is entirely Frankish, Persia is Turkish, most of Anatolia is Bedouin (but don't worry about the Greeks because they moved into Hungary) and Serbia was the last Norse country and remains culturally Norse. SickZip fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Aug 6, 2013 |
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Aug 6, 2013 10:12
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Alkanos posted:I love the Great Blot. Gives me something to do with those random prisoners that don't get a ransom! Unransomable prisoners, traitors, pretenders or deposed rulers, and plotters who really should have known better. They shall serve a better purpose as offerings to Odin, Thor, Freya, and all of their friends. 
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My Life as the king of Africa was getting a bit stale (and decadent) so I went snooping round my heirs to liven things up a bit. The heir to the throne was possibly the greatest Sunni Muslim ever to exist - genius, well respected, phenomenal wives, high prestige on his own. The next in line was craven, a heretic, Andalusian, married a stuttering wife and, to top it all off, effeminate. My aging ruler parcels off his emirates to each of his sons, revoking titles and imprisoning where necessary to ensure that each of the five sons could have a duchy to their own, they can hand out their own titles to vassals and, just before doing this, improved holdings to make sure they could each have their own massive levies. Marriages are arranged to the four great kingdoms of the Arabic world which have existed in a pretty much fair balance for a century or more. The Seljuk, Abbassid, Malian and Almoravid (by this point in control of Spain and Portugal only) all gain claims on Africa through my various other sons and daughters. The knives come out and prince saiid (the good one) dies an unfortunate death. I move my personal levies to an area with tuberculosis and luckily my 70 year old king catches it. I then do Ramadan and pick all the impious decadence raising events, while deliberately pissing off the Caliph. Two years later my king dies and my craven son (who at this point is maimed as well) gets the throne. I unpause and the entire Arabic world explodes into the largest war the world has ever seen - every empire immediately at war with everyone else while my primary title (Sicily) sits with huge stacks raised on it stopping any attack. Literally everyone is at war over who owns my 5 emirates and the kingdom of Africa. Religious divisions over the heresies I've carefully been promoting caused a jihad of Sunni vs Shiite, the Mongols just turned up and the Pope has taken advantage of the chaos to launch the fourth crusade to Jerusalem. I loving love this game.
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Raserys posted:So with the last iteration of CK2+ out, can someone repost the landed_titles file with the added cultural names? Here it is. I'm going to start work on a vanilla version.
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Aug 6, 2013 11:12
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I was playing a Islamic King of Scotland and had married the King of Africa's daughter, my king dies and I'm playing as a kid then I suddenly get a notification that the Prince of Africa is court as he was ousted. So I've set him up as the Duke of Moray hoping I can make something good out of having him as my vassal.
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Aug 6, 2013 12:46
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Playing as Ludolfingers-cum-HRE, managed to place my son-in-law on the Byzantine throne and marry my grandson to his (only child) daughter. What do I do once the great-grandchild inherits both?
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Aug 6, 2013 13:06
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:Playing as Ludolfingers-cum-HRE, managed to place my son-in-law on the Byzantine throne and marry my grandson to his (only child) daughter. What do I do once the great-grandchild inherits both? Destroy one of the empires. Due to the "born in purple" Mechanic the HRE always has a slightly different succession than the ERE and you are running risk of splitting the titles.
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Aug 6, 2013 13:40
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Tell me about being a king in CKII. I can play CKII pretty well starting as an Irish count or duke but once I get up to the King level I just get completely overwhelmed by all the options. Please Send Help
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Aug 6, 2013 14:31
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What exactly is the problem? I'm not trying to talk down to you just the general principle is the same just another level. If you're getting a lot of rebellions, spread your vassals around and give it to people who like you.
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BabyFur Denny posted:Destroy one of the empires. Due to the "born in purple" Mechanic the HRE always has a slightly different succession than the ERE and you are running risk of splitting the titles. Once the Byzantines change to the Latin Empire, do they keep the Born in the Purple mechanic?
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