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Why not play as the barbarians? It'd be kind like Venice mixed with reverse tower defense. Try to murder the soft city-folk before they get into space.
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Aug 6, 2013 00:34
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Pvt.Scott posted:Why not play as the barbarians? It'd be kind like Venice mixed with reverse tower defense. Try to murder the soft city-folk before they get into space. The best part of Civ IV Warlords is the Barbarian scenario where you point buy units and sack cities to gain points. 
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Aug 6, 2013 00:49
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Tao Jones posted:SBF_MadDjinn is pretty good and tends to be the thread's recommendation for YT LPers. Lately I've enjoyed watching PrimEvalCIV, since he's better at explaining his reasoning for doing things than MadDjinn tends to be, but his update schedule is slow. I've watched a few of ElceePlaysCiv's Poland episodes and they aren't bad, either. Thanks, checking out the channels. Already hooked on PrimEvalCIV's Diety runs!
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Aug 6, 2013 01:30
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So I play this on laptop with Windows 8 and Nvidia graphics (but no Optimus). Not all the time, but many times when the screen saver comes on the graphics driver crashes, which crashes the game. Anybody else have graphics problems with the game?
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Aug 6, 2013 01:32
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FISHMANPET posted:So I play this on laptop with Windows 8 and Nvidia graphics (but no Optimus). Not all the time, but many times when the screen saver comes on the graphics driver crashes, which crashes the game. Anybody else have graphics problems with the game? Sometimes it causes my graphics card to overheat. There's really no good reason for it to be as loving GPU-intense as it is, maybe Sid should learn to code.
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Aug 6, 2013 01:36
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Indecisive posted:Sometimes it causes my graphics card to overheat. There's really no good reason for it to be as loving GPU-intense as it is, maybe Sid should learn to code. Both Civ 5 and XCOM are really stressful on my GPU, I think it's a Firaxis thing in general.
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Aug 6, 2013 01:41
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So now that the games been out for a while: Did they improve the multiplayer or is it still unplayable?
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Aug 6, 2013 02:08
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Iretep posted:So now that the games been out for a while: Did they improve the multiplayer or is it still unplayable? GoonCiv match was just played yesterday with no issues to speak with. The fall patch of last year fixed the multiplayer mostly.
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Aug 6, 2013 02:16
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I remember hearing they were going to update America's UA in a patch... any word if the Celts will get revised too? I like them in theory, but the UA is really underwhelming, especially compared to, say, Ethiopia, who gets an early +2 faith that doesn't expire if they chop trees, and can be free if you go Tradition (and why wouldn't you?) And still get a good UA.
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Aug 6, 2013 03:26
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LaserShark posted:I remember hearing they were going to update America's UA in a patch... any word if the Celts will get revised too? I like them in theory, but the UA is really underwhelming, especially compared to, say, Ethiopia, who gets an early +2 faith that doesn't expire if they chop trees, and can be free if you go Tradition (and why wouldn't you?) And still get a good UA. As a faith generating ability, the Celt UA is pretty lovely. The main value in it is that it basically guarantees you get first pick of the pantheon bonuses unless someone pops faith from ruins right away. But yeah, it's a pretty lackluster UA over all.
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Aug 6, 2013 04:20
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Chomp8645 posted:As a faith generating ability, the Celt UA is pretty lovely. The main value in it is that it basically guarantees you get first pick of the pantheon bonuses unless someone pops faith from ruins right away. I'm pretty sure you need to have at least started building a shrine to get the ruins faith bonus, but I could be wrong.
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Aug 6, 2013 05:21
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Mr. Fun posted:I'm pretty sure you need to have at least started building a shrine to get the ruins faith bonus, but I could be wrong. I can say with certainty you can pop faith (or anything else) from ruins regardless of your building completed/in progress.
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Aug 6, 2013 05:26
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If I'm remembering an early post right the Shoshone can only pick faith after a certain number of turns. 20 I think.
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Aug 6, 2013 05:29
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Right. Before 20 turns it's impossible to get faith from ruins. I don't remember if the 'great prophet' version (+60 faith) is also turn-gated or if it's after you've founded a pantheon.
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Aug 6, 2013 05:34
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Well I guess that makes the Celt UA a little better, at least you can't be beaten to that first Pantheon pick by someone lucking out on the ruins.
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Aug 6, 2013 05:50
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Chomp8645 posted:Well I guess that makes the Celt UA a little better, at least you can't be beaten to that first Pantheon pick by someone lucking out on the ruins. That's the whole point of the Celts. They get first pick. They don't produce the greatest quantity of faith points (that'd be Ethiopia, followed by the Maya) but sometimes that little extra edge is all you need. By the way, I just tried out the enhancer that makes your religion spread at double speed to friendly city-states. It is way more powerful than I originally anticipated. You guys should try it out sometime.
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Aug 6, 2013 07:57
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Is there an easy way to find Natural Wonders on the map? By that I mean that my civ already knows where they are, but locating them on the Huge Pangaea map can be a bit tough sometimes. Messing around with the other view/overlays helps a little, but it's still a hassle.
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Aug 6, 2013 08:12
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There's this mod and I swear I saw an updated version of it on the Steam Workshop, but I can't find it for some reason. If you can find something like that, it highlights all natural wonders and makes it a lot easier to see them.
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Aug 6, 2013 08:52
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Speedball posted:That's the whole point of the Celts. They get first pick. They don't produce the greatest quantity of faith points (that'd be Ethiopia, followed by the Maya) but sometimes that little extra edge is all you need. It's super powerful if your city states are landlocked between cities, for sure.
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Aug 6, 2013 09:00
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Chomp8645 posted:Well I guess that makes the Celt UA a little better, at least you can't be beaten to that first Pantheon pick by someone lucking out on the ruins. Their UA doesn't have to be very good given that they have a pretty good UU and a very good UB.
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Aug 6, 2013 09:15
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The Incan UU is really terrible. Weaker but it can withdraw, and so easily obsoleted so you'll never even have many.
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Aug 6, 2013 09:22
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Geokinesis posted:The Incan UU is really terrible. Weaker but it can withdraw, and so easily obsoleted so you'll never even have many. Slingers are good for barb hunting, and it’s a useful promotion to have when you upgrade them to composite bows.
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Aug 6, 2013 09:29
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Geokinesis posted:The Incan UU is really terrible. Weaker but it can withdraw, and so easily obsoleted so you'll never even have many. At least it's great for escorting settlers or workers. 
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Vahakyla posted:GoonCiv match was just played yesterday with no issues to speak with. The fall patch of last year fixed the multiplayer mostly. I was still getting assloads of disconnects when MPing yesterday, but uninstalling my network card, rebooting the PC and reinstalling it seems to have fixed it. If anyone else is having problems, try that.
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Aug 6, 2013 09:31
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TheGame posted:There's this mod and I swear I saw an updated version of it on the Steam Workshop, but I can't find it for some reason. If you can find something like that, it highlights all natural wonders and makes it a lot easier to see them. Your link isn't working for me, but there's a good chance that's one of whoward69's mods. He removed all his from the workshop because he found steam difficult to work with, but all his mods are still available on a website of his and that particular one is here: http://www.picknmixmods.com/mods/e915c6ee-16bc-44cf-9a2f-15746f414c63/mod.html
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Aug 6, 2013 09:45
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So I tried out the Scramble for Africa scenario: That's the Fountain of Youth--they call it the source of the Nile, but haven't changed how it works--two tiles away from Mount Kilimanjaro. And I'm playing as the Zulu, so they're too far away to take advantage of. The map's randomly generated, so I'll probably never see this sort of thing again. Lucky Haile, I guess.
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Aug 6, 2013 10:03
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TheGame posted:Right. Before 20 turns it's impossible to get faith from ruins. I don't remember if the 'great prophet' version (+60 faith) is also turn-gated or if it's after you've founded a pantheon. I got the 60 faith after I had grabbed my culture/faith from silver thingy yesterday. Not that that is any confirmation. Also rage quit when some fuckwad AI sniped my Pyramids when I had one turn left; a deity game I spent a SP point in liberty just for those damned mids 
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Speedball posted:By the way, I just tried out the enhancer that makes your religion spread at double speed to friendly city-states. It is way more powerful than I originally anticipated. You guys should try it out sometime. If it's not dependent on range, maybe. If it is, then it's just a version of Religious Texts that doesn't work on other civs.
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Speedball posted:By the way, I just tried out the enhancer that makes your religion spread at double speed to friendly city-states. It is way more powerful than I originally anticipated. You guys should try it out sometime. Used it in a Venice game last night. Pledge to protect plus that patronage policy that adds 20 to your resting point sets you up. Combine that with grand temple, and then set up a trade route, and you can have nearly any city-state converting your religion that you want.
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Grand Temple with Venice is generally strong, especially if you go Religious Texts. Your bonus trade routes really allows you to get the most out of trade route pressure. I'd still probably prefer that to the double city state pressure belief in that instance. Just because it doesn't take long for city states to fall massively behind in trade route value. edit: I'm not sure what Consulates (the +20 resting point) policy has to do with that strategy though. Friend status doesn't affect religious conversion at all. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Aug 6, 2013 |
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John F Bennett posted:Look up 'in game editor' in the workshop. It's the best one out there. TheGame posted:There's this mod and I swear I saw an updated version of it on the Steam Workshop, but I can't find it for some reason. If you can find something like that, it highlights all natural wonders and makes it a lot easier to see them. KKKlean Energy posted:Your link isn't working for me, but there's a good chance that's one of whoward69's mods. He removed all his from the workshop because he found steam difficult to work with, but all his mods are still available on a website of his and that particular one is here: http://www.picknmixmods.com/mods/e915c6ee-16bc-44cf-9a2f-15746f414c63/mod.html Thanks, those are good mods. Pvt.Scott posted:Play Aztecs or Zulu with raging barbarians and this mod to remove the barbarian xp cap! That's a bit more hassle than I was looking for, but it's a good idea for the next time I want to cheat just a little.
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Krazyface posted:So I tried out the Scramble for Africa scenario: They have actually. Source of the Nile only gives you the big happy boost in SfA, it doesn't provide the healing bonuses.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:edit: I'm not sure what Consulates (the +20 resting point) policy has to do with that strategy though. Friend status doesn't affect religious conversion at all. It affects the benefits of the strategy tthrough Papal Primacy. Consulates plus protection plus Papal Primacy is a resting point of 45 and deterioration of 0.5/turn. A 250g donation is enough to buy any non-allied CS for one turn, and if they need investment or are bankrupt it's anywhere from 30 to 60 turns of allegiance.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:edit: I'm not sure what Consulates (the +20 resting point) policy has to do with that strategy though. Friend status doesn't affect religious conversion at all. The belief he was talking about doubles the speed of religion spreading to friendly city-states. Unless it means any city-state not at war with you I'd assume it means city-states that are at least friends.
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Swarms of Zulu spearmen are terrifyingly effective. Started up a Shaka Emperor continents game, had an ok start position and just researched bronze working as fast as possible. Next part of the trick is to rush build the Ikanda, then make 10 or so spearmen. Chop trees if you must, gold buy a couple, whatever. Take a couple of cities or CSs nearby with at least 2 luxuries apiece, or one if you burn the pop down. Make peace. Recover your strength, get happiness sorted out, maybe get Heroic Epic online for your next batch of spears, or maybe Impi if it took that long. Declare war again, or be declared on by everyone else depending and eat everything in the path of the swarm. Stealing workers from city states and then immediately making peace is a great way to swell your workforce in the early turns. Also a great way to piss of your neighbors.
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Captain Fargle posted:They have actually. Source of the Nile only gives you the big happy boost in SfA, it doesn't provide the healing bonuses. Yes, it does. That's why people are saying it's like the Fountain of Youth: because it gives units the "heals at double rate"-promotion. Otherwise they'd just say "it's that natural wonder that gives you a bunch of happiness", not "it's the FoY". I had a lot of fun running a Mehal Safari conga line past SotN and Kilimanjaro on their way to stomp the European invaders. Most one-sided war I've ever fought. Jolan fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Aug 6, 2013 |
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Pvt.Scott posted:Swarms of Zulu spearmen are terrifyingly effective. Started up a Shaka Emperor continents game, had an ok start position and just researched bronze working as fast as possible. Next part of the trick is to rush build the Ikanda, then make 10 or so spearmen. Chop trees if you must, gold buy a couple, whatever. Take a couple of cities or CSs nearby with at least 2 luxuries apiece, or one if you burn the pop down. Make peace. Recover your strength, get happiness sorted out, maybe get Heroic Epic online for your next batch of spears, or maybe Impi if it took that long. Declare war again, or be declared on by everyone else depending and eat everything in the path of the swarm. Steal workers before you meet anyone else if you can to skate on the diplomatic penalty. Also yes, Zulu spearmen are ridiculously effective; with all the unique Zulu promotions they have the strength of swordsmen, and +75% flanking attacks and +30% ranged defence and +1 move on top of everything. When I finally upgraded mine to Impi it was so easy to conquer one neighbour after another that I got bored and abandoned the game.
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So are there any AI civ's at all who won't immediately try to shove Arts Funding through the World Congress the moment they get the ability to propose resolutions? And have everyone love them for it? The AI universally approves of Arts Funding and universally hates Science Funding. This is baffling.
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The world congress was just started in my France game and it was the first proposal I put through. Loved by all 8 other civs. Each one took the time to thank me personally for it during the following turn, and I have Shaka, Rome, and the Shoshone in my game.
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