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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Cassette tapes and VHS tapes rule and I'm very sad for people who don't see this. Degraded quality over time is half the fun. Also CD's are the worst. Horrible things.
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I wonder what the crossover is between people that say "Man, cassette tapes sound horrible, why would anyone buy them in 2013?" and people who were ecstatic about All Hail West Texas getting a vinyl rerelease.
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Aug 6, 2013 14:56
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I personally don't see anything wrong with buying old cassette tapes for .25 if that's your thing and you have a tape deck and the space to store your cassettes. I will agree that even for punk bands, it would just make a lot more sense to burn CDs because you can definitely count on your fans having access to a CD drive over a tape deck. It would make a lot of sense for a broke band back in the 90s to record their demos over old cassettes to save money but in 2013, it just seems weird, but hey, whatever floats your boat. Cassette Store Day on the other hand is loving ridiculous. Why would anyone other than collectors grabbing every format available for a release be interested in spending between $20 and $30 for a loving cassette? I seriously hope it's a massive failure. Trying to bring back cassettes as a music medium is pretty dumb. They really don't hold any positives over any other music medium. I'm personally waiting for Minidisc Store Day 
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Aug 6, 2013 15:34
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I bought a cassette recently just because I was determined I wanted to own every variation of that album. I wish I could not be a sperg and just live with one copy, all these variants are killing my wallet 
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Aug 6, 2013 15:37
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I bought the latest War On Drugs album on cassette because the 'b side' was an exclusive instrumental album. That's cool. I have never played it. So I've never heard it. Because fuckin' cassettes, man.
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Aug 6, 2013 15:40
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Cassettes just aren't dramatic enough.
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Aug 6, 2013 16:51
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I hope cassettes make a come back so I can sell all the ones my parents gave me instead of just tossing them out Hey what's the general consensus on glow in the dark vinyl? I hear some people say there's a lot more surface noise, but others say they sound fine. Is the quality really that different?
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Aug 6, 2013 18:02
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Whoever was saying cassettes don't have the same options for lyrics and artwork: obviously it's much smaller, but lots of cassettes have full booklets with lyrics and art and all that. I am very curious to listen to a new cassette, since it's been at least 15 years since I have done so. Joyful Noise sent out a mixtape with the Dumb Numbers album (which is loving fantastic, by the way), but I have nothing to play it on.Dr. Lenin posted:Hey what's the general consensus on glow in the dark vinyl? I hear some people say there's a lot more surface noise, but others say they sound fine. Is the quality really that different? I have one record that glows in the dark and that's Animals As Leaders' S/T. It sounds just fine to me, but I imagine on a quieter album there might be some more noticeable surface noise.
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Aug 6, 2013 18:17
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I was going to wait until the last few turned up in the post to show off all the great stuff I've picked up in the last few weeks, but this one couldn't wait:
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Aug 6, 2013 18:31
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That is gorgeous.
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Aug 6, 2013 19:20
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Cpt. Spring Types posted:I have one record that glows in the dark and that's Animals As Leaders' S/T. It sounds just fine to me, but I imagine on a quieter album there might be some more noticeable surface noise. The one I was looking at was Destination: Beautiful by Mae. Just got repressed and went on sale through Hot Topic this morning (but sold out right before I could decide on ordering it). The album has its quiet moments so I can imagine it wouldn't sound the best on GITD vinyl. Oh well. The cassette conversation on this page convinced me to buy Tape Deck Heart by Frank Turner instead 
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Aug 6, 2013 22:11
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Between cassette tapes and Billy Joel you guys are really starting to scare me, almost seemed like the PYF Can of Worms thread for a minute there. Ahh thanks that's better.
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Aug 7, 2013 01:15
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Finally got the first album I ever loved on vinyl  
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Aug 7, 2013 02:05
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I love cassettes and I make mixtapes all the time. Seriously, making a mixtape is so much more fun than putting together a playlist or burning a cd. As far as new cassettes: last Record Store Day I got a cassette from Burger Records and it sounds rad. 
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Aug 7, 2013 02:16
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Everyone saying bands should just sell CD-Rs: What kind of narc cop motherfucker sells a burned CDR? I've seen bands give them away, but to sell them? I might have a glow in the dark record in the mail? The Re-Animator soundtrack has GID randomly inserted. If I wasn't already broke I would be going broke very soon trying to get all of those Solaris releases.
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Aug 7, 2013 03:16
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Kevar posted:Everyone saying bands should just sell CD-Rs: What kind of narc cop motherfucker sells a burned CDR? I've seen bands give them away, but to sell them? Well ideally they could fancy them up a bit with jewel cases and artwork. How is this fundamentally different from charging people for home made cassettes (which sound worse)?
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Aug 7, 2013 03:24
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Snowy posted:Between cassette tapes and Billy Joel you guys are really starting to scare me, almost seemed like the PYF Can of Worms thread for a minute there. I don't give two fucks about tapes, but Billy Joel is awesome
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Aug 7, 2013 03:32
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^Or they could give them away and sell different merch. Maybe give a CD away with every purchase so they recoup the value. The only thing that keeps cassettes from looking "narc cop" is the novelty factor because it's 2013. *Edit: this was piggybacking off of CPL593H's post. Didn't see I'd been beaten there. trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Aug 7, 2013 |
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Aug 7, 2013 03:32
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CPL593H posted:Well ideally they could fancy them up a bit with jewel cases and artwork. How is this fundamentally different from charging people for home made cassettes (which sound worse)? It's not different. I think it just comes down to the fact that if you want the music digitally you can just get the MP3s and put them on your ipod/burn your own CD. Well, what it ACTUALLY comes down to is gently caress CDs. There's an album I own 8 copies of (2 are on cassette) and I've never even considered picking up the CD version. CD Store Day 2019
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Aug 7, 2013 03:35
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Electric Bugaloo posted:The only thing that keeps cassettes from looking "narc cop" is the novelty factor because it's 2013. Exactly.
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Aug 7, 2013 03:35
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CPL593H posted:Exactly. Y'all aren't punk and I'm telling everyone. I wouldn't actually give a poo poo if a band was selling CDRs. I've just never seen it.
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Aug 7, 2013 03:39
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Kevar posted:Y'all aren't punk and I'm telling everyone That's right, I take showers and prefer not to get kicked and pushed at musical performances too.
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Aug 7, 2013 03:47
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CPL593H posted:That's right, I take showers and prefer not to get kicked and pushed at musical performances too. So what you're saying is I should save my breath, you never were one? Either way, I'm not being serious. Cassettes are a thing some bands make/sell for cheap. Some people like them. Other people don't because sound quality and reasons. Vinyl and cassettes can co-exist peacefully, like in the 80s.
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Aug 7, 2013 03:54
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Snowy posted:Between cassette tapes and Billy Joel you guys are really starting to scare me, almost seemed like the PYF Can of Worms thread for a minute there. I'm beyond caring what people think of my music taste.
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Aug 7, 2013 06:20
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Snowy posted:Between cassette tapes and Billy Joel you guys are really starting to scare me, Oh come on. I like adventurous and heavy music as much as the next guy, I just consider it part of a balanced diet, along with my classic rock, pop hits, jazz, etc. The worst is when you have That Guy who only listens to something obscure and/or off-putting, mostly because it makes him feel superior to those around him with lesser taste (I knew a dude like that once; he was obsessed with Gong and Gerry Rafferty and thought Van Der Graaf Generator's "Killer" was deep and meaningful. Prick.)
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Allen Wren posted:Oh come on. I like adventurous and heavy music as much as the next guy, I just consider it part of a balanced diet, along with my classic rock, pop hits, jazz, etc. I know one of those. Pretty much anytime I talk about or suggest a band more than three people have heard of it's derivative crap and soooo many other lesser known bands do that better. edit: In other news! People are already price gouging the Re-Animator soundtrack on ebay. The non-limited edition LP, that only just started shipping out. CPL593H fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Aug 7, 2013 |
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Aug 7, 2013 08:36
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CPL593H posted:I know one of those. Pretty much anytime I talk about or suggest a band more than three people have heard of it's derivative crap and soooo many other lesser known bands do that better. And is still freely available from the site.
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Aug 7, 2013 09:47
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Kevar posted:Y'all aren't punk and I'm telling everyone. I've seen 'record labels' selling CDRs. It's not common but sometimes you get them when you order straight from South American ventures for example. Of course there's usually some cover art etc so if you don't actually look at the CD you won't notice a thing! (Unless it's a horrible recording which is also often the case but that happens with a lot of records/cassettes as well.)
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Aug 7, 2013 13:10
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I can't think of many gigs I've been to where there isn't at least one band selling CDRs, or a distro with some in at the very least. The tape thing kinda did it's thing about 4 years ago here, think it's pretty much vanished again.
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Aug 7, 2013 13:31
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The pHo posted:I can't think of many gigs I've been to where there isn't at least one band selling CDRs, or a distro with some in at the very least. Yeah but now you can be into cassettes before they were cool again.
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Aug 7, 2013 13:33
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CPL593H posted:Well ideally they could fancy them up a bit with jewel cases and artwork. How is this fundamentally different from charging people for home made cassettes (which sound worse)? I think cassettes should cost more because they sound worse.
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Aug 7, 2013 14:32
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Seriously gently caress cassettes, broken rear end medium. Then again I love bands who use that "sound" of lo-fi... gently caress, I am a hypocrite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz9T-ZR4ApE
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The pHo posted:The tape thing kinda did it's thing about 4 years ago here, think it's pretty much vanished again. Yeah, I have a couple cassette-only releases from Jerkwave Tapes (e.g., Nice Face's "Can I gently caress It," which I really wish would see a vinyl release), but the label seems to have died out a few years ago. If the fad's peak is already over, it looks like I might have missed the window on selling my Marantz SD9000 for maximum profit. But, I may want to just keep it anyway, because it is a quite a site to behold as far as cassette decks go. So many loving buttons and knobs and switches:  Also, I finally upgraded my Can records, and picked up a couple random 7"s:  "Ege Bamyasi" is an original US, and "Tago Mago" is the 1981 (white label) Spoon reissue. Both stomp the poo poo out of the dubious "UA" reissues I have. Also, here's a geeky tip if you're ever in the market for these: avoid the black label Spoon reissues from circa 2000, and seek out original white labels from '81. People who have heard many pressings of these albums have nothing but nasty things to say about the black labels, but compare the white labels favorably to the ultra-pricey (and also often faked, so there's that to worry about) original German pressings. Make sure they're the white labels with "Spoon" in smaller, un-stylized font, though, because I think there might be a small handful of white label '00 releases floating around out there. Here's a pic of the true white label: 
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Ron Burgundy posted:I'm beyond caring what people think of my music taste. Allen Wren posted:Oh come on. I like adventurous and heavy music as much as the next guy, I just consider it part of a balanced diet, along with my classic rock, pop hits, jazz, etc. Sorry, you're right, to each his or her own. My tri-state area upbringing gave me an early Billy Joel overexposure and I'm basically allergic now. I'm like the Bubble Boy for Billy Joel and Bruuuuce.
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Just to weigh in on the tape issue, I know that it's been somewhat fad-ish over the last few years to release stuff on tape, but there is some great music being put out, even in a place as small as Ireland. I think tapes have a certain quality which lends itself well to a few types of music (punk, noise, experimental stuff), and the releases themselves are always profesionally duplicated cassettes, usually with inserts, lyric sheets etc. and download codes included. Some awesome local tape releases from recent memory: http://fortevilfruit.bandcamp.com/album/music-for-church-cleaners (Solo church organ) http://fuckmountain.bandcamp.com/album/the-mountain-strikes-back (fuzzy good time punk) http://artforblind.bandcamp.com/album/w-lfbait (heavy as gently caress doom noise) So yeah, while some people jumped the bandwagon for a while (and "cassette store day" is horseshit obviously), there are people out there doing it for solid reasons. Also, I dunno about anywhere else, but putting stuff out on vinyl is crazy expensive over here, while tape is relatively inexpensive. CD-Rs have always sucked rear end.
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I've got a sneaky suspicion it's going to be a good evening ... (apologies for lovely phone camera):
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drat, that cassette player looks badass. I also recently got some Can records among other stuff. The Gyros record I picked up on a whim for a buck at a thrift store. It struck all my record-collector buttons (private press, heavy vinyl, not awful art + song titles). It's fairly decent rockabilly from the 80s, nothing special. It commands strangely high prices from Discogs, though. 
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Snowy posted:Sorry, you're right, to each his or her own. My tri-state area upbringing gave me an early Billy Joel overexposure and I'm basically allergic now. I'm like the Bubble Boy for Billy Joel and Bruuuuce. I can understand that. My Jersey origin makes me cringe whenever someone mentions Bon Jovi. landofcake posted:I've got a sneaky suspicion it's going to be a good evening ... (apologies for lovely phone camera): Oh man, I just heard Tab for the first time recently, poo poo is amazing.
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Snowy posted:Sorry, you're right, to each his or her own. My tri-state area upbringing gave me an early Billy Joel overexposure and I'm basically allergic now. I'm like the Bubble Boy for Billy Joel and Bruuuuce. Allen Wren posted:I can understand that. My Jersey origin makes me cringe whenever someone mentions Bon Jovi. Yes, but the difference here is that Bon Jovi is a corny-rear end band for Bud Light drinkers and chicks named "Desteny" whereas Bruce is God. Saying "I can't stand Springsteen because I was overexposed to his stuff growing up" is like saying "I hate the Beatles because my parents loved them." I get the impulse behind it but it just doesn't make sense to me. My dad's favorite band is the Talking Heads and he played them all the time when I was growing up, but I'll be damned if I ever stop listening to them.
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I can't stand Springsteen because I just don't like his music. Same with Billy Joel and countless others. There's no accounting for taste, I suppose.
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