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swickles posted:Hey, I was born in Johnstown! Incidentally 3 of my cousins went to school on athletic scholarships (football even!) from Johnstown, just not to Ivy League schools so yeah, they are somehow the victims of race. That's because Ivies don't hand out merit-based scholarships, including athletic scholarships. In a post full of wrong, he couldn't even get his rhetoric right.
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swickles posted:Hey, I was born in Johnstown! Incidentally 3 of my cousins went to school on athletic scholarships (football even!) from Johnstown, just not to Ivy League schools so yeah, they are somehow the victims of race. From Altoona myself. Seems really weird to see my town mentioned as a shithole of white poverty. I mean, it is, but still.
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He is right about one thing. After the Duke Lacrosse case Al Sharpton should never have been allowed to speak in public again.
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When describing the the Miami Dolphins in his "annual preview", a poster on FinHeaven who constantly will remind you he just "Says the truth" and always "gets real" decided to say these gemsquote:DL - This unit has been the strength of this team for several years now. The problem for the rest of the league is that it just got better. This unit may be the best in the NFL. But, it might not be just the best DL in the league. This group has a shot to be the best unit of all units for any team in the league. The depth that has been added to the Dolphins DL is insane. The Dolphins 2nd team DL could arguably be one of the best DLs in the league themselves. This whole group is nothing short of outstanding. quote:The big question marks on the line are LT and RG. Jon Martin takes over for Jake Wrong at the LT spot after playing RT for most of last season. While Martin wasnt outstanding at either T spot last season, he wasnt the worst in the league either Well, he's right. Martin wasn't the worst. According to PFF, he was only the second to worst
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Ribsauce posted:He is right about one thing. After the Duke Lacrosse case Al Sharpton should never have been allowed to speak in public again. Ehhhhhhhh you could've said the same thing after Tawana Bradley.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:When describing the the Miami Dolphins in his "annual preview", a poster on FinHeaven who constantly will remind you he just "Says the truth" and always "gets real" decided to say these gems I didn't think it was possible to fit that many contradictions into so few sentences.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:When describing the the Miami Dolphins in his "annual preview", a poster on FinHeaven who constantly will remind you he just "Says the truth" and always "gets real" decided to say these gems Why does this sound exactly like the Gang Greene Nation posts when it was thought Wayne Hunter was going to be the starting right tackle?
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whypick1 posted:I didn't think it was possible to fit that many contradictions into so few sentences. They're the best d-line in the NFL, unless they aren't. What's so weird about that
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BearDrivingTruck posted:Here's a comment from the following article: FWD: FWD: FWD: IMPORTANT  I want to say "ugh I can't believe that was posted somewhere" but I'm not that naive.
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Declan MacManus posted:They're the best d-line in the NFL, unless they aren't. What's so weird about that I understand what he was trying to say. He just worded it poorly. "This unit might not just be the best unit in the NFL this season, but the best unit in the NFL ever" Which is insane
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I understand what he was trying to say. He just worded it poorly. Oh. Well, you know, some people like to do big fat lines before they post on the internet
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Aug 4, 2013 01:13
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I understand what he was trying to say. He just worded it poorly. I thought he just meant that there was no unit - D-line or not - that had more talent than the Dolphin's D-line, not necessarily that it was the best of all time.
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sirtommygunn posted:I thought he just meant that there was no unit - D-line or not - that had more talent than the Dolphin's D-line, not necessarily that it was the best of all time. That's just as ridiculous. Especially considering that they aren't necessarily even the best d-line, going further than that doesn't matter.
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I understand the excitement, but we'd need Dion Jordan to have a Jevon Kearse season, Cam Wake to repeat 2012 or 2010... Soliai play as well as 2011, and Randy Starks be Randy Starks. Then we'd have one of the greatest lines of all time. As it stands, I'll take a run stopping unit that produces maybe 45 sacks. That'd be fine by me. So basically I want St Louis's line on steroids
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Yeah, don't get me wrong, they are very good. I'd say easily top-5 and probably top-3 in my worthless opinion. But I can't call them the best in the league yet.
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Atomic Spud posted:That's just as ridiculous. Especially considering that they aren't necessarily even the best d-line, going further than that doesn't matter. I don't follow the Dolphins too much, but are they even the best line in their division?
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Chichevache posted:I don't follow the Dolphins too much, but are they even the best line in their division? Easily. Who compares? New England is the closest, with Chandler Jones and Vince Wilfork. Atomic Spud posted:Yeah, don't get me wrong, they are very good. I'd say easily top-5 and probably top-3 in my worthless opinion. But I can't call them the best in the league yet. Nor can anyone who has a brain, so I'm with you there. On paper you'd expect big things but as we know, it's impossible to go by a year ago. People rise. People fall.
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I thought the Jets line was one of the best, but I'm phone posting and thus too lazy to research it.
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I really thought the Bills line was going to be amazing. And then last season happened. Sorry Bills fans 
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I mean in the world of really gross tattoos/body art, the Jets are near the top
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I mean in the world of really gross tattoos/body art, the Jets are near the top In a world where Stevie Johnson can't dance, Coples is allowed to leave that gross brand uncovered. 
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AAA DOLFAN posted:I mean in the world of really gross tattoos/body art, the Jets are near the top 
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The Jets are projected to have a really good line, but they have a rookie and a consistent underachiever in Ellis, and practically no depth after the starters.
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So, I feel like posting this. There's an unmentioned cleveland forum I used to post at semi-reguraly. Anyway, there's this guy that posts there that kind of semi-trolls a bit. (to the point where he'd probably likely have been probated/banned if he'd done stuff here) He's kind of had a  attitude about the NFL lately. Insisting that it's a not a good product, that the NBA is "Far better" from a pure athletic standpoint, and anyone who watches the NFL is an idiot. He was recently bemoaning the fact that "Hall of Fame" game's ratings dwarfed that of the MLB's post-season, and the NBA's finals. He's also said in the past that College Football is by far the better game because it allows for teams to become much more dominant through shere talent, while in the NFL it seems to generally rely on the fact that it's pretty much having a good qb=super bowl. Is his snobbery justified? It kind of sounds like he's the sort of guy who hates fun.
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To hold up the NBA, where offensive plays routinely are centered around and defined by drawing a foul, as some superior league is insane. I mean every sport involves diving or exaggerating to get a call, but the NBA is rapidly passing soccer for the worst at this. But that guy generally sounds like a bitchlord anyway
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quote:while in the NFL it seems to generally rely on the fact that it's pretty much having a good qb=super bowl. The recent Super Bowl champs were headlined by a guy who had two of the worst QBRs ever last season alone. His argument is already flawed, and his snobbery is less and less justified by everything you posted that came before what I quoted.
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Sweeney Tom posted:The recent Super Bowl champs were headlined by a guy who had two of the worst QBRs ever last season alone. His argument is already flawed, His argument is dumb but this argument is...not persuasive.
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To add, and this is non-football related, and I quote, he said that pretty much people that are fans of Auto Racing "Suffer from small penis syndrome", and that they're pretty much in the same lot as "Gun nuts". I just struggle to see this guy's argument. I also feel that the parity the NFL has is a bit more of a strength, than a weakness. In the MLB, NBA, etc, you can pretty much cross your team off of the list for the chance to win a title that year, even before the season begins often times. Within the NFL even with my terrible team, you could at least tell me "Eh, Kurt Warner, Tom Brady, all came out of nowhere. The Cardinals actually WON a Super Bowl.." and about a million other ancedotes to at least keep me interested during the season.
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FuzzySkinner posted:So, I feel like posting this. He's right.
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The problem with saying you need a good QB to win the superbowl is that if you win the superbowl, your QB is automatically considered good, unless they're Trent Dilfer.
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FuzzySkinner posted:So, I feel like posting this. Well duh college teams can dominate through sheer talent, because all the good teams get all the good recruits. Free agency and salary caps prevent that in the NFL. College and Pro ball are two sides of the same coin, so saying one is better is bullshit
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Febreeze posted:Well duh college teams can dominate through sheer talent, because all the good teams get all the good recruits. Free agency and salary caps prevent that in the NFL. College and Pro ball are two sides of the same coin, so saying one is better is bullshit The salary cap is seriously the best part of the NFL. The whole reason "Good QB = Super Bowl" fallacy exists is because if you are lucky enough to get one unproven great player cheap, you have just won the football lottery. It would suck if the NFL turned into the NBA where Peyton Manning is running an option offense with Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The salary cap is seriously the best part of the NFL. The whole reason "Good QB = Super Bowl" fallacy exists is because if you are lucky enough to get one unproven great player cheap, you have just won the football lottery. It would suck if the NFL turned into the NBA where Peyton Manning is running an option offense with Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson. Well it would suck if it wasn't for my team.
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Judging by Miamis cap they'd spend like 60 million while Ross says they need to draw in fans somehow
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The salary cap is seriously the best part of the NFL. The whole reason "Good QB = Super Bowl" fallacy exists is because if you are lucky enough to get one unproven great player cheap, you have just won the football lottery. It would suck if the NFL turned into the NBA where Peyton Manning is running an option offense with Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson. I know what you're getting at, but any offense that forced Manning to run would be loving hilarious to see.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:It would suck if the NFL turned into the NBA where Peyton Manning is running an option offense with Adrian Peterson and Calvin Johnson. what does this even mean Also fun fact the NBA has a salary cap. Additional fun fact(s): this conversation is really dumb and you are all also dumb.
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Are you angry with us or are you angry at the NBA for being kind of lovely?
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