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Paper Jam Dipper posted:Wait so he simply beat the deadline? No. The Dryden camp is saying "the federal accountability act changed the rules mid-campaign so we couldn't execute on our plans to raise the money", but I was just saying that the rules did not change mid-campaign and they should have been well aware of them.
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Something I always wondered is what was the Conservative's justification for cutting the per vote subsidy. I know I must have missed it
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bunnyofdoom posted:Something I always wondered is what was the Conservative's justification for cutting the per vote subsidy. I know I must have missed it The average citizen shouldn't be forced to foot the bill for political parties blah blah blah.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Something I always wondered is what was the Conservative's justification for cutting the per vote subsidy. I know I must have missed it ARE TAXES. That was it.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Something I always wondered is what was the Conservative's justification for cutting the per vote subsidy. I know I must have missed it The Tories are basically the masters of fundraising from individuals. That's what everyone means when they talk about the voter databases all the time. While getting rid of a per-vote subsidy does hurt themselves, it hurts the other parties way more. e: At least that's the actual reason. The justification does appear to me "MY TAXES!"
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PittTheElder posted:The Tories are basically the masters of fundraising from individuals. That's what everyone means when they talk about the voter databases all the time. While getting rid of a per-vote subsidy does hurt themselves, it hurts the other parties way more. I know the actual reason, trust me. It was how they sold it.
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One of the crappy things about losing the per vote subsidy was that it used to help convince people out to vote in ridings where their party couldn't possibly win. One vote can't change the course of the election, but it could help the party run a bigger campaign next time. Now that it's gone, the motivation to get out and vote in some ridings is pretty low.
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Aug 8, 2013 01:47
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They really need to get rid of the election expenses subsidy. It is like more free money for the top three, maybe four parties in a riding.
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Aug 8, 2013 02:28
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Huge Liability posted:One of the crappy things about losing the per vote subsidy was that it used to help convince people out to vote in ridings where their party couldn't possibly win. One vote can't change the course of the election, but it could help the party run a bigger campaign next time. Now that it's gone, the motivation to get out and vote in some ridings is pretty low. That's not a bug, it's a feature.
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I hated it when people bitched and moaned about how their taxes were going to subsidize parties they didn't vote for. All I could ever say was "Yeah, and my taxes are going to support your party, which I didn't vote for either. Suck it up." The only people who lost from it were people who pay taxes but don't vote. It's like how people bitch and moan about their taxes going to pay for welfare programs, but have no real response when I respond that I'd rather my taxes didn't go to pay for the military. Part of being an adult means you suck it up and do things you don't like, including paying taxes which some small part of will go towards something you personally disapprove of. That is a universal fact that is true of literally everyone, but only certain people spend all their time complaining about it.
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Aug 8, 2013 04:37
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Huge Liability posted:One of the crappy things about losing the per vote subsidy was that it used to help convince people out to vote in ridings where their party couldn't possibly win. One vote can't change the course of the election, but it could help the party run a bigger campaign next time. Now that it's gone, the motivation to get out and vote in some ridings is pretty low. However, the principle behind it was that if corporate and union donations are banned, a per-vote subsidy should be put into place in order to assist parties in meeting the financial requirements of a modern campaign. I would say a bigger issue is the use by the CPC of tax credits on party donations. It disproportionately benefits them and can't be taken advantage of by students or the poor.
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vyelkin posted:I hated it when people bitched and moaned about how their taxes were going to subsidize parties they didn't vote for. All I could ever say was "Yeah, and my taxes are going to support your party, which I didn't vote for either. Suck it up." The only people who lost from it were people who pay taxes but don't vote. Taxes going toward things I support is the government doing its job, and that is the only thing the government should do. Taxes going toward anything else is socialism, and the private sector could do the same job twice as efficiently and at half the cost because Free Market.
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Aug 8, 2013 07:58
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The best part of "I don't want my taxes funding ..." arguments is going Full Chartalist and telling all involved that taxes have nothing whatsoever to do with (federal) expenditures and then disappearing in a poof of smoke.
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Nothing brightens my day quite like seeing Sun News Network get poo poo on  CBC posted:Sun News Network has been denied a guaranteed spot on basic TV packages in a CRTC ruling released today.
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Aug 8, 2013 16:21
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Sun Media: Literally Less Useful than Television for Blind Francophones.
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colonel_korn posted:Nothing brightens my day quite like seeing Sun News Network get poo poo on Looking at today's releases in more detail, they're planning to do a review this fall about the rules surrounding the distribution of Canadian news channels - so this isn't over yet?
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Maybe Sun TV can pull themselves up by their bootstraps, stop being so lazy, and make a product that people actually want. Failing that, I hear you can make $18 an hour working at the Tim Horton's in Fort Mac.
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Y'all ready for some CLASS WAR?  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/a-nation-of-100000-firefighters/article13647608/#dashboard/follows/
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Cultural Imperial posted:Y'all ready for some CLASS WAR? margaret windbag posted:I have nothing against firefighters, personally. But times have changed. We can’t go on like this. I could write the same column about the police. You guys are supposed to protect us. But we can’t afford you any more. I have nothing against healthcare, personally. But times have changed. We can't go on like this. I could write the same column about employment insurance. You guys are supposed to help us. But we can't afford you any more. Also: holy poo poo with a degree in English, no one told her you're not supposed to start a phrase with a conjunction.
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Aug 8, 2013 19:04
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Gub'mint sure worked well in Walkerton, ayuh. *spit*
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Ceciltron posted:I have nothing against healthcare, personally. But times have changed. We can't go on like this. I could write the same column about employment insurance. You guys are supposed to help us. But we can't afford you any more. Well, this is actually a disputed topic in English: wikipedia posted:Many students are taught that certain conjunctions (such as "and", "but", "because", and "so") should not begin sentences. But authorities such as the Chicago Manual of Style state that this teaching has "no historical or grammatical foundation." Not that I agree with her or anything.
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B-but it's so hard being white! Waaaaaagh!
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Even happens in the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence: "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes[...]. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations,..." Which is grammatically pretty similar to "I have nothing against firefighters, personally. But times have changed." By any other standard of writing quality, though...
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Cultural Imperial posted:How much do you think Wente is paid? No idea but I know a few firemen who could do her job equally well. Emergency services have absurd negotiating power and anyone who isn't EMS is paid spectacularly well but seriously suggesting we should have fewer firemen because stuff just doesn't burn like it used to is such a distracting bit of tomfoolery that I couldn't see a sensible point even if she had made one.
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I'm a terrible human being and hope someone sets her house on fire.
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But Wente can afford to pay the privatized, part-time brigade to put it out. Don't you see, you're playing right into her claws!
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The funny part is that we very much can afford it. All we'd have to do is raise property taxes. Dunno about you guys, but raising property taxes so that the fire department can maintain good response times sounds good to me.
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That's hardly the worst Wente article ever. Firefighters do have serious clout, and the issues over firefighters responding to medical emergencies and/or merging fire and EMS are equally serious. It's too bad she ends the article just blathering on about how fires are deprecated or something. Also, the point about there being competition for firefighter jobs is asinine. Just because there are 500 applicants for 20 jobs doesn't mean that they're all suitably qualified. Hell, a ratio of 25 applicants/job is far from unusual. Nor does the fact that there are so many applicants mean that salaries should be lower or that salaries should be lowered to the bare minimum considered acceptable by the bottom 10% of applicants. But hey, that's conservative editorializing for you.
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Cultural Imperial posted:Y'all ready for some CLASS WAR? Don't read the comments. I enjoyed the comment about how Canmore, Alberta's volunteer fire department would be perfect for the 4th largest city in North America.
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eXXon posted:Just because there are 500 applicants for 20 jobs doesn't mean that they're all suitably qualified. And by suitably qualified we mean they're a different colour from most other applicants (page 33). flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Aug 8, 2013 |
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In other news(papers): http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...lice-detective/ quote:Outspoken Ontario Ombudsman Andre Marin says a Durham police detective accused him of “being card-carrying member of al-Qaeda” over Twitter, after the ombudsman took sharp arm at police actions after the shooting death of Toronto teen Sammy Yatim. Not just a cop, but a detective thought he could get away with this.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:In other news(papers): I can't stand Joe Mayo's parties. You know, the second you walk in, he's got you on a watch list.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Man, I have really turned from a guy who wanted to be a cop five years ago to a serious gently caress the Police kinda guy. I wonder why? Is the answer related to your regdate?
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pokeyman posted:Is the answer related to your regdate? Actually, no.* It's more that I've become more aware of how completely lovely cops are sometimes in the past five years. *I didn't even remember I'm from 2008
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bunnyofdoom posted:Actually, no.* It's more that I've become more aware of how completely lovely cops are sometimes in the past five years. We good ones don't get their press. When that poo poo stops being news, worry.
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flakeloaf posted:We good ones don't get their press. When that poo poo stops being news, worry. I'm also soured off an incident that happened to my friend this weekend.
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flakeloaf posted:No idea but I know a few firemen who could do her job equally well. I assume she's someone who thinks firefighters sit around the firehall all day waiting for the phone to ring. A big part of their job every day is fire education and inspections. So if there are fewer fires these days, maybe it's because the firefighters are doing a great job! So they should definitely be paid less and or fired.
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Any truth to the rumor that Chinese doctors only get paid by patients who are healthy?
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sbaldrick posted:Don't read the comments. I enjoyed the comment about how Canmore, Alberta's volunteer fire department would be perfect for the 4th largest city in North America. Good advice. I wonder how many of those are paid astroturfers and sock puppets. The Canmore comment sounds like something out of Rob Ford's office. I like the comment about how the middle class is being squeezed by unions and other evils. I'll have to check my history but I think unions might have had something to do with the establishment and growth of the middle class.
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