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Wootcannon posted:And there was me thinking I was the campest biker in Britain. He was surprisingly un-camp in that episode - it's "The Sleepless Night", it's here if you're interested. 15 minutes in. (Julian Clary used to have a Vespa so you've got a fair way to go for the title even so)
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Snowdens Secret posted:When people lay down a bike to avoid hitting something, where do they think the bike is going to go? If they think about it consciously at all, they think the bike will stop faster with all that stuff dragging on the road than those 2 silly bits of rubber.
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Aug 4, 2013 03:09
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Pretty sure the only good reason to "lay it down" is if it IS going to hit something or go over something (like a cliff) and you'd very much like not to be a part of that. And then it less about laying it down and more about getting off. Batcat! Batcat! fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Aug 4, 2013 |
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Aug 4, 2013 19:30
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Phenomneek posted:Pretty sure the only good reason to "lay it down" is if it IS going to hit something or go over something (like a cliff) and you'd very much like not to be a part of that. And then it less about laying it down and more about getting off. If you are close enough to a building or a cliff to where there is a 100% chance its going to hit or fall off, then there is a 100% chance you are going to slide far enough right along side that bike to join it. Unless, for some reason you are going 80 on a dirt road that ends on the edge of a canyon.
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Aug 4, 2013 19:40
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Also it was probably proceeded by riding like a dong in an unsafe manner.
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Aug 4, 2013 19:55
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"The canyon jumped out from between two parked cars!"
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Aug 4, 2013 20:08
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blackmanjew posted:If you are close enough to a building or a cliff to where there is a 100% chance its going to hit or fall off, then there is a 100% chance you are going to slide far enough right along side that bike to join it. I haven't been able to think of a realistic scenario anywhere other than off-road.
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Aug 5, 2013 00:38
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Phenomneek posted:I haven't been able to think of a realistic scenario anywhere other than off-road.
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Aug 5, 2013 03:19
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blackmanjew posted:If you are close enough to a building or a cliff to where there is a 100% chance its going to hit or fall off, then there is a 100% chance you are going to slide far enough right along side that bike to join it. A flopping human body stops faster than a motorcycle full on the brakes.
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Aug 5, 2013 07:06
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Z3n posted:A flopping human body stops faster than a motorcycle full on the brakes. "Next on Mythbusters..."
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Aug 5, 2013 12:55
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Safety Dance posted:"Next on Mythbusters..." that would actually be a cool mythbusters
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Aug 5, 2013 13:43
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ADINSX posted:that would actually be a cool mythbusters They would gently caress it up
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Aug 5, 2013 13:54
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Flikken posted:They would gently caress it up While talking stupidly about flopping human bodies for an hour.
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Aug 5, 2013 14:31
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And then end on "motorcycles are dangerous kids don't try this at home" and the dummies explode.
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Aug 5, 2013 15:41
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While in Vermont this weekend, I learned that the local Walmart sells helmets. They were exactly as cheap looking as you'd expect.
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Aug 5, 2013 15:47
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Mr. Eric Praline posted:Yeah, one of the trackday operators out here tells everyone in the rider meeting that if you're too hot in a corner and headed for the wall, stab the rear brake, lay it down, and lowside in if you can, rather than hit it straight on. That seems like bad advice, you could also just keep adding lean angle/trail braking until you low side, with the possibility of actually making the corner. That and jabbing the front brake will always cause a low side, jabbing the rear has the possibility of causing a high side. And on the subject, I had to layerdan when I ran off the track at high speed and couldn't bleed off enough speed to avoid running into a tire wall. A tumbling person and bike does stop faster than a street tire on grass and dirt.
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Aug 5, 2013 22:55
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Zool posted:That seems like bad advice, you could also just keep adding lean angle/trail braking until you low side, with the possibility of actually making the corner. That and jabbing the front brake will always cause a low side, jabbing the rear has the possibility of causing a high side. Even a casual examination of crashes under braking in bike racing proves this. If someone loses the front end while diving into the end of a straight with a pack of other bikes, their bike seemingly shoots forward, as if accelerating, and takes out whoever is unfortunate enough to be in front.
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Aug 5, 2013 23:24
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Guy at work left his KZ1000r at the shop because it was raining, he told me he doesn't like to take it out in the rain since it always kicks the rear wheel out from having too much power.
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Aug 10, 2013 00:36
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Zool posted:That seems like bad advice, you could also just keep adding lean angle/trail braking until you low side, with the possibility of actually making the corner. That and jabbing the front brake will always cause a low side, jabbing the rear has the possibility of causing a high side. It also has the advantage of at least making it more likely, if not certain, you'll hit feet-first rather than head-first, and I know which part of my body is both more designed to deal with slowing me down and which bit is easier to fix...
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Aug 10, 2013 00:40
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Retarded Pimp posted:Guy at work left his KZ1000r at the shop because it was raining, he told me he doesn't like to take it out in the rain since it always kicks the rear wheel out from having too much power. Did you tell him to upgrade to tyres that aren't 30 years old?
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Aug 10, 2013 01:06
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He says the tire were new last year, I said to keep off the throttle and he replied that it has too much power for wet roads. This is the someone they used to call Superbike Mike because he'd try to get a knee down, go too slow and fall over. He also told me about someone using a copper penny as a shim*. *poo poo that didn't happen txt
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Aug 10, 2013 02:20
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I'm taking my basic handling test this week and I've been reading the threads here. I'm on page 9 of this one and already I've come to realise this is going to be the rest of my life; listening to people who don't have the first idea about motorbikes talk about motorbikes and how they don't need gear and that all motorcycles are going to kill me, etc. I feel like it's just not worth the time explaining it to people because frankly for every responsible rider there's five loving retards who perfectly embody the stereotype and contribute to the death machine anecdotes. I'm really grateful I have one family member who actually owns and rides bikes because god drat if people in general just don't have the first idea about bikes. 
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Aug 12, 2013 12:49
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Don't worry, most of the people you meet just ask "What kind is it?" and "What size is it?" even though it may be written on the side in big rear end letters.
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Aug 12, 2013 13:06
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And they only ask so they can spout off about their uncle who has a (bigger and therefore superior) 1250 Sportster Big Throbbing Night Rod Softtail Limited Custom but he just trailers it to Sturgis now after he had to lay 'er down to save the life of a child/deer/truck/wall that just "came outta nowhere, man".
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Aug 12, 2013 13:28
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Coordinator010 posted:I'm taking my basic handling test this week and I've been reading the threads here. I'm on page 9 of this one and already I've come to realise this is going to be the rest of my life; listening to people who don't have the first idea about motorbikes talk about motorbikes and how they don't need gear and that all motorcycles are going to kill me, etc. I feel like it's just not worth the time explaining it to people because frankly for every responsible rider there's five loving retards who perfectly embody the stereotype and contribute to the death machine anecdotes. I'm really grateful I have one family member who actually owns and rides bikes because god drat if people in general just don't have the first idea about bikes. Welcome to being a car/bike/roadbike/plane/motorsports guy. Most people are fat, sedentary, insulated homebodies that don't like to get dirty or do things outside of a very small bubble of either physical or mental activity. They spew poo poo from their mouths because it's how they justify their inactivity to themselves. This isn't a new thing. If it doesn't involve turning on their TV or staring at facebook for 6 hours, most people don't care. Seriously, who gives a poo poo? I'm not an evangelist. I race cars, fly planes, ride motorcycles, drink good wine, expensive microbrews, etc. I'm an "enthusiast" You try and talk about it to most people and their eyes just glaze over. Simple solution, I simply don't. If someone comes up and says something stupid, I just look at them like they're a retarded five year old and move about my day. Why waste your time? It's the same thing dealing with most other motorcycle riders. I wear gear, I armor up, but gently caress, I hate "ATGATT" types. If someone wants to be stupid, they're going to be stupid. They've already justified it in their head, and you're not going to change that. They wanna go splatter themselves across the pavement? Cool. Let 'em. Natural selection does its job.
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ThatCguy posted:Welcome to being a car/bike/roadbike/plane/motorsports guy. Most people are fat, sedentary, insulated homebodies that don't like to get dirty or do things outside of a very small bubble of either physical or mental activity. They spew poo poo from their mouths because it's how they justify their inactivity to themselves. This isn't a new thing. If it doesn't involve turning on their TV or staring at facebook for 6 hours, most people don't care. Cool post about how awesome you are, bro.
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Aug 12, 2013 15:40
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Bovril Delight posted:Cool post about how awesome you are, bro. Fat, sedentary homebody strike a nerve man? I'm sorry dude.
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Aug 12, 2013 15:47
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Bovril Delight posted:Cool post about how awesome you are, bro. This guy is super awesome. How dare you try to degrade his amazing manhoodness with your condescending fat person attitude?!
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Aug 12, 2013 16:12
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ThatCguy posted:Fat, sedentary homebody strike a nerve man? I'm sorry dude. I'm pretty sure the second line in your post was just the most douchey thing he's read in a while.
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Aug 12, 2013 16:32
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Tbh I also want to learn to fly, but only helicopters because they're the motorcycles of the sky. Planes are sky cages.
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KARMA! posted:Tbh I also want to learn to fly, but only helicopters because they're the motorcycles of the sky. Planes are sky cages. 172s are the Ninja 250s of the air world.
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Rode the 3-pass-blast (Stevens Pass, Blewitt Pass, and Snoqualmie Pass) last weekend with a couple friends. Our group consisted of two Harleys, a Buell, and a SV650. MOPAR hat guy in Leavenworth identified us as "crotch rocket guys, I can always tell a crotch rocket costume" and explained to us that he bump drafts semis on his "chopper Harley" to avoid hitting deer in the area. Oh deer.
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blackmanjew posted:I'm pretty sure the second line in your post was just the most douchey thing he's read in a while. It was an example of not bothering to try and explain things to people who don't know or care.
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Aug 12, 2013 17:30
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blackmanjew posted:I'm pretty sure the second line in your post was just the most douchey thing he's read in a while. Underneath the douche presentation, it rings pretty true, though. Describes almost everyone I know aside from my 'weird hobbies' group.
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Aug 12, 2013 17:34
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blackmanjew posted:I'm pretty sure the second line in your post was just the most douchey thing he's read in a while. Perhaps a little douchey, but it has a lot of truth behind it... I've mostly given up mentioning my wheel-oriented hobbies in conversation since rarely does anything good come of it. Either people think I'm SO CRAZY for doing all that "dangerous" and "dirty" stuff, or they start talking out their rear end about things they don't know anything about (like the "my uncle Layer Dan" stories) with no intention of actually having a discussion, learning anything, or changing their mind. I've learned to just not say anything and let it go, it's just not worth it. Guinness fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Aug 12, 2013 |
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Aug 12, 2013 18:01
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Guinness posted:Perhaps a little douchey, but it has a lot of truth behind it... Yeah. I agreed with his whole post, even the tone. I have a similar set of hobbies, but I try not to be a douchebag about it. It's been a long road to discover that most people don't feel that they themselves all that interesting, or they think you ARE interesting, and want to connect with you in some way. Face it, normal people don't go places wearing armored clothes, and those clothes indicate a type of lifestyle that the average person kinda wants to be a part of, and is only anecdotally aware of.
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:Yeah. I agreed with his whole post, even the tone. I have a similar set of hobbies, but I try not to be a douchebag about it. It's been a long road to discover that most people don't feel that they themselves all that interesting, or they think you ARE interesting, and want to connect with you in some way. Yeah but most of us armor wearing loons dont talk about "drinking fine wine and expensive microbrews" as if thats something so amazing only we thought of it and the rest of the proles can just be content to sit there fat and jealous. It brings to mind hipster douchedom of the highest level.
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Reminds me my pharmacist told me the old chestnut "I'd like a bike, but I'd kill myself. I just can't control my need for speed." Like, ok guy. Or you're scared or just not that interested but don't try to tell me you're too badass for bikes.
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Covert Ops Wizard posted:Reminds me my pharmacist told me the old chestnut "I'd like a bike, but I'd kill myself. I just can't control my need for speed." Like, ok guy. Or you're scared or just not that interested but don't try to tell me you're too badass for bikes. I have a friend with a similar mindset, but it's "I'd love to get a bike, but I know I'd do too much stupid poo poo and ride way too fast." Knowing how he drives, it's a smart choice for him to make.
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Covert Ops Wizard posted:Reminds me my pharmacist told me the old chestnut "I'd like a bike, but I'd kill myself. I just can't control my need for speed." Like, ok guy. Or you're scared or just not that interested but don't try to tell me you're too badass for bikes.
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