Snowdens Secret posted:No DUI that I recall, but IIRC a minor stink was made because he was just an E-2 or E-3 striker and the 'appropriate award' was a captain's letter. In practice his real reward was TM A school. So he was like an undes guy? Do undes guys actually still go on subs, anymore, or was this a back in the day thing?
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Do carrier and sub nukes swap over at all or is it once you're assigned to a sub that it's your assignment for life?
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Aug 11, 2013 04:46
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holocaust bloopers posted:Do carrier and sub nukes swap over at all or is it once you're assigned to a sub that it's your assignment for life? its pretty much permanent barring disqualification
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Aug 11, 2013 04:47
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Not to mention subs are all volunteers.
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Aug 11, 2013 04:51
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Mad Dragon posted:Not to mention subs are all volunteers. Not anymore. I was one of the first to be volun'told. There were about 15 of us; 6 from EOD like me, 6 pilots, 3 SWO, etc. The year after, they admitted that they were doing it: http://www.navytimes.com/article/20091024/NEWS/910240304/Academy-falls-short-sub-volunteers EDIT: Just to be clear, for the 15 of us, it wasn't one of our "choices". Needs of the navy. I've heard stories of doing it to enlisted, but nothing first hand or really concrete. Sacrilage fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Aug 11, 2013 |
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Aug 11, 2013 05:04
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Lol instead of looking at why no one wants to do it they just tell people without another glance - classic navy :^)
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Aug 11, 2013 05:14
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mokhtar belmokhtar posted:its pretty much permanent barring disqualification I must be losing my mind, I thought you had done both attack subs and aircraft carriers as a nuke. Was that a different goon? Also, was the job really all that inherently different between the dudes that work on carriers and subs? I've heard that being a nuke on a CVN meant never getting to take shore leave or something like that (I guess they never shut down the reactor or something?)
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Aug 11, 2013 05:18
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CISNAZI WEEDHITLER posted:I must be losing my mind, I thought you had done both attack subs and aircraft carriers as a nuke. Was that a different goon? i was medically disqualified from sub and nuke duty ket, in his infinite badass guy nukedom, will possibly refer to at as "sad panda" carrier people have it like 10x better dont let their whining fool you
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Aug 11, 2013 05:26
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Sacrilage posted:Not anymore. I was one of the first to be volun'told. There were about 15 of us; 6 from EOD like me, 6 pilots, 3 SWO, etc. I was voluntold to go subs as well. Admiral Donald didn't like me, despite my other two interviewers giving me the thumbs up. I was initially a SWO selectee for STA-21 which meant I couldn't technically do anything but SWO. They changed my service selection paperwork while I was on leave and made me sign it and email it back. Then when I came back selected for nuke, I raised a stink saying that I was preselect SWO and couldn't change. They tried to get me to stay SWO-N, but allowed me to switch to just plain SWO. Then about two weeks later, called me in, and told me I was volunteering for subs since I had the best math grades of my class, and I didn't have a choice in the matter. Cue a clusterfuck of an admin guy using the wrong credit card which causes me to miss my initial flight, a short trip in DC where I felt like my sinuses were going to kill me the entire time, breezing past my first two interviews, and then I got called bottom 10% twice by Donald and told to get out of his office. This was spring 2010, btw.
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Aug 11, 2013 12:50
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Mr. Nice! posted:I got called bottom 10% twice by Donald and told to get out of his office. Could you elaborate more on this interview/nuke interviews in general? I was under the impression it was hard to screw up for some reason
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DinosaurWarfare posted:Could you elaborate more on this interview/nuke interviews in general? I was under the impression it was hard to screw up for some reason You go to DC and do two interviews with Naval Reactors Engineers, who grill you on math, physics, chemistry, and anything you may have in your background (mechanical engineers get butt raped, often). Assuming you pass both interviews (which is about 75%) you get a one-on-one with Admiral (now Richardson), a 4-star admiral in charge of all naval nuclear reactors. He reviews you history, grades, EC stuff, and your interviews, and will ask questions (or just berate you; that happens alot). He has the final say whether you go or not. When I did my interview with Admiral Donald in 2008, he asked "So son, why do you want to go subs?" to which I responded "Sir, I don't want to go subs; I want to go EOD. I am here against my will." Que awkward pause...."So boxing huh? I like a man who can take a punch. You're going to be a great submarine officer." That was that. It's definitely easy to screw up, and the Admiral liking you is a complete and utter crap-shoot. It really says nothing about the applicant.
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CISNAZI WEEDHITLER posted:Also, was the job really all that inherently different between the dudes that work on carriers and subs? I've heard that being a nuke on a CVN meant never getting to take shore leave or something like that (I guess they never shut down the reactor or something?) Different jobs, really. Generally the carriers have a lot more people, so the watchsections are a little easier. Not to mention their sea-shore rotation is loving stupid easy. I just transferred to my shore duty, which is actually a SWO sea-duty, and I am loving life. I could do this poo poo forever. Not saying there aren't crappy parts of being a SWO, so take it for what it is. For the 3.5 years I was on the sub, I took exactly 2 weeks of leave; one week after each deployment. I missed 3 Christmases, 3 4th of July's, 3 Thanksgivings, etc etc. We were out to sea for all of them. The last Christmas/NY combo, we were actually on mission, so it was 3 weeks before I could talk to my wife >< EDIT: Last couple posts have been kind of negative; just to make it clear, this is a big chunk of the "bad part" about being on subs. Otherwise, subs is a great job; smart people, good comradeship, meaningful and complicated missions, plenty of penises, you just can't ask for a better way to serve. Sacrilage fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Aug 11, 2013 |
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Did you pick up a sub officer spot at a DESRON? Most guys I know that did that for their "shore" tour enjoyed it. As for my interviews, knocked both first and second out of the park. I was an economics major with a math minor. They did ask a lot of math and a bit of physics. I hammered through it all without too much trouble. I was third or fourth in line to talk to Admiral Donald. The first was the daughter of another admiral and it was all a formality. They had a polite chat from what she told me. When I went in, I had a seat. He glanced at me once. Asked what I did prior service to get my good conduct. I told him I was a deck seaman who got into STA-21. Asked me what would make me succeed in the nuclear program. I told him I had good study skills and had never once failed at any scholastic endeavor I attempted. He said that's exactly what the bottom 10% of his nuclear officers say and asked what made me different. I said I have an impeccable record, busted my rear end from the absolute bottom of the navy and was about to commission as a result. I have the drive to do whatever I set my mind to. He dug through my transcripts and asked what my GPA was. I told him 3.65 but made sure to mention straight As in physics and an A in calc 1&3. I got a B in calc 2. He once again said my transcripts represent the bottom 10% of his students and told me we were done. Outside of the one glance at me when I walked in, he never again looked up and didn't once make eye contact with me. I spoke with both the captain and a lieutenant (O-6 & O-3) about this afterwards while we were out having a beer. They said it was almost universal that Donald rejected prior service that weren't nukes or at least submariners. Something about the typical retention of non-nuke prior-service in the nuclear field was almost universally lower than any other form of accessions. Almost all of those that made it in were done as soon as their obligation was up. Prior-nukes/submariners almost always stuck it out for a career.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Admirals being douchebags. That sucks dude; he was an asshat. Anyone who tries to rock a haircut like Donald did while in the military shouldn't be talking about bottom 10%. loving 'tarded.
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Sacrilage posted:That sucks dude; he was an asshat. Anyone who tries to rock a haircut like Donald did while in the military shouldn't be talking about bottom 10%. loving 'tarded. Dude, I wasn't sweating it too much. I got turned down for something I was forced to do. It's not like I wanted to be a sub officer. I would have just done it begrudgingly for the pittance of a signing bonus and because it was my job. You didn't answer my question, though. You get hooked up with a DESRON gig?
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I was a prior service, SWO selected, liberal arts major voluntold to go to an interview. Told Adm. Donald I didn't want to be there and he still picked me. I always tell people I regret not tanking the interview, but I'm not really sure what else I could have done besides play an idiot during my lead-in interviews.
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Cerekk posted:I was a prior service, SWO selected, liberal arts major voluntold to go to an interview. Told Adm. Donald I didn't want to be there and he still picked me. I always tell people I regret not tanking the interview, but I'm not really sure what else I could have done besides play an idiot during my lead-in interviews. I can't remember, what were you when you were enlisted?
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FT. All my peers from then are chiefs now. Oh well.
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Mr. Nice! posted:You didn't answer my question, though. You get hooked up with a DESRON gig? Sorry, selective reading. Yep, working at a DESRON now. I assume it's normally a simple job, but we're well into the workup cycle, so I get to spend my days in class with pilots; 10 hours of them trying to lecture me on how to do operational planning is enough to make me alcoholic. Again.
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Cerekk posted:FT. All my peers from then are chiefs now. Oh well. I thought you were a sub type, but couldn't remember for sure. That just reinforces what I thought. You already had fish. No way he'd turn you away. Sacrilage posted:Sorry, selective reading. Yep, working at a DESRON now. I assume it's normally a simple job, but we're well into the workup cycle, so I get to spend my days in class with pilots; 10 hours of them trying to lecture me on how to do operational planning is enough to make me alcoholic. Again. Well, some are always better than others. I could talk for days about a pineapple DESRON. Didn't have to deal with pilots much, though.
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lovely day to be in on duty: http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/15/world/asia/india-submarine-disaster/index.html
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Mr. Nice! posted:I spoke with both the captain and a lieutenant (O-6 & O-3) about this afterwards while we were out having a beer. They said it was almost universal that Donald rejected prior service that weren't nukes or at least submariners. Something about the typical retention of non-nuke prior-service in the nuclear field was almost universally lower than any other form of accessions. Almost all of those that made it in were done as soon as their obligation was up. Prior-nukes/submariners almost always stuck it out for a career. Data point: My study-buddy/checkout partner through Power School and Prototype was a prior Marine aviation mechanic. Dude is pretty drat awesome though. Says he made ADM Donald crack a smile during his interview.
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Nibbles the Shark posted:Data point: My study-buddy/checkout partner through Power School and Prototype was a prior Marine aviation mechanic. Was he a STEM major? That will decidedly have an effect. I was just an economics major with a minor in math. Also, if you could make that crotchety old bastard smile, I figure you're a shoe in.
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Baloogan posted:What is food like on a sub? The Los Angeles Times in 2003 posted:On cue, mess specialist Richard Youhan begins slicing a 25-pound prime rib roast into half-inch-thick pieces, before gingerly transferring the second entree, baked lobster tails with spicy Old Bay Seasoning, onto a serving tray. http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jan/18/business/fi-submarine18 This article makes it sound like sub cooks are the poo poo and that you guys do alright when it comes to food, especially compared to the other services. And check out this groovy footage from 1978 (spot the neckbeards): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEOHTT4IG-A quote:Physical fitness is encouraged Cue doughy, pale, middle-aged guy with glasses sucking on a stogie and looking confused: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB0guuxSlcY
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Some of our cooks were actually pretty good when they weren't being lazy. Some were just lazy no matter what. Lobster and steak/prime rib is usually something that's reserved for halfway night on long deployments.
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Local Resident posted:And check out this groovy footage from 1978 (spot the neckbeards): Between the title of "Pride Runs Deep" and the groovy 70s soundtrack, I was expecting a gay porno.
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The steak would be 60% gristle or more and would be cooked to oblivion. You'd get a couple good bites out of it but that's it. Plus most food you could go back for seconds, but not steaks. Add in the fact that you've got like 8 minutes to eat and how long it takes to cut those good bites out of all the gristle and steak night was just a hassle. On the other hand, steak night usually meant fresh rolls, potatoes and beans or asparagus. I don't remember ever seeing lobster, we'd do steak with shrimp sometimes and the shrimp was barely recognizable mush. I generally tried to avoid the mess decks entirely during seafood meals. That '70s vid isn't an inaccurate representation. The best meals were often when they could just fry the poo poo out of something. That's a boomer, though, holy crap that mess deck is huge, a fast boat you certainly don't have room to pass around plates of stuff.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Add in the fact that you've got like 8 minutes to eat quote:That '70s vid isn't an inaccurate representation. I also like how the only black guy in the first video is the cook.
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Snowdens Secret posted:I don't remember ever seeing lobster I'm sure if it existed it would be cooked so long it would be as rubbery as a Superball. Also that line in the video "or bring your own recipes" is infuriating. If some rear end in a top hat came into my kitchen and wanted to cook, he'd get kicked in the balls.
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Oxford Comma posted:I'm sure if it existed it would be cooked so long it would be as rubbery as a Superball. My boat had a 'culinary advisory committee' for a bit due to constant food complaints and somehow I ended up on it. The cooks would ask for people's favorite recipes and see if they could be integrated into the menu. This had a variety of problems: - The cooks and supply really have only so much control over what ingredients they get and the suppo guards the money like a frikkin miser. - Similarly their cooking tools and methods are basically 'fry the poo poo out of it', 'bake the poo poo out of it' and 'boil the poo poo out of it' so if your dish needs extra steps or other complications, welp - When your mama makes your favorite dish, she probably bought the ingredients that week, not six months in advance. - Some dudes (particularly the Southern guys) had some delicacies that no one else would touch with a ten foot pole. The only one that got integrated was okra, and it was a disgusting disaster. - In general the cooks really wanted to try but had essentially no training and no real sense of taste. I have no idea where the whole 'Parisian chef enlisted to be a sub cook' nonsense comes from. What really pissed me off about the whole thing was guys complaining too many meals were chicken breast + some topping / sauce. No, it's not exciting, but it's also fairly hard to gently caress up day in/day out and you're generally not picking bones out of your teeth or making GBS threads explosively the entire watch.
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Thing that irritated me was that they added bread into the ground beef for sliders.
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ded posted:Thing that irritated me was that they added bread into the ground beef for sliders. That's...that's how you make meatloaf. 
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We just had bubba burgers. Straight from the freezer and impossible to gently caress up.
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Can anyone comment on what the differences are from the crew's perspective between the LA, Seawolf, and Virginia class submarines? I don't mean secret maximum dive depth poo poo, I mean like stories that get passed around among the people who serve on them. Do people have a favorite? Since there's only three Seawolfs, and one of them is the souped up Jimmy Carter, do people even have that much experience on them?
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So just got back from a 10 day underway on a carrier. Oh my loving god. I don't know why they even call it "service" at this point. I was standing in front of a roast beast carving station on Sunday for "Sunday Brunch", just staring (maybe crying. a little), and I must have had 6 surface jackasses ask if I was "OK". Am I ok? I'm STARING AT REAL MEAT. AND I'M AT SEA. If the navy was actually like this all the time, I'd sure as poo poo stay in. I mean, holy hell, it was actually...humane. They had a motherfucking STORE. On a SHIP. What kind of horseshit is that, huh? What happened to the good old days of having to blow someone because you forgot soap for deployment?
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Lewd Mangabey posted:Can anyone comment on what the differences are from the crew's perspective between the LA, Seawolf, and Virginia class submarines? I don't mean secret maximum dive depth poo poo, I mean like stories that get passed around among the people who serve on them. Do people have a favorite? Since there's only three Seawolfs, and one of them is the souped up Jimmy Carter, do people even have that much experience on them? It seems to me that living space quality has gone down, but again, that's from hearsay (LA class only, myself). I've heard the bunks on the Seawolf are more coffinlike (less curtain space) and that the Virginia just has racks pressed between hot-rear end computers.
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Sacrilage posted:So just got back from a 10 day underway on a carrier. Uh it's only like hth at for nobles dog, try going down to aft galley to wilted lettuce and a chicken patty
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Welcome to the surface navy, brah. It's not near as good on small decks but is still nice.
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Beria posted:Uh it's only like hth at for nobles dog, try going down to aft galley to wilted lettuce and a chicken patty CHICKEN WHEELS
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