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Walliard posted:Catholic and Orthodox both get +1 tolerance of the true faith and the other Christians do not. What does this mean, that they're more tolerant of themselves? If lack of tolerance translates into higher revolt risk, does this mean they have lower revolt risk? But if the province and the ruler are of the same religion, there wouldn't be any reason for religious revolt in the first place...
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So I've been attempting to play the demo and I can't seem to click and drag my mouse cursor. If I so much as click while my mouse is moving the game freezes for a bit and I cannot move the map or change the zoom until I enter and leave the main menu. Is this just a demo bug?
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:What does this mean, that they're more tolerant of themselves? If lack of tolerance translates into higher revolt risk, does this mean they have lower revolt risk? But if the province and the ruler are of the same religion, there wouldn't be any reason for religious revolt in the first place... Yeah, it's just an additional -1 revolt risk for all provinces of the true faith. It's poorly named.
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Azzanadra posted:So I've been attempting to play the demo and I can't seem to click and drag my mouse cursor. If I so much as click while my mouse is moving the game freezes for a bit and I cannot move the map or change the zoom until I enter and leave the main menu. Is this just a demo bug? I've been having the same problem, but I've seen a report of it on the official forums so hopefully it'll get fixed.
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Aug 10, 2013 22:34
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My alt-tabbed PLC game crashed overnight.  Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:This exact same thing happened in EU3 as well. Swahili got lots of monthly income from its gold mines, very quickly ran out of things to spend it on, and accrued massive treasuries ripe for the taking. Players often kept Swahili alive just to declare war on them every 5 years for another free 5000 ducats (or whatever the max amount of money you could demand was). Glad to see that same tradition will carry on in EU4. LordPants posted:Is there a situation where you wouldn't want to colonize as soon as possible? Guildencrantz posted:Plus, fleet access doesn't extend colonization range. Guildencrantz posted:Oh man, the PLC can't be turned into a Noble Republic
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Aug 10, 2013 22:40
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And neither that nor traditional monarchy really reflects the elective weirdness that went on at the time. This is, of course, stereotypical Eastern European nationalism on my part, but I'm already digging around to see if some unique form of government can be modded in. The Dutch get one, after all!
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Wolfgang Pauli posted:Don't go for lovely provinces, which is anything under 4. Get fleet access from Portugal and bootstrap your way to Virginia and Cuba and South Africa ASAP. I think fleet access extending colonization range might be the first thing to be nerfed in a patch. It's so loving broken so long as Portugal exists. Then again, it might be interesting to see if the AI knows how to exploit it. Ragusa riding to the New World on Portugal's back and all. Okay, wow, I was wrong. That's pretty dumb and definitely needs to be nerfed. Why the gently caress would you be able to launch a colonial effort out of somebody else's port? It pretty much negates the entire point of colonial range. The AI probably can't exploit it, so I'll definitely avoid using it until it's removed.
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Guildencrantz posted:Okay, wow, I was wrong. That's pretty dumb and definitely needs to be nerfed. Why the gently caress would you be able to launch a colonial effort out of somebody else's port? It pretty much negates the entire point of colonial range. It's supposed to be balanced by you paying a small fee for basing rights, multiplied by how many coastal provinces the rights-giver has, but that doesn't make up for the silliness of getting naval access from the Maya to colonise the Americas. Of course, now you can conquer native provinces and core them in no time flat and colonise from there, I guess you don't need to bother.
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Aug 10, 2013 23:07
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I think in Quill18's England video, he tried to get fleet basing rights from Norway to extend his colonization range, but it didn't work. I wonder why they changed that? Of course, he might've just accidentally gotten normal military access or something instead, because, you know, Quill18.
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Friend Commuter posted:It's supposed to be balanced by you paying a small fee for basing rights, multiplied by how many coastal provinces the rights-giver has, but that doesn't make up for the silliness of getting naval access from the Maya to colonise the Americas. Of course, now you can conquer native provinces and core them in no time flat and colonise from there, I guess you don't need to bother. Maybe if it was just Vassals or Allies it would make more sense. I can see the reasoning, maybe to give non-Atlantic powers colonies without having to arbitrarily conquer Gibraltar or Morocco.
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Aug 10, 2013 23:12
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Is there a way to get your vassals to help you in a war in EUIV? It says I can't ally them because they're subject nations, and I can't find the Call to Arms button anywhere.
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Vassals automatically join any war you are in. You cant call them to arms because they don't have the option of saying no.
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Aug 11, 2013 02:07
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Anybody want my extra copy of Crusader Kings II?
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In non-EUIV stuff. Does the encourage _ Industry national focus do anything? Like, at all? I'm really bad at National Focuses and never know what to do with them.
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Aug 11, 2013 02:58
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Yeah it does exactly what it says. It'll get capitalists to focus more on making those kinds of factories if they can afford it.
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straw man posted:Anybody want my extra copy of Crusader Kings II? I would love to have that if you don't mind. I've only had a chance to try it for a little bit and was unconvinced but I'd like to give it a more thorough try since I really enjoyed ck1. http://steamcommunity.com/id/joshlemagne/ Edit: Thanks a lot straw man! May you never have to assassinate any incompetent heirs 
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PrinceRandom posted:In non-EUIV stuff. Does the encourage _ Industry national focus do anything? Like, at all? I'm really bad at National Focuses and never know what to do with them. In Victoria 2? Use your NFs early on to get your Bureaucrats to 4% in each state to raise your administrative efficiency (increase pop promotion rate and reduces goods needs among other things). After that, raise your Clergymen to 2% to maximize your RPs (4% if you need more literacy). Then after that, I generally just promote Clerks at my industrialized states until they make up 20% of the workforce. Beyond that, if I can't use my NFs for colonization then I don't really know what else is best to do with them. Edit: I suppose it may be better to promote clergy before bureaucrats just to get the RP increase asap, just because getting to top bureaucrat efficiency might take a while. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Aug 11, 2013 |
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Joshlemagne posted:Edit: Thanks a lot straw man! May you never have to assassinate any incompetent heirs poo poo man that's nearly as bad as "It can't get any worse".
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:In Victoria 2? Use your NFs early on to get your Bureaucrats to 4% in each state to raise your administrative efficiency (increase pop promotion rate and reduces goods needs among other things). After that, raise your Clergymen to 2% to maximize your RPs (4% if you need more literacy). Then after that, I generally just promote Clerks at my industrialized states until they make up 20% of the workforce. Beyond that, if I can't use my NFs for colonization then I don't really know what else is best to do with them. I'm fond of using them to promote craftsmen & clerks in the mid-late game (you can set focuses from the production screen, which is helpful). Promoting soldiers in your more populous provinces (up to 4-5%, unless you're China) is also pretty useful.
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Westminster System posted:Where-as staying catholic basically gives you nothing worthwhile. Except the Curia, I guess. Catholics effectively get a diplomacy bonus with a number of large countries. The only large country you can count on going protestant is Sweden and theyre the worst ally you can imagine and will drag you into the awful Russian and naval wars while also being unreliable in performance.
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Do we seriously not have a dedicated EU4 thread yet? I'm pretty sure we are going to need one.
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Yes, only because all the Vicky 2 chat, and all the East-West hilarity is going to get lost in a sea of "this game is amazing"* * I hope. Also, pre-ordered. Take my money Paradox, take it.
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A separate EU4 thread might be nice but I suspect eventually we'll just move back here anyways. I hope it's really successful but I don't really foresee it being as big as CK2 is.
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Yeah, I'm not sure about breaking off an EU4 topic if only because that leaves this thread kind of adrift other than "Have you heard the latest about East vs West? You're not going to believe this one, guys..."
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Aug 11, 2013 05:36
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We could always talk about Victoria. I love me some victoria.
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Aug 11, 2013 05:39
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This thread will survive, the same way it survived before EU4 started dominating everything. Also: 4% bureaucrats? That seems incredibly excessive, even beyond what is possible now that they've set limits on how many pops you can focus into a profession, iirc.
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Epinephrine posted:This thread will survive, the same way it survived before EU4 started dominating everything. I think 4% is the highest number you'll ever need, but only after you've passed a bunch of social reforms. Earlier on, it'll be closer to 2%.
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Aug 11, 2013 06:09
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I forgot the number, I thought it was 4 for some reason but maybe it's not.
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1% Bureaucrats will do the trick if you have 0 social reforms. Once you get the whole slate, you will, indeed, need 3-4% Bureaucrats.
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Hey all, Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place. I pre-ordered EU4 on steam and it said I would receive a free copy of CK2. I am not seeing either game on my games list, and though steam says I purchased EU4 ，it says I haven't purchased CK2 yet. I'm confused on how this system works, I've searched but haven't found an answer on steam, wondering if anyone else has had this problem. Thanks!
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I'm pro-EU4 thread, especially if someone's willing to maintain the OP post-release, consolidating all the important tips we figure out/questions that get asked every page in one place. Plus mod links, DLC info, I think there's plenty to justify it. I'm about to preorder but this thread's going to be close to unreadable for anyone who hasn't for a month or so, and that's a shame. Marathoned half a V2 game today as Persia. Still not a GP; probably was too slow on Westernizing and improving literacy, but industrialization has gone pretty well. Made friends with the UK and Russians, mostly avoided the Ottomans after a dumb mistake cost me an early containment war. Just stole Sinai from Egypt, who somehow wasn't allied or sphered yet -- they had a few friendly GPs but I'm well-liked and they were all involved in a proto-Great War so nobody bothered to help. I assume someone will take an interest in that soon though, which is OK since this has been a pretty uneventful game so far.
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DaiJiaTeng posted:Hey all,
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A Violence Gang posted:I'm pro-EU4 thread, especially if someone's willing to maintain the OP post-release, consolidating all the important tips we figure out/questions that get asked every page in one place. Plus mod links, DLC info, I think there's plenty to justify it. I'm about to preorder but this thread's going to be close to unreadable for anyone who hasn't for a month or so, and that's a shame. Yeah, I think there should be a EU4 thread as long as someone else does all the work.
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Walliard posted:Hover over your username and click "Inventory" in the menu that pops up. It should be under Gifts, where you can select it and choose "Add to my game library". Thanks for the reply. I am actually an idiot. I didn't notice steam was offline, which caused my game list to not update.
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I'll do it if someone else makes the banners.  (No seriously, someone make EU4 banners I'm poo poo at that, and I'll do it.) Orv fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Aug 11, 2013 |
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Anyone ever have trouble with filthy bureaucrats drowning out the other PoPs at later dates? I need to keep funding up so crime doesn't go through the roof, but I end up with millions more bureaucrats than I need, getting fat off of tax dollars and living the high life.
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DaiJiaTeng posted:Thanks for the reply. Don't feel bad, it took me a few minutes to remember mine was in offline mode when I couldn't download the demo.
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Patter Song posted:1% Bureaucrats will do the trick if you have 0 social reforms. Once you get the whole slate, you will, indeed, need 3-4% Bureaucrats. To be precise, its 1.0% Bureaucrats nationally with no social reforms, and 0.2% more Bureaucrats per social reform.
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