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the only acceptable username in that game should be tit-rear end andronicunt
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Aug 11, 2013 22:26
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Hashtag Nascar posted:lol, must be a pua we're using "garbage man" now fyi
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Aug 11, 2013 23:21
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help me build a free to play mmorpg in starcraft II (game client required to be purchased through blizzard as the free version wont let you play on the arcade as far as Im aware)
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Aug 12, 2013 14:20
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if that's actually possible just through the starcraft editor that's kinda rad
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Aug 12, 2013 14:25
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Yodzilla posted:if that's actually possible just through the starcraft editor that's kinda rad why would you play a clunky lovely mmo when there are already plenty to choose from
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Aug 12, 2013 14:27
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i didn't say i'd play it i just think it's kinda neat if the editor is that flexible
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Aug 12, 2013 14:30
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i like how grandiose their plan is but their budget is 5,000 you can't find a single programmer willing to code that poo poo and make something decent for 5k so obviously a cut and run kickstart. and what is with all these kick starter knockoffs using the same page elements and headers lol
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Aug 12, 2013 14:32
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or is it yet another case of thinking that coming up with the ideas is the hard part, and programming is just typing those ideas into a computer - i.e. glorified data entry
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Aug 12, 2013 15:00
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meusingacomputer.gif
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Aug 12, 2013 15:02
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Sweevo posted:or is it yet another case of thinking that coming up with the ideas is the hard part, and programming is just typing those ideas into a computer - i.e. glorified data entry this is probably closer to the truth it just seems like such a ridiculous opinion, as if every person alive doesn't have the ability to come up with ideas
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Aug 12, 2013 15:04
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hubris.height posted:this is probably closer to the truth it just seems like such a ridiculous opinion, as if every person alive doesn't have the ability to come up with ideas what if we sold heroin to children boom another billion dollar idea
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Aug 12, 2013 15:05
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Al! posted:what if we sold heroin to children boom another billion dollar idea please fund my smack-starter the rewards are painkillers
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Aug 12, 2013 15:13
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kickstarter is tripping over itself lately to make fan made project of expensive well defended names http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/747939120/starcraft-universe?ref=recently_launched
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Aug 12, 2013 15:22
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penus de milo posted:Someone's been watching Click yeah, i love how breathlessly optimistic and loving of every idea it is, in a way that makes wired look like the loving nuremberg trials
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Aug 12, 2013 15:28
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hubris.height posted:this is probably closer to the truth it just seems like such a ridiculous opinion, as if every person alive doesn't have the ability to come up with ideas http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3246449&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=8#post399726443
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Aug 12, 2013 15:32
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Sweevo posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3246449&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=8#post399726443 To be fair this is pretty much how the games industry works "hey do you want to work in VIDEO GAMES? all you have to do is work longer hours for much much less pay than anybody with an equivalent level of experience in your field"
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Aug 12, 2013 15:38
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yeah, but the person saying that isn't usually a guy with nothing to offer except 500 pages of anime doodles and gun statistics
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Aug 12, 2013 15:43
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as a matter of interest is "game scriptwriter" a job that actually exists? because with a couple of notable exceptions most games have plots and dialogue that makes twilight slashfic look good, so i've always assumed they're just smashed together in a spare ten minutes by the devs between colouring everything brown and working on the jiggle physics
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Aug 12, 2013 15:59
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goddamnedtwisto posted:as a matter of interest is "game scriptwriter" a job that actually exists? because with a couple of notable exceptions most games have plots and dialogue that makes twilight slashfic look good, so i've always assumed they're just smashed together in a spare ten minutes by the devs between colouring everything brown and working on the jiggle physics places that "care" tend to hire genre fiction hacks or children thereof (writing talent is hereditary, you see) otherwise it's whoever draws the short straw in the "idea guy" department
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Aug 12, 2013 16:01
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goddamnedtwisto posted:as a matter of interest is "game scriptwriter" a job that actually exists? because with a couple of notable exceptions most games have plots and dialogue that makes twilight slashfic look good, so i've always assumed they're just smashed together in a spare ten minutes by the devs between colouring everything brown and working on the jiggle physics its a real position, but bioware has a bunch of them and, well, yehhhh i dont know what actual qualifications they care about but they seem to almost always have english degrees but are loving awful writers
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Aug 12, 2013 16:02
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Sweevo posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3246449&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=8#post399726443 i love it when people like this show up
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Aug 12, 2013 16:02
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goddamnedtwisto posted:as a matter of interest is "game scriptwriter" a job that actually exists? because with a couple of notable exceptions most games have plots and dialogue that makes twilight slashfic look good, so i've always assumed they're just smashed together in a spare ten minutes by the devs between colouring everything brown and working on the jiggle physics valve hired some sci-fi writer (who was workign a day job as a legal secretary) named Marc Laidlaw for halflife and Clive Barker's Undying was p. good. so basically no, at best they'll hire some jobber to turn out a few bits of prose or just have a designer or producer do it
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Aug 12, 2013 16:05
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hubris.height posted:and what is with all these kick starter knockoffs using the same page elements and headers lol please crowdfund my new crowdfunding platform startkicker, it's not stealing their concept (and css stylesheets) it's just a fan project
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Aug 12, 2013 16:05
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goddamnedtwisto posted:as a matter of interest is "game scriptwriter" a job that actually exists? because with a couple of notable exceptions most games have plots and dialogue that makes twilight slashfic look good, so i've always assumed they're just smashed together in a spare ten minutes by the devs between colouring everything brown and working on the jiggle physics has anyone else noticed that skyrim dialogue literally sounds like someone reading prose out loud. like, not reading a script but reading dialogue in a book.
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Aug 12, 2013 16:11
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WorkingPeer posted:has anyone else noticed that skyrim dialogue literally sounds like someone reading prose out loud. like, not reading a script but reading dialogue in a book. i have no idea what was up with skyrim's writing but it was pretty fuckin terrible. i mean they even did some completely incomprehensible poo poo like have 8 different voice actors record the exact same line instead of use it as an opportunity to inject more actual life into the world
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Aug 12, 2013 16:14
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for some reason oblivion and both fallouts did that as well, no idea about morrowind i figured it was so they could easily program in the lengths of voice clips and reuse lip syncing animation idk i've never worked with that engine
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Aug 12, 2013 16:22
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Al! posted:why would you play an mmo
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Aug 12, 2013 16:26
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Yodzilla posted:for some reason oblivion and both fallouts did that as well, no idea about morrowind it seems like recording dialog with actual actors would be a lot more expensive than redoing lip sync but who knows
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Aug 12, 2013 16:29
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WorkingPeer posted:has anyone else noticed that skyrim dialogue literally sounds like someone reading prose out loud. like, not reading a script but reading dialogue in a book. i always assumed that was a ~high fantasy universe~ thing, dialogue in fantasy books is always loving terrible and cloth-eared, which is why so many nerds have such terrible prose styles. it's probably a vicious cycle.
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Aug 12, 2013 16:32
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goddamnedtwisto posted:as a matter of interest is "game scriptwriter" a job that actually exists? because with a couple of notable exceptions most games have plots and dialogue that makes twilight slashfic look good, so i've always assumed they're just smashed together in a spare ten minutes by the devs between colouring everything brown and working on the jiggle physics there are game scriptwriter positions, but most of the time they don't go to anyone w/ significant writing experience b/c "writing is easy i can do it give the job to me" also the lead designer is likely an artist or programmer who hasn't written a line in his life, but by god he knows exactly how he wants the characters to act and sound* *like the people from a bad scifi movie nb: this is second-hand from Angry People Who Make Videogames. honked will probably come in and correct me
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Aug 12, 2013 16:32
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coffeetable posted:nb: this is second-hand from Angry People Who Make Videogames.
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Aug 12, 2013 16:43
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Vicas posted:please crowdfund my new crowdfunding platform startkicker, it's not stealing their concept (and css stylesheets) it's just a fan project all_kickstarters.txt
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Aug 12, 2013 16:55
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coffeetable posted:there are game scriptwriter positions, but most of the time they don't go to anyone w/ significant writing experience b/c "writing is easy i can do it give the job to me" serious question, why does no one ever hire ppl with actual proven writing skills for 'james writing'. i dont even expect some big name scifi or fantasy dude, but id take like a tv screenwriter from a semi-competent show or smth over a dumb manchild retard that only knows bidya game stories. is it really that much more expensive.
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Aug 12, 2013 17:56
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grate deceiver posted:serious question, why does no one ever hire ppl with actual proven writing skills for 'james writing'. i dont even expect some big name scifi or fantasy dude, but id take like a tv screenwriter from a semi-competent show or smth over a dumb manchild retard that only knows bidya game stories. is it really that much more expensive. because writing for video games is probably the last writing job youll ever be able to get anything serious will probably dumpster your resume the second they see MASS EFFECT IV
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Aug 12, 2013 17:57
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it's also because writing always has to take a backseat to gameplay so even a really good writer would still be at the whim of the head dev with a "vision" for the story so even if you write something competent it can only come to fruition if all those sections you wrote for are really in the game
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Aug 12, 2013 18:00
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:because writing for video games is probably the last writing job youll ever be able to get i dont think if it would be that hard to find some aspiring writer desperate for some extra moneys. idk, even if they had to work around some dumb higherups stupid ideas, it still wouldve been at least competent maybe?
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Aug 12, 2013 18:20
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software development and cohesive narrative are kind of at odds with each other, like if 2 months from release it's like "oh poo poo we have to cut this level because we can't get it to run acceptably on a PS3" and the writer would have to re-write like the whole game
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Aug 12, 2013 18:25
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qirex posted:software development and cohesive narrative are kind of at odds with each other, like if 2 months from release it's like "oh poo poo we have to cut this level because we can't get it to run acceptably on a PS3" and the writer would have to re-write like the whole game this happens in actual writing more often than you'd think "i can't make this loving scene work, i'm going to scrap it and do everything it needed to do in some other chapters" etc but the main reason that you don't see good writing in vidyagames is because they sell anyway, so there's no reason to hire actual writers (unless you're Valve or something)
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Aug 12, 2013 20:28
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Heresiarch posted:but the main reason that you don't see good writing in vidyagames is because they sell anyway, so there's no reason to hire actual writers (unless you're Valve or something) well, also, the biggest sellers tend to not even have meaningful plots to begin with. madden literally has no plot and cod's plots appear to be generated by sticking a guy in a room and forcing him to watch 12 tom clancy movies in a row and then spit out the first thing he comes up with (also nobody cares about single player) i can't name a single game in the last decade where the plot was the main reason to play it to be honest
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