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TL posted:Playing this for the first time on my Wii U, and I'm loving the hell out of it. Quick question though: when does Jeff stop sucking? I just beat Belch in Saturn Valley, and up until now, Jeff is pretty much useless. His physical attack sucks compared to Ness, and he has no PSI abilities as of yet. Repeat this pattern every time you see one of those guys.
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As Jeff's IQ rises, he can repair broken items that are in his inventory when you sleep at night. They become tools he can use to solidify enemies, drain HP, destroy shields, things like that. His power is in his utility, not strength. Problem is, those items take inventory space. The guide has a list of what becomes what at what IQ, so check into it and give them a try.
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Aug 12, 2013 07:23
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Hmm... I must of been overleveled for the majority of the game. After getting a few levels on him after he joined the party, i've never had an issue with Jeff. He does almost as much physical damage as Ness, is faster, and if attacking isn't doing anything for him, he has 6 or 7 inventions in his inventory that are no doubt helpful in battle.
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Aug 12, 2013 07:24
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Also, the broken bazooka will literally replace his physical attack forever once you fix it, which I think is 55 IQ? It's kind of lategame but it's worth keeping an eye on. e: it was Scaraba for me, so not SUPER late... VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV DACK FAYDEN fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Aug 12, 2013 |
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Aug 12, 2013 07:26
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Also, the broken bazooka will literally replace his physical attack forever once you fix it, which I think is 55 IQ? It's kind of lategame but it's worth keeping an eye on. It's not super late. Jeff has been my MVP this playthrough, whereas I used to rely on Ness before I understood things better. Keep broken items in his inventory, buy bottle rockets when you can afford them, and you'll fall in love soon.
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Aug 12, 2013 07:41
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It's no news to anyone that Bottle Rockets are the strongest weapon in the entire game, but most of Jeff's utility items are definitely the poo poo when they finally get fixed.
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Aug 12, 2013 08:34
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TheRationalRedditor posted:It's no news to anyone that Bottle Rockets are the strongest weapon in the entire game, but most of Jeff's utility items are definitely the poo poo when they finally get fixed. Hungry HP sucker, anyone? He's like James Bond without the sex. Or maybe he needs hotels to repair items because... EDIT: The Sword of Kings is a stupid item. That said, I'm sure you get more green swirls from attacking Starmen head on than from behind, at least here in Stonehenge. Die Sexmonster! fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Aug 12, 2013 |
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Aug 12, 2013 08:39
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Hungry HP sucker, anyone? He's like James Bond without the sex. Or maybe he needs hotels to repair items because... Yeah, it seems like despite what their sprite says they're always facing toward the top of the screen. When I bump them from the bottom it's green swirl o'clock.
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Aug 12, 2013 14:35
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I want to share my appreciation for the Mad Ducks, who do nothing but silence you and drain your PP, yet they're all over that little mini dungeon Jeff goes through by himself. The Mad Duck made something spin around! 
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Aug 12, 2013 17:55
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DarkHamsterlord posted:I want to share my appreciation for the Mad Ducks, who do nothing but silence you and drain your PP, yet they're all over that little mini dungeon Jeff goes through by himself. I actually got poked in the eye by one last night for 8 damage with Jeff, so they potentially do damage...
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Aug 12, 2013 18:18
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Poor Poo. He is a really cool character with a neat back story and cool specific items, but near the end game he just gets ruined by status effects and things like that. I feel like his items should each have a similar effect as the star pendant does, so that when he is fully decked out with his sword etc, he is immune to most status effects. Sword = Franklin Badge Bracer = immune to basic status effect Crown = immune to instant KO effects Cloak = immune to PSI effects (Flash, Fire, Freeze)
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Aug 12, 2013 18:25
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ETB posted:I actually got poked in the eye by one last night for 8 damage with Jeff, so they potentially do damage... It's too bad they didn't do something like "The Mad Duck pecked out your eyes! ...But Jeff's glasses protected them."
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Aug 12, 2013 18:25
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tliil posted:Putting intentionally lovely weapons into the game is one of the worst things EB does. I hate that "hahaha, read the manual suckers!" poo poo that old RPGs pulled. Yes, I too hate reading the manual.
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Aug 12, 2013 18:31
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If only there was a RPG where all you had to do was hold forward & press X a lot
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Aug 12, 2013 18:35
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Genocyber posted:Yes, I too hate reading the manual. There are a number of circumstances where a person wouldn't have access to the manual. I recently replayed this game, and I didn't realize how awesome the Earth Pendant from Magicant is. I went ahead and bought three of those fuckers just so everyone could get one.
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Aug 12, 2013 18:36
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triplexpac posted:If only there was a RPG where all you had to do was hold forward & press X a lot Final Fantasy XIII
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Aug 12, 2013 19:49
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Donkringel posted:Alright, so confusion here. I updated my wii and hooked it up to the internet but i cannot find earthbound on the virtual console. Am I missing something here or did Nintendo backpedal? You're missing a WAD to install on your Wii. Check this video and read the description. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxujjaUA4_M Head over to the Wiibrew thread and read around if none of this makes sense. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3075676 That's the only way you're getting it for the virtual console on your system. Consider emulators since there's a good SNES emu on the Wii, or getting an entire Wii U for it since that's not much more expensive than buying an SNES and Earthbound cart. Getting a Wii U for Earthbound is the best thing you can do and the only way of giving Nintendo your money for the game short of time travel. When Nintendo introduces PC browser based account access and purchases I'm gonna buy it through there and never play it because I want to give em my money for Earthbound but hell if I'm getting a Wii U for Earthbound. I was a Sega kid and I didn't know what Earthbound was until Smash Bros. Melee and by then emulators were my only practical way of experiencing it. Bean posted:What is wrong with that retroquest link? I've tried it in different browsers on different machines at different times of the day and I get a 403 no matter what. http://store.retroquestgames.com/other.html#!/~/product/category=5904008&id=26682452 Maybe start at the top and navigate down? It's in the Other section. http://store.retroquestgames.com/
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Aug 12, 2013 20:11
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Can someone explain this to me? I've been trying to figure it out for 15 years, and I still don't get what the joke is supposed to be.  
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Aug 12, 2013 23:05
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Cyrix311 posted:Can someone explain this to me? I've been trying to figure it out for 15 years, and I still don't get what the joke is supposed to be. The joke is that there's no joke.  Alternately, the joke is that he messed up telling a riddle which goes: "If there's five apples on a table and you take away one, how many do you have?" Answer: One.
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Aug 12, 2013 23:17
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Cyrix311 posted:Can someone explain this to me? I've been trying to figure it out for 15 years, and I still don't get what the joke is supposed to be. It's funny in the same way that the joke "Q: what's brown and sticky? A: a stick." is funny. It's completely literal when you're expecting an actual joke.
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Aug 13, 2013 02:42
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Walliard posted:The joke is that there's no joke. I've always heard "If you have five apples and you take two, how many do you have? Five." But I always liked "Pop Quiz! A Beatles song! XXXterday! >yes no"
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Aug 13, 2013 04:05
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Leofish posted:Considering the marketing campaign for the game in North America consisted of "This Game Stinks" I'm not sure they had any idea what to do with it. I seem to recall an ad in Nintendo Power, where I first learned about the game, being full of confessionals of people saying "my friends are in there I can't shut it off" with pleas of "don't buy this game" at the end. It's a Starman, the iconic enemy, staring down at the lead with trippy visuals. That's earthbound in a nutshell.  Unrelated but I was honestly really disappointed that Mother 3 didn't have a Starman fight. I was hoping for something like a random cave having a Starman, Junior or Ghost of Starman. Even if Mother 3 does have a really good story (Not "for a video game" either, in my opinion) but that was a letdown. Starman are one of the first things I associate with the series. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Aug 13, 2013 |
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Aug 13, 2013 09:25
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e: nah, better not
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Genocyber posted:Yes, I too hate reading the manual. triplexpac posted:If only there was a RPG where all you had to do was hold forward & press X a lot
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Aug 13, 2013 10:24
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quote:JEFF TALK  It took me until after I played Mother 3 to realize, "Wait... Jeff is just schoolboy Duster!" I played through Earthbound like twice in college without realizing that Jeff's inventions were actually worth a drat. Then I played Mother 3, and found out that Earthbound makes their gadgeteer-type items actually useful I really need to go back and wreck some faces with Jeffware.
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HarveyVdarski posted:Personally, I never understood how this was the story of a "war" against loving anybody. I kept expecting the story to get serious business but it feels far too episodic for that. Combined with the title screen, I always felt that subtitle was meant to evoke 1950s sci-fi movies and their advertising more than to represent the actual content of the game.
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deadly_pudding posted:I played through Earthbound like twice in college without realizing that Jeff's inventions were actually worth a drat. Then I played Mother 3, and found out that Earthbound makes their gadgeteer-type items actually useful The bazooka owns a bunch, but you get that like two thirds/three quarters though the game (5th sanctuary? anyway the sanctuaries start coming in fast with little in-between at that point). The Defense Shower is even later, pretty near the end of the game. It's basically a re-useable Defense Up Omega, which was never worth a Paula turn to cast (it's worth a Jeff turn, though!)
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Aug 13, 2013 15:01
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McNally posted:
triplexpac posted:If only there was a RPG where all you had to do was hold forward & press X a lot  You don't have time to press X, keep holding forward.
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Aug 13, 2013 15:40
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My latest playthrough has yielded me an insane Jeff: fast, hits as hard as Ness, and IQ gains almost every level. This will make my no bottle rocket run easier.
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Aug 13, 2013 16:14
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I've never thought of doing a no bottle rocket run before... sounds interesting. And hard! I can't imagine getting through the Fourside mall, ugh
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Aug 13, 2013 16:43
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triplexpac posted:I've never thought of doing a no bottle rocket run before... sounds interesting. And hard! I can't imagine getting through the Fourside mall, ugh I might be changing my tune when I get there... 
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Aug 13, 2013 16:57
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I never used bottle rockets on my first run  My kid mind thought "Man, there's no way these are useful" so I never used them and just sold them all 
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Aug 13, 2013 17:23
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I am right near the end. It turned out I got near the end without doing the second sound melody. Totally forgot about it. I think I finished Happy Happy Village, got the girl and just left. I felt so dumb one shotting a boss.
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ETB posted:I might be changing my tune when I get there... It's too late, you've posted it. See it through to the end  I just go to Fourside in my playthrough. I thought I'd take a trip exploring Dusty Dunes Desert this time since I've learned that Healing Alpha cures sunstroke, and I found a sign saying that some guy lost his his contacts and that he'd give anyone who finds them something good. The contacts were right next to the sign. 
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Aug 13, 2013 17:28
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:I am right near the end. The first time I played through the game back in 95 I did this same thing but with the 3rd melody. I had finished Fourside by the time I realized it. I think I had trouble with the plants/mushrooms in the caves leading up to the 3rd melody spot, went to grind some, then went on vacation with my family and forgot what I was doing when I got back. Those were the days man.
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Aug 13, 2013 17:32
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Rhinoceraptor posted:It's too late, you've posted it. See it through to the end Try to find the black sesame seed and his friend the white sesame seed, there is no reward for doing so, but there is a mini-story that is kind of cute in an earthbound sort of way. Is there anything like that, besides porky's poo poo, in the Scarab desert? ate shit on live tv fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Aug 13, 2013 |
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Aug 13, 2013 19:03
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I also like talking to the bones
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Powercrazy posted:Try to find the black sesame seed and his friend the white sesame seed, there is no reward for doing so, but there is a mini-story that is kind of cute in an earthbound sort of way. I love that in Mother 3 they're finally reunited.
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Cybershell posted:I love that in Mother 3 they're finally reunited. Hmm. I think I vaguely remember that. They are on display at New Pork City or something like that right?
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jymbojones posted:The first time I played through the game back in 95 I did this same thing but with the 3rd melody. I had finished Fourside by the time I realized it. I think I had trouble with the plants/mushrooms in the caves leading up to the 3rd melody spot, went to grind some, then went on vacation with my family and forgot what I was doing when I got back. At first I thought you were making this up because I had been convinced that getting the 3rd melody was a prerequisite before getting to Fourside, but then I looked it up and it turns out that you only have to defeat Master Belch in order to bring the sunlight back to Threed and clear the tunnels to the Dusty Dune Desert. I feel like I learn something new about this game with each new post in this topic.
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