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field balm
Feb 5, 2012

To follow up on my earlier monitor questions, I ended up getting a pair of PreSonus Eris E5's. They sound great for the price (330 Au). The place I bought them at was nice enough to test em out with some different tracks and a/b with some other speakers.

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Noise Machine
Dec 3, 2005

Today is a good day to save.


What's the general consensus on HelloMusic? They have Reason 7 for DIRT CHEAP but I've heard their shipping is sketchy... Also, why does Propellerhead charge more for the download only version of Reason 7 than the version that has actual packaging?

JohnnySmitch
Oct 20, 2004

Don't touch me there - Noone has that right.

Noise Machine posted:

What's the general consensus on HelloMusic? They have Reason 7 for DIRT CHEAP but I've heard their shipping is sketchy... Also, why does Propellerhead charge more for the download only version of Reason 7 than the version that has actual packaging?

I've bought a few (large) items from Hello Music, and I've had generally really good experiences with them. Their shipping seems to take a couple days longer to get out than the typical Amazon/MF order, but the cost savings usually makes up for it IMO. I've only had one instance where I had to cancel an order with them because the distributor for one of the amps they were selling had delays and it changed my delivery estimate from around a week to like a month+.

Hollis Brownsound
Apr 2, 2009

by Lowtax

Noise Machine posted:

What's the general consensus on HelloMusic? They have Reason 7 for DIRT CHEAP but I've heard their shipping is sketchy... Also, why does Propellerhead charge more for the download only version of Reason 7 than the version that has actual packaging?

I've bought tons of stuff from them and never had terrible problems with their shipping, it can sometimes be on the long side but it's worth it.

Noise Machine
Dec 3, 2005

Today is a good day to save.


Well I wanted the instant gratification, but on my old-new macbook the CD drive is apparently gone AND I need to upgrade to Lion. Welp.

h_double
Jul 27, 2001

Mr. Mallory posted:

Can anyone help me with Cubase Artist 7?

I'm curious if there is a way I can load a VST instrument but then have it switch to a different soundfont from the same VST mid-track instead of creating a separate track and loading another instance of the VST?

For example a violin section changing from legato to pizzicato.


You might be able to just send it a MIDI Program Change message, depending on if the individual plugin understands those messages.

Noise Machine
Dec 3, 2005

Today is a good day to save.


I don't suppose any of you have any experience with a Mackie Blackbird interface under Mountain Lion? I've heard they've had some issues and I don't want it to be rendered into a very expensive paperweight.

Edit: The Mackie site offers drivers for 10.8.0. Apple is offering 10.8.4 for ML. Would these old drivers work with the newer OS?

Noise Machine fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Aug 13, 2013

Dreadwroth
Dec 12, 2009

by R. Guyovich

Noise Machine posted:

Also, why does Propellerhead charge more for the download only version of Reason 7 than the version that has actual packaging?
What version with the packaging? The Propellerheads official store only has the download versions. When I look at Musician's Friend, it's the same price $399 for the full version and $129 for the upgrade. I don't think they make a non-download version any more.

EDIT: I think Reason 7 is my favorite piece of software ever, it's so drat good and I just kicked the tires so to speak.

Noise Machine
Dec 3, 2005

Today is a good day to save.


Dreadwroth posted:

What version with the packaging? The Propellerheads official store only has the download versions. When I look at Musician's Friend, it's the same price $399 for the full version and $129 for the upgrade. I don't think they make a non-download version any more.

EDIT: I think Reason 7 is my favorite piece of software ever, it's so drat good and I just kicked the tires so to speak.

I could have swore they offered a $400 shipped package version. Maybe the phased it out within the last few days :tinfoil:

I'm sitting here on my 4th or 5th hour of waiting to download Mountain Lion so I can at least open up my projects with it.

Edit: Upgraded, seems to like Mountain Lion! Buuuuut my CD drive is hosed. Now I just need to download Reason and put in the registration and I'll be happy.

Noise Machine fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Aug 14, 2013

Facepalm Ranger
Jan 17, 2012

SOME PEOPLE FIND HOME APPLIANCES SEXUALLY AROUSING! ZORDS ARE NOT APPLIANCES, DAMMIT!
I'm using a Focusrite input box with two XLR inputs and Ableton Live 8 to record. When I try to record unless I set the sound to mono in Ableton the input records the separate XLR as left and right audio output, If I try to record a riff on the right and then on the left it just overwrites it in Ableton.

How should I be recording audio with this thing? Should I have some kind of XLR cable with a splitter at the end for two XLR inputs?

h_double
Jul 27, 2001

Facepalm Ranger posted:

I'm using a Focusrite input box with two XLR inputs and Ableton Live 8 to record. When I try to record unless I set the sound to mono in Ableton the input records the separate XLR as left and right audio output, If I try to record a riff on the right and then on the left it just overwrites it in Ableton.

How should I be recording audio with this thing? Should I have some kind of XLR cable with a splitter at the end for two XLR inputs?

XLR inputs are mono, they typically do not carry a stereo signal. You don't want or need any kind of splitter cable.

You probably want to go to Preferences -> Audio -> Input Config, and set up your inputs something like:



That way, when you are setting up the track to record, you set the "Audio From" (Input Type) box to "Ext. In", and the Input Channel box beneath that to "1" or "2" (if it says "1 / 2", that means it's trying to record from both inputs as a stereo pair. If you DO want to record as a stereo pair, set the inputs as stereo)

Facepalm Ranger
Jan 17, 2012

SOME PEOPLE FIND HOME APPLIANCES SEXUALLY AROUSING! ZORDS ARE NOT APPLIANCES, DAMMIT!

h_double posted:

XLR inputs are mono, they typically do not carry a stereo signal. You don't want or need any kind of splitter cable.

You probably want to go to Preferences -> Audio -> Input Config, and set up your inputs something like:



That way, when you are setting up the track to record, you set the "Audio From" (Input Type) box to "Ext. In", and the Input Channel box beneath that to "1" or "2" (if it says "1 / 2", that means it's trying to record from both inputs as a stereo pair. If you DO want to record as a stereo pair, set the inputs as stereo)

what are the benefits of recording mono compared to stereo? Thanks for the speedy reply!

Dreadwroth
Dec 12, 2009

by R. Guyovich

Noise Machine posted:

I could have swore they offered a $400 shipped package version. Maybe the phased it out within the last few days :tinfoil:

I'm sitting here on my 4th or 5th hour of waiting to download Mountain Lion so I can at least open up my projects with it.

Edit: Upgraded, seems to like Mountain Lion! Buuuuut my CD drive is hosed. Now I just need to download Reason and put in the registration and I'll be happy.
Oh they did? Huh, when I went to upgrade I only saw the digital download ones. I'd reccomend watching the amazing tutorial videos, they cover a lot of cool stuff. I've been using Reason since 1.0 and I still learned some neat new things by watching them.

Ok here is an actual question about something I've been curious about for a while.
How do you go about mixing a track for surround sound? Presuming I'm working with a DAW+12 channel mixer and doing pure digital synthesis.

Dreadwroth fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Aug 14, 2013

h_double
Jul 27, 2001

Facepalm Ranger posted:

what are the benefits of recording mono compared to stereo? Thanks for the speedy reply!

If you have a mono source (like a single microphone, or a guitar) you should record them as mono (that is, set up the input as mono) because otherwise you'll just use 2x the disk space with no benefit. If you have a stereo source (like a matched pair of mics), then it makes sense to record in stereo.

Sometimes in the process of mixing, you'll want to narrow a stereo track down to mono so it takes up less space in a busy mix. You can also use effects like chorus and delay to make a mono source sound wider and more stereo-like. But for the actual recording, it's pretty straightforward; configure the inputs as mono if you're recording from a single channel (single XLR cable or instrument cable).

h_double fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Aug 14, 2013

Noise Machine
Dec 3, 2005

Today is a good day to save.


Dreadwroth posted:

Oh they did? Huh, when I went to upgrade I only saw the digital download ones. I'd reccomend watching the amazing tutorial videos, they cover a lot of cool stuff. I've been using Reason since 1.0 and I still learned some neat new things by watching them.

I've been using Reason since 5, but it was actually a friend's copy he registered to run on his computer and mine with the USB dongle. He asked for it back and I've used it for so many years that I just decided to go legit and buy 7.

Edit: Awwwww yeah this is shiny as gently caress.

Noise Machine fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Aug 15, 2013

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I have a stupid question. I have a Lexicon Alpha and Shure PG57. When I record audio through Sound Recorder in Windows it's nice and clear but in Reaper it can barely pick up anything even if I max out the gain and every slider. Obviously I'd prefer to record with Reaper because, well, Sound Recorder is terrible. But I'm obviously missing something. Reaper is set to use ASIO. Weirdly enough the instrument in is fine in Reaper, just not the audio.

PopZeus
Aug 11, 2010
Question for anyone who knows about MIDI stuff because I don't and it just confuses me: I have a Simmons SD5K electronic drum kit. It has a MIDI out port. I also have Garageband. Should I be able to just plug the kit directly into Garageband (using a MIDI-USB adapter cord)? And by should I, I mean, I am trying and it is recognizing that there is a MIDI device plugged in, but then no hits/notes register at all.

Also, I want to be able to use my drums but the pre-loaded sounds on it aren't great, hence trying to use MIDI. Can you even program the drum sounds that much using Garageband in the first place or should I be looking elsewhere? Brief googling brings up plenty of expensive MIDI audio interfaces that I haven't the faintest idea how they work. Anyone have any experience with working with MIDI and this kit?

strangemusic
Aug 7, 2008

I shield you because I need charge
Is not because I like you or anything!


About MIDI drums: if you can get the triggers working to register hits (a MIDI-USB device like the M-Audio Midisport is decent for this if you don't have MIDI I/O on your interface) it is possible to buy/download just about any sound engine or sample library you desire - (not to advocate :filez:, some are free) Battery, Slate Drums, Addictive Drummer etc etc... Software, rather than hardware, is what you're after. Most of these programs will either run as plugins hosted in your DAW (GarageBand does this, right?) or stand-alone.

If you can't register MIDI inputs but your device is showing up, it could be a channel assignment issue. Check to see that you're sending and receiving on "All" in your MIDI track. Once again I'm not perfectly sure how GB does it, but hopefully that's a place to start poking around.

strangemusic fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Aug 22, 2013

Scarf
Jun 24, 2005

On sight
Anyone have any tips on recreating the Funky Worm/gangsta-whine synth lead in either garageband or Ableton?

h_double
Jul 27, 2001
It's a Minimoog, so using a Minimoog softsynth would be the path of least resistance. I personally use Arturia Minimoog, Diva is very capable, I think Native Instruments has a Moog-alike in the new Kontakt bundle. There are some free Moog emulations out there but I don't know what's good.

Slimchandi
May 13, 2005
That finger on your temple is the barrel of my raygun
If I have an SM58, XLR cable and newish W7 laptop, what's the cheapest way to get multi-track recording going? I need DAW software to record 5-6 layers of instruments to make a backing track, but I will only be recording one each time. What would be a cheap interface?

I've tried a few 'free' DAW packages which have limited me to three tracks or similar crap. Is there a more featured program than Audacity out there?

h_double
Jul 27, 2001

Slimchandi posted:

If I have an SM58, XLR cable and newish W7 laptop, what's the cheapest way to get multi-track recording going? I need DAW software to record 5-6 layers of instruments to make a backing track, but I will only be recording one each time. What would be a cheap interface?

I've tried a few 'free' DAW packages which have limited me to three tracks or similar crap. Is there a more featured program than Audacity out there?

The Focusrite Scarlett interfaces are well-regarded, and cost between $150-300 depending on how much I/O and features you need. The Scarlett 2i2 is the most basic model and may well be plenty for your needs.

As for a DAW, take a look at Reaper. It's not free, but there's a full-featured demo version, and the full program is only $60.

h_double fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Aug 26, 2013

Slimchandi
May 13, 2005
That finger on your temple is the barrel of my raygun
Anyone have any experience with the Focusrite iTrack?

http://www.fairdealmusic.co.uk/focusrite-itrack-solo.html

I guess the only disadvantage is that I couldn't stereo mic a guitar if I wanted to in the future. The difference between that and the 2i2 is only £20, seems worth the additional money for future flexibility.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
Anyone recommend anything on iPad home recording?

Figure I'll get whatever interface I need to plug my guitar or a mic into my iPad and record into GarageBand. Does GarageBand on the iPad do decent amp modeling or is there a way to mutli task with an amp modeler to record into GarageBand?

Any tips in general?


ed



vvvvv


Ah. I searched for iPad but didnt' think to look for iOS. Sorry and thanks!

Zuhzuhzombie!! fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Aug 30, 2013

nrr
Jan 2, 2007

Check out this right here

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3364734

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



Can anyone recommend a good test or benchmark program for monitoring CPU performance that's geared towards audio? I'm running Cubase 7 and I'm having weird CPU loading issues with Kontakt, and I'd like to figure out if it's genuinely a VST performance load problem or not. I've heard of people testing CPU load by just inserting multiple instances of the same VST (I want to say Kramer Tape is a common one), but is there any science to that process?

Ericadia
Oct 31, 2007

Not A Unicorn
I'm hoping this question belongs here: My band has a 16-channel mixer and one of the channels is dead, can we fix it or should we bring it to a pro?

We have an older (as in no USB) 16-channel Peavey mixing board, and at our last gig, channel 3 died. Our rhythm guitarist was (physically) shocked when he accidentally touched his lips to his microphone (which was plugged into channel 3). After that, the channel just stopped working. He had his hands on his guitar strings when it happened, and he uses an ancient ungrounded tube amp, so we think that has something to do with it. We only have one equipment repair shop in town, and they are pro, but are insanely pricey.

XYZAB
Jun 29, 2003

HNNNNNGG!!

Ericadia posted:

I'm hoping this question belongs here: My band has a 16-channel mixer and one of the channels is dead, can we fix it or should we bring it to a pro?

We have an older (as in no USB) 16-channel Peavey mixing board, and at our last gig, channel 3 died. Our rhythm guitarist was (physically) shocked when he accidentally touched his lips to his microphone (which was plugged into channel 3). After that, the channel just stopped working. He had his hands on his guitar strings when it happened, and he uses an ancient ungrounded tube amp, so we think that has something to do with it. We only have one equipment repair shop in town, and they are pro, but are insanely pricey.

Firstly, to avoid ground loops, plug your mixer into the same wall outlet that your guitarist's amp is plugged into, ideally a power conditioner or at least an extension brick if that outlet lacks the number of plugs for whatever audio poo poo you've got going on in that area. Someone can probably explain this better than I can but if the guitar amp is plugged into an outlet across the room from the outlet that the mixer is plugged into, and there's a voltage difference (or current difference, can't remember) between the two, then suddenly your guitarist acts as the bridge between the voltage (current?) differential/gap, he'll get a nasty shock, as it appears he did.

What model Peavey mixer do you have? If it's just one channel that's gone, and it's OLD old, like 1970s/80s/pre-surface mount soldering old, it should be relatively cheap to fix, given the very likely low demand for replacement parts, the ease with which they can be replaced, and assuming that the part is outdated but common enough that it can be had for cheap. If it's all SMD, that's when you might be poo poo out of luck. I would at least ask for a quote, but it sounds like an easy fix... Although I can see a place like that charging you out the rear end to actually troubleshoot what the problem is if it isn't apparent. Good luck.

XYZAB fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Sep 9, 2013

:L
Oct 28, 2004

edit: I guess I was being a dick.

:L fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Sep 19, 2013

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!
Sounds like you should stop wasting your time concerning yourself with this dude and his music.

h_double
Jul 27, 2001
Sample one of his tracks and rap over top of it about donkeys or legos or something. Claim you won a big contest with the track. Rent a limo and a couple of escorts, then show up at his house, light a cigar with a $100 bill and blow smoke in his face and tell him "I guess some people just GET LUCKY."

Hollis Brownsound
Apr 2, 2009

by Lowtax

Splinter posted:

Sounds like you should stop wasting your time concerning yourself with this dude and his music.


h_double posted:

Sample one of his tracks and rap over top of it about donkeys or legos or something. Claim you won a big contest with the track. Rent a limo and a couple of escorts, then show up at his house, light a cigar with a $100 bill and blow smoke in his face and tell him "I guess some people just GET LUCKY."

Either option is really pretty good.

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.

:L posted:

I'm not sure where this question belongs so I chose this thread as it seems to be the closest related to the question at hand.

It's probably not technologically feasible (or maybe it is, I'm dumb) but I'm wondering if there's a website where you can upload a song and it will show how much of it is sampled / how much of it is original. The issue I have on hand is that I have this acquaintance on facebook who is one of those self-proclaimed "musician" and is convinced he will be the next big thing in music. Constant ego masturbation / self-proclaimed genius comments on facebook aside, he continuously links disastrous "songs" that he keeps claiming will be the "next big thing". HOWEVER, on rare occasions, he'll link a song that is leagues better than the usual crap he links, which then understandably gets all sorts of comments like "did you actually make this yourself" to which he says yes.

Now, everyone knows that this guy is full of poo poo and is basically stealing other people's work/songs and calling them his own.. he's been called out / caught once, and it doesn't take a genius to realize that he is most likely doing this more than once. Problem is, this guy is the kind of guy who sits in front of the computer all day looking for obscure music, so it's not immediately recognizable to see / hear where he might have stolen from (the time he did get called out though, was when he stole the entire riff from Get Lucky DURING THE WEEK Daft Punk released R.A.M.. like I said, the guy isn't too bright.)

So, yeah, that's my situation right now. I'm curious if there's any site where I could upload a song of his and it will show how much of it has been sampled or if he really is having random strokes of creative genius.

TL;DR: Looking for a website where you can upload a song and it shows how much has been sampled.

Get hold of an Android phone and try Google's "what's this song?" widget.

Facepalm Ranger
Jan 17, 2012

SOME PEOPLE FIND HOME APPLIANCES SEXUALLY AROUSING! ZORDS ARE NOT APPLIANCES, DAMMIT!
Right, need a wee spot of advice. I use ableton live to record and I want to try recording a cover of Bowie's Ashes to Ashes.

What I want to know is, am I right in thinking this is how I should capture my audio;

Hook a mic with pop screen up to the amp with the guitar and record what I need to record. But record it twice once for left and once for right.

For vocals I record directly from the mic to the input box, and record both left and right?

This is mainly what I'm stuck on. Do I need to record for both audio outputs? Or do I just record whatever I wan to make it sound best to my own opinion. If it helps with the answer, I plan on using analogue guitar with pedals, analog vox from myself and my girlfriend with effects added in music program and other parts will be added via synths and drum machines/samples.

Also when adding base effects to the audio do I add compression and reverb to round out the sound or do I just use compression?

himajinga
Mar 19, 2003

Und wenn du lange in einen Schuh blickst, blickt der Schuh auch in dich hinein.

Facepalm Ranger posted:

Right, need a wee spot of advice. I use ableton live to record and I want to try recording a cover of Bowie's Ashes to Ashes.

What I want to know is, am I right in thinking this is how I should capture my audio;

Hook a mic with pop screen up to the amp with the guitar and record what I need to record. But record it twice once for left and once for right.

For vocals I record directly from the mic to the input box, and record both left and right?
This is mainly what I'm stuck on. Do I need to record for both audio outputs?


If there's only one of each guitar part and one of each vocal part, you only need to record each instrument in mono unless you're going for some kind of weird stereo panning effect. Unpanned tracks recorded in mono should come out of each side at equal power.

Simplified: if you record everything going into the left input onto mono tracks in ableton they should be centered yet pannable. You don't need to record 2 of everything for it to come out of both speakers.

Facepalm Ranger
Jan 17, 2012

SOME PEOPLE FIND HOME APPLIANCES SEXUALLY AROUSING! ZORDS ARE NOT APPLIANCES, DAMMIT!

himajinga posted:

If there's only one of each guitar part and one of each vocal part, you only need to record each instrument in mono unless you're going for some kind of weird stereo panning effect. Unpanned tracks recorded in mono should come out of each side at equal power.

Simplified: if you record everything going into the left input onto mono tracks in ableton they should be centered yet pannable. You don't need to record 2 of everything for it to come out of both speakers.

Nice, thanks man! So record into left side. Got it!

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!
Just make sure you change the Ableton track from stereo to mono. Under the Audio From drop down (below the track's clip slots, above the track's volume meter, probably set to 'Ext In'), there's another drop down that probably says 1/2 and has 2 mini meters. Change that drop down to just 1 or 2 (depending on which input you're using).

Ericadia
Oct 31, 2007

Not A Unicorn

Handen posted:

Firstly, to avoid ground loops, plug your mixer into the same wall outlet that your guitarist's amp is plugged into, ideally a power conditioner or at least an extension brick if that outlet lacks the number of plugs for whatever audio poo poo you've got going on in that area. Someone can probably explain this better than I can but if the guitar amp is plugged into an outlet across the room from the outlet that the mixer is plugged into, and there's a voltage difference (or current difference, can't remember) between the two, then suddenly your guitarist acts as the bridge between the voltage (current?) differential/gap, he'll get a nasty shock, as it appears he did.

What model Peavey mixer do you have? If it's just one channel that's gone, and it's OLD old, like 1970s/80s/pre-surface mount soldering old, it should be relatively cheap to fix, given the very likely low demand for replacement parts, the ease with which they can be replaced, and assuming that the part is outdated but common enough that it can be had for cheap. If it's all SMD, that's when you might be poo poo out of luck. I would at least ask for a quote, but it sounds like an easy fix... Although I can see a place like that charging you out the rear end to actually troubleshoot what the problem is if it isn't apparent. Good luck.

I'm not sure what the model is, I'll check it out next time I'm at our studio.

Thanks for the explanation about the voltage (current?) bridging, ground loops what have you. My guitarist said the shock was huge and he thought he was going to die.

Out of curiosity, how do large venues handle this, where the FOH is far away from the stage where the amplifiers are plugged in? Would having power conditioners on either end solve or minimize this problem?

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Ericadia posted:

Out of curiosity, how do large venues handle this, where the FOH is far away from the stage where the amplifiers are plugged in? Would having power conditioners on either end solve or minimize this problem?

No idea about venues, but singer/gutarists invariably learn the way your friend just did that you NEVER touch the mic while holding a guitar. You just don't, because you never know how lovely a venue's power system is.

It's just a thing you learn to deal with if you're singing and strumming.

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ChristsDickWorship
Dec 7, 2004

Annihilate your demons



A real venue has at least 4 or 5 separate power services. The bar, kitchen HVAC and house lights are on one service, the audio system is on its own service (maybe sharing with video), and the stage lighting is on its own service. You can throw a knife switch on the wall and turn any of those services off without effecting the others. FOH audio, lighting and video each have a run back to their corresponding power service, which are usually located near the stage so yea, several heavily shielded 200-300ft power cables is how FOH is powered.

Venues setup to deal with touring bands that might show up with their own PA, video or lighting gear usually have 2 or 3 more 100Amp-400Amp services so that everything in the venue can stay powered up (even if they aren't using it) and the tour can tie their own bare-ended copper and power distribution systems into them.

If a venue isn't setup like that, there is basically nothing you can do to avoid getting shocked by microphones or safely clean up ground buzzes, period. Power conditioners are just plug strips that maybe have a fuse, unless it weighs about 100lb and says "isolation transformer" (and costs $1200+) you aren't cleaning up bad power. If all the wall outlets go back to one power service and the bar freezers are plugged into it, poo poo will buzz.

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