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slightpirate posted:As I recently started over from the beginning of the show, its a HUGE leap from where Cecil is today. He really is pretty monotonous and flat in the early episodes, but he brings the character to life, and it doesn't take him long to really get the inflections and pacing refined. Keep listening! It's really good and it keeps getting better! Hooray! Maybe my expectations were just "Episodes of 'This American Life' but in R'yleh" levels of casual-narration 
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Astrofig posted:I saw a rather interesting piece of art the other day that had Cecil with white eyes behind sunglasses, and a white-handled cane in easy reach. Because apparently his name means 'blind'. I know its been said his appearance is moot, and I agree, but this is really getting under my skin for some reason. I'd buy him being blind (yet somehow able to perceive 'sight') more that him having a third eye. I also don't really understand the "third-eye" argument, as any breaking news is delivered via reports from citizens or unfortunate interns; any extra insight that he might have I have attributed to Night Vale being a small town and Cecil being very active in the community (thus knowing all the little minutiae). The less "incredible" the character of Cecil is, the better. He is our window into Night Vale, and more we can identify with him, the more personal (and horrific) the story becomes. Giving him superpowers or non-human traits fucks up that relationship, I think. Not that I should really care; as has already been pointed out the fan-fiction community sucks and has no bearing on actual story. Its presence still annoys me, however. SgtScruffy posted:Does the announcer get a bit more loose and free-sounding?
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Isn't the argument about Cecil being blind easily negated by how he rambles on about Carlos' physical appearance? Also, I LOVE the faceless old woman episode. So much so, that I'm thinking of renaming my freeform americana music project "The Melting Point of Birds." Would there be any objection to this? AstroZamboni fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Aug 12, 2013 |
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Aug 12, 2013 17:52
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AstroZamboni posted:With the huge audience this is getting, I really hope this turns the current generation on to the joys of radio theater. This is my hope too. I've been suggesting to Night Vale fans that they should also check out 19 Nocturne Boulevard.
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Aug 12, 2013 18:17
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"Back in R'lyeh, Wgah'nagl of Yours Truly...." - A Non-Euclidean Home Companion
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FalseParadigm posted:The less "incredible" the character of Cecil is, the better. He is our window into Night Vale, and more we can identify with him, the more personal (and horrific) the story becomes. Giving him superpowers or non-human traits fucks up that relationship, I think. Point and counter-point from--surprise!--the Tumblr fanfiction community: quote:Here’s the flip side, at least to me: that role of the Unphased Every(wo)man, while important, is filled by the listener. I don’t need Cecil to be the human in the story because I’m the human in the story (emphasised by the way the narrative directly uses the second person, either collective or singular). Sometimes backed up by Carlos, when the need arises. I fall in the middle on the debate, in that I really don't care, but a man who acts as a window into Night Vale is still a part of Night Vale, with all the weirdness that entails. I mean, I don't particularly identify with him when he's cheerfully reporting the day's deaths, and that's theoretically just the act of a human person warped by the town; why wouldn't I be able to identify with a twelve-limbed omniscient beast cooing over cat videos? Especially on a radio show, it's his behavior more than his appearance that matters.
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Tjadeth posted:why wouldn't I be able to identify with a twelve-limbed omniscient beast cooing over cat videos? Intern Dana forwarded the videos to Station Management? I enjoy this image.
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Tjadeth posted:I don't particularly identify with him when he's cheerfully reporting the day's deaths, and that's theoretically just the act of a human person warped by the town; why wouldn't I be able to identify with a twelve-limbed omniscient beast cooing over cat videos? Especially on a radio show, it's his behavior more than his appearance that matters. You are right, it is ultimately about behavior. Which is precisely why I envision every denizen of Night Vale human (or at least human-like) unless otherwise described. I don't know the personal affections or typical behaviors of the common twelve-limbed omniscient beast, so unless we get better descriptions, Cecil is a bipedal humanoid with human characteristics. Archenteron posted:Intern Dana forwarded the videos to Station Management? I enjoy this image.
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FalseParadigm posted:You have a point. They sound more like twelve-limbed omniscient beasts. Supervising journalists and liberal arts majors and floating cats and interns and all those undesirable types of human beings? You clearly don't know much about the personal affections or typical behaviors of the common twelve-limbed omniscient beast. 
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Just a little update. Spoke with the OP regarding an entirely non-profit, 100% for fun endeavor and as a result will be testing my audio interface at 10 watts in between 3 and 4 MHZ for 30 minutes starting at 8pm CST this evening. Any signal reports would be greatly appreciated. I'm not expecting much at 10 watts, but I really don't want to melt the finals in my rig. I'll be testing two antennas in 15 minute intervals. One vertical from 8 to 815 and a horizontal that's aimed east/west from 815 to 830. Thanks. Edit: Been trying to figure out what to test with, be on the lookout for Feynman's lectures on physics. Edit2: live, just below 80m band. iostream.h fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Aug 13, 2013 |
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poo poo, I'd listen in for you, but I don't have my shortwave handy at the moment. If you run another test later tonight (say around midnight CDT), I can try and pick you up.
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Astrofig posted:I saw a rather interesting piece of art the other day that had Cecil with white eyes behind sunglasses, and a white-handled cane in easy reach. Because apparently his name means 'blind'. Holy poo poo. Everyone in town thinks Carlos looks like hotness in specs, but Cecil thinks he looks even better than THAT (i.e. Perfect and Beautiful (TM)) because his mental image of him isn't held back by such dross as light and geometry. Imagine being Carlos, thinking that Cecil is simply blinded by your looks like everyone else, and then discovering that he's never seen you and never will. AstroZamboni posted:As Douglas Adams said: "Radio is superior to TV because the pictures are better." I am now in love with this theory. For Cecil, life IS a radio show. BiggerJ fucked around with this message at 05:27 on May 3, 2014 |
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Aug 13, 2013 03:10
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Give me a day or two, I had a weird SWR issue about 20 minutes in. Checking antenna and connections tomorrow. Thanks guys!!
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iostream.h posted:Give me a day or two, I had a weird SWR issue about 20 minutes in. Checking antenna and connections tomorrow. Did you hear any unusual staticky noises? The hooded figures may not be pleased.
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Tonight I seem to be overly preoccupied by my hatred for Telly the Barber.
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BiggerJ posted:Did you hear any unusual staticky noises? The hooded figures may not be pleased. I will admit to maybe playing up the ambiance in my little radio cave a bit. It helped the mood that its pretty stormy, too. Thanks very much to the OP for allowing this, I think I know what went wrong and I hope I can get guys working for you guys, it was fun!
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AstroZamboni posted:Tonight I seem to be overly preoccupied by my hatred for Telly the Barber. GOD drat IT TELLY THE BARBER, YOU MONSTER
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FalseParadigm posted:You have a point. They sound more like twelve-limbed omniscient beasts. Also, I drew adorable Khoshekh and some of his cute little kittens!  Edit: Sorry, excuse the gently caress out of me. Here:  How can we possibly know what is considered normal for a cat in Night Vale? His cute little meow is a devil roar, for gently caress sake. Edit 2: Listened to the episodes a few more times. They never loving say that Khoshekh is perfectly normal. Just happy and healthy, despite being trapped in a hovering position. Maybe you don't like my drawing but you don't have to be an rear end in a top hat about it. Action Yak fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Aug 16, 2013 |
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They stress that he is a normal cat with no retarded deformities
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Geirskogul posted:They stress that he is a normal cat with no retarded deformities Says CECIL, our super-reliable narrator.
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dj_clawson posted:Says CECIL, our super-reliable narrator. When is Cecil not reliable? There is, functionally, no story beyond what he says, so assuming that he's lying is silly.
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DoctorWhat posted:When is Cecil not reliable? There is, functionally, no story beyond what he says, so assuming that he's lying is silly. I actually don't want to get into a huge argument here for the sake of it - I like to imagine the cat as a normal cat too - but Cecil doesn't know what the moon is, doesn't know how long trees live, had his mind temporarily taken over by the Glow Cloud, and isn't sure if he spent a decade in Europe or not.
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The only time Cecil has not been reliable is when people send him bad reports, like the Sheriff's secret police sending in the wrong casualty list after pterodactyl-gate or the Sheriff's secret police calling plastic bags  'feral dogs'. Cecil can do no wrong, but the Sheriff's secret police can certa-
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dj_clawson posted:I actually don't want to get into a huge argument here for the sake of it - I like to imagine the cat as a normal cat too - but Cecil doesn't know what the moon is, doesn't know how long trees live, had his mind temporarily taken over by the Glow Cloud, and isn't sure if he spent a decade in Europe or not. OR the not knowing about the moon thing is like that thing no one acknowledges. They know it's there, bad things just happen if they seem to know about the moon then it existing. I could honestly see Night Vale having a cult that kills anyone who knows of the moon beyond the simplest terms. Fantastic Alice fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 13, 2013 |
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dj_clawson posted:I actually don't want to get into a huge argument here for the sake of it - I like to imagine the cat as a normal cat too - but Cecil doesn't know what the moon is, doesn't know how long trees live, had his mind temporarily taken over by the Glow Cloud, and isn't sure if he spent a decade in Europe or not. The world is flat all the way around too.
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Len posted:The world is flat all the way around too. Now, let's not be too hard on Cecil. He did keep an open mind to the ramblings of the mountain apologists. I tend to alternate between normal cat and--well. drat thing sounds like a garbage disposal, but my cat makes weird clicking noises when he sees birds, so who am I to say?
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Hey Maxmona what USB mic do you use? Because I'm looking to pick one up for a podcast I have to do.
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iostream.h posted:Give me a day or two, I had a weird SWR issue about 20 minutes in. Checking antenna and connections tomorrow. I'm not wired into all the HAM/shortwave pirate lingo, but if this happens do me solid and upload it to Youtube so I can hear it with the proper aura I've been missing with digital downloads. 
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I'm up to episode 18 now and I love this podcast, the Twitter feed and the Facebook updates. I'm glad it got so successful - the tone is perfect. I'd like to suggest an artist for the weather - The Handsome Family. Their twisted Americana songs really remind me of Night Vale.
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DeusExMachinima posted:I'm not wired into all the HAM/shortwave pirate lingo, but if this happens do me solid and upload it to Youtube so I can hear it with the proper aura I've been missing with digital downloads. There are online SWL stations incidentally, if I do it it'll just sound normal, I'm sure someone here can square you away tho. I'm going to try and get my best antenna another 60' up into the air by this weekend. I'll test again immediately after!
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maxnmona posted:I will never get over how cool this is. aaaaaa John Darnielle is a chill guy. You should ask him about letting you use one of his songs for the weather, like Birth of Serpents.
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We're going on a six hour road trip tomorrow and I was told to burn all of Night Vale to cd for the trip. Here goes hoping I can addict everyone I know.
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Len posted:We're going on a six hour road trip tomorrow and I was told to burn all of Night Vale to cd for the trip. Here goes hoping I can addict everyone I know. If you're driving be careful because Cecil's smooth, smooth voice can make you pretty drowsy.
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Len posted:We're going on a six hour road trip tomorrow and I was told to burn all of Night Vale to cd for the trip. Here goes hoping I can addict everyone I know. I like that this show has its fans plotting about how they can entrap people to indoctrinate.
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Tjadeth posted:but my cat makes weird clicking noises when he sees birds, so who am I to say? That's them preparing to set their jaw in a way that makes it easier to clamp down hard on prey. Don't worry - your cat is just thinking murderous thoughts.
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The Sheriff's Secret Police is actually a group of particularly enthusiastic WTNV fans. 
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http://www.theawl.com/2013/07/americas-most-popular-podcast-what-the-internet-did-to-welcome-to-night-vale An interesting article about the fandom. I hope it doesn't end up like Homestuck's crazy fans. Between this, Zach Parsons and Slenderman it looks like SA does better horror than comedy.
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DoctorWhat posted:When is Cecil not reliable? There is, functionally, no story beyond what he says, so assuming that he's lying is silly. Do you know what an unreliable narrator is? It's not "person who is definitely proven to be unreliable by someone else," it's just "person you have reason to suspect might not be reliable," which I think Cecil qualifies as, especially since he frequently forgets to mention things and also lives in some sort of hell-desert where nothing is as it seems
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Count Chocula posted:http://www.theawl.com/2013/07/americas-most-popular-podcast-what-the-internet-did-to-welcome-to-night-vale Oh man, I'd wish I had gotten into this fandom earlier.
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