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OK, I just spent...5 hours now reading through the manga after finishing what was available as the anime. Holy poo poo, you guys. I have some vague idea about why and how this is going down, but... Just, holy poo poo. And man, those various images of people being messily devoured are going to *haunt* me tonight.
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This was brought up a while ago, but I wasn't at a computer and SA really needs a phone app or something. Anyway, humanity hiding behind the wall for only a hundred years and yet seemingly forgetting everything except the one book that Armin has is kind of ridiculous. Like Star Wars Episode 3 -> 4 ridiculous. There are millions of people and it is barely two/three generations ago. I don't understand how only the wall cult knows about the Also, contributing to the creation story discussion: While the nobles are painted as bad guys, I just don't see them really being all that important to the story. At least not enough to do something as non-trivial as create the main protagonists. I do see that the author likes to include themes of greed as bad or whatever, but other than that, I don't think the nobles are all that important.
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Aug 13, 2013 08:42
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Shadow0 posted:This was brought up a while ago, but I wasn't at a computer and SA really needs a phone app or something. It has. Two, in fact.
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Aug 13, 2013 08:56
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Three, don't forget plucky little Windows Phone.  I agree with you there on the nobles. So far they seem very secondary in the story. I imagine that Christa's family will get some focus when/if we ever get to that point.
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Aug 13, 2013 09:31
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Shadow0 posted:Anyway, humanity hiding behind the wall for only a hundred years and yet seemingly forgetting everything except the one book that Armin has is kind of ridiculous. Like Star Wars Episode 3 -> 4 ridiculous. There are millions of people and it is barely two/three generations ago. I don't understand how only the wall cult knows about the Knowledge of the outside is actively suppressed making it not something you tell your kids about when they are too young to know when to shut up. Most of our protagonists suffer from eaten parents syndrome so they have every reason to know very little. Now interviewing hundreds of octogenarians might lead to some results though it seems likely that even at the time very few people actually understood what was happening.
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Aug 13, 2013 10:05
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Shadow0 posted:Anyway, humanity hiding behind the wall for only a hundred years and yet seemingly forgetting everything except the one book that Armin has is kind of ridiculous. Like Star Wars Episode 3 -> 4 ridiculous. There are millions of people and it is barely two/three generations ago. I don't understand how only the wall cult knows about the They didn't forget everything, apparently. They have a methane refinery and some fairly advanced metallurgy going on, and that's just what we've seen. The walls were probably put up without many witnesses, because you can't really convince several million people to completely ignore that the only thing between them and titans is more titans. How they herded/convinced the wallbros to do their thing is anyone's guess 
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Aug 13, 2013 10:06
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Broken Knees Club posted:They didn't forget everything, apparently. They have a methane refinery and some fairly advanced metallurgy going on, and that's just what we've seen. The walls were probably put up without many witnesses, because you can't really convince several million people to completely ignore that the only thing between them and titans is more titans. How they herded/convinced the wallbros to do their thing is anyone's guess I seem to recall it being mentioned that the walls were there when the current inhabitants of the city found them...
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Aug 13, 2013 10:13
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LightningKnight posted:I think it's safe to say that anyone who appeared in the "everyone is titans" false preview image is most definitely not a titan. Have you got a link to that image? I've never seen it and I'd like to see bobblehead Armin.
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Aug 13, 2013 10:36
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Darth Walrus posted:I seem to recall it being mentioned that the walls were there when the current inhabitants of the city found them... Only in the bonus secret texts hidden in the manga covers. Also, it may or may not be the truth. I'm going to vote in favor of that it's the truth though. Doflamingo posted:It has. Two, in fact. And so there is! (Thanks)
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Aug 13, 2013 10:39
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Tolth posted:Have you got a link to that image? I've never seen it and I'd like to see bobblehead Armin. It was posted by ProfessorProf earlier: ProfessorProf posted:The latest of Isayama's fake preview splashes:
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Aug 13, 2013 10:48
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Shadow0 posted:This was brought up a while ago, but I wasn't at a computer and SA really needs a phone app or something. Anyway, humanity hiding behind the wall for only a hundred years and yet seemingly forgetting everything except the one book that Armin has is kind of ridiculous. Like Star Wars Episode 3 -> 4 ridiculous. There are millions of people and it is barely two/three generations ago. I don't understand how only the wall cult knows about the I always think about that, is the one thing that bothers me about the plot. 100 years is not enough time for all that seems to have happened: a whole country being erected inside the walls while everyone forgets about history and the outside world and how they got to the walls in the first place.
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Aug 13, 2013 13:26
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Unimportant side comment, but the new Touhou Project game released this weekend has an Attack on Titan reference in it, in the form of a boss attack called Shingeki no Shoujin (Attack on Dwarf). The attack pattern is even shaped sort of like the Three Walls. e: 
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Aug 13, 2013 14:35
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You know, based on how Mikasa-Titan resembles the MMA drawings he does of her on occasion, we could just see humanity wiped out to be replaced by titans doing the good old ground-and-pound inside the three rings. We wouldn't even need to swap to a new series.
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Aug 13, 2013 15:38
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Elias_Maluco posted:I always think about that, is the one thing that bothers me about the plot. Did everyone forget? I always got the impression that the adults just prefer not to talk about it. Remember, we rarely get a POV from someone who isn't basically a child.
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Aug 13, 2013 17:47
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Amarkov posted:Did everyone forget? I always got the impression that the adults just prefer not to talk about it. Remember, we rarely get a POV from someone who isn't basically a child. Yeah, this seems to be the case. I mean, we wouldn't really know much about, say, WW1 (which was also 100 years ago) if we didn't actually have easy access to material put together by historians. And our grandparents aren't exactly eager to talk about the war(s) they've been on (I know that my late grandpa certainly never talked about his time as a soldier on the Pacific front*). *Just as an interesting thing that isn't related to Attack on Titan other than it having to do with Japan, my other grandpa was far more fortunate in WW2; he was sent to Yale to learn Japanese! I took Japanese all four years of high school, and it was neat being able to converse with him in it. He only ever needed to use it once: A month or two after the war ended, a Japanese submarine was lost and ended up surrendering somewhere off the west coast (I forget where; I think off the coast of Washington state?). My grandpa and his fellow translators were sent on board, and he says that they just chatted about food/women/family and that the Japanese on board didn't seem particular upset that the war had ended. This same grandpa read/collected all sorts of sci-fi and fantasy magazines/books and didn't date anyone until meeting and marrying my grandma in his thirties (he wasn't bad looking at all either). Learning Japanese, being into sci-fi/fantasy, and being bad with women - the gooniest grandpa. I miss him. 
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Yeah, I just assumed that it meant that after 100 years they had become complacent. They knew why they were within the walls, and they knew what was waiting for them if they left. But 100 years of "peace" makes you not really think about getting murdered by a titan.
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Aug 13, 2013 18:33
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Ytlaya posted:Yeah, this seems to be the case. Jesus Christ we found patient zero. 
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Narahari posted:You know, based on how Mikasa-Titan resembles the MMA drawings he does of her on occasion, we could just see humanity wiped out to be replaced by titans doing the good old ground-and-pound inside the three rings. We wouldn't even need to swap to a new series. The thing in Eren's basement is a rule book for MMA, salvation of humanity attained.
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Aug 13, 2013 20:56
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Broken Knees Club posted:Jesus Christ we found patient zero. What's this a reference to? vvvv Oh, haha, okay. I can be slow on the uptake sometimes. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Aug 13, 2013 |
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Aug 13, 2013 21:05
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Ytlaya posted:What's this a reference to? medical sciences
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Gally posted:The thing in Eren's basement is a rule book for MMA, salvation of humanity attained.
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I think we're overlooking one possibility: "one-hundred years" might just be what they tell kids, or the official dogma in general. Meanwhile, it could have been far longer. On the other hand, it has been one-hundred years since the great depression, and our society seems to be pathologically determined to recreate it. So I guess that's a good turn-around for people essentially forgetting inconvenient historical facts.
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Aug 14, 2013 03:07
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So um yeah, I spent so much time catching up to the manga now and poo poo's gotten super nuts. What the hell is with Sasquatch Titan? How is Isamiya going to handle Reiner and Bertholdt's backstories? What the gently caress was up with Eren's jaw just splitting in two back in the forest when he fought Annie? I don't think that scene was conveyed very well. I have so many questions and I'm so loving hooked, please help me overcome my addiction, Attack on Titan manga thread.
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Aug 14, 2013 03:41
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One of us! One of us! I wonder how this whole thing is gonna go down once the current situation is all over, in regards to the Titan faction. I can't really see any other previously established character being a secret titan anymore. At least, one who knows about their titan-ness or is associated with Bert and Ernie (MAYBE Erwin, at a stretch, but he's pulling some real loving long-con poo poo if so). The story sort of loses that Battlestar Galactica "Who are Cylons?" thing from now on unless we get a lot of new characters introduced. I wonder if it'll become a more straightforward war between humanity and the other titans for a while to let those potential new characters settle in, or whether Erwin is gonna start a full on rebellion. it all hinges on what we learn of the wall cult and if the gang find the basement in the more immediate future, I suppose. Rohan Kishibe fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Aug 14, 2013 |
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Aug 14, 2013 03:43
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Sex_Ferguson posted:What the gently caress was up with Eren's jaw just splitting in two back in the forest when he fought Annie? If you're talking about the scene where the tree snaps in half and he suddenly loses his head, it was Annie striking him with one of her super strong kicks. If you look at the page after you can kind of tell what Annie did judging from her pose. I have a feeling the mangaka omitted the actual drawing with the kick because he didn't want to give us such a large clue to the titan's identity at that point.
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Aug 14, 2013 10:52
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Hodgepodge posted:I think we're overlooking one possibility: "one-hundred years" might just be what they tell kids, or the official dogma in general. Meanwhile, it could have been far longer. We've always been at war with TitAsia for 100 years. I like this idea.
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Aug 14, 2013 11:56
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Hodgepodge posted:I think we're overlooking one possibility: "one-hundred years" might just be what they tell kids, or the official dogma in general. Meanwhile, it could have been far longer. I like this theory, makes everything a lot more reasonable and interesting. I hope is true.
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Aug 14, 2013 13:55
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Elias_Maluco posted:I like this theory, makes everything a lot more reasonable and interesting. Wouldn't this fall apart if an old person would go "Hang on, they told me it was a hundred years, and that was 60 years ago!"?
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Aug 14, 2013 21:27
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ArchangeI posted:Wouldn't this fall apart if an old person would go "Hang on, they told me it was a hundred years, and that was 60 years ago!"? If it's a lie, then it would be in the other direction. Although I don't see any difference between 100 and 1000 years. Any number past 80 means absolutely no (human) first-hand accounts left.
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Aug 14, 2013 22:50
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If Reiner and Bert have their way they not only get Eren, but they bring back years of military training & tactics to pass on and technology to reverse engineer. Their people would be completely prepared with countermeasures for all current human tactics. Also I'm trying to imagine a human-titan society and the practical uses for the powers in day to day life. Lamebot fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Aug 14, 2013 |
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Aug 14, 2013 23:40
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Broken Knees Club posted:If it's a lie, then it would be in the other direction. Although I don't see any difference between 100 and 1000 years. Any number past 80 means absolutely no (human) first-hand accounts left. 100 years ago means you grampa might have heard about it from his grampa. The same cant be said about 1000 years ago. Its quite a big difference.
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Broken Knees Club posted:If it's a lie, then it would be in the other direction. Although I don't see any difference between 100 and 1000 years. Any number past 80 means absolutely no (human) first-hand accounts left. People don't write things down or talk about stuff, got it.
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Elias_Maluco posted:100 years ago means you grampa might have heard about it from his grampa. The same cant be said about 1000 years ago. There's fairly little effective difference, though. A hundred years can distort history beyond any recognition, especially if you have an authoritarian state going full Stalin on your rear end. Tezcatlipoca posted:People don't write things down or talk about stuff, got it. I'm sure there's samizdat floating around somewhere, but it's quite clear that it's not legal. Talking about it may or may not be kosher, but the Maria culling took care of that pretty drat quick. Also, the Recon Corps is on top of these things and hasn't mentioned anything. Either it's not important, not true, or the state is really, really good at suppressing information.
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It's a military state that created a religion to help suppress knowledge it's safe to say they gave everything pretty well locked down. We don't even know if anybody but the wall cult/inner circle was around for the walls to be built it might have been a case of "Oh hey titans, whelp good thing we have built this convenient titian-proof walled area come on in. Why'd we build it? Oops looks like your paperwork was misfiled you'll have to wait outside the wall until we clear that up."
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This is a society where asking too many questions about this sort of thing is heresy and will result in random people beating the crap out of you. Most of the interaction we've seen outside of the first few issues has been within the scouting legion. You know, the thing designed to draw in all the people who are inclined towards curiosity so they can die without bothering everyone else.
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SirDan3k posted:It's a military state that created a religion to help suppress knowledge it's safe to say they gave everything pretty well locked down. We don't even know if anybody but the wall cult/inner circle was around for the walls to be built it might have been a case of "Oh hey titans, whelp good thing we have built this convenient titian-proof walled area come on in. Why'd we build it? Oops looks like your paperwork was misfiled you'll have to wait outside the wall until we clear that up." This is making me imagine a Titan-themed version of that new game Papers, Please?.
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https://twitter.com/DennysDiner/status/368019461053247488 I wasn't expecting Denny's of all places to tap into that sweet Titan money.
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Level Slide posted:https://twitter.com/DennysDiner/status/368019461053247488
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Level Slide posted:https://twitter.com/DennysDiner/status/368019461053247488 Nor did I, and not just on Twitter, either.
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