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When do I choose my preferred bases? That is a thing right? My recruiter has been about as useful as you guys make military people out to be. Also as soon as I am out boot, I get shipped to a-school right?
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DocImpossible posted:So what I'm getting out of this is that if I do go in, I should expect to be shat upon by any and all COs unless proven otherwise, yeah? It's not the "CO" you have to worry about (although there are plenty of lovely commanders out there), it is the fact that as a brand new airman/sailor/whatever you are outranked by literally everyone. That jackass moron down the street who enlisted a couple years before you? Now outranks you and can tell you what to do. Dumbshit hick from backwoods Alabama with a room temperature IQ and no interpersonal skills who enlisted 7 years ago? Congrats, that's your direct supervisor who controls every aspect of your life, including your time away from work since you live in the dorms. Godholio posted:took naps on the shitter Well now let's not be unreasonable...who among us can say they've never taken a nap on the shitter at work? I feel like shitter naps are one of the last bastions of freedom in today's military.
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Aug 15, 2013 19:54
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I still judge toilets by their napping comfort out of reflex. Hate those auto flush metal-pole-in-your-back types.
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Aug 15, 2013 20:40
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KittyEmpress posted:When do I choose my preferred bases? That is a thing right? My recruiter has been about as useful as you guys make military people out to be. You may, may, get the opportunity to pick preferred bases but chances are they won't give a gently caress about it.
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Aug 15, 2013 20:48
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I assume you're talking about Navy. Yeah you'll go to a-school right after boot camp and if your a-school isn't in Great Lakes you get to fly in your dress uniform! Towards the end of a-school you'll probably fill out a dream sheet of where you want to to. Don't count on anything. For me it was a 60 second rushed process. Walked into room with instructor and detailer on speakerphone. "Where do you want to go? East coast? West coast? Overseas?" "Ok here, here, here." "Well?"
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Aug 15, 2013 20:54
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Yeah, all that location preference and all that, as far as I can tell, don't count for loving dog poo poo. If you ain't got rank, or you ain't got a powerful uncle, you are getting what the loving military says you are getting.
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Aug 15, 2013 21:02
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Yeah but I know plenty of people that still lucked out with Italy, Spain, etc. Knew a couple people that called their Filipino uncle. You usually at least get to pick the coast. Usually.
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Aug 15, 2013 21:10
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Where do I want to request even of they don't care. Because I am a goony goonette and have non interest in anything that requires leaving a house 
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Aug 16, 2013 00:02
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What job? And lol female have fun with that! A-school will be a blast!
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Christoff posted:What job? And lol female have fun with that! A-school will be a blast! Haven't signed poo poo but want to be CTN.
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Christoff posted:What job? And lol female have fun with that! A-school will be a blast! ...of
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KittyEmpress posted:Haven't signed poo poo but want to be CTN. Your options are: Hawaii Texas Georgia Pensacola Virginia Maryland Pensacola has really nice beaches, but the town is kind of poo poo. It does have an awesome national park that you need to visit during A school at least. Hawaii is loving Hawaii. I've never been there, but if you can't find something to do I don't know what to tell you. Texas and Georgia are Army bases, they are like miniature versions of Maryland. Maryland is like a swamp, but there is stuff to do. It is a big command and you can give high fives to Bradly Manning all day. Virginia is pretty much poison from what I hear. If you want to be a cool laid back CT who is baffled by 5 AM Army formations then this probably isn't the place for you. This is where half the people you went to boot camp with ended up. It also has the worst beaches. Also, don't get too attached to the idea of just one rate. Unless your attitude is "gently caress it, if I don't get what I want then I walk," you need to be open to the idea that they could try to throw to something else at you. Because honestly, the Navy doesn't care what you want. Get a 99 on your ASVAB (take the online full length practice tests), having a good score is really your only bargaining chip.
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KittyEmpress posted:Where do I want to request even of they don't care. Because I am a goony goonette and have non interest in anything that requires leaving a house If you're not stuck on the idea of the navy as a life long career, and why would you be, try and pick a job that only requires you to sign a four year contract Iirc ctn requires six years, not four, as is the standard
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This thread suggested CTN when I asked for alternatives to hospital corpsmen. I don't really care how long I am in at this point since 24/25 would put me at the same age as my brother who is a worthless jobless freeloader, but with actual options. I actually asked for alternative rates to take like... last page, and only got two answers, so I am sorta at the point where I would like a job that is not rear end and don't really care if I am locked onto it. Also CTNs don't go on boats so bonus! Except I don't really mind boats. Still cool though. Un-naval navy.
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Corpsman is 5 year. The advancement is poo poo, you very well may hardly ever do medical stuff, and you don't have poo poo to show for it but experience for the civilian world. You can literally end up anywhere. Which can be a good or bad thing. Ship, with Marines, hospital, some small clinic on a small base... Other than that it can be a good gig and there are some decent c-schools/tech jobs that give you actual certs and stuff to work as a civilian (Lab, x-ray, respiratory therapist, etc).
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KittyEmpress posted:This thread suggested CTN when I asked for alternatives to hospital corpsmen. I don't really care how long I am in at this point since 24/25 would put me at the same age as my brother who is a worthless jobless freeloader, but with actual options. Aviation electricians mate, Aviation electronics technician, MAss communications specialist, Operarions specialist, personnel specialist, Religious programs specialist, Interior communications electrican, Are all decent jobs IMO, and most importantly they only require four year contracts
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Aug 16, 2013 05:23
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If you want a job that gives you realword options, pick a job that has real world private sector applications. Almost anything to do with aviation, GIS, HE operator, computer nerd poo poo, any sort of job that repairs ships. etc. You're a grown up, do some research.
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Be an AT, it's neat sometimes. Fix airplane computers, occasionally use your brain, act smug when you deploy. More than likely you'll be assigned to a ship (options include being stationed on one, deployed with a squadron, or augmenting the maintenance department). If you get in the P-3 community you'll be with a bunch of loving weirdos but you'll also get mad cash and stay on land. I wouldn't know, though, since I've only ever deployed on a ship. e: plenty of options once you get out, too. It'll set you in the right path for an EE degree if you legit love electronics, plus you can basically walk into a technician job with a major aerospace company.
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I should clarify that I have no interest in anything repair wise and have no 'Woah planes' reaction to making that seem better, and am poo poo at both electronics and auto shop on my asvab, so the chances of me working on any sort of planes is tiny even if I wanted to do it. KittyEmpress fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Aug 16, 2013 |
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Think you answered your own question then
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KittyEmpress posted:I should clarify that I have no interest in anything repair wise and hate no 'Woah planes' reaction to making that seem better, and am poo poo at both electronics and auto shop on my asvab, so the chances of me working on any sort of planes is tiny even if I wanted to do it. Not tryi g to dissuade you, but "repairing" poo poo the way you may think of it it is done by civillian contractors. You have to think, all jobs in the navy at entrance level are broken down so a high schooler, and a very dumb high schooler at that, can do them I knew nothing about electronics when I joined, other than don't stick your tongue in a socket, and I had four successful years as a great electrician They will teach you everything you need to know
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I just went to an Army recruiting office to talk about OCS, and had a realy confusing experience. The first person to talk to me gave me a very guarded "Weellll you can get OCS maayyybbee if the stars align properly" speech. Then he had to leave to go to a meeting or something and he left me with a second guy who told me that he could "basically guarantee" OCS for me and showed me a sample packet with all of the letters of recommendation and such. So, I guess my question for this thread would be, which recruiter was telling me the truth? The second one was higher ranking (sergeant first class I believe) and did seem generally more helpful. I'm a 22 year old dude with a BA in Poly Sci (3.3 GPA, I got excellent grades mostly, but a internship really hosed me over {I had to move out of my appartment early due to some family stuff and couldn't get the required hours} and gave me a pair of F's bringing down my GPA hugely.), with no medical problems. Fill Baptismal fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Aug 16, 2013 |
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KittyEmpress posted:I should clarify that I have no interest in anything repair wise and have no 'Woah planes' reaction to making that seem better, and am poo poo at both electronics and auto shop on my asvab, so the chances of me working on any sort of planes is tiny even if I wanted to do it. Then either find a different job that has real world private sector applicability or do something that doesn't. Nobody really cares what you do.
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themrguy posted:I just went to an Army recruiting office to talk about OCS, and had a realy confusing experience. The first person to talk to me gave me a very guarded "Weellll you can get OCS maayyybbee if the stars align properly" speech. Then he had to leave to go to a meeting or something and he left me with a second guy who told me that he could "basically guarantee" OCS for me and showed me a sample packet with all of the letters of recommendation and such. So, I guess my question for this thread would be, which recruiter was telling me the truth? The second one was higher ranking (sergeant first class I believe) and did seem generally more helpful. If you are set on Army OCS specifically, they have been using physical fitness as a weed-out factor, so you want to be able to max it out. As a 22 year old male with no medical issues you should not have a problem doing this if you dedicate some time to it and look in the PT thread. I would be surprised if anyone could guarantee you any OCS these days, but I see no reason why you shouldn't apply if it's what you want to do. Is there a reason you chose Army specifically or was it just the first one that occurred to you? There are also Air Force Rated, Air Force Non-Rated, Marine Air, Marine Ground, and many individual Navy officer jobs which you might consider, along with Coast Guard stuff that is the one thing I never researched.
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So my recruiter just called back and told me that YN was just a placeholder job and now I'm CTT officially. Uh what the gently caress? I asked if they can't change it back to YN, he said no and went on about clearance or something. So whats the schooling on that? Basic, right to A school, then right to C School? or is there time between?
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squarerandom posted:So my recruiter just called back and told me that YN was just a placeholder job and now I'm CTT officially. Uh what the gently caress? I asked if they can't change it back to YN, he said no and went on about clearance or something. So whats the schooling on that? Basic, right to A school, then right to C School? or is there time between? There's hold time in between But more importantly, if CTT is not the job you want do not loving ship You owe this motherfucker no obligation, especially of you're not getting the job you want
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Beria posted:There's hold time in between I'm going in for reserves so as far as hating my job for the next x amount of years, that's kinda moot since its 2 days, 1 week ttc etc and I hate my full time job pretty much (it's just stagnant). I'm just wondering what the schoolinga like for it, since I was set with feb then 7 weeks in MS for YN. So I'm just kinda confused as hell. I just hope I can make some engagements as now my shipdate is Sep18.
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Yeah, reserves totally don't deploy, nor do we send crypto equipment/personnel EVERYWHERE. Edit: Your recruiter is loving you by throwing you into a job that makes his numbers look better even if you don't want to do it.
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Another reminder that you don't owe him poo poo, and he won't care about you a month after you're gone. If you want a specific rate don't take something else. This is the last decision you get to make before joining. After that your rear end belongs to someone else.
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...wouldn't you want CTT over YN?
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SumYungGui posted:Another reminder that you don't owe him poo poo, and he won't care about you a month after you're gone. If you want a specific rate don't take something else. This is the last decision you get to make before joining. After that your rear end belongs to someone else. I still talk to my recruiter 
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My recruiter was pretty cool the whole process and when I went back for Recruiter's Assistance, she told me I wasn't needed and to enjoy my free leave. With that said, your mileage may vary.
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Christoff posted:...wouldn't you want CTT over YN? No. Work with a bunch of spergs on nerd poo poo or do paperwork with hot ladies?
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MiltonSlavemasta posted:If you are set on Army OCS specifically, they have been using physical fitness as a weed-out factor, so you want to be able to max it out. As a 22 year old male with no medical issues you should not have a problem doing this if you dedicate some time to it and look in the PT thread. I would be surprised if anyone could guarantee you any OCS these days, but I see no reason why you shouldn't apply if it's what you want to do. RE: The "guarantee" , the explanation that the sergeant gave to me was that the OCS board system was changed recently so I would only have to compete against people from my area, not against everyone in the whole region. I have no idea how true this is, and if someone could enlighten me I would really appreciate it.
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themrguy posted:I chose army specifically because of some family history, as well as because it being the largest branch, I figured my chances for a commission were the highest, but I'm not dead set on it . I'm filling out an SF86 for it right now but haven't committed to it yet or anything. The field I'm most interested in is intelligence, which I understand is extremely competitive at the moment, and I thought the army represented my best chance. The Navy will let you apply for intelligence (Intel) or cryptography (IDC) directly, and Intel is very competitive. The Army will present your class with jobs a couple months into OCS and grant preferences based on an order of merit created based on peer evaluations, academics (academic scores while at OCS), and PT scores and physical events. The number of intel slots your class gets is based on the needs of the army, and the number can very well be zero. The Marines will do something similar at The Basic School after OCS, except it will be longer before you choose and who gets to choose what is broken down with a quintile-based quality spread, making it a total crapshoot unless you would be in the top few percent of Marine officers, and even then there are no guarantees. This ultimately turned me away from applying to Army or Marine Corps OCS, though I'm not completely averse to potentially applying for a Marine Air contract in the future. If your primary goal is getting a commission and you would be happy with whatever job they give you, then the Army might be a good choice. If you are down for whatever the Army might give you, there probably aren't many reasons not to apply for a Marine Ground officer contract and see how that goes. I don't know anything about the changes in the board system as I stopped pursuing Army OCS last year.
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Beria posted:No. Work with a bunch of spergs on nerd poo poo or do paperwork with hot ladies? this is the best mentality. Your coworkers doubtless look forward to meeting you.
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Sasgrillo posted:So I noticed on my paperwork it asks if I have any heart conditions, including Mitral Valve Prolapse - which I was diagnosed with a long time ago. I don't take any medication for it and I have no limits on my physical activities, but the last time I ever had it checked out I was 18, I'm 24 now. Should I even mention it or what? The people who are recommending that you lie about your medical issues probably don't know poo poo about medicine. You'd have to be a loving idiot to follow their lovely advice. Most of the time, the general recommendation against full disclosure when going into the military will never be discovered. When it comes to medical issues though, don't listen to advice from anyone without relevant medical knowledge or experience. Axolotl fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Aug 17, 2013 |
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I'm currently in the Army National Guard. I have a year left on my contract. I was a little interested in switching to the Navy Reserves. Is this even possible or am I stuck where I'm at?
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You should be able to do navy reserves, with same rank. If i might ask why navy? I am a current (FMF) HM3, working as a DT right now. I'm planning on switching to CTN, since that seems more up my alley  Also, any of those looking to be a Corpsman, be aware E-6 can be difficult to pick up. E-4 and E-5 can also be more difficult to pick up than other rates. On the upside, you can be stationed with marines in a few different capacities (div,wing,mlg) and if you don't want that route, there are all the bases of course and ships, and there are some other "short" duty stations i just found out about that are not listed. These are not classified I believe, just short notice or temporary assignments that may pop up from time to time. bigred26 fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Aug 18, 2013 |
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squarerandom posted:I'm going in for reserves so as far as hating my job for the next x amount of years, that's kinda moot since its 2 days, 1 week ttc etc and I hate my full time job pretty much (it's just stagnant). I'm just wondering what the schoolinga like for it, since I was set with feb then 7 weeks in MS for YN. So I'm just kinda confused as hell. I just hope I can make some engagements as now my shipdate is Sep18. Uhh. CTT requires a TS clearance, so you should qualify for whatever YN slot exists. I'm an active duty CTT. You'll go to A School in Pensacola, FL then possibly a C school. I shipped out without a C school, but some people wind up on hold and go to a C school right after A school. For all the CT ratings, CTT is the least sperglord filled. I've also never seen a reserve CTT deployed on a ship I've been on. They do get some pretty sweet shore side "deployments" though.
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