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Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
The godawful Steam forums say otherwise. I've updated all drivers and everything. I don't see why it shouldn't work. An ATI HD6970 isn't exactly a rare graphics card. There's been suggestions to switch to windowed mode and/or to edit the config file to get around it, none work.

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Viridiant
Nov 7, 2009

Big PP Energy
I was getting the blank screen issue at first, and managed to solve it. It was one of two things for me, I'm not sure which.

I'd gotten a problem like that with a game before. Far Cry 3 would hang on startup, and eventually I found out that this was because I installed it on my external hard drive rather than my primary hard drive. Once I installed it on my primary hard drive, it worked.

I did the same thing with the Inauguration Station, and it worked fine after re installing it on my primary hard drive. Now, I don't know for sure that was the problem. It may simply have been that it simply had not installed correctly the first time and re installing fixed the issue.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Not sure if this already common knowledge but they said on the stream that the season pass is going to be 10 dollars.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

Starhawk64 posted:

I always thought the reason the Boss changed from being a sociopath in SR2 to being a heroic jerkass in SR3 is because he/she wanted to clean up the Saints' images and the fact that according to Female 1, the boss has been seeing a therapist.

I attended a game design panel where one of the designers for SR talked about this. He basically said that after SR2 they got a lot of feedback about how players felt a little bad about being a complete rear end in a top hat to one gang in particular that was just trying to be there and the Boss rained hell on them for no good reason. They realized that even though they were having the players be the bad guy, if they had the players actually play out as bad guys instead of anti-heroes, it was less fun for at least some of the players. That's why the Saints are comical rear end in a top hat anti-heroes instead of honestly bad people.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦
The only person I ever felt bad about the boss killing was the bartender during the Ultor raid.

But then I realized I ran over sixty people on my way there and got over it.

Rei_
May 16, 2004

The difference between confinement and rest is a shift in perspective

The boss is really more anti-authoritarian than anything, like a fun-loving Robin Hood with no sense of collateral damage.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

The Boss just knows that they're in a video game and therefore they don't have to take poo poo from anyone, and there are basically no consequences. (sorry, Carlos)

Mystic Stylez
Dec 19, 2009

:siren: You can now pre-load Saints Row IV on Steam! :siren:

Seems like a 7.3GB download.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Viridiant posted:

I did the same thing with the Inauguration Station, and it worked fine after re installing it on my primary hard drive.
Holy crap, it was this. Why the gently caress are some games still throwing a fit about the C drive?!

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Boss still kills people who are just in the wrong place in 3. The poor wrestlers whom were suppose to be at Murderbrawl all got killed just so the Boss can take their place instead. Granted only one of them talked as his car got processed and drove over people and then a gas station.

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


Well, was it a spinner inside your system or was it a USB thing?

VisAbsoluta posted:

:siren: You can now pre-load Saints Row IV on Steam! :siren:

Maybe you can? I hit it, it stays pause for a second, then says continue, and a few minutes later re-prompts me to start preloading.

EDIT: Oh right, restart Steam. Crisis averted.

EDIT 2: ^ ^ ^ Angel is a lovely influence and the Boss listening to him at all is a huge plot hole.

dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Aug 16, 2013

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Combat Pretzel posted:

Holy crap, it was this. Why the gently caress are some games still throwing a fit about the C drive?!
It's not the C drive (I have Inaug Station and 90% of my other games on a drive other than C). It's external drives. Why? Because poo poo gets turned off for external drives; there are a number of application features windows will not allow when run from an external.

PassTheRemote
Mar 15, 2007

Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill :laugh: wins.

Sir Unimaginative posted:

EDIT 2: ^ ^ ^ Angel is a lovely influence and the Boss listening to him at all is a huge plot hole.

Angel was to be honest the worst written character in SR3. I cannot steal my mask, I must earn it, by stealing it. Humiliating Kilbane is enough, you do not need to kill him. OMFG YOU NEED TO KILL HIM AT THE AIRPORT gently caress SHAUNDI!

I am glad he is not in Saint's Row IV.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Klyith posted:

It's not the C drive (I have Inaug Station and 90% of my other games on a drive other than C). It's external drives. Why? Because poo poo gets turned off for external drives; there are a number of application features windows will not allow when run from an external.
I don't have any external drives. Granted, the F drive where it was installed on is a thin-provisioned storage space in Windows 8, but for all the game knows, it's a regular disk with NTFS running all features.

Icedude
Mar 30, 2004


And now the waiting is even worse, knowing I have the game on my computer but am unable to play it.

PassTheRemote posted:

Angel was to be honest the worst written character in SR3. I cannot steal my mask, I must earn it, by stealing it. Humiliating Kilbane is enough, you do not need to kill him. OMFG YOU NEED TO KILL HIM AT THE AIRPORT gently caress SHAUNDI!

I am glad he is not in Saint's Row IV.

Agreed. The only thing he really had going for him was being voiced by Hulk Hogan, and even then he didn't get enough good lines to make that worth it. To much "gritty and serious" and not enough "I'm goddamn Hulk Hogan".

Brick Shipment
Jun 22, 2009



Tell me this is just Steam messing up. Australia is not going to have to wait an extra month for our +$25, neutered, barely playable online edition, right?

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


1) The date got kicked back a couple times for .au, so Valve isn't taking any chances.

2) Please tell me you have not paid anyone in Australian dollars for this game.

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

Sir Unimaginative posted:

1) The date got kicked back a couple times for .au, so Valve isn't taking any chances.

2) Please tell me you have not paid anyone in Australian dollars for this game.
I did. I paid $$$ at EB Games for the Dubstep edition. Then they said they never got an allocation for that so they downgraded me. And now retail release has been pushed back to 30th.
So gently caress that, I'm getting it Steam gifted and VPN-playing it as soon at it's out in the US.

Also a release date of the 20th would be loving brand suicide! GTA5 is out on the 17th!

Croccers fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Aug 17, 2013

Brick Shipment
Jun 22, 2009


Sir Unimaginative posted:

1) The date got kicked back a couple times for .au, so Valve isn't taking any chances.

2) Please tell me you have not paid anyone in Australian dollars for this game.

1) Thank god

2) And no. But getting release dates pushed back, especially in a region that is getting completely hosed over, isn't cool and nice anyway :(

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Icedude posted:

Agreed. The only thing he really had going for him was being voiced by Hulk Hogan, and even then he didn't get enough good lines to make that worth it. To much "gritty and serious" and not enough "I'm goddamn Hulk Hogan".
Either the Hulkster is a bad voice actor or they just did not give him enough voice direction. I'm not sure how you can get Hollywood Hulk Hogan and make a boring wrestler, but they managed it. OTOH Sasha Grey was pretty drat flat as well, she just had a character that was more acceptable with blah delivery.


My favorite trend reversal in SRIV is the lack of pornstar vocal "talent". I'm sure it helped with the marketing, but it didn't do the game a lot of favors. Voice actors: better at sounding sexy than actual sexy people.


Combat Pretzel posted:

I don't have any external drives. Granted, the F drive where it was installed on is a thin-provisioned storage space in Windows 8, but for all the game knows, it's a regular disk with NTFS running all features.
Exactly, the game doesn't know. That's why it craps out with a black screen when it tries to do something that the OS won't let it do, rather than give you a nice error message about being installed on a thin-provisioned external virtual ramdisk. I know it's not nice to victim-blame, but when PC gaming you should look at your setup and ask yourself, "Am I using something that only .001% of gamers would use? If so, that might be a problem."

MetalixK
Aug 12, 2013

PassTheRemote posted:

Angel was to be honest the worst written character in SR3. I cannot steal my mask, I must earn it, by stealing it. Humiliating Kilbane is enough, you do not need to kill him. OMFG YOU NEED TO KILL HIM AT THE AIRPORT gently caress SHAUNDI!

I am glad he is not in Saint's Row IV.

To be fair, that bit with Killbane was partially because of THQ putting the kibosh on a number of plot elements that would've made the last choice in SR3 a difficult one to choose. Killbane was supposed to have nuked Stillwater at some point, but it got axed.

pvax
Aug 6, 2001

Finally broke down and pre-ordered since I know that this will be good, good fun. Anways ... loaded up the inauguration station and it appears they got rid of the Russian Female Boss voice! That sucks! :(

PureRok
Mar 27, 2010

Good as new.

Icedude posted:

Agreed. The only thing he really had going for him was being voiced by Hulk Hogan, and even then he didn't get enough good lines to make that worth it. To much "gritty and serious" and not enough "I'm goddamn Hulk Hogan".

That was Hulk Hogan? Holy poo poo, I would never have guessed. I guess I'm so used to Hulk Hogan being Hulk Hogan that him being just some guy with a rough voice sounds completely different.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Klyith posted:

Exactly, the game doesn't know.
I said it already, for an application, there's no difference between a storage space and a regular disk, because it is exposed to the upper layers via a regular storage driver.

Either way, nice to know what the problem is, because now I can preorder.

Okimin
Dec 19, 2009

rebel rebel
Can someone make me a killer Miles O'Brien and post the download thing in the inauguration station, thanks in advance!!!!!!

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Klyith posted:

Do you guys realize you are arguing about the motivations of a character which is intentionally written to be vague, so that we can write our own feelings or interpretations onto the actions our character plays out? There is absolutely zero context for why the Boss lets Miller go free, why he deals with Zhen or Jenny in the way he does, or 90% of the other decisions of that nature.

People discussing the nature of a character in a work of fiction? Well I never!


Hotwire posted:

Dialogue Spoilers from that dev Diary:

New Shaundi: 'The only thing you ever did was get kidnapped by your stoner ex. Oh, and hosed half of stillwater. Go team.'
Boss: 'I thought you were just really friendly and hated pants.'
Old Shaundi: 'Someone gets it!'


I couldn't be happier. :allears:

Shaundi is the best. :-D


PassTheRemote posted:

Angel was to be honest the worst written character in SR3. I cannot steal my mask, I must earn it, by stealing it. Humiliating Kilbane is enough, you do not need to kill him. OMFG YOU NEED TO KILL HIM AT THE AIRPORT gently caress SHAUNDI!

I am glad he is not in Saint's Row IV.

As bad as he undeniably was, I disliked Zimos even more. Angel was bland and dumb and a total waste of voice talent, but Zimos was creepy and misogynistic. I didn't really care one way or the other what Angel did or wanted, but I really didn't want Zimos on my side.


Combat Pretzel posted:

I said it already, for an application, there's no difference between a storage space and a regular disk

If that were true then you wouldn't have had a problem.

Jygallax
Oct 17, 2011

Every human being deserves respect. Even if if they are a little different.

Tiggum posted:

As bad as he undeniably was, I disliked Zimos even more. Angel was bland and dumb and a total waste of voice talent, but Zimos was creepy and misogynistic. I didn't really care one way or the other what Angel did or wanted, but I really didn't want Zimos on my side.

Yeah, it's kinda weird how little he existed in the story too, like, Angel had his thing with Killbane, Kinzie helped you with the deckers, Oleg was there plenty, but from what I remember, Zimos was almost completely absent besides teaching you how to play snatch.

chiefnewo
May 21, 2007

Have any Aussies who got SR4 gifted to them on Steam been able to get the pre-load going? I've tried restarting Steam a few times now with no luck. I've even tried the steam://preload trick with no luck.

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

chiefnewo posted:

Have any Aussies who got SR4 gifted to them on Steam been able to get the pre-load going? I've tried restarting Steam a few times now with no luck. I've even tried the steam://preload trick with no luck.
You could always try jumping onto a VPN to start the preload then switch back once it's started, Steam should continue the download. I've done that with a few titles.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Klyith posted:

OTOH Sasha Grey was pretty drat flat as well, she just had a character that was more acceptable with blah delivery.

She was really just one more example of the writing team packing a bunch of new characters into their game and then having no idea what to do with them. The DeWynter sisters were completely useless characters, Viola was uninteresting and Sasha Grey was completely boring and bored in the role. The Waffle Guy Whose Name I Don't Remember did nothing, either. He was set up as "The Bad Guy" and then he gets killed off-screen in a gag cutaway.

I thought the game spent way too much time with Zimos too, so much so that it kind of detracted from the other characters.

Rirse
May 7, 2006

by R. Guyovich

Jygallax posted:

Yeah, it's kinda weird how little he existed in the story too, like, Angel had his thing with Killbane, Kinzie helped you with the deckers, Oleg was there plenty, but from what I remember, Zimos was almost completely absent besides teaching you how to play snatch.

And even then Kinzie would still have dialog during the later missions to provide you new tech or get you a boat for the final mission. Zimos just flat out vanishes from the plot after you get Viola. Wasn't for the fact he still has lines if you called him up as a homie, I would figured he actually got killed off at some point in the story and wasn't shown.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

King Vidiot posted:

She was really just one more example of the writing team packing a bunch of new characters into their game and then having no idea what to do with them.

You can sort of see that they were trying to emulate SR2 to some extent while leaving Shaundi, Pierce and Oleg free to interact in all of the storylines
Angel was the contact for Killbane, meant to make the fight against him a little more personal.
Kinzie was the contact for fighting the Deckers
And Zimos SHOULD have been the one for the Morningstar, but the Morningstar doesn't have enough of a presence after they kill Philippe (and then Viola kind of takes over Zimos' role)

Pierce, Shaundi, Kinzie and Oleg ended up being the ones most important to the overall story.

From what we've seen, SR4 seems to be handling its characters better.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Are you loving kidding me, an extra month long wait?

No, gently caress that, I am going to have to connect through a VPN and sort that poo poo out.

Now if someone has a guide they can point me to do this..

(at least I have the ROW version)

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Mokinokaro posted:

And Zimos SHOULD have been the one for the Morningstar, but the Morningstar doesn't have enough of a presence after they kill Philippe (and then Viola kind of takes over Zimos' role)
Early in development there were going to be four enemy gangs. The Luchadores and Deckers as they are, then the Morningstar were going to be all male and the fourth was an all-female faction. The sisters were Asian and Zimos was going to be the supporting character who delt with their faction (ala Pierce for Morningstar, Kinzie for Deckers, and Angel for Luchadores).

Then they had to make cuts, so they merged the two gangs, made the sisters into Loren's henchmen (and made them caucasian to avoid the "servant asian girls" thing), and I guess Zimos became a lot less vital to the story. And that's why there are two separate Morningstar districts.

Clitch
Feb 26, 2002

I lived through
Donald Trump's presidency
and all I got was
this lousy virus
Does Greenmangaming usually just send you the key at release, or do they get some lead time for pre-loading?

Jygallax
Oct 17, 2011

Every human being deserves respect. Even if if they are a little different.

Klyith posted:

Early in development there were going to be four enemy gangs. The Luchadores and Deckers as they are, then the Morningstar were going to be all male and the fourth was an all-female faction. The sisters were Asian and Zimos was going to be the supporting character who delt with their faction (ala Pierce for Morningstar, Kinzie for Deckers, and Angel for Luchadores).

Then they had to make cuts, so they merged the two gangs, made the sisters into Loren's henchmen (and made them caucasian to avoid the "servant asian girls" thing), and I guess Zimos became a lot less vital to the story. And that's why there are two separate Morningstar districts.

Is there an article or blog or something somewhere where you learned this stuff? I think this this sort of thing is super interesting and would love to read about all the different concepts they considered while designing the game.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
For what it's worth, I think at the very lest the celebrity castings in SR3 did quite well. The issues with Angel and Viola were more inherent in their characters than their performances. I knew Hulk Hogan was in the game, but I didn't realize he was Angel until he called me 'brother'.

Judging by the credits, that might've been because they had Troy Baker coach the non-professional voice actors, which is a good idea and a practice that should be done more often.

Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"

Clitch posted:

Does Greenmangaming usually just send you the key at release, or do they get some lead time for pre-loading?

I'm wondering this myself. Though I've been having issues checking out at Greenman today.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Clitch posted:

Does Greenmangaming usually just send you the key at release, or do they get some lead time for pre-loading?

I've gotten my well in advance every time I've purchased from them.

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Zigoot
Jan 30, 2008

Its too late your money is gay now

So there has just been a pretty major update to the steam page for Saints Row IV.

Not only is the metacritic score displayed and the Season Pass available, but the countdown appears to have been changed. It is showing three days and three hours for me right now, which would put the game's EST release at midnight rather than the previous 3:00am.

Is anyone else getting the same countdown? If so I am very excited because a midnight release makes it far more practical to start playing Monday night, and will make it feel like the game is coming out a full day earlier.

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