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Someone else deserves credit for the idea, but someone tried the whole "when you're older" thing on me and I threw it back with: Yes, you are older, but the depth and richness of my experiences are so much greater than yours that you might as well be younger than me. So maybe someday, once you've stopped living the same year of your life over and over again like a rerun, you'll have enough life experience to understand things from my perspective. You may even save yourself the time of unfriending them because they'll do it for you.
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 George Orwell: Against socialism.  Racism.  Godwin.  Timely references.  Celebrities.
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I like that the implication is that Oprah should go 'so, look at me, I look like I can't afford things'.
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Aug 18, 2013 00:31
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I like that the implication is that Oprah should go 'so, look at me, I look like I can't afford things'. She's already black, what more can she do?
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Is it me, or is that guy becoming even more unhinged? Seems he's using the Nazi tactic more and more frequently.
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Sir Rolo posted:
Wait he's really advocating this, to treat people differently by the color of their skin. I thought LL101 was "racism only exists when you point it out, libtard" insanity, not "yeah blacks are different" insanity.
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myron cope posted:"Just wait until you're older then you'll be a Republican" (once you pay taxes I guess?) So never.
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Eudaimonian posted:Is it me, or is that guy becoming even more unhinged? Seems he's using the Nazi tactic more and more frequently. He's my favorite part of the thread because ever since Romney lost he's gone full "AGH YOU IDIOTS WHY CAN'T YOU SEE I WARNED YOU THAT LIBERALS ARE LITERAL NAZIS WHO WILL KILL BABIES FOR SATAN AND RAPE YOUR CHILDREN AGH!"
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EightBit posted:There are enough people Said many mass murdering psychopaths.
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Sir Rolo posted:
Dear LL101: if you believe in the near future there will be wide-scale genocide of millions of heterosexuals, you know the perfect way to really stick it to the gay agenda? Beat them to the punch and lock yourself in a cell or kill yourself.  Or you know keep making terrible irrational arguments while demeaning arguably one of the most horrible atrocities in recorded history. Whatever helps you sleep at night, you fucks. 
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quote:I like the implication here that most of the people who support marriage equality are just being bullied into it by the Gay Muslim Atheist Commie Nazi Mafia.
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Sir Rolo posted:
There's something really unhinged about equating the systematic dehumanization of an entire racial group for the purposes of bringing about genocide with the systematic humanization of an entire sexual orientation for the purposes of bringing about equality. Like, I suppose there are one or two parallels in that you're trying to get people to treat everyone of a certain group differently regardless of individual circumstances, but if you can't look at the context and recognize that one of these instances was actively trying to make things worse for those people out of hatred and intolerance, and the second is actively trying to make things better for those people out of love and tolerance, there's something really broken in your brain. If you can't look at a situation like that, try and make that exact Godwinesque comparison and realize that of the groups involved here, the people most similar to the Nazis are the ones trying to deny others their rights and institutionalize intolerance, you're really hopeless.
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Sir Rolo posted:
It's completely incomprehensible to me how someone could think that people, of any ideological belief, somehow does not look upon 1984 as any sort of warning.
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seiferguy posted:Wait he's really advocating this, to treat people differently by the color of their skin. I thought LL101 was "racism only exists when you point it out, libtard" insanity, not "yeah blacks are different" insanity. No, he's claiming that conservatives treat everyone exactly the same regardless of the color of their race, whereas liberals insist on treating people differently based on race and are therefore the real racists. It's a rehash of the old "affirmative action is degrading for minorities" concern troll, combined with a complete lack of understanding that race has an impact on the actual material conditions of a person's life. vyelkin posted:There's something really unhinged about equating the systematic dehumanization of an entire racial group for the purposes of bringing about genocide with the systematic humanization of an entire sexual orientation for the purposes of bringing about equality. Like, I suppose there are one or two parallels in that you're trying to get people to treat everyone of a certain group differently regardless of individual circumstances, but if you can't look at the context and recognize that one of these instances was actively trying to make things worse for those people out of hatred and intolerance, and the second is actively trying to make things better for those people out of love and tolerance, there's something really broken in your brain. The issue is that people like the LL101 person are completely narcissistic (on a group political level, not necessarily as individuals in everyday life). For them gay marriage is not, and never has been, about gay people; it's about their own personal feelings. They don't see things as an attempt to humanize LGBTQ people, they see it only as an attempt to demonize conservatives. Mornacale fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Aug 18, 2013 |
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vyelkin posted:There's something really unhinged about equating the systematic dehumanization of an entire racial group for the purposes of bringing about genocide with the systematic humanization of an entire sexual orientation for the purposes of bringing about equality. Like, I suppose there are one or two parallels in that you're trying to get people to treat everyone of a certain group differently regardless of individual circumstances, but if you can't look at the context and recognize that one of these instances was actively trying to make things worse for those people out of hatred and intolerance, and the second is actively trying to make things better for those people out of love and tolerance, there's something really broken in your brain. Their thought process is something along the lines of "gay marriage = immoral, Holocaust = immoral, therefore gay marriage = Holocaust  "
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gradenko_2000 posted:It's completely incomprehensible to me how someone could think that people, of any ideological belief, somehow does not look upon 1984 as any sort of warning. The people in the book call themselves socialists. Liberals are socialists. Therefor liberals love big brother, and think 1984 is a guide to how to socialist by "socialist" George Orwell. Ha ha, those dumb liberals. Also, why the gently caress did he write so much about double think anyways? Not enough focus on the glorious soldiers of Oceania, if you ask me. This is the kind of person that thinks Animal Farm is pro-capitalist.
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Sir Rolo posted:
Am I supposed to recognize the bearded fellow? Or is my liberal elitist snobbery showing?
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Pfirti86 posted:Am I supposed to recognize the bearded fellow? Or is my liberal elitist snobbery showing? He's one of the Duck Dynasty characters/people.
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Pfirti86 posted:Am I supposed to recognize the bearded fellow? Or is my liberal elitist snobbery showing? He is apparently on the show Duck Dynasty about a family that makes duck calls, and is very rich. Of course there is a difference between being a reality TV and one of the richest and most recognizable women on Earth.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProlefeedWikipedia posted:And the Ministry had not only to supply the multifarious needs of the party, but also to repeat the whole operation at a lower level for the benefit of the proletariat. There was a whole chain of separate departments dealing with proletarian literature, music, drama, and entertainment generally. Here were produced rubbishy newspapers containing almost nothing except sport, crime and astrology, sensational five-cent novelettes, films oozing with sex, and sentimental songs which were composed entirely by mechanical means on a special kind of kaleidoscope known as a versificator. There was even a whole sub-section—Pornosec, it was called in Newspeak—engaged in producing the lowest kind of pornography, which was sent out in sealed packets and which no Party member, other than those who worked on it, was permitted to look at. This is basically describing right-wing (and to some degree nominally apolitical) media as it exists right now.
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Pfirti86 posted:Am I supposed to recognize the bearded fellow? Or is my liberal elitist snobbery showing? One of the stars of Lake Pontchartrain Shore.
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gradenko_2000 posted:It's completely incomprehensible to me how someone could think that people, of any ideological belief, somehow does not look upon 1984 as any sort of warning. And also George Orwell posted:Thereafter I knew where I stood. Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written directly or indirectly against totalitarianism and for Democratic Socialism as I understand it.
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And you know who else was a socialist?  So glad I don't have to deal with all this poo poo like you people do. I just get to hear about how the Jews are behind everything. 
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:He is apparently on the show Duck Dynasty about a family that makes duck calls, and is very rich. Of course there is a difference between being a reality TV and one of the richest and most recognizable women on Earth. Not to mention there's a difference between assuming someone can't afford something because he dresses and acts like a back woods hillbilly and assuming someone can't afford something because she's black e: the implication here seems to be that looking like a homeless person is the same as being black Intruder fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Aug 18, 2013 |
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vyelkin posted:There's something really unhinged about equating the systematic dehumanization of an entire racial group for the purposes of bringing about genocide with the systematic humanization of an entire sexual orientation for the purposes of bringing about equality. Like, I suppose there are one or two parallels The humanization of gays is the complete opposite in every way. Pushing against centuries of cultural hatred and stigma (including one that put them into the ovens alongside the Jews), and trying to create a complete cultural 180, it was the unccordinated, natural effect of occasionally depicting gays not as mincing, lisping stereotypes (or arguably worse, deranged maniacs), but as the people they are, by just showing them living their lives and loving each other. And it is towards the means of giving these people some basic human rights they have long deserved, and only has political meaning because one side are smallminded homophobic fuckwits. There really is no level on which that comparison LL101 made was not fantastically wrong.
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For those of you who didn't recognize that Duck Dynasty guy, I totally suggest watching the show. That family is hilarious and it's really enthralling. In one episode they need to make the world's largest duck call. They nail two pieces of log together shoddily and put them on a giant circular lathe. Almost as soon as they start the machine up and begin carving, the two pieces come apart at god knows how many rpm, nearly killing all three of them in the room. There are simply no words. EDIT: Just to be clear no one was hurt, luckily. I wouldn't be so amazed and amused if one of those chunks had hit somebody at a million miles an hour. Nathilus fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Aug 18, 2013 |
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Sir Rolo posted:
George Orwell on the subject of socialism: http://youtu.be/JPgIqDWBLDQ Also, I've had this forwarded to me by relatives and it's also shown up in a number of my Facebook comment threads. I don't particularly like Obama to begin with, I think he's nothing more than a neoliberal capitalist shill in a long line of neoliberal capitalist shills, but this is still pretty awful. I mean, a lot of these are really, really reaching, and some of them aren't even true. http://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/obama-252/
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Mister Bates posted:George Orwell on the subject of socialism: http://youtu.be/JPgIqDWBLDQ I'd be pretty loving embarrassed if I shared that list with anyone because they'd think I was either an idiot or an obsessive liar
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nyquil hangover posted:
Help them into a grave.
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Pfirti86 posted:Am I supposed to recognize the bearded fellow? Or is my liberal elitist snobbery showing? Duck Dynasty guy, the whole thing misses the point that if he WEREN'T rich enough to stay anywhere else that night, he'd be pretty well hosed, but hey, he's rich, so
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nyquil hangover posted:
Actually, it could depending on which breed of libertarianism they're subscribing to. I've seen a few libertarians who supported labor's right to organize, and read an essay proposing a universal basic income in order to break the chains of wage slavery. There are libertarians who support aid to poor people, they're just drowned out by the FYGM Randroids.
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I am almost suprised that so many people missed that a major part of the Zimmerman trial was that the guy went free and that the media legit avoided the story for a while, while in every single counter-story they try and frame the media reported instantly, attackers were arrested and charged. I mean, the first result for that picture on google is a CNN article, followed by 3 more outlets, one of which isn't even in the US! http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/us/georgia-baby-killed
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What additional justice for Antonio Santiago do they want? The two people who shot him were arrested immediately, and their trial is going on right now. The only thing that's off the table is the death penalty, since the accused were underage when the shooting took place.
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So shared a meme. Then I touched the poop.
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Sir Rolo posted:What additional justice for Antonio Santiago do they want? The two people who shot him were arrested immediately, and their trial is going on right now. All
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