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Engineer Lenk
Aug 28, 2003

Mnogo losho e!

TRISHY posted:

I'm in Australia.
I don't think I've heard of those products.

I bought extra large trays for her so she would have more room, trays with a cover, but nope, she likes to get right on the edge of the box and pee out the side.

Big plastic storage bin, with walls about knee-high.

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aghastly
Nov 1, 2010

i'm an instant star
just add water and stir
Does anyone have experience with heart murmurs? The vet diagnosed Toast with a grade 1 heart murmur while he was getting vaccinated today, which she said might be concerning later on if it gets worse and when it's time to neuter him.

Bonus tired Toast pic:

Rabbit Hill
Mar 11, 2009

God knows what lives in me in place of me.
Grimey Drawer
Yes, what do you know -- my big cat was diagnosed with a stage 3 heart murmur this morning (and asthma), and I watched the cardiologist give his exam and explain what we were looking at. Heart murmurs are caused by a thickening of the muscle walls of the heart, and when they are severe will cause fluid to build up around the heart and in the lungs. The cardiologist said a stage 3 is moderate and my cat has to be on beta-blockers for the rest of his life. From what I gathered from our conversation, stage 1 is minimally troublesome and you should just keep an eye on Toast and his breathing. His resting/sleeping breathing rate should never be above 30 breaths a minute (one in-out cycle counts as 1). If you see him consistently breathing at a higher rate than this, it's time to take him to the vet.

Someone with actual knowledge can tell you more. :)

JayJay
Jun 16, 2005

TEHHHHHH Jetplane!

aghastly posted:

Does anyone have experience with heart murmurs? The vet diagnosed Toast with a grade 1 heart murmur while he was getting vaccinated today, which she said might be concerning later on if it gets worse and when it's time to neuter him.

Bonus tired Toast pic:



We have kitties with grade 1 :h: murmurs at the shelter and they are virtually no different from any other cat. It's very minor. Just keep up with the yearly vet checkups and try to keep him happy and stress free. Neuters are so much easier than spays, they are under and snipped REALLY quickly. At grade 1 I think your vet should have no issues with a neuter. Just be sure the vet knows if its a different vet and takes care.

Look'it those bedroom eyes. :3:

Serella
Apr 24, 2008

Is that what you're posting?

TRISHY posted:

I'm in Australia.
I don't think I've heard of those products.

I bought extra large trays for her so she would have more room, trays with a cover, but nope, she likes to get right on the edge of the box and pee out the side.

These are large rubber or plastic bins, I'm sure some brand makes them in Oz. My cat is also one of those who gets elevator but while he pees. Nothing wrong with him, just a gross rear end in a top hat cat. I tried to transition him over to an automatic box but he kept pissing over the side so I gave up and gave him back his plastic bin. It's taller than him, so he can't possibly pee over the side of it.

LoreOfSerpents
Dec 29, 2001

No.

aghastly posted:

Does anyone have experience with heart murmurs? The vet diagnosed Toast with a grade 1 heart murmur while he was getting vaccinated today, which she said might be concerning later on if it gets worse and when it's time to neuter him.

Bonus tired Toast pic:


I have a little different experience with heart murmurs, so have some more info!

My cat was diagnosed with a severe heart murmur shortly after I adopted her (and after she had been spayed). When you pick her up, you can actually feel the weird heartbeat.

Our vet offered to set up an appointment with a specialist who travels around to vet clinics with cardiology equipment and does cardiology workups on patients. We did that, and the specialist graded it a 6 (the loudest heart murmur), caused by a hole in her heart that's about .5 centimeters in diameter (a pretty big hole for a cat). Prognosis was guarded. We were told that if we really wanted to fix the problem, she would likely need to undergo heart surgery, which was $25,000 and was only really done at a single veterinary university on the other side of the country.

We then learned that this specialist was actually trained in anesthesiology, not cardiology, so we wanted a second opinion. We repeated the same tests at a veterinary university with an actual cardiology department. They didn't believe the specialist's test results because loud heart murmurs are usually associated with small holes - blood in the heart is forced through a small hole at a very fast speed, causing a loud noise. Low-grade murmurs, on the other hand, can be associated with large holes, because blood is able to get through the hole at a slower pace and is therefore much quieter. The combination of a loud murmur with a large hole didn't add up.

It turned out the specialist was right. Our cat had a very loud heart murmur, caused by a large hole in her heart, which she was probably born with. But we got very lucky - the hole is located in a place where blood actually picks up more oxygen than it needs before going out into the body. Holes in the heart are much more dangerous when the hole allows oxygen-deprived blood to get delivered.

Fast forward about 6 years. Our cat is doing great so far. You'd never know by watching her that anything is wrong. She has gained about 3.5 pounds since we adopted her, going from 6 pounds to 9.5 pounds, and her heart murmur has been downgraded to a 4. She goes in to a cardiologist every 2-3 years so they can compare her test results, but she's been stable. She doesn't need any medication yet, and her heart has enlarged slightly to compensate for the defect.

We do have to be careful about anesthesia and any medication she's given for anything. It's important that any vet who handles your cat is aware of the murmur. I'd suggest getting a cardiologist to look at your cat and tell you what's behind the murmur.

For :20bux: considerations, the vet university charged the same amount of money as the specialist who wasn't officially trained in cardiology, and we got a lot more information from the vet university. I would recommend going that route if you can, because the amount of information they can give you is amazing.

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?
We have an older (~10 years old) male cat who often either yowls very early in the morning or comes and walks on us and chirrups. He has access to everything he needs at all times, so besides not paying attention to him when he does this (very difficult for my wife), what can we do to prevent him waking us up really early?

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

I need a bit of advice as I feel I'm handling this all wrong. When I was a little kid I had a siamese kitten and a persian. As they grew up they grew super attached to me. Last year I had to put my siamese down after 17 years and was a mess.

The other day was talking with my mother and we decided a year has passed, we could welcome another feline into our heart so we went and adopted Cooper from a shelter.


We bought him a string toy that he loves, litterbox, the usual and man was he a little heartwarmer. He would purr from a simple touch, lick at our hands, and be a lap cat. We were especially happy that despite being a year old he was already totally housebroken and we haven't had trouble with him at all.



It's now a week later and that's mostly up in smoke. He's suddenly acting totally different and I am not a clever person on how to handle it. If I pet him he bites my wrist (not hard, he kinda rubs his teeth on my arm then stops), he's suddenly acting kind of standoffish and only time he wants to have any peaceful interaction is when he's tired (he wanders up and tries to fall asleep on me)

I'm not entirely sure how to get him to stop nibbling on my wrist. It doesn't hurt but it's a bad habit and I doubt bonking him lightly on the head is that good of a idea. Any advice would be appreciated as I wanna train this little shadow as he does make me smile in his friendly moods.

Edit: If it helps
He's about a year old roughly. According to what we heard he was abandoned as a kitten and was rescued and put in a shelter for a few months. We're the first actual house he's been in.
We have a peek-a-poo who's curious but was raised around the other cats. He LOVES cats and will cuddle with cats all the time. He gets a smack every here and there but most he does is yelp and hide.
We have gotten him a horizontal scratching post but he mostly ignores it for my chair. He loving loves the chair and climbs onto it and wigs the gently caress out (rapid head bobbing and general strange behavior whenever he's in it)

ThisIsACoolGuy fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Aug 16, 2013

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

My cat rubs his teeth on my arm as well... because he loves me, if he is just rubbing his face along you it is because he likes you not to attack you, attacks would be actual biting.

four lean hounds
Feb 16, 2012
FYI: If your cat is obsessively licking himself, near or around his rump, pin him and check that poo poo out even if they don't want you to. It might be nothing or it might be a ruptured anal gland.

Guess what my cat turned out to have! My very first trip to an e-vet was last night, and now poor Cave is in a cone of shame while his rump heals. If anyone else has dealt with this, I could do with hearing about your experiences. Poor thing has an open wound on his rump (covered by antibiotic cream) and cannot comprehend why we were so cruel as to trap him in the bathroom last night.

Oh, and plastic cone-of-shames suck, fabric ones rule.

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

AtomikKrab posted:

My cat rubs his teeth on my arm as well... because he loves me, if he is just rubbing his face along you it is because he likes you not to attack you, attacks would be actual biting.

That's pretty strange. My other cat never did that so it's... really weird, he bends his ears back and starts to bite but the second his teeth touch me he pulls away and starts either A: Purring or B: He darts off (or very rarely he does it a second time in a row)

weavernaut
Sep 12, 2007

i'm so glad to have made such an interesting new friend
Wesley sometimes bites my hand while I'm petting him and lightly holds it in place with his teeth so he can lick it. Not all cat bites are bad? Cats are weird.

What's "kind of standoffish"? If he tolerates you near him, he's being friendly enough for some cats. He sounds a lot like Wesley, actually. v:shobon:v

ThisIsACoolGuy
Nov 2, 2010

Shaped like a friend

weavernaut posted:

Wesley sometimes bites my hand while I'm petting him and lightly holds it in place with his teeth so he can lick it. Not all cat bites are bad? Cats are weird.

What's "kind of standoffish"? If he tolerates you near him, he's being friendly enough for some cats. He sounds a lot like Wesley, actually. v:shobon:v

Honestly not sure if it's the right word, at night and whenever he naps he tries his hardest to get near me before sleeping (as I type he's actually curled up with his head on my foot).

When he's awake he lets me hold him however I want without taking out his claws and he'll even hug my leg if he wants to be picked up (it's as silly as it sounds).

He's super friendly but sometimes he lays down in my big pink computer chair that I pulled from a recycler a year or so ago and he just goes apeshit on everything that approaches the chair. Hell was taking a few pictures earlier and the camera was enough to make him swing at the air while biting furiously and whatnot. Then after he gets off the chair he acts on edge for some time and it's just... strange.



Seriously he clings to the arm of the chair and acts like a total psycho around it.

Typing this all out made me realize it's nowhere near as bad as I thought it was, I'm just kinda nervous. When I had my first two cats I was just a dumb little kid so wanting to make sure this guy gets a happy life.



Also sometimes when playing he starts panting like a dog and gets this hilarious expression on his face, that's uh. Normal right?

Blimpkin
Dec 28, 2003
Get him a scratch lounge! http://www.scratchlounge.com/

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



Engineer Lenk posted:

Try a top-entry litterbox (you can use a Rubbermaid bin).

This didn't work :(

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

~ shameful ~





Soiled Meat

Manslaughter posted:



This is Stella and she has a problem. She will get up to use the litterbox, get in, then get out and piss in front of it. How can I fix this? I've tried putting Cat Attract in front of the box to train her to piss in litter but after going without that today she went right back to pissing in front of it. I'm afraid she might be too old to retrain, the shelter aged her at 5 years.
Suggestions/questions:
  • She's spayed, right?
  • Have you tried a different litter type?
  • Have you tried using enzymatic cleaners to clean up in front of the box?
  • Have you tried using cat attract(because it seemed to work), but then slowly decreasing the amount used over time?
  • Have you tried using a different litterbox entirely?
  • Have you tried placing the litterbox so that it faces a wall? This might help keep your cat in the box as it'd be harder to stand in front of it to pee there.(this assumes a covered litterbox with an entry hole on one side; as with the other cat's pee problem, remove the door)
  • Maybe you could try putting the litterbox inside a larger litterbox(you'd probably have to make it yourself)

Thin Privilege
Jul 8, 2009
IM A STUPID MORON WITH AN UGLY FACE AND A BIG BUTT AND MY BUTT SMELLS AND I LIKE TO KISS MY OWN BUTT
Gravy Boat 2k

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Honestly not sure if it's the right word, at night and whenever he naps he tries his hardest to get near me before sleeping (as I type he's actually curled up with his head on my foot).

When he's awake he lets me hold him however I want without taking out his claws and he'll even hug my leg if he wants to be picked up (it's as silly as it sounds).

He's super friendly but sometimes he lays down in my big pink computer chair that I pulled from a recycler a year or so ago and he just goes apeshit on everything that approaches the chair. Hell was taking a few pictures earlier and the camera was enough to make him swing at the air while biting furiously and whatnot. Then after he gets off the chair he acts on edge for some time and it's just... strange.



Seriously he clings to the arm of the chair and acts like a total psycho around it.

Typing this all out made me realize it's nowhere near as bad as I thought it was, I'm just kinda nervous. When I had my first two cats I was just a dumb little kid so wanting to make sure this guy gets a happy life.



Also sometimes when playing he starts panting like a dog and gets this hilarious expression on his face, that's uh. Normal right?



This just sounds like a happy, young cat :3:

One of my cats pants like crazy, it's hilarious.

Enjoy! :3:



E: please post a video of your cat going insane and/or panting.

Harms
Dec 4, 2006
from outerspace
So, I mentioned on the last page that my cat is most likely pre-diabetic. I've also noticed that he has stopped burying his urine/feces, whereas he used to be extremely meticulous about it. I used to hear him in the litterbox (it's covered) for 1-2 minutes making sure everything was buried just so. And now...well even with the cover on, it stinks. Could this be the sign of something else (the odor itself isn't noticeably stronger than normal cat bodily waste odors, or anything), or is he probably just being lazy?

Crooked Booty posted:

I'm imagining the bloodwork was a pretty comprehensive panel because a lot of different diseases can cause the symptoms you were seeing. $200 for that and an exam seems pretty normal to me, and you also said something about a urinalysis? Vet costs vary enormously in different parts of the country, and even within an individual city. With very few exceptions, you get what you pay for.

I take it you have health insurance. (Also a veterinarian is, in fact, a real doctor.)

Yeah, sorry, didn't mean it like that. I know they go through a ton of school and are certainly highly qualified doctors - unlike, say, dentists. (just kidding dentists, I love you too!). I just meant to say people doctor.

And the urinalysis wasn't included. That was $35 I believe, which seemed perfectly reasonable.

And no, I don't have health insurance, but I know I've had blood drawn and tested, and don't remember it being super expensive.

Harms fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Aug 16, 2013

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
Don't mind me, just posting some pictures of my cat Charlie.







AKA "Captain Crunch"

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

~ shameful ~





Soiled Meat

AAAUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY FECKIN NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECCKKKKKKKKKKKK

Drink and Fight
Feb 2, 2003

ThisIsACoolGuy posted:

Honestly not sure if it's the right word, at night and whenever he naps he tries his hardest to get near me before sleeping (as I type he's actually curled up with his head on my foot).

When he's awake he lets me hold him however I want without taking out his claws and he'll even hug my leg if he wants to be picked up (it's as silly as it sounds).

He's super friendly but sometimes he lays down in my big pink computer chair that I pulled from a recycler a year or so ago and he just goes apeshit on everything that approaches the chair. Hell was taking a few pictures earlier and the camera was enough to make him swing at the air while biting furiously and whatnot. Then after he gets off the chair he acts on edge for some time and it's just... strange.



Seriously he clings to the arm of the chair and acts like a total psycho around it.

Typing this all out made me realize it's nowhere near as bad as I thought it was, I'm just kinda nervous. When I had my first two cats I was just a dumb little kid so wanting to make sure this guy gets a happy life.



Also sometimes when playing he starts panting like a dog and gets this hilarious expression on his face, that's uh. Normal right?



Diagnosis: is cat.


Seriously all that is perfectly normal. He's playing on the chair. Cats can get out of breath from running around.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride

aghastly posted:

Does anyone have experience with heart murmurs? The vet diagnosed Toast with a grade 1 heart murmur while he was getting vaccinated today, which she said might be concerning later on if it gets worse and when it's time to neuter him.

Bonus tired Toast pic:



Our fat baby Oona came with a very minor murmur that was confirmed by ultrasound at a vet imaging specialist that they said just to keep an eye on, I think maybe it was still there a year later but now she is 8 and they haven't heard it in years. They figure the hole closed as she grew up.

Disco Salmon
Jun 19, 2004
Our kitty Fat Newton has a grade 2 heart murmur. He has had it since he was born...the vet discovered it at his first vet visit. Other than that and his autoimmune tooth disorder thing, he is doing fantastic...he is 9 years old now.

Pretty much he is totally fine with about everything. Only major thing is an electrocardiogram yearly, and my vets have to take special precautions when putting him under for dentals etc.

Other than that you would never know he has a heart issue.

Fashionably Great
Jul 10, 2008
Well, after talking to my brother last night, I can definitely endorse Cat Attract litter. I was petsitting and his evil cat wouldn't use the box because she hates everyone but my brother, and after getting tired of cleaning up cat poo poo after a couple of days, I dumped her litter and replaced it with Cat Attract. Apparently he hasn't scooped the box since he came back (closing in on 3 weeks) :catstare::catstare::catstare: and little Satan is still happily using her disgusting rear end box. Apparently he only bothers to change the box when it smells bad. I've convinced him that the expensive fancy litter is worth it, because in his words, "I would pay double of whatever you paid for this stuff" since his cat is still using her box despite his disgusting laziness. And yes, I yelled at him to change that disgusting rear end box. :catstare:

HelloSailorSign
Jan 27, 2011

aghastly posted:

Does anyone have experience with heart murmurs? The vet diagnosed Toast with a grade 1 heart murmur while he was getting vaccinated today, which she said might be concerning later on if it gets worse and when it's time to neuter him.

Bonus tired Toast pic:



In cats there is no way to tell the difference between a benign heart murmur and one that is bad - cats can even have bad heart disease and no murmur. If a heart murmur is very loud that is more indicative of an actual problem whereas a very quiet murmur (and a one is freaking quiet) is more in line with a benign cause and can be as simple as "your cat was stressed out but has no actual heart problems".

If you'd like more on murmurs in cats I can certainly go on, but I would not be concerned with a 1.

Edit: no way beyond an echocardiogram (ultrasound of the heart) that is.

HelloSailorSign fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Aug 17, 2013

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Can cats get sinus issues? Like sinus headaches for example?

The climate in Puerto Rico has pretty horrific, high temps and humidity, on top of this we have this dust every few days, its literal dust in the air, you are breathing dirt.

The cat is eating fine, pooping fine, peeing fine, he still plays a lot outside and such, but sometimes he just kinda sits with his eyes closed like something's bothering him, not sleeping, like something's bothering him. He's not running a fever either.

I ask about sinuses because I notice him sneezing a lot, I plan to take him to the vet tomorrow but its midnight and I was curious, physically I see no symptoms which is what makes it so odd to me.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Alteisen posted:

The cat is eating fine, pooping fine, peeing fine, he still plays a lot outside and such, but sometimes he just kinda sits with his eyes closed like something's bothering him, not sleeping, like something's bothering him. He's not running a fever either.
I dunno bro, sometimes cats just sit and chill.

Harms
Dec 4, 2006
from outerspace
Is there anything wrong with 'scruffing' a cat? While one of my cats absolutely hates it, the other doesn't mind at all - in fact, he actually seems to enjoy it. I'm guessing it reminds him of kittenhood. But can it be harmful to them in any way? Worried that it could perhaps cause tearing, or something of that nature.

Grape Soda posted:

Well, after talking to my brother last night, I can definitely endorse Cat Attract litter. I was petsitting and his evil cat wouldn't use the box because she hates everyone but my brother, and after getting tired of cleaning up cat poo poo after a couple of days, I dumped her litter and replaced it with Cat Attract. Apparently he hasn't scooped the box since he came back (closing in on 3 weeks) :catstare::catstare::catstare: and little Satan is still happily using her disgusting rear end box. Apparently he only bothers to change the box when it smells bad. I've convinced him that the expensive fancy litter is worth it, because in his words, "I would pay double of whatever you paid for this stuff" since his cat is still using her box despite his disgusting laziness. And yes, I yelled at him to change that disgusting rear end box. :catstare:

Not sure what you define as expensive/fancy, but I've definitely learned to stay away from the super cheap "bargain" litters. When I tried them, I ended up using at least 2-3 times as much as I did with the more expensive brands. The cheap stuff just doesn't seem to clump properly, or really at all in many cases. Meaning you never get those finely formed piss balls in the box; instead they break apart the second you try to scoop them, and the small pieces mix with the rest of the litter, turning it all a darker color due to all the piss particles mixed in with the clean litter. Whereas with nicer litters, you can easily remove the whole clump without it breaking apart, saving the clean litter from contamination.

Shnooks
Mar 24, 2007

I'M BEING BORN D:

Harms posted:

Is there anything wrong with 'scruffing' a cat? While one of my cats absolutely hates it, the other doesn't mind at all - in fact, he actually seems to enjoy it. I'm guessing it reminds him of kittenhood. But can it be harmful to them in any way? Worried that it could perhaps cause tearing, or something of that nature.

I don't think there's anything wrong about it, per se, but why are you scruffing them regularly? Don't pick them up by their scruff, they're too big for that. As you can see, sometimes it really agitates cats and sometimes cats kind of completely freeze up. It's a natural response for cats to stop and do nothing when they're scruffed as they had to do it when their mothers picked them up.

Ie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S2VUp1PSIc

Don't try that at home, though.

Harms
Dec 4, 2006
from outerspace

Shnooks posted:

I don't think there's anything wrong about it, per se, but why are you scruffing them regularly? Don't pick them up by their scruff, they're too big for that. As you can see, sometimes it really agitates cats and sometimes cats kind of completely freeze up. It's a natural response for cats to stop and do nothing when they're scruffed as they had to do it when their mothers picked them up.

Ie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S2VUp1PSIc

Don't try that at home, though.

Sorry, probably wasn't too clear. The one that hates it, I never pick up like that. I only tried it once or twice before realizing he doesn't like it. The other one, I only do it occasionally to lift him up onto a counter or my lap, and I only do it when he's in a position that might make it more difficult to pick him up normally. And I don't carry him around like that or anything.

And yes, I've found the technique shown in the video works great at the vet, though I use my hand instead of a binder clip.

Drink and Fight
Feb 2, 2003

Harms posted:

Sorry, probably wasn't too clear. The one that hates it, I never pick up like that. I only tried it once or twice before realizing he doesn't like it. The other one, I only do it occasionally to lift him up onto a counter or my lap, and I only do it when he's in a position that might make it more difficult to pick him up normally. And I don't carry him around like that or anything.

And yes, I've found the technique shown in the video works great at the vet, though I use my hand instead of a binder clip.

I do it all the time when I have to drag a cat out from under the couch or whatever.

OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state
This is slightly off-topic, but I noticed that the OP didn't have a lot of specific information on adopting a nervous or an aggressive cat from the shelter, especially one that has never lived with human beings. We took a very nervous adult cat 5 months ago and despite in no way being an expert on the subject, I might have something of value to contribute. Should I contact the thread owner personally or could I just post it here?

Again, sorry for the derail.

aghastly
Nov 1, 2010

i'm an instant star
just add water and stir
Thanks for the input, everyone. Toast is going back for his second round of immunizations in a few weeks, so the vet is prepared to check on it again then. It makes me feel better, at least, to hear that murmurs are manageable with vigilance. And that there's a good chance I don't have anything to worry about.

I've been giving him more space to roam while I'm at work, and he somehow figured out how to knock over a huge lamp despite being only 3 pounds. :catstare: I thought I did a pretty good job kitten-proofing my apartment, but I was wrong.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Just remember when scruffing to support the body on an adult cat, generally just cup the back legs, otherwise you can cause pull from their weight and they will let you know.

Minarchist
Mar 5, 2009

by WE B Bourgeois
I'm not really sure where to post this or what to do so I'm just gonna post it here and hope for the best.

So a week ago my stepdad got a creepy phone message from a blocked number, some guy calling himself "Fred Rogers" which seems totally legit :jerkbag: left a message rambling on about backhoes and construction, and some family named the Leonards, but then he concluded the call with "I got your kitty." then hung up. My cat was living with my mom and stepdad since I can't have him at my current place, and he disappeared about 2 months ago. We never put up posters or published a phone number, and my cat would ninja his way out of any collar so he wouldn't have tags with info. He was chipped, though.

This call was some seriously creepy Zodiac killer sounding poo poo. Even before he mentioned the cat. Like you know that cold tingly feeling you get when poo poo Ain't Right? Yeah. I had written the cat off as a coyote lunch or got creamed by a car weeks ago, but now I'm not so sure. Turns out the neighbor's brother was asking my mom and stepdad about their cats for a while, what their names were, how old were they, etc. Also was trying to feed them, mom and stepdad told him to stop, the cats eat plenty fine at our place and to leave them alone. I haven't seen him personally, but according to my parents he's pretty creepy looking. "Goony" would be an understatement.

I don't have any evidence aside from the one phone call from a blocked number, and I doubt the cops would care enough to stop by and ask to look around. I'm genuinely scared though. If someone has my cat but I can't prove it...what do I do? Are they treating him okay? Are they hurting him? Is he even alive? :ohdear:

JayJay
Jun 16, 2005

TEHHHHHH Jetplane!

Help! I live in Florida and I guess its that time, cause I have ants all around my cats food and litter. I've never had them before. She's 6.5 months so I've been free-feeding her to get her weight up, but now im not sure what to do. Im replacing the litter daily, using vinegar/water to clean around, which really annoys my cat. Cleaned my whole kitchen up and put her food in a bowl in the middle of vinegar/water in a pan to keep off the ants. Does anyone know of any kind of cat-friendly ant killer? I doubt it exists. My cat is just going crazy right now meowing and running around in laps. :argh:

Picture of the cute little poo poo.

Paul E. Waug
Feb 18, 2007

JayJay posted:

Help! I live in Florida and I guess its that time, cause I have ants all around my cats food and litter. I've never had them before. She's 6.5 months so I've been free-feeding her to get her weight up, but now im not sure what to do. Im replacing the litter daily, using vinegar/water to clean around, which really annoys my cat. Cleaned my whole kitchen up and put her food in a bowl in the middle of vinegar/water in a pan to keep off the ants. Does anyone know of any kind of cat-friendly ant killer? I doubt it exists. My cat is just going crazy right now meowing and running around in laps. :argh:

Picture of the cute little poo poo.


You can use one or a few of these.

http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Rid-of-Ants-Naturally

Tamarillo
Aug 6, 2009

JayJay posted:

Help! I live in Florida and I guess its that time, cause I have ants all around my cats food and litter. I've never had them before. She's 6.5 months so I've been free-feeding her to get her weight up, but now im not sure what to do. Im replacing the litter daily, using vinegar/water to clean around, which really annoys my cat. Cleaned my whole kitchen up and put her food in a bowl in the middle of vinegar/water in a pan to keep off the ants. Does anyone know of any kind of cat-friendly ant killer? I doubt it exists. My cat is just going crazy right now meowing and running around in laps. :argh:

Picture of the cute little poo poo.


Our house is built on sandy soil and we had horrible ant issues, and the water-around-the-bowl trick never worked because Decoy throws his food out of his bowl before he eats it, so I ended up with a mucky-rear end sludge porridge in the water pan and one hungry cat who refused to touch the horror he created.

No amount of vinegar or anti-ant stuff would fix it, so eventually we hired professional exterminators to treat the outside of our house. The poison was squeezed up into our weatherboards so the cats couldn't get it if they were outside, and it completely eradicated the ants that were coming inside. Problem solved.

JayJay
Jun 16, 2005

TEHHHHHH Jetplane!

Tamarillo posted:

No amount of vinegar or anti-ant stuff would fix it, so eventually we hired professional exterminators to treat the outside of our house. The poison was squeezed up into our weatherboards so the cats couldn't get it if they were outside, and it completely eradicated the ants that were coming inside. Problem solved.

Thanks both of you!

I guess I should talk to my apartment office as well then, since they do free exterminations. Maybe there is something they can spray at the front door.

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JustJeff88
Jan 15, 2008

I AM
CONSISTENTLY
ANNOYING
...
JUST TERRIBLE


THIS BADGE OF SHAME IS WORTH 0.45 DOUBLE DRAGON ADVANCES

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of SA-Mart forever
Does anyone have any experience "taming" ferals? Back on Friday, 9 August I caught 2 feral kittens, somewhere between 8 and 12 weeks each, in a live trap. I kept them in a large cage for a while and the one with longer hair was ill when I got her, but I took her to the vet (where she panicked and made a scene) and she's fine now after some antibiotics.

A few days ago I let them loose in my dining/living area, and they are doing all of the usual kitten things like running around like lunatics and scratching things that I would rather they didn't scratch (I need to get a post), but they don't seem to be warming up to me very much. I would hand feed Valentina (she's the longhair) when I first caught her because she was so sick and lethargic, and she would purr like a champion and so on, but both of them still run from me if I approach. Prima, the shorthair, still hisses at me a bit at times and doesn't seem to like to even be touched, but will take treats from my hand and will let me pet her while she eats.

I must confess that I have never owned proper indoor cats before as I was very allergic as a child, and two semi-wild kittens is probably not the ideal situation for a first-timer like myself. I really want to raise friendly, affectionate, people-friendly cats that will rub against my legs, come to me for attention, and doze in my lap, but I can't help but feel that I am making a real mess of things. They go in to be fixed both this coming Friday, and I am honestly wondering if they will ever be happy being kept cats, and that maybe I should have them snipped, allow them to recover, and then release them back outside where they might be more comfortable and go adopt two kittens from the local shelter that are more used to people.

Any feedback would be appreciated - I am really rather torn at the moment.

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