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Opensourcepirate
Aug 1, 2004

Except Wednesdays
You should be injecting a lot more fuel after lowering it that much. I raised the idle speed slightly on my 98 when I was messing around in Vag Com. It changes in steps of maybe 30 or 40 RPM, and I found that bumping it up one step smoothed out the idle a lot. I'm sure it increases consumption a minute amount, but I'm not stuck in traffic all day so I don't worry about it.

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shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


So my GTI 2.0T's fuel pump has to be replaced with 20K on it. Is this normal or am I just lucky?

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

I'm a bad car owner.

about 3 years ago, MY WIFE's mk3 Jetta Wolfsburg was having problems stalling in the rain. We chalked it up to it dying and bought her a bugeye WRX wagon while I vowed week after week, month after month to get the car ready for sale. yeah... it's just been sitting in the garage taking up space.

Sometime along those three years I googled the rain stalling problem and a lot of people said plugs, distributor cap, and rotor, so I replaced all of those and then promptly resumed the laziness.

so yeah, 3 years later. The AT fluid has all leaked out and it doesn't shift anymore. Is this a case that I can fix with some AT leak stop and a refill of ATF or should I just say good riddance and try to sell the car as is?

related: anyone in the inland empire, CA interested in a 98 Jetta Wolf? Needs some work...

Brain Issues
Dec 16, 2004

lol

shyduck posted:

So my GTI 2.0T's fuel pump has to be replaced with 20K on it. Is this normal or am I just lucky?

What year and do you mean HPFP or electric in-tank fuel pump?

Thom ZombieForm
Oct 29, 2010

I will eat you alive
I will eat you alive
I will eat you alive
What are thoughts on taking car into dealership for maintenance? My Rabbit just hit 85k miles, and I'm thinking I should take it in for the 80k service, which seems extensive. The dealership estimated it would be around 900 bucks. Should I buck up or look elsewhere at independent shops?

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik

Progression Please posted:

What are thoughts on taking car into dealership for maintenance?

Many people in AI will tell you to take it to an independent because it'll be way cheaper - and they're right. However, it's always hard to find a good independent shop that truly knows what they're doing. Shop around for a European import shop (assuming you're in the US) instead of just the mom 'n pop place down the road.

I personally take mine to the dealership for anything I'm not comfortable handling myself because it's loving convenient (across the street from work), and i'm willing to pay for that convenience. Plus, I know for drat sure it will be done right the first time, and if it isn't I have avenues for kicking it up the ladder until it gets resolved. With a local place you just don't get that.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

devmd01 posted:

Many people in AI will tell you to take it to an independent because it'll be way cheaper - and they're right. However, it's always hard to find a good independent shop that truly knows what they're doing. Shop around for a European import shop (assuming you're in the US) instead of just the mom 'n pop place down the road.

I personally take mine to the dealership for anything I'm not comfortable handling myself because it's loving convenient (across the street from work), and i'm willing to pay for that convenience. Plus, I know for drat sure it will be done right the first time, and if it isn't I have avenues for kicking it up the ladder until it gets resolved. With a local place you just don't get that.

I think you aren't quite getting all of the reasons that "people on AI" say not to go to a dealership. It's not just above average pricing, but also below average levels of competence. This is on average, not the rule for every case.

I'm also not sure what you mean by "I have avenues for kicking it up the ladder until it gets resolved. With a local place you just don't get that." If you're talking about pressuing corporate about one of their franchisees, sure.....I suppose you can consider that to be useful. But once it's out of warranty the error would have to be particularly grievous for them to care.

Sure, some dealerships are good for some things, but their basic MO is to replace entier assemblies. The most recent example of this I can think of is a quote for over $450 for a complaint of a blower motor only running on high. They wanted to replace the assembly which, of course, would have resolved the issue. I resolved it in 5 minutes with s $23 blower motor resistor.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

Motronic posted:

Sure, some dealerships are good for some things, but their basic MO is to replace entier assemblies. The most recent example of this I can think of is a quote for over $450 for a complaint of a blower motor only running on high. They wanted to replace the assembly which, of course, would have resolved the issue. I resolved it in 5 minutes with s $23 blower motor resistor.

That's true for dealerships regardless of the make I think though. My mom has a Civic, and Honda wanted to replace the entire throttle body ($500 + labor) because the throttle position sensor ($50 sensor) which is attached to it stopped working.

Ninja edit: After re-reading your post, I think this is actually another example of what you meant.

Kashwashwa fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Aug 8, 2013

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Gf's '12 GTI picked up a scraping noise after a tire rotation. It seemed like it was coming from the rear, like a bent brake dust shield.
Taking it into the dealer for it, she was told that it was a "TSB that we can't show you because it's not in the VW US system yet." The supposed TSB was that the CV boots have a flaw where there's an audible rub. I don't buy it cuz 1) it sounds from the rear and 2) it seems to sound more grindy under braking, which doesn't seem plausible if it's the CV boots.

Anyone able to search for TSBs? If nothing comes up, I think she should try to get the dealer to keep looking or have the CV axles replaced, only to have the same sound.
Here's the service write up:
http://i.imgur.com/Al3bAOq.jpg

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

how the hell do you remove the transmission fluid fill cap from a mk3 jetta. All it's doing is spinning and I tried to pry it open with no luck.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

GrAviTy84 posted:

how the hell do you remove the transmission fluid fill cap from a mk3 jetta. All it's doing is spinning and I tried to pry it open with no luck.

I hope you're not trying to fill through the green plug there - that's to check timing. Fill through the speedo sensor hole.

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

It's a red plastic capped thing on the transmission next to the driver side front wheel. Or so the Internet seems to tell me.

98 jetta Wolfsburg automatic if it helps.

Brain Issues
Dec 16, 2004

lol

kimbo305 posted:

Gf's '12 GTI picked up a scraping noise after a tire rotation. It seemed like it was coming from the rear, like a bent brake dust shield.
Taking it into the dealer for it, she was told that it was a "TSB that we can't show you because it's not in the VW US system yet." The supposed TSB was that the CV boots have a flaw where there's an audible rub. I don't buy it cuz 1) it sounds from the rear and 2) it seems to sound more grindy under braking, which doesn't seem plausible if it's the CV boots.

Anyone able to search for TSBs? If nothing comes up, I think she should try to get the dealer to keep looking or have the CV axles replaced, only to have the same sound.
Here's the service write up:
http://i.imgur.com/Al3bAOq.jpg

Yeah I'm willing to bet they bent a shield and its contacting a rotor slightly if it started happening right after a tire rotation. Give me a VIN number and I can check for TSBs for you as I'm a VW/Audi tech, sounds like BS though.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
http://youtu.be/yc1z78N98ak

98 Mk. 3 Jetta with 2001 ALH TDI motor.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

kimbo305 posted:

Gf's '12 GTI picked up a scraping noise after a tire rotation. It seemed like it was coming from the rear, like a bent brake dust shield.
Taking it into the dealer for it, she was told that it was a "TSB that we can't show you because it's not in the VW US system yet." The supposed TSB was that the CV boots have a flaw where there's an audible rub. I don't buy it cuz 1) it sounds from the rear and 2) it seems to sound more grindy under braking, which doesn't seem plausible if it's the CV boots.

Anyone able to search for TSBs? If nothing comes up, I think she should try to get the dealer to keep looking or have the CV axles replaced, only to have the same sound.
Here's the service write up:
http://i.imgur.com/Al3bAOq.jpg

Double check that there's nothing between the shield and the brake rotor. I somehow managed to kick a rock up between mine a few months back and it scared the poo poo out of me. Roll around in reverse a bit and see if that clears it.

Grayly Squirrel
Apr 10, 2008

Hey Goons. I had some questions about a Jetta.

I've been looking through the local used car ads, and I found a listing for a 2002 Jetta GLX, with the 2.8L VR6 12v, manual transmission, and about 150,00 miles. Its being sold by a dealer, not a private owner. They're asking $2,995.

I'm going to go check it out. Is there anything particular/red flags I should be looking for? The price seems too low to me, and that makes me worry. And I know VW's have a somehwat mixed reputation when it comes to reliability.

Grayly Squirrel fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Aug 13, 2013

Alighieri
Dec 10, 2005


:dukedog:

The MFD on my 06 GLI has been acting up lately. The compass stopped displaying, just a blank area at the top left, not dead pixels or anything, just shows the time on the top right and nothing on the left. Also of note the time driven just keeps going up and up, right now shows 22hours driven when it typically resets to 0 after sitting off for an hour or two.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

veedubfreak posted:

Double check that there's nothing between the shield and the brake rotor. I somehow managed to kick a rock up between mine a few months back and it scared the poo poo out of me. Roll around in reverse a bit and see if that clears it.

I'll get a vin tomorrow. I wouldn't think the tech was so dull that he wouldn't have looked at the shields for a bend or some foreign matter wedged in there, but who knows.

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



kimbo305 posted:

I'll get a vin tomorrow. I wouldn't think the tech was so dull that he wouldn't have looked at the shields for a bend or some foreign matter wedged in there, but who knows.

Trust no bitches. I always assume that people will be as lazy as possible.

Prefect Six
Mar 27, 2009

A little off topic:

I didn't see this in the resource sticky or as another thread, but does anyone here use software or anything to track maintenance, gas, etc.? I was looking at one piece of software and was wondering if anyone had something they used and loved.

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

Grayly Squirrel posted:

Hey Goons. I had some questions about a Jetta.

I've been looking through the local used car ads, and I found a listing for a 2002 Jetta GLX, with the 2.8L VR6 12v, manual transmission, and about 150,00 miles. Its being sold by a dealer, not a private owner. They're asking $2,995.

I'm going to go check it out. Is there anything particular/red flags I should be looking for? The price seems too low to me, and that makes me worry. And I know VW's have a somehwat mixed reputation when it comes to reliability.

Listen out for ticking/rattles from the back of the cylinder head near the gearbox. VRs are known for timing chain rattles. Guides and tensioners fail and then the chains rattle. Usually this is as far as it goes, but if left to get really bad the chains can jump/skip. If the chains rattle it's a big job to put right. Gearbox comes out, front end comes off, inlet manifold off, sump off, cam cover off, rear timing covers off, then change the chains/guides/tensioners. Expect the whole job to run ~$1,500 if needed.

Other than that, they're pretty solid engines if well maintained and looked after.

Viggen
Sep 10, 2010

by XyloJW

Prefect Six posted:

A little off topic:

I didn't see this in the resource sticky or as another thread, but does anyone here use software or anything to track maintenance, gas, etc.? I was looking at one piece of software and was wondering if anyone had something they used and loved.

There are a million versions of this tyool for Android, and they're all awful. I just use a spreadsheet on Google Drive. :effort:

Brain Issues
Dec 16, 2004

lol
Typical day at work for an Audi tech here.






Another day, another set of pistons and rings for a 2.0T


Brain Issues fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Aug 21, 2013

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

Brain Issues posted:

Typical day at work for an Audi tech here.






Another day, another set of pistons and rings for a 2.0T

It looks so clean! :allears:

In a somewhat less clean place.. Pulling the 2.8 boat anchor from my friend's 4Motion ready to fit a 1.8T in its place:



It has my spare 1.8T in there at the moment for trial fitting and checking space so we can build a tubular manifold at some point.

Brain Issues
Dec 16, 2004

lol

Mooseykins posted:

It looks so clean! :allears:

In a somewhat less clean place.. Pulling the 2.8 boat anchor from my friend's 4Motion ready to fit a 1.8T in its place:



It has my spare 1.8T in there at the moment for trial fitting and checking space so we can build a tubular manifold at some point.

We have a brand new shop as of ~2 months ago.

It's really nice. 26 bays. In ground post-less lifts. Enormous toolboxes provided by the shop. I love it.

click for big

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

Brain Issues posted:

We have a brand new shop as of ~2 months ago.

It's really nice. 26 bays. In ground post-less lifts. Enormous toolboxes provided by the shop. I love it.

click for big


I used to dream of working somewhere like that. Now i just hate cars instead.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

Mooseykins posted:

I used to dream of working somewhere like that. Now i just hate cars know I could never deal with them long term to make a living instead.

There you go.

Prefect Six posted:

A little off topic:

I didn't see this in the resource sticky or as another thread, but does anyone here use software or anything to track maintenance, gas, etc.? I was looking at one piece of software and was wondering if anyone had something they used and loved.

Spreadsheet for maintenance + mods / Fuelly app for fuel.

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

BlackMK4 posted:

There you go.

Not far from the truth. Pay here (England) is so poo poo. £24k for master tech at dealers. 6 years and £35k in tools so far. Want to retrain as a welder instead.

Brain Issues
Dec 16, 2004

lol

Mooseykins posted:

Not far from the truth. Pay here (England) is so poo poo. £24k for master tech at dealers. 6 years and £35k in tools so far. Want to retrain as a welder instead.

24k GBP is 37675 USD which is more than I'm making now, but not by much. I only have about ~3000 USD or less into my tools though and have only been doing this for ~2 years.

Mooseykins
Aug 9, 2013

Triangle tits and an annoying sex voice?

Fuuuuck youuuuu sluuuut!

Brain Issues posted:

24k GBP is 37675 USD which is more than I'm making now, but not by much. I only have about ~3000 USD or less into my tools though and have only been doing this for ~2 years.

In terms of buying power, what you guys pay a dollar for, i pay a pound for. So it's like you making $24k. For 6 days a week, no overtime, no bonus, no comission, no benefits. (Obviously we have socialised heathcare paid for in taxes though.)

Here it takes 5-8 years to work up to master tech, and an investment in tools like mine. (Often more, for those who buy everything new.) Entry-level welding jobs pay about the same, it's crazy.

Alighieri
Dec 10, 2005


:dukedog:

Alighieri posted:

The MFD on my 06 GLI has been acting up lately. The compass stopped displaying, just a blank area at the top left, not dead pixels or anything, just shows the time on the top right and nothing on the left. Also of note the time driven just keeps going up and up, right now shows 22hours driven when it typically resets to 0 after sitting off for an hour or two.

Found the solution for anyone interested, disconnect battery for a few minutes, then reconnect. Fixed the issue and compass has been working just fine. Battery itself is fine so I am guessing this is just part of the legendarily reliable VW electronics.

obi_ant
Apr 8, 2005

I seem to forget every time, but any of you GTI owners out there please remember to check your oil.

I was driving down the freeway, made a *very* sharp turn and all of a sudden my oil pressure indicator went bonkers. It's happened a few time before, before I knew of the oil usage problem. I didn't think much of it since I've only placed 3,000 miles from my last oil change. I went home to add oil in and I added in two quarts for me to hit the "middle" on my dip stick. Almost a quart every 1,500 miles. Oy.

Remember to check your oil often and regularly.

Brain Issues
Dec 16, 2004

lol

obi_ant posted:

I seem to forget every time, but any of you GTI owners out there please remember to check your oil.

I was driving down the freeway, made a *very* sharp turn and all of a sudden my oil pressure indicator went bonkers. It's happened a few time before, before I knew of the oil usage problem. I didn't think much of it since I've only placed 3,000 miles from my last oil change. I went home to add oil in and I added in two quarts for me to hit the "middle" on my dip stick. Almost a quart every 1,500 miles. Oy.

Remember to check your oil often and regularly.

At 1 quart per 1500 miles (that is quite a lot) you are definitely within range to get pistons & rings assuming your GTI is within warranty. You should hit up your VW dealer and have this process started by having a Part 1 Oil Consumption test done, you then drive for ~600 miles and return for a part 2 oil consumption where they measure the oil burned over 600 miles, if its above a certain amount they will replace the pistons & rings with updated parts that will reduce your oil consumption dramatically.

We do like 2 of these a week at the shop I work at, in fact a few posts back I just posted pictures from the piston&ring job that I was doing on a 2.0T Audi A4.

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002

obi_ant posted:

I seem to forget every time, but any of you GTI owners out there please remember to check your oil.

I was driving down the freeway, made a *very* sharp turn and all of a sudden my oil pressure indicator went bonkers. It's happened a few time before, before I knew of the oil usage problem. I didn't think much of it since I've only placed 3,000 miles from my last oil change. I went home to add oil in and I added in two quarts for me to hit the "middle" on my dip stick. Almost a quart every 1,500 miles. Oy.

Remember to check your oil often and regularly.

What year/engine is yours?

obi_ant
Apr 8, 2005

Well that doesn't sound good at all. Unfortunately my warranty expired in 2012. How much would something like that cost out of pocket?

My car is a 2008 GTI it's a 2.0TFSI.

Brain Issues
Dec 16, 2004

lol

obi_ant posted:

Well that doesn't sound good at all. Unfortunately my warranty expired in 2012. How much would something like that cost out of pocket?

My car is a 2008 GTI it's a 2.0TFSI.

Out of pocket it would cost a crazy amount. It pays 18 hours as a warranty job, so they would probably charge at least 20 out of pocket. Audi has a slightly extended warranty for this problem though so I would contact your VW dealer and see what they have to say.

420Chris
Jan 1, 2005
love weed.
I think the spec is somewhere closer to 1qt/1000 miles, and the rings are a 50/50 shot of actually fixing the issue, oftentimes people get new rings and right off the bat the burning starts right back up. Its just a poo poo design. Consumption is also covered under powertrain warranty which goes for longer, usually 50k at least. 1qt per 1500 is considered okay per the consumption tsb and test plan, I dont think they will do anything for you.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Brain Issues posted:

Yeah I'm willing to bet they bent a shield and its contacting a rotor slightly if it started happening right after a tire rotation. Give me a VIN number and I can check for TSBs for you as I'm a VW/Audi tech, sounds like BS though.

I PMed you the VIN.

Brain Issues
Dec 16, 2004

lol

420Chris posted:

I think the spec is somewhere closer to 1qt/1000 miles, and the rings are a 50/50 shot of actually fixing the issue, oftentimes people get new rings and right off the bat the burning starts right back up. Its just a poo poo design. Consumption is also covered under powertrain warranty which goes for longer, usually 50k at least. 1qt per 1500 is considered okay per the consumption tsb and test plan, I dont think they will do anything for you.

At Audi, we are required to call corporate TAC (technical assistance center) before we get authorization to do rings. They tell us to do them every time consumption is over .30QT/1000 miles. Thats ridiculous if VW's tolerance is 1qt/1000 for the exact same motor.

kimbo305 posted:

I PMed you the VIN.

Sorry, I never check my PMS. Looking it up now for you.

edit: replied to your PM

Brain Issues fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Aug 26, 2013

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veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe
I'm a bad VW owner. I put 72k on my 1.8t and never once checked the oil between changes. I'm at 23k on my Golf TDI and still haven't checked the oil.

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