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goddamn, they all look the same, with minor height & ride-height variations.
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If Nissan and Cummins had a joint venture, would they call it the Cussin'? Or something far cruder?MrChips posted:No they are horrid, plus pretty much every Infiniti I've ever sat in has been festooned with details and flourishes that only a real estate agent could appreciate. Ironic, my mother is a real estate agent and she drove one of those Infiniti Pathfinder badgejobs for ages
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Aug 21, 2013 05:14
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Just call it a day and fold Infiniti back into Nissan. Retain the Skyline variants and the Fuga and drop everything else. Perhaps use more US/Euro-friendly model names.
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Aug 21, 2013 05:46
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Cream_Filling posted:This is so loving retarded. First they pick the model letter with the least popular models and lowest name recognition It's funny you say this because historically (since the brand's inception really) the Q45 was the only Infiniti anyone cared about or recognized. I would figure the choice of "Q" comes from the strength of the Q45 name. It's weird that the Q was replaced by the M in recent years. Hog Obituary fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Aug 21, 2013 |
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Aug 21, 2013 06:50
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I think I'm the only person I know who doesn't have a problem with the new naming scheme. It's at least self-admittedly abstracted, rather than fibbing on displacement like ze Germans.
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Aug 21, 2013 07:21
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Infiniti hired some guy from Audi who thought it was a good idea to rename all their vehicles. So they did. Which is extra baffling because the G actually has some value as a brand. The reason behind it is apparently to disguise the fact that they're going to be moving to smaller displacement engines. I've seen talk of a turbo 4 in the G37 replacement. So it will be a Q50 2.0T AWD or Q50 3.5 Hybrid AWD or something else equally dumb. Or maybe they won't list the engine and you'll have to guess? Also, to add to this insanity, they're selling the G37 alongside the Q50 for the next year. And they're chopping several thousand dollars off the price. So the G37 will be more attractive to the consumer?
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Aug 21, 2013 08:16
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AlmightyPants posted:
Still makes more sense than modern BMW - I guess the 1.6 and 2l line up but everything else is off
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dissss posted:Still makes more sense than modern BMW - I guess the 1.6 and 2l line up but everything else is off in the diesels, they don't even do that! The x16d can sometimes be 2.0l, but also can sometimes be 1.6l. Basically BMW has 3 engine sizes, 1.6, 2.0, and 3.0. If the badge is x2x, you can be pretty sure it's a 2 liter. Or a 3 liter. Depending on the model range. If it's x1x, it's probably a 1.6l, or maybe a 2.0l. Probably one of those. If it's 5xx it's anyone's guess because their site won't even give me engine specs for that model. gently caress BMW.
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Aug 21, 2013 12:20
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With BMW you can tell the body style and rough size by the first number (or letter and number) and everything after that is drivetrain/trim; their "even number=swoopier" scheme is silly but effective. The sports car Z4 gets a distinct name. Lexus, you know what LS/GS/IS/ES/GX etc mean and everything after that drivetrain/trim. Audi you know A is a car, Q is a ute, etc. The number indicates size of the sausage, the car might be sedan or wagon but if it's something weird like a TT or an R8 it's going to have a different name, like 'TT' or 'R8'. With the Infinitis you have sports cars and luxosedans in the same naming scheme with just number differences and that's unnecessarily confusing. Also they sold approximately 23 Q45s so no one associates 'Infinity Q' with anything
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Aug 21, 2013 12:31
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Infiniti rebadged everything as "Q whatever" as Q was the only letter that they had the trademark for all possible alpha numeric combinations. They're planning on introducing additional engine choices on each model so the current naming scheme of letter + engine displacement would no longer work. However, they ran into problems when letter and number combinations they wanted to use had already been trademarked; hence the re-brand.
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Aug 21, 2013 13:11
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bull3964 posted:I can't be the only one who finds current Infiniti styling horrid right? All their cars seem to be simultaneously melting while having suffered an allergic bee sting. Not a single attractive car in the bunch. Every time I see one of these whales I'm amazed anyone would buy one on purpose 
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Aug 21, 2013 15:53
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It looks like a tapir with gills.
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Aug 21, 2013 16:15
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bull3964 posted:It looks like a tapir with gills. In white they legitimately look like a beluga whale.
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Aug 21, 2013 16:19
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I still like the Infiniti SUV that looks like a bionic cheetah. Hell if I know what they're called now, probably starts with Q.
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Aug 21, 2013 16:22
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I see dozens of those huge Infiniti SUVs here in a week, there is a massive Infiniti dealership up the road. One time I drove through my parent's neighborhood nearby and counted 7 QX56s. They are weird and huge but I guess just getting an Escalade doesn't cut it anymore.
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Aug 21, 2013 22:26
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Anyone seen the Golf CC? http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2016-volkswagen-golf-cc-rendered-news Looks like a Honda Civic to me.
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Aug 21, 2013 22:38
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Snowdens Secret posted:With BMW you can tell the body style and rough size by the first number (or letter and number) and everything after that is drivetrain/trim; their "even number=swoopier" scheme is silly but effective. The sports car Z4 gets a distinct name. Lexus, you know what LS/GS/IS/ES/GX etc mean and everything after that drivetrain/trim. Audi you know A is a car, Q is a ute, etc. The number indicates size of the sausage, the car might be sedan or wagon but if it's something weird like a TT or an R8 it's going to have a different name, like 'TT' or 'R8'. I always wondered what IS was supposed to refer to at Lexus. I always imagined something like the following LS = Luxury Sedan GS = Grand touring Sedan ES = Executive Sedan / Entry level Sedan SC = Sport Coupe CT = Compact Touring with LX/GX etc deriving from that, but what the hell does the I stand for in IS? Is it just an attempt to resemble the trailing "i" on popular BMWs?
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Aug 21, 2013 22:45
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blk posted:I always wondered what IS was supposed to refer to at Lexus. I always imagined something like the following Maybe inline? The original IS came with inline 6 and 4 cylinder engines.
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Aug 21, 2013 22:59
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blk posted:I always wondered what IS was supposed to refer to at Lexus. I always imagined something like the following I always wondered how they came up with these, the ES, GS, and IS particularly. Interesting Sedan?
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Aug 21, 2013 23:01
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poo poo they prob just pulled them all out of focus groups and ran with it. Isn't the word/name "Lexus" completely made up?
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Aug 21, 2013 23:04
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Kraftwerk posted:Anyone seen the Golf CC? http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2016-volkswagen-golf-cc-rendered-news Jesus, it looks more Civic-esque than the Acura ILX. Which is a Civic.
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Aug 21, 2013 23:11
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Not a production Car, but the Camal tribute to the Maserati Granturismo is loving gorgeous   
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Xguard86 posted:poo poo they prob just pulled them all out of focus groups and ran with it. Isn't the word/name "Lexus" completely made up? This might be apocryphal but I believe the brand "Lexus" was thought up when Toyota's marketing department realized they could make an abbreviation of "Luxury Export US" which was the goal of the whole project.
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Cream_Filling posted:Maybe inline? The original IS came with inline 6 and 4 cylinder engines. That's what I always thought.
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Aug 22, 2013 00:10
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I'm getting a distinctly older mustang vibe from that, not a bad thing.
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Augmented Dickey posted:Jesus, it looks more Civic-esque than the Acura ILX. Which is a Civic.
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Goober Peas posted:I still like the Infiniti SUV that looks like a bionic cheetah. I liked the FX35/45 as well, unfortunately it's long discontinued. They were actually a lot of fun to drive for a small SUV (though in today's marketing-speak they'd be called a crossover). I don't think there's any sort of direct replacement or spiritual successor to them.
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Nitrox posted:Of course it does, because it's a picture of a Civic with VW badge. That's what "render" means. It's a bit more than that.
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The Midniter posted:I liked the FX35/45 as well, unfortunately it's long discontinued. They were actually a lot of fun to drive for a small SUV (though in today's marketing-speak they'd be called a crossover). I don't think there's any sort of direct replacement or spiritual successor to them. Well according to that image on the previous page it's going to be called the qx70?
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I'd like to get a QX80, get a personalized plate that reads "DON", drive it full tilt into a windmill and call it art.
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Hog Obituary posted:Well according to that image on the previous page it's going to be called the qx70? Hell if I know... Their new naming convention really is confusing. Lincoln's is just as bad. I can't remember which one is the big one and which one is the smaller one.
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DropShadow posted:It's a bit more than that. Yeah, the greenhouse is different, as is the placement of the wing mirrors, and the rear end is completely different, down to having the exhaust outlet on the opposite side. Note that the shape of the C-pillar changes from the first to the second render.
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Aug 22, 2013 20:00
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DropShadow posted:It's a bit more than that.
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Aug 22, 2013 20:53
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opengl128 posted:Every time I see one of these whales I'm amazed anyone would buy one on purpose Well at least you know what to buy if you need to tow a fully laden Soviet-era freight plane at low speeds for short distances  http://www.drivearabia.com/news/2013/08/22/nissan-patrol-2013-pulls-plane-to-set-new-record-sharjah-uae/
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Aug 23, 2013 06:02
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The Nissan front end treatment works rather better than the Infiniti one.
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dissss posted:Well at least you know what to buy if you need to tow a fully laden Soviet-era freight plane at low speeds for short distances Still doesn't hide the ugly.
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KozmoNaut posted:Still doesn't hide the ugly. Eh the Nissan one just looks like a generic large SUV - not like a LC200 or LR4 or a Toureg are good lookers
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Throatwarbler posted:New small BOF Ford SUV designed in Aus and built on the global Ranger frame. So probably losing the Territory for that. Fuuuuuuck. I honestly have no idea why Ford didnt design the current Territory for LHD conversion - they are a ridiculously good wagon and you have to be Lindsay Lohan type dumb not to sell em by the boatload in the USA.
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dissss posted:Eh the Nissan one just looks like a generic large SUV - not like a LC200 or LR4 or a Toureg are good lookers IMO the Tahoe is the best looking truck-based big SUV. It's classy and still looks like it can do work as well. 
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Cat Terrist posted:So probably losing the Territory for that.
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