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Red posted:I don't understand why Joseph Gordon Levitt wasn't an option? Because DKR set up an impossible role for JGL's character to fill and knows it, so actually following through with it would expose that. Edit: And re-casting him as Bruce Wayne would be extremely confusing to pretty much everyone. Jamesman fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Aug 23, 2013 |
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The wacky best-at-everything-ever-possible conception where "plans" basically substitute for "magic" as the explanation for why Batman can do ____. I think there's plenty of room for a "realistic" Batman in a Superman movie, though. In Man of Steel, Superman never actually fights crime - he opposes industrial disasters and alien invasions. Also, when he actually cuts loose, entire cities fall over. The Man of Steel Superman can't operate in that kind of hyper-precise bullet time mode in which comic book Superman wooshes off to save a life and returns so quickly that whoever he was talking to didn't notice his absence, or in which comic book Superman builds an entire supercomputer in the space of several minutes, or whatever. Someone capable of stealth and subtlety, and who's good at detective work and psychological analysis, and who's got tons of money and connections, would actually be invaluable in the fight against a canny and deeply enmeshed criminal rather than against a space monster or something.
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Aug 23, 2013 17:47
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Plus Batman is basically a ninja, and ninjas are always useful 
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Aug 23, 2013 17:52
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Ferrinus posted:I think there's plenty of room for a "realistic" Batman in a Superman movie, though. Why do we need another "realistic" Batman after having just finished a trilogy featuring a "realistic" Batman?
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Aug 23, 2013 17:56
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Yondu !
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Aug 23, 2013 17:56
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Batman is now a soft-sided Bostonian with a butt chin? That's going to be interesting on screen. But hey, no one thought Ledger could do the Joker and he pulled it off. Guess I'll take the wait and see approach.
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Aug 23, 2013 18:04
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Mark Ruffalo is (in my opinion) a bad actor that I've never liked in anything, and I thought he was an absolutely horrible choice for Bruce Banner - but he's been the best Banner to date. But maybe that's all Joss Whedon. I don't know if I remember Snyder pulling great performances out of people who usually suck.
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Aug 23, 2013 18:15
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DFu4ever posted:Why do we need another "realistic" Batman after having just finished a trilogy featuring a "realistic" Batman? We've got a realistic Superman. The does-anything-because-he's-just-that-good cartoon Batman wouldn't make sense or be necessary to pair with a Superman that's already manifestly got strengths and limitations that the archetypical Batman character can complement. It's important to note that "realistic" doesn't translate to "Nolan", here - Nolan's Batman didn't really do much detective work or draw on experience in crime fighting or build up a big support network.
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Aug 23, 2013 18:20
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lomzus posted:Yondu ! Hahaha this movie is gonna be awesome.
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Aug 23, 2013 18:22
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I am a little iffy on affleck because I heard he found putting on the daredevil costume humiliating and some say his performance shows it a bit, but maybe now that cape movies make billions (if you are marvel or nolan) I guess he might rethink that. I'm neither watching daredevil or the new batman when it comes out (I have no goodwill left for dc unless it's something amazing) so I don't really care enough to look further. I wonder if they'll adapt arkham asylum the comic or video game. Would be a chance to use a bunch of villains that could not support a whole movie and put out merchandise for all of them. And then they could make the villain of the next one whoever sold the most merchandise.
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Aug 23, 2013 18:40
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I'll go ahead and say that the following line will be said " I analyzed and replicated the atmosphere on your home planet" Batman proceeds to beat the poo poo out of Superman. That's pretty much how that fight is going to happen.
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Aug 23, 2013 18:55
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Hollis posted:I'll go ahead and say that the following line will be said " I analyzed and replicated the atmosphere on your home planet" Batman proceeds to beat the poo poo out of Superman. Or he'll just use all the kryptonite that's now laying around due to Zod's machine.
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Aug 23, 2013 19:06
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Hollis posted:I'll go ahead and say that the following line will be said " I analyzed and replicated the atmosphere on your home planet" Batman proceeds to beat the poo poo out of Superman. Here's a better one. "I just turned the Sun into a Red Supergiant." "How the gently caress? Do you realize what you've done?" "I'm Batman." *punch*
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Aug 23, 2013 19:11
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whatspeakyou posted:Batman is now a soft-sided Bostonian with a butt chin? That's going to be interesting on screen. But hey, no one thought Ledger could do the Joker and he pulled it off. Guess I'll take the wait and see approach.
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Aug 23, 2013 19:53
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I can't wait until they announce the Lobo movie... starring Robert Pattinson. http://www.newsarama.com/18756-dc-reveals-new-look-for-lobo-s-first-new-52-appearance-in-what-s-new.html
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Aug 23, 2013 20:04
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It's worth noting (I didn't see it mentioned here yet), that Warner Bros. was courting Affleck to direct their Justice League movie for months before he was cast as Batman yesterday. I think it's safe to say that's a lot closer to happening now than it was on Wednesday. The number one complaint I've heard about them potentially making that choice is that he's never done anything with special effects, but come on. Which takes more skill, filming an actual physical car chase better than just about anyone ever has, or pointing a camera at a green-screen? Tripwyre fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Aug 23, 2013 |
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Aug 23, 2013 20:18
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Yeah I don't see how that would be an issue, they can just have someone else worry about that part.
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Aug 23, 2013 20:48
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Tripwyre posted:It's worth noting (I didn't see it mentioned here yet), that Warner Bros. was courting Affleck to direct their Justice League movie for months before he was cast as Batman yesterday. I think it's safe to say that's a lot closer to happening now than it was on Wednesday. He'll have Snyder (and possibly Nolan?) to consult with on shooting VFX sequences now anyways.
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Aug 23, 2013 21:05
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I'm not sure why there's such an outrage at Affleck when we were given Henry Cavill for Superman. Cavill hadn't acted in all that much yet no one really cared that he was cast as Superman. I guess people feel much more protective of Batman? I really don't think Affleck is a bad actor so I don't think he'll do a terrible job. To me it was a weird choice but I guess we'll see.
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DoYouHasaRabbit posted:I'm not sure why there's such an outrage at Affleck when we were given Henry Cavill for Superman. Cavill hadn't acted in all that much yet no one really cared that he was cast as Superman. I guess people feel much more protective of Batman? I really don't think Affleck is a bad actor so I don't think he'll do a terrible job. To me it was a weird choice but I guess we'll see. I don't think it's "outrage" per se, and I think people gave Henry Cavill a chance because he hadn't acted all that much. Some people think Affleck is a bad actor, some people think he's just wrong for the part, but either away he's made enough movies that people have an established opinion. I don't give a poo poo about Batman, either, I have an interest because I'm a Zack Snyder fan (which is why, ultimately, I'll give the movie a shot when it comes out). Tripwyre posted:The number one complaint I've heard about them potentially making that choice is that he's never done anything with special effects, but come on. Which takes more skill, filming an actual physical car chase better than just about anyone ever has, or pointing a camera at a green-screen? "Better than just about anyone ever has" is madness, but his style could actually work pretty well for a big superhero team-up movie.
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Aug 23, 2013 21:34
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Timeless Appeal posted:Only idiots who hadn't seen Brokeback Mountain thought Ledger couldn't pull it off. The Joker wasn't some exception to his career, it was just another amazing role in a series of amazing roles. This... isn't true at all. A lot of his roles didn't sync up well in the public's mind with the ability to portray someone as insane or ruthless as The Joker. It wasn't really about his acting chops. Not in my book anyways. I personally just didn't think he'd fit, but I also had no idea at the time what Nolan's iteration of The Joker would be, so I guess there's that. For all we know, Affleck could be the perfect choice for Snyder's Batman, whatever that ends up being.
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Aug 23, 2013 21:38
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Sir Kodiak posted:"Better than just about anyone ever has" is madness, but his style could actually work pretty well for a big superhero team-up movie. It really isn't. I'd put the car chase in The Town in the top 1% of movie car chases, and don't feel like that's an opinion that really needs to be qualified in any way. It is absolutely outstanding.
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Aug 23, 2013 22:00
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I keep seeing people saying Affleck isn't muscular or intimidating enough for the role. These were released in 2004-2005. Not sure how far apart the actual filming was though. (Sorry for the lovely image)
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Aug 23, 2013 22:16
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Senor Candle posted:I keep seeing people saying Affleck isn't muscular or intimidating enough for the role. Bale actually had to lose weight to get to what he looks like on the right, too. After Machinist he apparently went totally overboard and was doing things like eating 2 or 3 pizzas a day because he missed food so much, and got fat. Then had to lose the fat and gain muscle because Nolan told him they were making Batman not Fatman.
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Aug 23, 2013 22:24
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Actually you need to bulk then cut. His getting bigger was definitely calculated, you can't just put on lean muscle without it taking a much longer time.
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Aug 23, 2013 22:33
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Senor Candle posted:I keep seeing people saying Affleck isn't muscular or intimidating enough for the role. Affleck in the town looks like someone capable of breaking your spine  The only problem is the intimidating part , he lacks a point of malice needed, instead looking more like someone who is reluctantly breaking your spine.I don't really care about that part tho , since he is going to be in mask all the time.
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Senor Candle posted:I keep seeing people saying Affleck isn't muscular or intimidating enough for the role. Bale is an extreme case and has a reputation for being an extreme method actor who would do something like that. Showing a before and after isn't a fair comparison. That being said, I don't think anyone is complaining about Affleck's physical fit for the role (except maybe Scarlet Witch/white washing guy).
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Aug 23, 2013 22:44
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Honestly, though, if they put whoever they cast in a black-and-grey suit that doesn't just look like Halo armor with bat ears, I'll be there opening night. If the suit's blue and grey I'll buy popcorn too.
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Aug 23, 2013 22:57
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Senor Candle posted:I keep seeing people saying Affleck isn't muscular or intimidating enough for the role. As well, everyone said the same thing when Tom Hardy was cast as Bane yet the dude bulked up for the role. Actors can bulk up in no time, I'm pretty sure there are people you can hire in Hollywood if you need to beef up for filming next year (not necessarily personal trainers). I'm one of the few people that is actually intrigued by Ben Affleck's casting. The guy has impressed me in recent years and has improved by leaps and bounds. Nobody on my Facebook feed seems to think so actually recalling roles from a literal decade ago that Affleck has long since grown past as an actor. One dude on my feed (a hipster gently caress who literally moved to Portland to become one) is actually making Aflac duck jokes in relation to the guy's last name. I'm glad I'm dissenting from those people. Justin Godscock fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Aug 23, 2013 |
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Aug 23, 2013 22:58
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I heard he's being worked over by the same guy who was tasked with making Cavill look Supermanish. Out of all the things I don't like about this decision, the physique is the most easily correctable. The fact that Ben doesn't look like he could scare a child worries me some, though. 
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Justin Godscock posted:As well, everyone said the same thing when Tom Hardy was cast as Bane yet the dude bulked up for the role. Tom Hardy was well known for playing Bronson, I'm fairly sure no one was wondering how he'd possibly bulk up for the role but rather were complaining he wouldn't look like his silly over sized design in the comics.
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whatspeakyou posted:I heard he's being worked over by the same guy who was tasked with making Cavill look Supermanish. Out of all the things I don't like about this decision, the physique is the most easily correctable. Given that this is the Superman from Man of Steel maybe he's going to be the scary one and Batman's the guy everyone likes.
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I'd kind of like the thought that he couldn't scare a child in this type of role. Perhaps this will be a more humane kind of Batman. A different relationship, perhaps someone Clark can take on as a mentor kind of figure to better utilize his skills in a more controlled fashion. EDIT: I'm down for Mastercheif's Spartan Armor with pointy ears Batman. Gatts fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Aug 23, 2013 |
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Them casting Affleck tells me they're going for a more 70's Adams/O'Neil type of Batman than the grim dark rage monster Bale played. And I'm 100% in favor of this.
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TheJoker138 posted:Them casting Affleck tells me they're going for a more 70's Adams/O'Neil type of Batman than the grim dark rage monster Bale played. And I'm 100% in favor of this. My brother put it best the other day when he said "Well, that means no more Bale Batman voice at the very least".
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PriorMarcus posted:Tom Hardy was well known for playing Bronson, I'm fairly sure no one was wondering how he'd possibly bulk up for the role but rather were complaining he wouldn't look like his silly over sized design in the comics. He also did Warrior right before Dark Knight Rises, a film where he had to get jacked up to play an MMA fighter. It wasn't like Christian Bale's crazy weight drop/gain. Fun article on Hollywood Steroid Use: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-steroid-use-a-list-609091
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TheJoker138 posted:Them casting Affleck tells me they're going for a more 70's Adams/O'Neil type of Batman than the grim dark rage monster Bale played. And I'm 100% in favor of this. Given that this is the Batman that both Snyder and Affleck grew up with, coupled with Snyder having a bit more say in the story this time, that wouldn't be a surprising inspiration point for the portrayal at all.
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Gatts posted:
You should be happy then, you've gotten 3 movies of this.
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Aug 24, 2013 00:04
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Affleck is also known for being a comic book fan, isn't he? (or a "nerd" as they are called) I seem to recall him being more of a Superman fan, though.
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He's not suppose to look like a murderer, Bruce Wayne is a fantastically charming billionaire spend thrift and thrill seeker. Ben Affleck can play the hell out of that. He's suppose to be charming. It's when he puts on the mask that he's suppose to be intimidating. Which I think he will be, he's even sort of done the "Batman" voice in Daredevil which honestly other than his performance over all how he spoke as Daredevil was fine.
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